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What will Jason do about Reyna and Piper?
Reneered wrote: "SPOILER ALERT!!!This is a line from MoA that broke my heart. Fuck Rick Riordan.
Reyna said bitterly. "The spear is thrown. Our people are at war."
"Not if I succeed ," Annabeth said.
Reyna's e..."
I read the first few chapters. I almost cried for Reyna. Annabeth was saying how she loved Jason, and then Percy, but now she's all alone. It was sooooooo sad. =( poor Reyna. Does she get a POV? it seems like that.
What, she's supposed to be happy? Please tell me that you didn't actually type that. Her best friend's been missing for eight months and she has no idea if he's dead or alive, she's had to take care of two hundred people by herself, and you expect her to be laid back?
Yumna wrote: "i actually thought i would like reyna a lot...you know where jason mentioned her in the last part of the lost hero? i thought she'd be, like..their age, and their rank, and nice and funny..like pip..."Not everyone's nice and funny, you know. It was actually a nice change to have a character who isn't like that, for once. And besides, we didn't even see her that many times. Piper had a whole book. you can't judge her yet.
Maninee wrote: "Having said all that, I do however like Reyna more than Piper. Piper, in my opinion, is whiny, overpossesive and bossy. Not to mention that she has no special powers worth speaking of(I find charms..."Thank you for saying that!!! I love Reyna's character too.
MaxRide wrote: "Yeah, I agree, and I think that piper would be heartbroken otherwise."Have you seen spoilers for the Mark of Athena yet? Piper's the exact opposite. I think you'll feel bad for Reyna.
Vio14 wrote: "What, she's supposed to be happy? Please tell me that you didn't actually type that. Her best friend's been missing for eight months and she has no idea if he's dead or alive, she's had to take car..."
Was that directed towards me?
If it was, of course I don't expect her to be laid back. I never stated that. All I'm saying is that Jason is being a jerk to her, Percy's practically ignoring her, Piper's jealous of her, Octavian's being annoying (yet I still love him), etc.
Look, RR hit the jackpot with Reyna. She was my favorite character in the entire series. But he isn't utilizing her potential. (Does that make any sense?)
I don't want her to be laid back. But instead of people feeling sorry for her, I want them to do something about it.
My baby will get a decent ending. She deserves it.
Was that directed towards me?
If it was, of course I don't expect her to be laid back. I never stated that. All I'm saying is that Jason is being a jerk to her, Percy's practically ignoring her, Piper's jealous of her, Octavian's being annoying (yet I still love him), etc.
Look, RR hit the jackpot with Reyna. She was my favorite character in the entire series. But he isn't utilizing her potential. (Does that make any sense?)
I don't want her to be laid back. But instead of people feeling sorry for her, I want them to do something about it.
My baby will get a decent ending. She deserves it.
Carrie the awesome wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Yes, she does have flaws. And I'd love her flaws IF somebody actually noticed them. They wouldn't have to call her out on them but actually noticing them would be nice instead of t..."
You call that a flaw? A flaw is something that gets someone into trouble. Actual trouble. One example would be Hermione Granger from Harry Potter. First book, she was a TOTAL know-it-all. Got everyone to dislike her.
Of course, maybe I'm just being biased. I mean, for me, HP is the best series I've ever read. (Although, LOTR is pretty good. XD)
You call that a flaw? A flaw is something that gets someone into trouble. Actual trouble. One example would be Hermione Granger from Harry Potter. First book, she was a TOTAL know-it-all. Got everyone to dislike her.
Of course, maybe I'm just being biased. I mean, for me, HP is the best series I've ever read. (Although, LOTR is pretty good. XD)
Vio14 wrote: "What, she's supposed to be happy? Please tell me that you didn't actually type that. Her best friend's been missing for eight months and she has no idea if he's dead or alive, she's had to take car..."If you're talking to me I don't expect her to be fine. I felt awful for her. She held up great.
Reneered wrote: "Carrie the awesome wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Yes, she does have flaws. And I'd love her flaws IF somebody actually noticed them. They wouldn't have to call her out on them but actually noticing them..."I see what you mean. I think she does need more flaws, but part of the reason I like her is those unseen flaws like selfishness, and insecurity. They are loosely described and I wished he would go not detail with them.
And HP is unbelievably awesome. :). HERMIONE IS EPIC!!!!!! :)))))
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Reneered wrote: "Althea *Go wolves and dragons!* wrote: "Leo/ReynaJason/Piper
Frank/Hazel and....
Percy/ Annabeth!!!
Everyone's happy!"
I'm not going to be happy. Jason and Piper bring out the worst in each oth..."
If you think about it....Reyna kinda needs Leo so she can learn how to relax and take a break sometimes and Leo kinda needs her so he can learn how to be serious a little too. She may also comfort him sometimes when he feels un-confident or upset.
And I think they would have each other's backs and they would be very entertaining...no offense...
But I do agree with ya when you said about Jason and Piper bringing the worse out of each other I mean...seriously.
Annnnnnd if Piper is whiny, possessive, and bossy, then isn't she flawed? MoA's 2nd-3rd chpts made me love Reyna soooooooooo much. I almost cried for her.
C'mon, Rey! You can do better then the personality less Jason. Leo!!!!!
:).
Piper likes pink
Reyna likes blue
And They're both awesome
What should Jason do?
The beautiful charm speaker?
The powerful warrior?
Jason, JUST PICK!!
No war could be gorier
Jeyna or Jasper?
Oh when will it end?
The whole HoO world
Has themselves to defend
Some like the hot
Some like the cold
But we'd all like Jason to pick
Before we grow old.
This fandom is turning
Into a 'team' war
When the romance ends
we'll have action galore
Us fan girls are crazy
Lashing like mad
We NEED to calm down
Before we're all sad
Piper is pretty
Reyna is smart
Jason's annoying
Why aren't they all apart?
So Rick we must wait
Until the series is done
I hope whoever isn't picked
Isn't put into shun
Piper likes pink
And Reyna likes blue
I love them both
If I were Jason, oh what would I do?
~CTA.
I am hilarious. Just kidding. I have no idea where the poetry came from.
Althea *Go wolves and dragons!* wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Althea *Go wolves and dragons!* wrote: "Leo/Reyna
Jason/Piper
Frank/Hazel and....
Percy/ Annabeth!!!
