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message 51: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Ever tried just mixing a jumble of action words like 'sliced', 'hacked', etc and add a bunch of random description words. Like 'spilled' and whatnot? It may help. Just make random sentences out of them, add all the sentences together, then mixed them all up.


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T. Johnston That might work. At least it is something to think about.


message 53: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Tiawni wrote: "That might work. At least it is something to think about."

Really? I was just making that up as I went. o.O


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T. H. Fay | 47 comments Hello fellow writers! I'm new to this group and GR and I'm intent upon getting my name out there and meeting new people. I started writing a book in middle school and I have dedicated the past six years to perfecting a story that will never be forgotten, or so that's my hope. Every detail of my story is important to me, so I suspect it'll still take me a few years until I'm content with what I've written.


message 55: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Thabata wrote: "Hello fellow writers! I'm new to this group and GR and I'm intent upon getting my name out there and meeting new people. I started writing a book in middle school and I have dedicated the past six ..."

Hey, Thabata! Welcome to the group and GR! Hope you've had happy welcomes from every other group you have/will join! :)
Wow, six years? That's got to mean it's a thick book by now. C; and I hope it lives - books are alive- up to your expectations. ^-^


message 56: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Thabata wrote: "Hello fellow writers! I'm new to this group and GR and I'm intent upon getting my name out there and meeting new people. I started writing a book in middle school and I have dedicated the past six ..."

Six years you say? To you I tip my hat, Ma'am. Welcome to the group; looking forward to your comments and the like.

What is your book about, if I may ask?


message 57: by T. H. Fay (new)

T. H. Fay | 47 comments Thanks for the warm welcome guys! Hmm thats an interesting question Julius, well let me condense it to as simple as I can get it.
My book revolves solely on my characters, they're everything in my novel. The setting takes place in a world which is the very antithesis of Earth, it's name is Threa. The inhabitants of this world have what we call super powers but what I have named as Talents. The Talents can range from anything as simple as cooking to anything as complicated as minipulating dreams. I've tried to keep my book as realistic as possible, part of the reason why its taken me so long. My characters are extremely complicated because in truth, human beings are extremely complicated and I want to do them the justice they deserve.
Thats all I'll say for now, really I could talk on the subject for hours. Hope that helped quench your curiousity a bit.
Thanks again for the warm welcome guys!


message 58: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Sounds interesting. And you're welcome for the welcome. My fellow mod and I quite enjoy all newcomers.


message 59: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Thabata wrote: "Thanks for the warm welcome guys! Hmm thats an interesting question Julius, well let me condense it to as simple as I can get it.
My book revolves solely on my characters, they're everything in..."


That sounds like an interesting book- all the little intricities- hope i didn't mix up words there- -

And you are also welcome for the welcome. :)
@Julius: that we do, that we do.


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Kelson Hargis | 17 comments I have two great ideas for books but I have found that I hit a wall at about 40-60 thousand words. I used to write screenplays and just loved the style and length. I just now got back into prose about 3 months ago and have already pumped out about 20-30 thousand words in the form of about 5 short stories. I have just started my first Novella and all is going well. I think that I can do 20-30 thousands words or so without getting blocked. I self published one short story and am shopping 3 others to literary journals and other web sites. My self published short is on Booktango and is called Language Arts. http://bookstore.booktango.com/Produc...
I would really like to read yours Kelly. Where can we find it?


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message 62: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Kelson wrote: "I have two great ideas for books but I have found that I hit a wall at about 40-60 thousand words. I used to write screenplays and just loved the style and length. I just now got back into prose ab..."

Wow, I hate writer's block! :D


Iesha (In east shade house at...) (emberblue) | 58 comments I'm in the process of writing two-one is fantasy and the other is a slit in between paranormal and reality, but I keep starting and not starting again for long periods of time.


message 64: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Darn. That sucks... :\


Think you will finish one eventually? :D


Iesha (In east shade house at...) (emberblue) | 58 comments I'm hoping so-just having small issues.:D


message 66: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Iesha wrote: "I'm hoping so-just having small issues.:D"

That's good to hear! Keep atit!! :D


message 67: by Dee (last edited Sep 18, 2012 10:24PM) (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) although I use to write when I was a kid I quit when I became an adult. I retired a few years ago, and I have had this story in my head. I wrote a couple of chapters, but I got stuck. I've stopped writing but the story won't go away. I HAVE TO write this story. That is why I joined this group. Maybe I can get some direction and some encouragement to finish the story.

It is an historical fiction with reincarnation thrown in. It starts out in first person, the writer in the prologue states that she believes she was put here on earth to learn how to love, the kind of love that is mentioned in corinthians. She believes that it has taken at least two lifetimes to accomplish it. She talks about going to a library, getting to know a man. Anyway one night while they were at the library, the lights went out and she happens to look at him when lightning flashes and when she sees his eyes she remembers...

