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So you tornado alley girls might be able to answer a question for me then. Everytime we see it on TV here, we all ask the question: why do they always allow them to rebuild there. Maybe they don't, and it's just the way it's portrayed in the press. It's just when they advertise it as "tornado alley" we are always saying if they know they come there why are people allowed to build there and how on earth do they get insurance?Alicja there is no "due date" by which you are expected to be "ok" . And the gods know there aren't any expectations here. I have posted a picture of fat Abby, she always makes me smile.
Ah. well, that's because tornado alley is a huge geographic place. http://www.tornadochaser.net/tornadoa...
It cuts through some 16 states and is probably hundreds of kms wide. It's also where most of the water an other resources are. Chicago and Dallas are included. You might also note, that geographically it's basically any place between the Rocky Mountain range and the Appalachians. Roughly 1/3 of the US.
Canada too has a couple of tornado alley is basically were the entire population resides with the exception of British Columbia (west of the Rocky Mountains), Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland & Labrador (east of the Appalachians)
http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/...
Granted, except for in Alberta and Saskatchewan, we don't get the size of tornadoes they do in the US. AB and SK on the other hand get some devastatingly huge ones.
I often wonder why I continue to live in Minnesota when I know there will be days like today where the high is -32(f). So far the only real answer I have, I am too redheaded and fair skinned to move some place warmer.
Wow Darcy, that is amazing breadth of area. I didn't realise it was so big. Thanks for that. How to they get insured? Do most people just rebuild where they were? See here it seems like it's the same places all the time, when you see this " tornado alley". So obviously it's a much bigger area. Obviously in places where floods have occurred it is almost impossible to get insurance against flood damage. Is it the same there because someone lives in the " alley"?
I can't speak to the US regarding insurance, but in Canada there's no special insurance for tornadoes. If you're hit by a tornado, well, the insurance kicks in. They don't happen frequently enough here or, hit the same place enough for there to be any kind of limitations.If I recall correctly, when the Mississippi flooded in the late 1990s (1997?), those home owners were told they couldn't rebuild that close to the river, but whether that was enforced... I don't know.
When I was in Oklahoma City for Air Traffic control school in the late '70's (before Reagan fired all of us) I experienced my first and last tornado. When the sirens go off you turn on the TV to local weather and turn it up loud, open ALL your windows (something about air pressure dropping or rising rapidly, can't remember which) and sit in your bathtub and listen to aforementioned LOUD weatherman!! A disturbing,howling wind for a few seconds and it was over. Apartment building next door had all it's windows blown out that weren't opened. It never touched my apartment!
In Minnesota, if you live on a known flood plain, you have to pay for flood insurance. If you don't live on a flood plain, you don't have to pay for the extra insurance. I don't know how it works in other parts of the country. Tornado damage is automatically covered, at least it is in the policy we have.
My sister-in-law lives in Los Angeles and they have a beautiful home but can't afford earthquake insurance....around $1000 month!
Gretchen wrote: "In Minnesota, if you live on a known flood plain, you have to pay for flood insurance. If you don't live on a flood plain, you don't have to pay for the extra insurance. I don't know how it works i..."I think it works the same all over. In our area only folks who live on a flood plain get flood insurance. Luckily, I live on a hill.
Great info Darcy! Enjoyed reading it.Well the cyclone moved a few more hours north before now coming back south east. It is now a severe Cat 5 and has made landfall. It will still head our way next. According to the track map it will still be a Cat 2 when it hits our area.
Thank goodness our Insurance is all paid up! :D
Stay safe, Terri.
Thanks, mate. I will. My husband has been told by his boss to stay home for 'occupational health and safety reasons'. So while the bridges are all still open he is hounding me to put a grocery list together for a trip into town, because he doesn't want to get flooded in without cyclone snacks. :]
I expect he wants lots of Allens lollies on the list..
Buawahahahahahahahahaha.