Everyone's happy!"
I'm not going to be happy. Jason and Piper bring out the ..."
Reyna comforting someone? Please. Look, I'm trying to help all of the characters develop. Piper is kinder than Reyna. That's obvious. Leo needs someone like Piper. Piper needs someone like Leo. AKA Someone who doesn't drool over her.
Maybe if Reyna and Jason end up together, Reyna can help Jason grow as a character and stop drooling over girls. -_-
Jason/Piper
Frank/Hazel and....
Percy/ Annabeth!!!
Everyone's happy!"
I'm not going to be happy. Jason and Piper bring out the ..."
Reyna comforting someone? Please. Look, I'm trying to help all of the characters develop. Piper is kinder than Reyna. That's obvious. Leo needs someone like Piper. Piper needs someone like Leo. AKA Someone who doesn't drool over her.
Maybe if Reyna and Jason end up together, Reyna can help Jason grow as a character and stop drooling over girls. -_-
Carrie the awesome wrote: "Annnnnnd if Piper is whiny, possessive, and bossy, then isn't she flawed?
MoA's 2nd-3rd chpts made me love Reyna soooooooooo much. I almost cried for her.
C'mon, Rey! You can do better then the ..."
Yes, they WOULD be flaws if someone actually recognized them. We recognize them, of course, but Mary-Sues are judged by how the CHARACTERS see them, NOT the readers. Take Bella Swan. Most readers (like me) hate her. All characters love her. She's a Mary-Sue. Get what I'm saying?
At first, I was thrilled that Piper had different flaws than the usual stubborn/hot-headed combination. But then, I realized that no one, besides the one dimensional characters that were put there for readers to hate, noticed them.
Come on, it's not really a flaw if no one recognizes it.
MoA's 2nd-3rd chpts made me love Reyna soooooooooo much. I almost cried for her.
C'mon, Rey! You can do better then the ..."
Yes, they WOULD be flaws if someone actually recognized them. We recognize them, of course, but Mary-Sues are judged by how the CHARACTERS see them, NOT the readers. Take Bella Swan. Most readers (like me) hate her. All characters love her. She's a Mary-Sue. Get what I'm saying?
At first, I was thrilled that Piper had different flaws than the usual stubborn/hot-headed combination. But then, I realized that no one, besides the one dimensional characters that were put there for readers to hate, noticed them.
Come on, it's not really a flaw if no one recognizes it.
woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all rightSure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone noticed she trys to dress herself down and put herself down thats actully a sign of insecurities which is a flaw also like some one said people say shes possesive whiny they are flaws too
Now that in no way means i think piper is the best in fact i liked reyna more from like day 1 but even reyna can be a little air headed sometimes i mean she tried to make a move on percy literally 12 hours after meeting him. A little scetchy
Now JASON gods every flipping Pjo fan seems to be saying i hate jason. okay so why??? because he's not percy. WHAT THE ______(enter word of choice) i have about 4 things to tell you
1> id really hope Jason was not anything like Percy because there not...let me make this clear THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON
2>i hope you realize Jason is a lot like Percy if you
took all of Percys personalities save for his wierd sense of humor and his go with the flow philosophy and gave him blonde hair and then set him to Roman Boot Camp you would get Jason
3>you guys realize if uncle rick gave you a new Percy then youd say he's too perdictable
4> REALLY??? REALLY???
and also to the people who like to say Jason lacks personality think of all the things Jason has gone through i don;t know bout you but in the words of Percy Jackson i wouldnt be a "ray of sunshine"((look for the extended preview))
ANYwho...this was not ment to be offensive to anyone att all
PS having said that id like to say i totally agree that reyna shold totall find love in leo they are soo cute together
I'm not saying I hate him because his not Percy.
No offense taken.
Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all rightSure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone noticed she trys to d..."
I don't hate Jason....that much. And the reason I do is that he is not an interesting character.
I quote Annabeth's first chapter "she didn't trust Jason. He seemed too perfect." something like that.
Reneered wrote: "Carrie the awesome wrote: "Annnnnnd if Piper is whiny, possessive, and bossy, then isn't she flawed? MoA's 2nd-3rd chpts made me love Reyna soooooooooo much. I almost cried for her.
C'mon, Rey! ..."
Good point. I think that when Piper and Reyna interact more, I think that REYNA will see them. I'd wish they'd interact more. I think (as mentioned) that that'll help Piper develop more.
Free-spirit wrote: "I don't hate Jason because he isn't percy , I hate him because he thinks himself better than the others or stronger some how....
" 'm the son of Jupiter, I'm a child of Rome, consul to demigods, p..."
Look, Porphyrion challenged him to a boasting contest. And he accepted. As if Percy has never threatened a monster before. He has.
Jason does not think himself as better. He just let Porphyrion know what he was dealing with (and it wasn't much, actually) and he was trying to put on a show of confidence.
" 'm the son of Jupiter, I'm a child of Rome, consul to demigods, p..."
Look, Porphyrion challenged him to a boasting contest. And he accepted. As if Percy has never threatened a monster before. He has.
Jason does not think himself as better. He just let Porphyrion know what he was dealing with (and it wasn't much, actually) and he was trying to put on a show of confidence.
Carrie the awesome wrote: "Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all right
Sure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone notice..."
Look, if Annabeth notices that he's too perfect than obviously RR notices that he's perfect as well. And I'm sure that if RR was aware that a character he created was too perfect, then the character in actuality isn't really that perfect at all.
Now that I've read MoA, Jason is not a Gary-Stu. No way. He is a selfish bastard who turns his back on his people for Pretty Piper. I hate him. Bastard.
Sure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone notice..."
Look, if Annabeth notices that he's too perfect than obviously RR notices that he's perfect as well. And I'm sure that if RR was aware that a character he created was too perfect, then the character in actuality isn't really that perfect at all.
Now that I've read MoA, Jason is not a Gary-Stu. No way. He is a selfish bastard who turns his back on his people for Pretty Piper. I hate him. Bastard.
Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all right
Sure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone noticed she trys to d..."
If she had a sign of insecurity, she would put on more makeup to cover up her flaws. Obviously, she is not insecure. She is just a modest too perfect gal who gets everything while Reyna gets nothing. WTF is wrong with RR?
Sure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone noticed she trys to d..."
