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message 101: by Chris (new)

Chris  | 419 comments Jaq wrote: "Terri wrote: "Because of his famous battle with the Saxon's at Stamford Bridge I am adding this book here as well as the Viking thread.

Saw this book on Goodreads..
Harald Hardrada by John Marsden
Ha..."


The only stuff I've read about Hardrada that is from a Viking point of view has been non-fiction, where he seems to have had some positive characteristics as well as some of those more usually expected of Viking kings. The only HF I've read about him has been pro-Saxon and negative, so this one could be very interesting.


message 102: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I agree. When I first found it I was instantly pleased to see it. I have wanted someone to write a good hf from this perspective for a long time.
Then I forgot about it. :) Thanks to Jaq for reminding me.


message 103: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I think it is a good choice. I am enjoying Sworn Sword. Had some issues with pet health this week so haven't been as focused on reading as I would have liked. Still only approx 150 pages in, but I really like it thus far.


message 104: by Nathaniel (new)

Nathaniel Burns (burns_writer) | 4 comments Blood and Honour The Battle for Saxony (A Historical Novel Set in the Dark Ages) by John Lincoln

After three years of research and six months of writing I published my debut novel "Blood and Honour - The Battle for Saxony", a historical novel set in the dark ages, as an Kindle ebook on Amazon.com in December 2012.

Description:

Europe, in the year of the Lord 772. Like a bloody storm, Charlemagne's armies ravage early medieval Europe, leaving devastation and misery in their wake. They have subdued the kingdom of the Langobards, defeated the duchy of Bavaria; they threaten the Moors in the west and, in the south, the pope in Rome.

Yet Charlemagne has even more ambitious plans: he covets the Saxon territories in the north. The Saxons put up an unexpectedly fierce resistance. When Charlemagne's troops destroy the Irminsul shrine, the Saxon holy of holies, there ensues a struggle to the death. Led by the legendary Duke Widukind, for decades the Saxons fight savagely for their beliefs and their independence. And they will have their revenge...

Blood and Honour: The Battle for Saxony


message 105: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Not many historical fiction that cover that era, John. Good to see.


message 106: by Tim (new)

Tim Hodkinson (timhodkinson) | 577 comments Terri wrote: "Not many historical fiction that cover that era, John. Good to see."

If its OK to spam then I would like to mention I've a couple of short stories in that era available on kindle:

All the King's Thanes
and
Beowulf's Return


message 107: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Well it is okay for you to spam, my friend, as you are an active group member. :-)

Re: that era
Your shorts aren't Charlemagne and the Franks though are they? That is the era of history I feel is not touched on much, if at all, in historical fiction.

Does anyone know of any historical fiction based on Charlemagne and the Franks and the expansion of their kingdom?


message 108: by Bryn (last edited Jan 09, 2013 11:37AM) (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Sons of the Wolf by Paula Lofting. Set at the time of the Norman Conquest.
I haven't read it, just heard about it.
Sons of the Wolf by Paula Lofting


message 109: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Has some good ratings. (Some not so good too, but more good ones than bad)


message 110: by Laura (new)

Laura Hi all, just joined the group.

I'm interested in finding historical fiction focussing on Alfred the Great. I'm aware of Bernard Cornwell's series but I tend to prefer in depth one-off books which aren't part of a long series.

Any suggestions?


message 111: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I'll get back to you. :-)
Lol. I mean, I have to think about it for a bit.


message 112: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Try this to a book list it's mainly non fiction.

http://www3.hants.gov.uk/library/book...


message 114: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I think Alfred Duggan could be some.
The Cunning of the Dove by Alfred Duggan Conscience of the King by Alfred Duggan


message 115: by Laura (new)

Laura Thanks Mark and Terri, that's a good lot to keep me going.


message 116: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Good luck finding some reads you enjoy, Laura.


message 117: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Not sure how on earth we overlooked this book for so long. I only found it because I spotted the second in the series.

The Bone Thief (Wulfgar, #1) by V.M. Whitworth
The Bone Thief

The second one is
The Traitors' Pit (Wulfgar, #2) by V.M. Whitworth
The Traitors' Pit

At first I thought they were YA. I don't think they are.


message 118: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Good find Terri.


message 119: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I can't help thinking that i have seen it before now. But for some reason it never made an impression. I think the second cover was what made the impression.
Covers are everything when it comes to that sort of thing.
They must be eye catching. That book one, while the cover is nice enough, it is not memorable.


message 120: by Kevin (new)

Kevin Futers (gruffling) | 11 comments Hi, I'm just posting a quick note here so that I get notifications of updates here.

Hi everyone!


message 121: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) If you click on the Email me when people comment link above the comment box and then hit the tiny edit link that comes up.....you can set the notifications you want for any thread without posting in it.

Or you can post in the thread, that is also fine with us. :)


message 122: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments It's not a car park... but it's a score for Phil Harding of Time Team fame.

http://www.24dash.com/news/housing/20...


message 123: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Darcy wrote: "It's not a car park... but it's a score for Phil Harding of Time Team fame.

http://www.24dash.com/news/housing/20......"


That's brilliant. Thanks for posting that one. Good to hear what Phil Harding is up to. Most of all though...very exciting finds.


message 124: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments What 6 years of digging can reveal about an Anglo-Saxon settlement

http://archaeology.org/issues/89-1305...


message 125: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Ooooo. Great article..that main picture of the site blew my socks off...long though. :-)
I didn't get it all read. Shall come back later today.


message 126: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Yeah. That mound of dirt could be a lesson on how to build a Saxon barrow. ;)


message 127: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments It is just fabulous. I am glad they got an overhead shot like that. It is the only way to truly show the splendid nature of the site.


message 128: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Jun 09, 2013 06:54PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments This has been talked about in the Bernard Cornwell thread, but really, it has to go here too. So all you Saxon series fans can find it through this thread.

