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message 1: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (last edited Jan 03, 2012 09:38AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Our first read a classic book is The Count of Monte Cristo.

It has been decided to allow 3 months to read this. So reading is from January 15th to April 15th. Feel free to discuss but try not to give spoilers away too early in the read. Have fun!


message 2: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (last edited Jan 03, 2012 10:07AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments .


Participants
Gaijinmama
Susan
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Cheryl
Pamela
Lisa Kay


message 3: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Reserved.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Reserved.


message 5: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Oh, thanks for setting this up, Pamela.


message 6: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (last edited Jan 03, 2012 12:02PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments You are welcome ☺ Thanks for helping!


message 7: by Melanie♥ (new)

Melanie♥ (meliaann) | 414 comments This is one of my all time favorites and I have re-read it many times over the years. I will enjoy following the discussion =)


message 8: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Read the first 2 chapters....


message 9: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments That's about where I am, Pamela.


message 10: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments


message 11: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Starting chapter 21 now.


message 12: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Whoa. I better catch up.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments I haven't listened or read anything more on this. Has anyone else?


message 14: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments well, I got to chapter 21 and have intentions of hitting it again after I finish my current book.


Cheryl (cawils_99) I haven't read any lately either but I plan on getting back into it soon. So far I am enjoying the story, it's just a bit wordy.


message 16: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Back to reading this one. I'm on chapter 43 at the moment. I will confess, though, I have skimmed a bit. Sometimes some of those long conversations just go on and on and on.


message 17: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Eep! You are a better woman than I am, Pamela. I still haven't gotten back to this one. Will try to listen to the audio today. Maybe. :)


message 18: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Found a website that I can listen to the story while I work around the house. Its making the story go a lot faster for me.


message 19: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (last edited Feb 24, 2012 05:52PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments I thought I'd attempt a few questions on the first part of the book.

To me there are 6 parts
Part I is the beginning Chapters 1 thru 7
Part II is when he is imprisoned Chapters 8 thru 20
Part III is inventing the Count Chapters 21 thru 35
Part IV is early preparations Chapters 36 thru 59
Part V is setting the stage Chapters 60 thru 82
Part VI is vengeance is mine Chapters 83 thru 119

Please let me know if this doesn't work for you. If you want if divided differently or whatever.

I will ask a few questions in a few regarding the first part of the story.


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Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Questions for The Count of Monte Cristo, chapters 1 thru 7 ish.

1. What did you think of Edmond Dante at the beginning of this novel? Had fate deemed differently what sort of life do you believe he would have lived?

2. Did you feel that the conspirators (Danglars and Fernand) were believable? Could something like that really happen?

3. What did you think of Mercedes and the relationship she had with Dante?

4. What about Caderousse? Is he as bad as Fernand and Danglers?

5. How do you like Alexander Dumas' style of writing? Do you think he gives what the reader needs?


Answer at your leisure....


message 21: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments 1. What did you think of Edmond Dante at the beginning of this novel? Had fate deemed differently what sort of life do you believe he would have lived? I thought Dante was a pleasant young fellow. Loyal and hardworking. Truthfully I don't think that Dante would have fulfilled his full potential had life gone the way he expected. He would have lived an ordinary life with Mercedes and whatever brood he had.

2. Did you feel that the conspirators (Danglars and Fernand) were believable? Could something like that really happen? I think that yes, something like that could have happened and probably did to some poor wrench. Jealousy and greed can make people do horrible things.

3. What did you think of Mercedes and the relationship she had with Dante? I thought her young and naive and truly in love with Dante. But, again, she was young. Would her love have lasted? Perhaps but I really don't know. She may have just become complacent and content as the years went by.

4. What about Caderousse? Is he as bad as Fernand and Danglers? He gave no warning to Dante so to me he was just as guilty.

5. How do you like Alexander Dumas' style of writing? Do you think he gives what the reader needs? I find Alexander Dumas' style to be tedious and complicated. I have thought to stop reading this several times because of my struggle. "Cheating" by referencing cliffnotes to help me understand the text helped a lot. Plus I found a site with audio of the book and I started listening to it instead and I found I could follow it easier. I am still not finished but I feel optimistic that I will get through it. I am now on chapter 69.


message 22: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Woo, questions! I love Discussion Questions. LOL!


message 23: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Anyone want to come up with a couple of questions for the 2nd part? If not I'll try to think of a few later today.


message 24: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments I need to answer these, and then continue to listen to the rest of the book.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments How many chapters are there, Pamela?


message 26: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments The 2nd part is from chapter 8 to 21. There are 117 chapters in the book altogether. The 2nd part is Dante's imprisonment.


message 27: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments 117 chapters! Whoa, Nellie!


message 28: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments yeah, I know.


message 29: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments I'm sorry. I'll try to get to this one later today. However, I think I might have to start over from the beginning. Or maybe skim the first 7 chapters again. My memory isn't what it used to be.


message 30: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments You can always check out cliffnotes or one of those other sites to get the run down.


message 31: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments LOL! Yeah, for the whole book, Pamela! Jeepers, how long are the Cliff Notes? LMAO!


message 32: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments lol, cliffnotes only reflect 73 chapters. I found on site with a weird name - pink monkey or something like that. It had it broke down by the chapters and it had all 117 of them.