If she had a sign of insecurity, she would put on more makeup to cover up her flaws. Obviously, she is not insecure. She is just a modest too perfect gal who gets everything while Reyna gets nothing. WTF is wrong with RR?
Anyone want to go on a quest to save the world? I already consulted the augur.
The prophecy is:
Some shall band together and go to the land with no rain,
Together they will face the writer who has gone insane.
Perhaps they can help him retrieve his brain,
And then a better HoO series they will gain.
Weird prophecy, right? Well, this is a weird quest. XP
The prophecy is:
Some shall band together and go to the land with no rain,
Together they will face the writer who has gone insane.
Perhaps they can help him retrieve his brain,
And then a better HoO series they will gain.
Weird prophecy, right? Well, this is a weird quest. XP
Reneered wrote: "Anyone want to go on a quest to save the world? I already consulted the augur. The prophecy is:
Some shall band together and go to the land with no rain,
Together they will face the writer who ha..."
LOL but sirusly lets now stray away from this topic it is starting to get a little ugly lets talk about.....umm......
did you guys read the equinox q and a's if you havent ill post them here
Reneered wrote: "Carrie the awesome wrote: "Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all rightSure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect ..."
Poor Reyna :(.
And I've read the first 7 chapters. The only thing that does go good for Reyna is that she and Annabeth get along.
And Jason was a total SoB**** to Reyna, asking if he could show PIPER around.
I mean I get that Jason and Piper are together, but JASON
was it really nessacary for you to mention it in front of Reyna?
I think I'd rather have Jason be personality less than this.
Jason is so cruel
Why can't Reyna and Piper just duel?
Jason, at least talk about it
I assure you, Piper WON't throw a fit
Reyna is so sad
Jason should feel bad
Reyna, at least punch him
So your eyes won't be so dim
Piper needs some flaws
But at least SHE follows the kindness laws
Piper, get rid of Jason
Just tell him YOU ARE DONE
Jason's mean
Piper has way too much sheen
This maks Reyna sad
And that is VERY VERY BAD
Jason, Reyna, Piper?
This love triangle stinks like a dirty diaper
Jasper, Jeyna, it will end soon
And then I will be over the moon
Free-spirit wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Free-spirit wrote: "I don't hate Jason because he isn't percy , I hate him because he thinks himself better than the others or stronger some how....
" 'm the son of Jupiter, I'm a..."
What I was saying was that Jason was trying to put on a false show of confidence. That's what leaders do. Even if they're dead scared inside, they won't show it.
" 'm the son of Jupiter, I'm a..."
What I was saying was that Jason was trying to put on a false show of confidence. That's what leaders do. Even if they're dead scared inside, they won't show it.
Free-spirit wrote: "A leader put plans based on what the case is ,if he know it is too dangerous. And heis scared it is true he doesn't show that but he explain it to his friends and followers not just show he can do ..."
Look, if Annabeth notices that he's too perfect than obviously RR notices that he's perfect as well. And I'm sure that if RR was aware that a character he created was too perfect, then the character in actuality isn't really that perfect at all.
Now that I've read MoA, Jason is not a Gary-Stu. No way. He is a selfish bastard who turns his back on his people for Pretty Piper. I hate him. Bastard.
Look, if Annabeth notices that he's too perfect than obviously RR notices that he's perfect as well. And I'm sure that if RR was aware that a character he created was too perfect, then the character in actuality isn't really that perfect at all.
Now that I've read MoA, Jason is not a Gary-Stu. No way. He is a selfish bastard who turns his back on his people for Pretty Piper. I hate him. Bastard.
Emeline wrote: "I think that-Piper and Jason will end up together (personally I like Jason/Reyna but anyways)
Percy and Annabeth (duh)
I think that Frank will die. I really hope he doesn't, but I just think he wi..."
It also says in The Son of Neptune that Iris says "Someday it will burn. I foresee that you will be holding it when it happens"
I mean... come on. A goddess tells you you're going to die with the stick in your hand- she's not talking about when your 40... or like after the big quest. She's talking about soon. So Frank... sadly... is going to me
Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all rightSure Piper lacks much content seems too perfect but hello has anyone noticed she trys to d..."
where's the extended preview?
its on google or something. Im not sure if its even real but it skips like four pages, so after 3 chapters, you just get really lost. I think its somewhere in the percybeth reunion group. maybe jasonhaters? idk. wish i could help more :/
hm okay watevs i can wait for 2 days
It's too far. Besides, i wont be able to get it right away :(
Savannah wrote: "Emeline wrote: "I think that-Piper and Jason will end up together (personally I like Jason/Reyna but anyways)
Percy and Annabeth (duh)
I think that Frank will die. I really hope he doesn't, but I ..."
Now that I'm done freaking out about Animorphs (OMGASH I LOVE THOSE BOOKS/SHOW!!! I REALLY HOPE K.A.Applegate RE-WRITES THE BEGINNING IN HONOR OF THE RE-RELEASE OF ANIMORPHS). Ohkay then.
ANYWHO...
I don't want the Frankster to die. Eh, heck, I don't want any of the seven to die.
But Frank doesn't deserve it! unlike some people *cough cough Ja cough son*. ;)
But it's so sad and true. Frank will probably die.
eh...
on a totally awesome note I'm watching Cadet Kelly now. That's not that awesome, but the fact that JAKE BERENSON is in it makes it better.
Okay, not Jake, but the actor who played him ;).
Emily wrote: "its on google or something. Im not sure if its even real but it skips like four pages, so after 3 chapters, you just get really lost. I think its somewhere in the percybeth reunion group. maybe jas..."its rite here http://books.google.com/books?id=gHoL...
read the reunion !!!
I'm sure Jason is a smart character that knows what he's doing lets leave the voting up to him aka Rick.
Carrie the awesome wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Carrie the awesome wrote: "Binali wrote: "woah woah woah before you guys light the world on fire let me make something clear you guys are all rightSure Piper lacks much content s..."
Wow...where does these random poems come from?
So, a couple of days ago, I read the Mark of Athena. I didn't get a chance to do a full-on review so I'm going to take the time to do it now.
I had pretty low expectations for the Mark of Athena. Rick Riordan is a brilliant author but he really let me down with the Heroes of Olympus. I loved the plot. But the characters...meh.
So, when I started reading, I expected it to be Twlight bad. I'm glad to say that I was pleasantly surprised.