#7 in the Bernard Cornwell Saxon series (Warrior Chronicles) is out September 2013.
The Pagan Lord (The Saxon Stories, #7) by Bernard Cornwell
The Pagan Lord
The new novel in Bernard Cornwell's number one bestselling series The Warrior Chronicles, on the making of England and the fate of his great hero, Uhtred of Bebbanburg. Alfred the Great is dead and Edward his son reigns as king. Wessex survives but peace cannot hold. The Danes in the north, led by Viking Cnut Longsword, stand ready to invade and will never rest until the emerald crown is theirs. Uhtred, once Alfred's great warrior but now out of favour with the new king, must lead a band of outcasts north to recapture his old family home, that great Northumbrian fortress, Bebbanburg. Loyalties will be divided and men will fall, as every Saxon kingdom is drawn into the bloodiest battle yet with the Danes; a war which will decide the fate of every king, and the entire English nation.

Loving the book cover:



message 129: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I just pre ordered The Pagan Lord (The Saxon Stories, #7) by Bernard Cornwell The Pagan Lord.

The Book Depository had a 5% discount on any books in your wishlist, so I decided to pick up a few books.


message 130: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) So when will you get it??


message 131: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments It should be shipped on the UK release date. September?


message 132: by Steven (new)

Steven McKay (stevenamckay) Finished Severin's "Saxon", it was okay, solid 3-4 stars. Some quite major niggles in it, but I enjoyed the style so I'll probably read the next in the series.
I'm looking forward to "The Pagan Lord" VERY much!


message 133: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Jul 20, 2013 03:43PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Here's the link for that one. Gotta link if not linked in last four posts. :-)
Saxon: The Book of Dreams (beware folks, this one may be fantasy)

I see his next one is this one due out in August. Doesn't sound fantasy like the first: Saxon: The Emperor's Elephant


message 134: by Julia (new)

Julia (julia_kulak) | 14 comments Jone Wolf Has a book out about Alfred the great called edge of light. I haven't read it yet, but it looks intriguing.


message 135: by Nick (new)

Nick Smith (RoguesNest) | 90 comments Has anyone read Hereward. If so, what did you think of it?

(I believe it was marketed under this alternative name in the US The Time of the Wolf: A Novel of Medieval England)

I just started last night...


message 136: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I read the sample via 'look inside' on Amazon...a couple times. The writing is not my kind of writing.
Others here have enjoyed it though. So good luck!


message 137: by Nick (new)

Nick Smith (RoguesNest) | 90 comments Terri wrote: "I read the sample via 'look inside' on Amazon...a couple times. The writing is not my kind of writing.
Others here have enjoyed it though. So good luck!"


Ah, I was hoping you were going to tell me it gets better! I'm a few chapters in and he's already killed a dozen men single-handedly, as well as a pack of wolves. The dialogue is cheesy and sometimes incongruous.

It's almost as if he's describing a violent B Movie or an adult comic.


message 138: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments It appears that you are seeing what I was seeing. Sorry to hear it. But yeah, your descriptions are bang inline with my impressions.


message 139: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments And so it begins.
Today i shall turn the first page on The Pagan Lord (The Saxon Stories, #7) by Bernard Cornwell The Pagan Lord


message 140: by Dar B (new)

Dar B (ruminatingbulls) | 137 comments Exciting, Terri! I have no idea when I'll be able to get that book.


message 141: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) And I should have said before but it's nice to have you back Darla. :)


message 142: by Dar B (new)

Dar B (ruminatingbulls) | 137 comments Thanks, Dawn!! It's good to be back and to see that you and Terri are still running this interesting group!


message 143: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Yep. We aren't going anywhere. :)


message 144: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) What would I do while I watched TV if I didn't have GR's? I have to stay just for that. :)


message 145: by Jarrod (new)

Jarrod Dunham (thehistoryphile) | 65 comments I'm not sure if this is appropriate however, Medieval Warfare magazine's current issue is titled 'King Alfred the Great and the Great Heathen Army'. The articles are a good background for Cornwell's series.


message 146: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Sure, looks interesting. We take our history wherever we can find it. :)
Link here: http://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/...


message 147: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Jarrod wrote: "I'm not sure if this is appropriate however, Medieval Warfare magazine's current issue is titled 'King Alfred the Great and the Great Heathen Army'. The articles are a good background for Cornwell'..."

Tis entirely appropriate. :)


message 148: by Jarrod (new)

Jarrod Dunham (thehistoryphile) | 65 comments Terri wrote: "Tis entirely appropriate.:)"

Good to know.


message 149: by The Idle Woman (new)

The Idle Woman (theidlewoman) I think this is the right place to mention this. I've just finished reading Hild by Nicola Griffith which is absolutely wonderful. It's not the usual battle-heavy Saxon novel but one that focuses on the rhythms of life at this date and the relationship between the people and the land - centred on Hild, niece and seer to Edwin of Northumbria. The writing is beautiful and the history (as far as I can tell) very good. I've heard now that it's intended to be the first part of a trilogy following the entirety of Hild's life. I would really recommend it - with the warning that it's quite languid and subtle, with some battles (and a shield wall!) but also quite a lot of quiet watching and learning as Hild studies the people and natural world around her. It's one of the few books that has really made me feel as if I'm being enveloped in the time in question.

You can see my review here


message 150: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) That is a very new book. My library has it on order so I think it will add it.


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