Chapter one goes on to explain her life in the South in the early 1800s. As she is explaining her life she has a side story about how her parents met. Her mother was from the north and violently opposed to slavery and her father was a plantation owner and of course had slaves. It talks about them meeting and him dancing with her. She tells him to leave her alone and he does but at the end of chapter one he says we will meet again.

The problem I have is this is just a side story, do I continue with the side story in Chapter two or go on to the main story with the heroine, Mary Elizabeth? Please help me.


message 68: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
You'll get plenty of encouragement from people, no need to worry about that. Support is support earned, you know. You do the same as all of us. You write and let nothing stand in your way as the obstacles unfold before you.

Well, as to what you are inquiring you should do, I think it might be better if you worked on the main story first, leaving side stories aside until you get the gist of the main. Otherwise, you may get confused with the main character(s) by writing the side story first. Or, you can work on the side story (since it sounds like you already started it!) and work out the main stories head character's background.
If anything I said above was confusing, feel free to tell me. :)


message 69: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (last edited Sep 21, 2012 10:09PM) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "although I use to write when I was a kid I quit when I became an adult. I retired a few years ago, and I have had this story in my head. I wrote a couple of chapters, but I got stuck. I've stopped..."

If the side story is just concerning how her parents met I think it would be best to do it either one of two ways: You could simply make a brief telling of it, especially if it isn't a main theme. Or you could tell bits of it here and there as the story itself goes on. Maybe a scrap here in chapter one, a bit here in chapter three, some more in chapter five, or however you wish to do it.


message 70: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (last edited Sep 21, 2012 04:52AM) (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Interesting theory, Jul. :) But the pieces would have to fit in perfectly with the part of the story it is injected in.


message 71: by Shannon (new)

Shannon | 5 comments Rookie question here: how do you go about starting a new book/novel/story? I have the "cliff note" version written down, now what is the next step? The organized freak in me wants to make an outline of the book, and then the chapters individually. The "creative" side just wants to start writing and see where it takes me.

To those that write, what is your approach? What works for you?


message 72: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Well, Shannon, here's the thing: No two poeple write the same way. You have to go with what works for you. Some people find it very hard to write a book unless they've planned it all out before them; note for note, side-plot for side-plot and so forth. Some poeple find it easier to simply plunge into their work and see where it leads them.

I myself did the latter, for I found the idea of laying out an entire set-in-stone plan rather a bore. I felt that by writing as my ideas came I would have more room to manuver. That worked very well for me. I can't tell you how many times I've altered things that have gone a certain way in my story or added to things that already were. Because I hadn't set my mind on a specific entire plan (so to speak) I was allowed a considerable ammount of give. Do not misunderstand me though; I DID plan out my overview. That is to say that I knew what I wanted my story to be about, where it would start and where and how it would end, and even a few things that would happen in between. But as far as planning everything down to the last sub-plot... no. But then, I write fantasy. This may not be a good idea for another genre.


message 73: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
It depends on what you write, Shannon. Do you write fantasy, like Julius does? Or do you have your own genre to write? Either way, you have to find your own particular "flare in the night sky," as it were, amongst what others do their way.

That probably isn't much help. If you want to be a neat-freak, (no offense intended to anyone,) you should plot to your hearts concern. I would be plotting the "first" part of the book, write it up, plot the second half, make it fit into the first one, etc. But, like Julius said, follow the latter of feeling. :)


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~Hannah~Musicale~ (hhs_piano4ever) | 75 comments Mod
When I write I usually have a general idea of the storyline in my head as I write, but I don't tend to WRITE DOWN an actual plot, so always my stories end up so different from what I originally plan them to be. You could choose a couple of different ways: 1. Plan out everything completely and then write. 2. Think of things as you go along but have a plan that you can always come back to for ideas. 3. If you have to have a plan for it then you could just write then come up with a plan at the very end (working backwards sometimes works) 4. Not have a plan at all and just write whatever comes into your mind at the moment.

Choose whatever suits you best as an author, after all in the end a great story is what matters most! Looking forward to your story Shannon, when you write it all would you like to upload it here? Anyway hope this helps. :)


message 75: by Matthew (new)

Matthew Young (matthewgyoung) Haven't read this entire thread, but I wanted to share my process. It's long and extremely tedious at times, but so far it's helped me.

1.) Write down ideas, character names/traits, particular plot points and themes. This is really important for me because it helps me outline the story in my head. I do not outline. Ever. But I do keep really extensive notes with the above info on them. This works as an outline but it's hardly ever organized.

2.) Write scenes. I can't work linearly. I have to bounce around and write the scenes that I have in my head before I lose them.

3.) Organize. This is hard for me. I write a lot of very different things for the same story sometimes, and then have a tough time figuring out which scenes go where and whether or not they even belong in the book.