Characters:
Percy - I loved him in Percy Jackson and the Olympians. He. Was. Awesomeness. In SoN, he was...different. He was more of a jerk. And when Hazel says that he has the good looks of a Roman god, I got really pissed. This is my Percy here. He does not have the good looks of a fricking Roman god. He is lovable, adorable Percy, not a Gary-Stu. And what the heck was it with all the romance? I mean, Annabeth didn't make an appearance but all he thought about was the romance between him and her. Um, they were dating for two months. They were friends for FOUR YEARS. And I was irritated because he remembered her, not his mother, just her. What is RR trying to say here? That the person he's known for all of his life is less important than his girlfriend? That was not sweet. It was irritating. But my theory is still that because she's his mortal point, he couldn't forget her. Plus, maybe Juno left him the memory of Annabeth because she would guide him, just like the memory of Thalia guided Jason.
Sorry, got off track.
In MoA, Percy rather irritated me at times. Like when he was mouthing off to Bacchus. In TLT, Percy mouthed off to Dionysus but he stopped because he knew that the god could drive him insane. He never pushed the god too far. But in MoA, despite the fact that he knew the Roman and Greek gods were different, (He admitted that in SoN when he was talking about Mars) he kept on being a smart ass.
And then Percy also annoyed me when Hercules came into the picture. I expected him to mention Zoe Nightshade. Talk to Hercules. Do something. Zoe gave up her fricking life. But Percy doesn't even mention her name. I mean, Percy's probably busy. But for him to forget the girl who sacrificed herself for him and his friends? That's supreme jerkiness right there.
I give his character 3.5/5 stars. He was okay. Not as good as I wanted. He seemed more like a filler character. He was just there. But I loved his bromance with Jason. I thought that was written rather well.
Annabeth - I like Annabeth as a character. She has flaws and she knows that. But she tries to improve them. I think I would like her as a friend, too. We would probably kill each other if we ever met as both our prides are the size of the Atlantic but she's a cool person. In fact, I rather liked her in MoA. She was simply Annabeth.
That being said, I had my own share of problems with her.
1. She mentioned that she had had a crush on Percy since she was twelve. No, no, no.
Percabeth was brilliantly written...in PJO. Part of the reason I adored it was because of their relationship. I loved how they had a complicated relationship and it wasn't all Insta!Love. And now RR is basically telling me that the wonderful Percabeth relationship was all a freaking lie?
2. She mentioned that she thought Nico had a crush on her.
That comment seemed so utterly out-of-place. It just irked me.
3. She went on and on about how Reyna was all alone and bitter and how she felt sorry for her yet she didn't do anything about it.
Come on. Siriusly? That's like saying, "I saw a puppy being beaten by it's owner. I feel sorry for her." and then not doing anything about it. She could've talked to Reyna, been kinder, something.
4. She was too powerful, for my tastes.
Not in like, the Percy way. But the fact that from a glance she could decipher that Frank and Hazel were dating but not for long and blah, blah, blah. With a skill like that, you could exploit someone's weakness and destroy them within seconds. I wouldn't have minded if she wasn't that good at reading people. But the fact that she could just look at someone and decipher who they were, how they felt, what kind of person they were, who they liked, etc. was a power overload.
Besides these problems I had with her, I liked her character. A lot. She told the story rather well. She wasn't a filler, like Percy.
4/5 stars for her.
Leo - I love Leo. He's just so realistic. Personality-wise, anyways. He's not perfect, he's the seventh wheel, but he's still a good person.
In MoA, he's matured. A lot. And I liked it - a lot. He still had the humor thing going for him but he grew up a bit, too. I could go on and on about how much I love this character. I love him as a friend and a character. I didn't really have any problems with him. However, just to be very nit-picky, I'm going to have to say this:
I didn't like how he just kept to himself. For some reason, I think that he's sort of the replacement for Grover. Because in PJO, Grover was kind of the person who called people out on their flaws. He stood up to his friends. Whenever someone's ego got too big, he decreased it. Without him, Percy's getting too cocky.
So when I read TLH, I thought, "This is it, peoples. This is the replacement for Grover. He's going to be the one to stand up to his friends."
So you can imagine my disappointment when in MoA, all he did was think about his friends' flaws. He kept quiet about his complaints. That's the type of person he is. It's not really something I hold against him because that's just who he is. It was just a personal disappointment for me.
I give him 4.5/5 stars. (That's really high in my book. To get that is an accomplishment.)
Piper - To tell you the truth, I've never really liked her. I've always wanted to. I've tried so freaking hard. I kept on repeating her positive features but I never truly liked her. I didn't hate her. Definitely not. I simply disliked her as a character - a lot. Even in the middle of The Lost Hero, I realized that I really, really disliked her.
So when I read MoA, I had low expectations for this character. Really low. But I really wanted to like her. I wanted her to be a good character.
However, she just made it so hard. She had a lot of flaws. Usually, that makes a character realistic. But with her...*sighs* everyone thinks she's perfect. She's pretty Piper and even though she has a lot of flaws, no one calls them out. No one cares. She's perfect in everyone's eyes.
1. She's selfish.
Example a. She realizes that Venus might be influencing Jason. She acknowledges that their relationship was built on fake memories. But she doesn't care. Page 473.
When you consider the possibility that your relationship with a guy might be fake and influenced by someone else, yet you don't care, well...there's something wrong with you.
Example b. When it's Jason's birthday and he has to make a wish, she hopes that he wishes that the two of them will get out of the quest alive and be together forever.
Um whoa, girl. What about Leo? Everything you've been through with Jason, Leo was mostly a part of it, too. And you call Annabeth one of your best friends yet you don't even think about her? What about Percy? Frank? Hazel? Come on, life is not a fairytale. Think about others.
Example c. "Piper eyes flashed defiantly, like anything Reyna could do, she could do." Page 213.
Come on, this isn't about Reyna. This is about the world. Just put your selfish desires away and think about other people. And Reyna's already lost. Just, please, stop.
Example d. She wants more and more alone time with Jason even though they were together almost all the time.
Example e. She doesn't put enough effort into the charmspeak to stop the Greeks and Romans from fighting because she's so afraid that Jason will go back to the Romans.
2. She's obsessed with Jason, once again.
In TLH, it was obvious that she was obsessed with Jason. She mentioned him over and over.