It ain't a state emergency unless you are loaded up with Allens Snakes, Retro Mix and Jelly Beans.:D
Thanks Simona! :)
Terri wrote: "It ain't a state emergency unless you are loaded up with Allens Snakes, Retro Mix and Jelly Beans.:D"
But only the black jelly beans.
Hope you aren't hit too hard Terri. Will be thinking of you. Watching it on the news here. Looks very wet and windy.
Stay safe Terri and kin. (Sugar coma notwithstanding)I hope things dont get to bad for all the folk there.
At least you'll only get hit with a Cat 2. That's practically "hurricane party" weather, as I recall from my uni days. Stay safe and dry and load up on water and snackage (as you seem to be doing). :D
Thanks Meri, Darcy and Alicja.Weather not too bad right now. There has been a break in the weather. They keep changing the time the cyclone will reach us and they keep wavering between it being a Cat 2 or Cat 1 at this stage. Frustrating.
The areas that got hit when it was a Cat 5 and Cat 4 have some bad damage. Still waiting to see news on how bad the damage really is. I think the population of Yeppoon are still in the Evac Centre right now.
Hi Alicja,
yep, we're nearly through our Cyclone snacks and it is still about four hours before it gets here!
No Cyclone party here though. Which is a bummer. Due to the bad flooding. It will cause serious flooding in areas that are already flooding from the weather system that came down the coast in front of the cyclone.
We'll be sweeping out some downstairs rooms throughout the evening as those rooms are starting to flood from run off now (which unfortunately always happens with this kind of torrential rain) :)
Best wishes and thoughts Terri. I'm hoping for a remarkably smooth cyclone season for you guys and your animals.
Thanks Nate! I'll take those wishes any day! Worried about our cattle over on our river country, but I'm sure they will be just fine. I mean, cows are smart!!!?? (oh bum, I am totally kidding myself) :)
Sure Terri, you have a herd of the smartest cows anywhere! LolJudging by the news flooding seems to be the main problem everywhere. Hope it subsides quickly and doesn't leave too much damage in its wake.
Terri wrote: "No Cyclone party here though. Which is a bummer. We'll be sweeping out some downstairs rooms throughout the evening as those rooms are starting to flood from run off now (which unfortunately always happens with this kind of torrential rain) :)"I reckon you're missing an opportunity for an indoor pool party?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuapC...
Terri wrote: "Thanks Nate! I'll take those wishes any day! Worried about our cattle over on our river country, but I'm sure they will be just fine. I mean, cows are smart!!!?? (oh bum, I am totally kidding myse..."
I have a sudden desire to watch the scene in Twister where the cows are being tossed around in the tornado.
We are still having very cold weather and just enough ice and sleet to make travel hazardous. Right now the sun is shining, but ACCU Weather says in exactly 29 minutes we will have another ice event. This pattern of cold weather with ice and sleet followed by a day of sunshine has been going on for nearly two weeks. Once a weather pattern starts, it tends to continue for a month. We may have a tornado tomorrow followed by another ice storm. Who says the weather is a dull subject? Everybody, wherever you may be, stay safe. No swimming at the Health Plex for two weeks really hurts physically and emotionally. I tend to hang on the refrigerator door when my regular activities are interrupted.
All day I was in the warmest room in the house with blanket around my shoulders reading Gordon Doherty's latest -- quite a page turner!@Linda, I agree w/ you about weather pattern, except there are no tornadoes in this area. I've only been to church once this winter; I'm afraid of ice and falling.
Driving down to Tucson for a game there tomorrow and might have to bring a parka....temp supposed to drop into the 70's!