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message 34: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Are his eyes pink from reading/studying so long? LOL!


message 35: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments lol. probably.


message 36: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Or maybe they are pink from partying. If he is using Cliff Note, maybe he isn't studying as hard as he ought!


message 37: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments hmmm, something to ponder.


message 38: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (last edited Mar 04, 2012 08:55AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Okay, I'll do a few questions for part 2

6. I guess it wasn't a surprise when Dante went to prison anyway but were you surprised in the manner it happened?

7. Dante was there for a while before he ever met Abbe Faria. What did you think of the relationship they developed?

8. Mercedes did wait a year but do you think she should have waited a little longer?



message 39: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Ack! You're driving me crazy, Pamela. You know who I love to answer "buddy read" questions. **deep sigh** I need to catch up!


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Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments 6. I guess it wasn't a surprise when Dante went to prison anyway but were you surprised in the manner it happened? Actually I was surprised. I wasn't familiar enough with the story and I had not seen any movies about this yet so I was surprised about Villefort.

7. Dante was there for a while before he ever met Abbe Faria. What did you think of the relationship they developed? I thought it was interesting that they formed an almost father/son sort of relationship. I do wonder if they would have had a similar one had they not been imprisoned. I think they genuinely became very attached and fond of each other.

8. Mercedes did wait a year but do you think she should have waited a little longer? One of the reasons I didn't feel Mercedes' love was really true. I think had she genuinely loved Dante she would have waited a little longer.


message 41: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Feel free to add questions if anyone wants to.


message 42: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Lisa Kay’s Answers to Pamela’s Questions for The Count of Monte Cristo, chapters 1 thru 7 ish.

1. What did you think of Edmond Dante at the beginning of this novel? Had fate deemed differently what sort of life do you believe he would have lived?
I think he was living an almost charmed life and he had a great future ahead of him. A predictable future. They stole it from him.

2. Did you feel that the conspirators (Danglars and Fernand) were believable? Could something like that really happen?
Oh, yes! They were believable to me. Very diabolical. I think it happened then and it happens now-a-days.

3. What did you think of Mercedes and the relationship she had with Dante?
She was pretty naïve. And young!

4. What about Caderousse? Is he as bad as Fernand and Danglers?
Oh, yes. He is just at the beginning of his evil ways. This may be his turn down the wrong road, but I think he might have been headed to the evil person he becomes even with entering Dante’s life.

5. How do you like Alexander Dumas' style of writing? Do you think he gives what the reader needs?
It is a little wordy. I think he needs a good editor. Of course, back then, books weren’t so plentiful and I think that is why they were so much wordier. People read them over and over again.


message 43: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments @ Pamela

#1 – I’m kind of surprised to “hear” you say this, Pamela. However, I have to agree that Dante wouldn’t have achieved what he did w/o his driving need for revenge. Still, I think he would have had love in his life, which they denied him.

#2 – I concur! It can!

#3 – I agree with you about Mercedes becoming complacent in her later years had she married Dante.

#4 – I agree.

#5 – Yes, the audiobook was better!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Lisa Kay’s Answers to Pamela’s Questions for The Count of Monte Cristo, Part 2.

6. I guess it wasn't a surprise when Dante went to prison anyway but were you surprised in the manner it happened?
Nah. I knew the story. Still, it is extreme.

7. Dante was there for a while before he ever met Abbe Faria. What did you think of the relationship they developed?
I agree. It was a very deep and loving relationship. I can see the father/son and protégée/mentor relationship. (view spoiler)

8. Mercedes did wait a year but do you think she should have waited a little longer?
Yes, in those days it was a three-year mourning period. She jumped the gun. Makes me think her love wasn’t as strong as it should have been.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments @ Pamela

#8 - Mind Meld! ☺


message 46: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments lol


message 47: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Anyone got any questions? Do you want me to post more questions or did anyone else finish it? Let me know... Thanks.


message 48: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Ugh. This one is killing me, Pamela. Sorry, as I'm the one who suggested it.


message 49: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14527 comments Do I need to get my whip out? lol

No problem, then. Do I need to archive this? Or just wait til the end of the month?


message 50: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Let me see if I can get back into it. I hate to give up on a book. **sigh**


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