I own the Lost Hero and I have counted how many times they talk about each other's looks. Well, I started to but then I got tired from counting. But, in every Piper chapter that Jason makes an appearance in, Piper mentions how good-looking Jason is twice. And some of the chapters aren't even that long! Now, as for Jason mentioning Piper's looks, he mentions about 1.5 in each chapter that Piper makes an appearance in. Let's do the math, shall we? Well, there are 56 chapters in the Lost Hero. Now, Jason has two extra chapters at the end. Which means, we divide 54 by the number of POVs, which is 3. We get 18. Multiply eighteen times two and we get thirty-six. However, there are some Piper POV chapters in which Jason does not make an appearance in, therefore not giving her a chance to go on about his looks. Three of them to be exact. 18-3=15. 15*2=30. About thirty times for Piper. Of course, during some of those chapters, Piper doesn't get a chance to look at Jason, but I'm too tired to count all over again. But, roughly, this is how much Piper talks about Jason's looks. Now, for Jason. There are about five chapters in his POV in which Piper does not make an appearance. Twenty chapters in Jason's POV minus five. Fifteen. 15*1.5=22.5 Twenty two point five. That's how many times Jason mentions Piper's looks.
That's a lot. Certainly more than Percy and Annabeth. Of course, one might argue that Percy and Annabeth met in different circumstances but I've read Percy Jackson and the staff of Hermes. Percy talked about Annabeth's looks twice. One in the beginning and one near the middle. That's it. No more. And the entire story had forty pages. The Lost Hero had 557 pages and 56 chapters. That equals to about ten pages per chapter. In each chapter of the Lost Hero, Piper would talk about Jason's looks two times. Which means that, in the Staff of Hermes standards, Piper would talk about Jason's looks eight times in the short forty pages. And Jason would talk about Piper's looks six times in the story, compared to Percy's two times for Annabeth. And Percy and Annabeth were actually dating unlike Piper and Jason who liked each other but weren't actually dating. That's shallow. And Piper is convinced she's different from other Aphrodite girls. Please.
In TLH, at the campfire, when Drew called out that Jason was handsome and smart and the Aphrodite girls giggled, Piper thought, God, what a bunch of losers. How can she think that when she drooled over him during practically the entire book?
Sorry, got really off track there.
But yes, she is, once again obsessed with Jason. All she thinks about is him. That's exactly why most of my problems regarding her also regard her relationship with Jason. Because he's really all she thought about.
4. She's so fake.
Okay, so, somewhere in MoA, Annabeth comments on Piper's hair and how the white feathers braided into it look really nice against her dark hair. And then she goes on to wonder how Piper had time to do that while Annabeth barely had time to brush it.
Okay, so Piper, the apparent "tomboy" has time to freaking braid feathers in her hair? She says that she doesn't care about her looks but yet she does that? She complains about being pretty and that's why her hair is choppy but yet she continually tries to look good?
"[Piper] rushed to get dressed. By the time she got up on deck, the others had already gathered--all hastily dressed except for Coach Hedge, who had pulled the night watch.
Frank's Vancouver Winter Olympics shirt was inside out. Percy wore pajama pants and a bronze breastplate, which was an interesting fashion statement. Hazel's hair was all blown to one side as though she'd walked through a cyclone; and Leo had accidentally set himself on fire. His T-shirt was in charred tatters. His arms were smoking."
(I'll post the rest of this later. Goodreads says it's too long.)
I had pretty low expectations for the Mark of Athena. Rick Riordan is a brilliant author but he really let me down with the Heroes of Olympus. I loved the plot. But the characters...meh.
So, when I started reading, I expected it to be Twlight bad. I'm glad to say that I was pleasantly surprised.
Characters:
Percy - I loved him in Percy Jackson and the Olympians. He. Was. Awesomeness. In SoN, he was...different. He was more of a jerk. And when Hazel says that he has the good looks of a Roman god, I got really pissed. This is my Percy here. He does not have the good looks of a fricking Roman god. He is lovable, adorable Percy, not a Gary-Stu. And what the heck was it with all the romance? I mean, Annabeth didn't make an appearance but all he thought about was the romance between him and her. Um, they were dating for two months. They were friends for FOUR YEARS. And I was irritated because he remembered her, not his mother, just her. What is RR trying to say here? That the person he's known for all of his life is less important than his girlfriend? That was not sweet. It was irritating. But my theory is still that because she's his mortal point, he couldn't forget her. Plus, maybe Juno left him the memory of Annabeth because she would guide him, just like the memory of Thalia guided Jason.
Sorry, got off track.
In MoA, Percy rather irritated me at times. Like when he was mouthing off to Bacchus. In TLT, Percy mouthed off to Dionysus but he stopped because he knew that the god could drive him insane. He never pushed the god too far. But in MoA, despite the fact that he knew the Roman and Greek gods were different, (He admitted that in SoN when he was talking about Mars) he kept on being a smart ass.
And then Percy also annoyed me when Hercules came into the picture. I expected him to mention Zoe Nightshade. Talk to Hercules. Do something. Zoe gave up her fricking life. But Percy doesn't even mention her name. I mean, Percy's probably busy. But for him to forget the girl who sacrificed herself for him and his friends? That's supreme jerkiness right there.
I give his character 3.5/5 stars. He was okay. Not as good as I wanted. He seemed more like a filler character. He was just there. But I loved his bromance with Jason. I thought that was written rather well.
Annabeth - I like Annabeth as a character. She has flaws and she knows that. But she tries to improve them. I think I would like her as a friend, too. We would probably kill each other if we ever met as both our prides are the size of the Atlantic but she's a cool person. In fact, I rather liked her in MoA. She was simply Annabeth.
That being said, I had my own share of problems with her.
1. She mentioned that she had had a crush on Percy since she was twelve. No, no, no.
Percabeth was brilliantly written...in PJO. Part of the reason I adored it was because of their relationship. I loved how they had a complicated relationship and it wasn't all Insta!Love. And now RR is basically telling me that the wonderful Percabeth relationship was all a freaking lie?
2. She mentioned that she thought Nico had a crush on her.
That comment seemed so utterly out-of-place. It just irked me.
3. She went on and on about how Reyna was all alone and bitter and how she felt sorry for her yet she didn't do anything about it.