Bobby, darling, please be careful! Don't get chilled and catch pneumonia! Don't get too hot and suffer heat stroke! Lol BTW I liked your tornado story. We had a newborn baby the first time we were hit. There we were trying to cover the baby and each other with our bodies. When Mr. Of the house heard the freight train sound he promised he wouldn't let the tornado hurt us. I wondered how he planned to out do a tornado?! I was mightedly praying. The church 100 yards behind us was blown away. That was close. The second hit I was alone in my new car. When the sky rained hailed, I pulled into a stranger's garage. The owner got me into the house. We hugged like boxers until the train sound passed, then I went on my way. That was a nice lady to take in a stranger like that. We have matured to the point of losing our minds because when the tornado alarm goes off now,we and all the neighbors go outside to see the tornado.@Jane, You stay in when the weather is bad. I do. I've done 180's on black ice and hydroplaned on a wet spot on the road and took out three trees when I flew off the road. Totaled my Volvo, but that car saved my life. Not a scratch on me. My son was coming home from work when this last ice storm hit. There was no ice on the road,but when he hit the bridge he said he wasn't steering the car. When I was younger, no weather hindered my driving. Now, I stay in and am glad you do too!
As amazing as it would be to see something in nature so powerful, I'm not sure I could live in area like that. If I lived through it once, I'd probably take that as a sign, to bugger off and live somewhere else. :)
Linda wrote: "Bobby, darling, please be careful! Don't get chilled and catch pneumonia! Don't get too hot and suffer heat stroke! Lol BTW I liked your tornado story. We had a newborn baby the first time we..."Linda, my understanding is that the Volvo is arguably the safest car one could drive. No wonder, coming from Scandinavia--Sweden?
Linda wrote: "Bobby, darling, please be careful! Don't get chilled and catch pneumonia! Don't get too hot and suffer heat stroke! Lol BTW I liked your tornado story. We had a newborn baby the first time we..."You're a lucky lady, Linda. Car wrecks, tornadoes and a husband that was willing to take on the tornado on your behalf! Driving back home from Tucson in the morn. Game is over...finished for tonight.
The Volvo is the only safe car I have ever had. There are others I imagine. I like the turbo engine anf the way it drives--like my granddaddy's tractor. You definitely feel the road. If my husband thinks he is stronger than a tornado, who am I to dash his dreams? Yes, I have been lucky, but I am taking things easier as I age.
Hope you're okay, Terri. I saw the news and I realized the flooding is close to you.
Read the lost Sherlock Holmes story that was just discovered in a Scotland attic;http://www.openculture.com/2015/02/re...
Scholars are already debating whether or note Arthur Conan Doyle wrote it.
@Margaret; When the scholars are finish with their debates, it probably will come out as scam at the end. :(
Then they can find out Shakespeare was a fraud as well. Sure hope not, though. Means I wasted a HUGE amount of time during college days!
Lia wrote: "@Margaret; When the scholars are finish with their debates, it probably will come out as scam at the end. :("Personally, I think it is likely to be genuine. Arthur Conan Doyle was one of the first writers to write for charity. Now it's pretty much commonplace.
Shakespeare wasn't a fraud but he did have a co-author. I've written a book about it.
My wife and I drove donw to Phoenix area for a wedding over the weekend ( about a 10 hr drive ), beautiful scenery. Wonderful weather while we were there, but on Sunday, Winter decided to return to Southern Utah and Northern Nevada. I-15 really wasn't too bad, and the snow on the mountains was postively breath taking, esp in the Virgin River Gourge between St. George Ut and Mesquite NvEven though it hasn't snowed in Northern Utah, winter has returned here also, 38 for a high today :)
Hi all. I'm back. Nothing untoward happened to make me missing from Gr for the last few days. I was just too tired to visit GR. Fixing a lot of fences that got flooded, amoung many other clean up/fix up things.now getting pumped for our March group reads. :)
Good to hear. :)
happy wrote: "My wife and I drove donw to Phoenix area for a wedding over the weekend ( about a 10 hr drive ), beautiful scenery. Wonderful weather while we were there, but on Sunday, Winter decided to return to..."Should have dropped by for a visit!! Live in Scottsdale!
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