4.) Fill in gaps. This is what makes the story. I have all of these scenes, but I hardly ever write out the gap scenes before hand. This is important because it makes the story cohesive, but I find this stage the least enjoyable.


message 76: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (last edited Dec 24, 2012 05:58AM) (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Wow, that's a lot of pointers on writing a book, Matthew! Thanks for sharing what you think is helpful to others. :) Like you said, getting a grip on the character is important, as well as figuring out the plot naturally and through hardships. No book is ever written by sitting still. Extensive notes are good ideas, too, but of one mixes them up with another story, it could be disasterous. With things in too much dissarray, the papers get too jumbled. Best watch out for that, too! ^_^

Do you have a method-idea of choosing your story characters? Such as, looking around the room and picking names off of things, or having proper methods of putting together the character's Name. Meanwhile, plots can almost be the hardest thing to target most of all. You can choose to sit and carefully think and plan the story plot out, or you can just dive head-first into the pond and see what you catch.


Althea *Go wolves and dragons!*(Coach Hedge) Inigo (eiyah_fantasyfreak) | 18 comments Matthew wrote: "Haven't read this entire thread, but I wanted to share my process. It's long and extremely tedious at times, but so far it's helped me.

1.) Write down ideas, character names/traits, particular plo..."


Thanks, Matthew for sharing!


message 78: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
I have to agree there, Althea. :)


message 79: by Matthew (new)

Matthew Young (matthewgyoung) No problem, everyone. I would love to help anyone out who needs it, just send me a message. I might take a little bit to get back to you, but I'm always happy to help other writers.


message 80: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Matthew wrote: "Haven't read this entire thread, but I wanted to share my process. It's long and extremely tedious at times, but so far it's helped me.

1.) Write down ideas, character names/traits, particular plo..."


Hmmmm.... You're right about that sounding tedious, sir, but then to each his own.
I myself would find writing down and execudting everything you metnioned in above stated fashion rather tiresome. For me once I get into a story and find my step, I let it more or less have its say. It really will lead you to great places if you let it.
But for some people my method simply would not work. To me it also depends a great deal on what a person is writing.


message 81: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Well, since every writer is different, no matter what the genre, they all have different styles and methods. Two people's agreement is another's disagreement, if you get where I was headed with that.


Althea *Go wolves and dragons!*(Coach Hedge) Inigo (eiyah_fantasyfreak) | 18 comments Phoebe wrote: "I have to agree there, Althea. :)"

For what?


message 83: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Well, I agree that I was appreciating his sharing as well. O_o


Althea *Go wolves and dragons!*(Coach Hedge) Inigo (eiyah_fantasyfreak) | 18 comments Oooooooooooooooooooh...


Man, I'm slow-.-


message 85: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Don't worry, I would have taken longer to grasp it then you did.

I'm notoriously slow on the uptake at times.


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Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
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Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
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Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Lol. :)

Pretty! ^_^

Sorry, I just had to do the random stuff..


message 93: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
Phoebe wrote: "Well, since every writer is different, no matter what the genre, they all have different styles and methods. Two people's agreement is another's disagreement, if you get where I was headed with that."

Indeed. And I was merely putting forth a personal oppinion; 'tis an open discussion thread after all. :P


message 94: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
That's exactly what was also meant, Jul. :)
If we did not share our thoughts with others and ponder things through, would the world of today be so exciting as our present and future lives?


message 95: by Matthew (last edited Dec 29, 2012 06:33PM) (new)

Matthew Young (matthewgyoung) Julius wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Haven't read this entire thread, but I wanted to share my process. It's long and extremely tedious at times, but so far it's helped me.

1.) Write down ideas, character names/traits..."


I agree that it's a lot easier to just let the story go where it wants to go, and that's fine for a first draft, but I find that if I just do this, I end up having too many inconsistencies in my writing, the plot jumps around too much, and the story gets out of control. Things become way too disorganized.

With the wip I have going now, I ended up having to delete about 12,000 words because of this, so I'm finding that the process I talked about before has become absolutely necessary. It's fun now that I have it under control and a lot less frustrating, although slower going.


message 96: by Julius, He Who Arises in Might (:D) (new)

Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
I see. Well I'm glad to hear that that works for you. I find it very interesting how differently two people can go about doing something. No one is exactly the same.
Also I know what you mean about there being many inconsistencies were one to go about writing in that manner. What's one man's candy is another man's lima bean.


message 97: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Argh. Lima bwana... -.-


message 98: by Phoebe, TheInvincibleRabbit (new)

Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
Bassa on tasterà of how to do tinga, Everyone varietà seperately while they tra to do things their ogni way.


^_^


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Phoebe (theneveronlinechick) | 3313 comments Mod
-_-

I NEED NORMAL LANGUAGE


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Julius (bookseeker007) | 1781 comments Mod
........................ I'll say.


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