Come on. Siriusly? That's like saying, "I saw a puppy being beaten by it's owner. I feel sorry for her." and then not doing anything about it. She could've talked to Reyna, been kinder, something.
4. She was too powerful, for my tastes.
Not in like, the Percy way. But the fact that from a glance she could decipher that Frank and Hazel were dating but not for long and blah, blah, blah. With a skill like that, you could exploit someone's weakness and destroy them within seconds. I wouldn't have minded if she wasn't that good at reading people. But the fact that she could just look at someone and decipher who they were, how they felt, what kind of person they were, who they liked, etc. was a power overload.
Besides these problems I had with her, I liked her character. A lot. She told the story rather well. She wasn't a filler, like Percy.
4/5 stars for her.
Leo - I love Leo. He's just so realistic. Personality-wise, anyways. He's not perfect, he's the seventh wheel, but he's still a good person.
In MoA, he's matured. A lot. And I liked it - a lot. He still had the humor thing going for him but he grew up a bit, too. I could go on and on about how much I love this character. I love him as a friend and a character. I didn't really have any problems with him. However, just to be very nit-picky, I'm going to have to say this:
I didn't like how he just kept to himself. For some reason, I think that he's sort of the replacement for Grover. Because in PJO, Grover was kind of the person who called people out on their flaws. He stood up to his friends. Whenever someone's ego got too big, he decreased it. Without him, Percy's getting too cocky.
So when I read TLH, I thought, "This is it, peoples. This is the replacement for Grover. He's going to be the one to stand up to his friends."
So you can imagine my disappointment when in MoA, all he did was think about his friends' flaws. He kept quiet about his complaints. That's the type of person he is. It's not really something I hold against him because that's just who he is. It was just a personal disappointment for me.
I give him 4.5/5 stars. (That's really high in my book. To get that is an accomplishment.)
Piper - To tell you the truth, I've never really liked her. I've always wanted to. I've tried so freaking hard. I kept on repeating her positive features but I never truly liked her. I didn't hate her. Definitely not. I simply disliked her as a character - a lot. Even in the middle of The Lost Hero, I realized that I really, really disliked her.
So when I read MoA, I had low expectations for this character. Really low. But I really wanted to like her. I wanted her to be a good character.
However, she just made it so hard. She had a lot of flaws. Usually, that makes a character realistic. But with her...*sighs* everyone thinks she's perfect. She's pretty Piper and even though she has a lot of flaws, no one calls them out. No one cares. She's perfect in everyone's eyes.
1. She's selfish.
Example a. She realizes that Venus might be influencing Jason. She acknowledges that their relationship was built on fake memories. But she doesn't care. Page 473.
When you consider the possibility that your relationship with a guy might be fake and influenced by someone else, yet you don't care, well...there's something wrong with you.
Example b. When it's Jason's birthday and he has to make a wish, she hopes that he wishes that the two of them will get out of the quest alive and be together forever.
Um whoa, girl. What about Leo? Everything you've been through with Jason, Leo was mostly a part of it, too. And you call Annabeth one of your best friends yet you don't even think about her? What about Percy? Frank? Hazel? Come on, life is not a fairytale. Think about others.
Example c. "Piper eyes flashed defiantly, like anything Reyna could do, she could do." Page 213.
Come on, this isn't about Reyna. This is about the world. Just put your selfish desires away and think about other people. And Reyna's already lost. Just, please, stop.
Example d. She wants more and more alone time with Jason even though they were together almost all the time.
Example e. She doesn't put enough effort into the charmspeak to stop the Greeks and Romans from fighting because she's so afraid that Jason will go back to the Romans.
2. She's obsessed with Jason, once again.
In TLH, it was obvious that she was obsessed with Jason. She mentioned him over and over.
I own the Lost Hero and I have counted how many times they talk about each other's looks. Well, I started to but then I got tired from counting. But, in every Piper chapter that Jason makes an appearance in, Piper mentions how good-looking Jason is twice. And some of the chapters aren't even that long! Now, as for Jason mentioning Piper's looks, he mentions about 1.5 in each chapter that Piper makes an appearance in. Let's do the math, shall we? Well, there are 56 chapters in the Lost Hero. Now, Jason has two extra chapters at the end. Which means, we divide 54 by the number of POVs, which is 3. We get 18. Multiply eighteen times two and we get thirty-six. However, there are some Piper POV chapters in which Jason does not make an appearance in, therefore not giving her a chance to go on about his looks. Three of them to be exact. 18-3=15. 15*2=30. About thirty times for Piper. Of course, during some of those chapters, Piper doesn't get a chance to look at Jason, but I'm too tired to count all over again. But, roughly, this is how much Piper talks about Jason's looks. Now, for Jason. There are about five chapters in his POV in which Piper does not make an appearance. Twenty chapters in Jason's POV minus five. Fifteen. 15*1.5=22.5 Twenty two point five. That's how many times Jason mentions Piper's looks.
That's a lot. Certainly more than Percy and Annabeth. Of course, one might argue that Percy and Annabeth met in different circumstances but I've read Percy Jackson and the staff of Hermes. Percy talked about Annabeth's looks twice. One in the beginning and one near the middle. That's it. No more. And the entire story had forty pages. The Lost Hero had 557 pages and 56 chapters. That equals to about ten pages per chapter. In each chapter of the Lost Hero, Piper would talk about Jason's looks two times. Which means that, in the Staff of Hermes standards, Piper would talk about Jason's looks eight times in the short forty pages. And Jason would talk about Piper's looks six times in the story, compared to Percy's two times for Annabeth. And Percy and Annabeth were actually dating unlike Piper and Jason who liked each other but weren't actually dating. That's shallow. And Piper is convinced she's different from other Aphrodite girls. Please.
In TLH, at the campfire, when Drew called out that Jason was handsome and smart and the Aphrodite girls giggled, Piper thought, God, what a bunch of losers. How can she think that when she drooled over him during practically the entire book?
Sorry, got really off track there.
But yes, she is, once again obsessed with Jason. All she thinks about is him. That's exactly why most of my problems regarding her also regard her relationship with Jason. Because he's really all she thought about.
4. She's so fake.
Okay, so, somewhere in MoA, Annabeth comments on Piper's hair and how the white feathers braided into it look really nice against her dark hair. And then she goes on to wonder how Piper had time to do that while Annabeth barely had time to brush it.
Okay, so Piper, the apparent "tomboy" has time to freaking braid feathers in her hair? She says that she doesn't care about her looks but yet she does that? She complains about being pretty and that's why her hair is choppy but yet she continually tries to look good?
"[Piper] rushed to get dressed. By the time she got up on deck, the others had already gathered--all hastily dressed except for Coach Hedge, who had pulled the night watch.
Frank's Vancouver Winter Olympics shirt was inside out. Percy wore pajama pants and a bronze breastplate, which was an interesting fashion statement. Hazel's hair was all blown to one side as though she'd walked through a cyclone; and Leo had accidentally set himself on fire. His T-shirt was in charred tatters. His arms were smoking."
(I'll post the rest of this later. Goodreads says it's too long.)
Here's Part 2.
Okay, so Piper, the apparent tomboy out of this group, is the only one who bothers to actually dress herself up? Everyone else rushes upstairs but Piper is the latest one? Come on. I can't believe she still calls herself a tomboy.
Since Piper's review is getting too long, I'll quickly summarize the rest of her problems.
4. She's hypocritical. She stereotypes all pretty people as mean yet she doesn't want to be stereotyped.
5. She's too perfect.
Yes, even after all of these flaws I've listed, Piper is still too perfect. Why?
Because the Mary-Sue is not judged by the reader, but by the characters. So if I notice her flaws, that doesn't make her a realistic character. But if the other characters notice her flaws and call her out on them, that makes her realistic. But no one notices her flaws. She's simply too perfect that way.
Annabeth's pride is called out many times. Thalia's little resistance to power is called out. Percy's pride and rashness is called out. Leo's insecurity and...third-wheel-ness, for lack of a better word, is called out.
Get what I'm saying?
She was more of a filler character. She didn't contribute to the plot. She was simply there, irritating me by gushing over Jason.
I give her a 1.5 out of 5 stars.
But wait! All is not hopeless for this character. If Uncle Rick makes her more realistic and have someone call her out on her flaws, then she'll be a better character. But for her to be a better person, she needs to be called out on her flaws and try to improve her character. Of course, RR has to be careful to not make her too perfect but in the "I have no flaws" way this time. He needs to balance her out.
Jason - When I first read TLH, I thought he was stealing Percy's thunder. And I hated his guts. But now that I'm more logcial, I understand that he was not really that bad of a character. He was bland, though.
In MoA, I'm happy to say that he had more of a personality. He seemed more real. I also liked his budding bromance with Percy.
Here are my problems regarding him.
1. He didn't even apologize to Reyna.
Look, I am not much of a Jason/Reyna shipper. Not anymore. But the fact that he didn't even apologize for leaving her and hurting her feelings...Come on, they were friends. The first thing he directly asks her is if he can show Piper around New Rome.
He was a jerk then.
2. He ignored his friends.
Jason is a Roman. He remembers his friends like Dakota, Gwen, Hazel, Bobby, and Reyna in TLH. But in MoA, he doesn't care about them at all. Come on.
3. He states that he's not going back to Camp Jupiter unless Piper comes with him.
There are so many things wrong with what he said. First of all, he is a Roman. Camp Jupiter is where he belongs. By stating this, he is implying that the Greeks are better than the Romans. Camp Jupiter is where his friends are. It's where his duties are. He's lived there since he was two. That is his home. And he's going to give all that up for a girl he met a couple of months ago? That's a big, big no-no.
That's really all of the problems I have with him. People disliked when he said that Percy needed an ocean to beat him but honestly, I thought that was okay. It was a flaw, was it not? It's his pride acting up. And I was okay with that.
I would rate his character 3/5. He was much, much better than in the Lost Hero but the fact that he was a jerk kind of turned him off. But, once again, he was a filler character. He didn't do much. In HoH, I hope to rate him 4/5 or maybe even more.
Hazel - I think Hazel had more of a personality in MoA, even though she didn't have a POV. She had substance, especially during her interactions with Leo. But we saw so little of her. I didn't have any problems with her.
I rate her 3.7/5 simply because she was not there too much for me to rate her anymore.
Frank - Frank was more of a filler character. He didn't have too much substance to him. I liked his jealousy of Leo, obviously, because he seemed more real. I would give him a 3.3/5.
Coach Hedge - This satyr was rather amusing at times. Other times, he was simply there. He didn't contribute to the plot that much. I didn't have any problems with him, really.
I give him a 3/5 stars.
Reyna - This character...in SoN, I adored her. I gave her 4.6/5 stars which is the highest rating I've given any of Rick's characters. Even though she appeared in 1/10th of SoN, I loved her that much, She just gave me a lasting impression, you know?
In MoA, I was breathless. When I read about her, I felt her pain. I was touched by her. She was mysterious and powerful leader but she was also a teenage girl, you know? She was brilliantly written. One of the best characters Rick's ever created. Possibly the best.
She was a great leader. She was able to put her emotions side and think about the greater good. She was reasonable, passive, stoic, and just a good person.
Problems I have with her:
There's nothing, really. Despite the fact that she's getting nothing while Perfect Piper is getting everything, there's really nothing else that I have to complain about this character.
She's bossy because she's a Roman leader. She's uptight because she's been through so much and is, once again, Roman.
The only reason I can think for someone to dislike her was because she's "getting in the way of Jason/Piper and/or Percy/Annabeth." That's the reason most people dislike her. And that's completely illogical.
I give her...*drumroll* 4.8/5 stars. That's the highest rating I've ever given any of Rick Riordan's characters.
I'm hoping that she has a POV in the next book. And she needs to get a happy ending. My OTP is Reyna/Happiness, got that?
Octavian - He has great potential. But he wasn't really an obstacle in MoA. But in HoH, he better have a bigger role. Because I love him. He's so real. He genuinely seems to care about Camp Jupiter. I am currently fangirling because I am imagining the possibilities.
I give him a 3.5/5 simply because he didn't play a big role.
Arachne - I enjoyed her character. She seemed like the real threat in MoA. However, I feel like Annabeth trapped her too easily. But I enjoyed how her flaws were brought to light and Annabeth used her brain to beat her.
4/5 stars for her.
Twin Giants - They didn't seem like they were that interesting. They were simply there.
3/5 stars.
I believe I've reviewed every character of great prominence in MoA.
Next up is the plot.
Plot: The plot was enjoyable. It tied together quite nicely. Unfortunately, because most of the characters were a little bland, the plot had nothing to bring it to life.
Here are some of my problems with it:
1. The fight scene between Jason and Percy seemed much too rushed.
It was as if Rick wrote it just so it would match the cover. There wasn't any real substance behind it.
2. It, at times, seemed like it was dragging on and on. It didn't grasp my attention like I hoped it would. In fact, at one time, I willingly put the book down for a full day and didn't bother reading it. Most of that happened in Piper's and sometimes Percy's chapters.
3. The scene between Arachne and Annabeth wasn't as juicy as I had hoped. Annabeth solved the problem much too quickly.
4. The eidolon problem was resolved rather quickly and by Piper, no less. It had the potential to become much more complicated but I was rather disappointed when Piper used her charmspeak to make them go away. Granted, they came back eventually but it was a little lacking.
All in all, I give the plot 3.5/5.
Relationships -
Percy/Annabeth - There was an abundance of Percabeth but it was written well so I couldn't bring myself to dislike it. I was a little irritated though. But I enjoyed the relationship a lot.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Piper - I know that most of you already know how I feel about this relationship. I dislike a lot. And since Piper only talks about Jason during her POV, I started disliking this relationship more and more. Please, please, end this relationship. At least end the shallowness. Do something.
1.5/5 stars.
Frank/Hazel - This was written well. It wasn't as good as Percabeth but it was nice nonetheless.
3.7/5 stars.
Leo/Hazel - This was written so well...I just loved it so much. I love how Leo gradually had feelings for Hazel.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Reyna - This relationship was written horribly, as Jason didn't even bother apologizing to Reyna. Not to mention my anger at Piper getting everything she wants and Reyna getting nothing.
1/5 stars.
Percy/Reyna - This love triangle was so unnecessary. I had such a wonderful theory that Reyna only implied that she liked Percy because she needed him to be praetor to save the camp but now...*sigh* Okay, RR, TOO MANY LOVE TRIANGLES. Please, fix this.
1/5 stars.
Annabeth/Reyna - This friendship was written rather well. I enjoyed it a lot. I loved their grudging respect. I can see the possibility of them becoming close friends.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Percy - This bromance was written well. I could sense undertones of jealousy and am curious to see how their relationship will progress.
3.7/4 stars.
Annabeth/Piper - This friendship was really annoying. So now we have Insta!Friends along with Insta!Love? It was as if RR was trying to get us to like Piper by having Annabeth like Piper. This relationship sprung out of nowhere.
1.2/5 stars.
Piper/Leo - I loved the friendship between these two. It seems as if Leo's less insecure when he's with Piper and Piper's less obsessive and more herself when she's with Leo. Brilliant friendship these two have.
4/5 stars.
Bias
It was obvious that RR was favoring the Romans over the Greeks.
1. Both Jason and Percy have Greek girlfriends.
2. Jason says he won't go back to Camp Jupiter without Piper.
3. The Romans are shown to be cruel.
4. The only two people who are shown to care a lot for Camp Jupiter is Reyna, who gets nothing, and Octavian, who's portrayed as a selfish and greedy teddy-bear killer.
5. Four out of the seven in the prophecy are Greeks.
6. Camp Half-Blood's leader, Percy, is shown to be more powerful than Camp Jupiter' leader, Jason. Like when both Nico and Hazel state that Percy is probably the most powerful demigod they've both met.
Just stop. Enough with glorifying Percy. He's starting to become a Gary-Stu. Give Jason a fair shot. Stop shoving the Romans and Jason under a bus.
I hope Uncle Rick gives the Romans a chance to shine in HoH. But then again, it says House of HADES. Which means that two of the titles have to do with Greek gods/goddesses and only one has to do with a Roman god/goddess. And even then, Neptune is really referring to Poseidon. :(
I actually prefer the Romans more than the Greeks. I don't know why. But I'm praying that all of the POVs in the next book are Romans.
I'm hoping for Jason, Frank, Hazel, and Reyna. Or maybe Octavian. No Greeks. I don't even want Percy. LET THE ROMANS GET THEIR TURN TO SHINE.
Gods, that took a long time to finish. So this is my review of MoA. Critical? Yes. Untrue? No.
For the entire book, I give it a 3/5 stars.
I hope HoH is better. I hope that I can rate it a four out of five.
As my fingers hurt from typing and I have a test to take, I better get going.
KUDOS TO YOU IF YOU READ ALL OF THIS!
Okay, so Piper, the apparent tomboy out of this group, is the only one who bothers to actually dress herself up? Everyone else rushes upstairs but Piper is the latest one? Come on. I can't believe she still calls herself a tomboy.
Since Piper's review is getting too long, I'll quickly summarize the rest of her problems.
4. She's hypocritical. She stereotypes all pretty people as mean yet she doesn't want to be stereotyped.
5. She's too perfect.
Yes, even after all of these flaws I've listed, Piper is still too perfect. Why?
Because the Mary-Sue is not judged by the reader, but by the characters. So if I notice her flaws, that doesn't make her a realistic character. But if the other characters notice her flaws and call her out on them, that makes her realistic. But no one notices her flaws. She's simply too perfect that way.
Annabeth's pride is called out many times. Thalia's little resistance to power is called out. Percy's pride and rashness is called out. Leo's insecurity and...third-wheel-ness, for lack of a better word, is called out.
Get what I'm saying?
She was more of a filler character. She didn't contribute to the plot. She was simply there, irritating me by gushing over Jason.
I give her a 1.5 out of 5 stars.
But wait! All is not hopeless for this character. If Uncle Rick makes her more realistic and have someone call her out on her flaws, then she'll be a better character. But for her to be a better person, she needs to be called out on her flaws and try to improve her character. Of course, RR has to be careful to not make her too perfect but in the "I have no flaws" way this time. He needs to balance her out.
Jason - When I first read TLH, I thought he was stealing Percy's thunder. And I hated his guts. But now that I'm more logcial, I understand that he was not really that bad of a character. He was bland, though.
In MoA, I'm happy to say that he had more of a personality. He seemed more real. I also liked his budding bromance with Percy.
Here are my problems regarding him.
1. He didn't even apologize to Reyna.
Look, I am not much of a Jason/Reyna shipper. Not anymore. But the fact that he didn't even apologize for leaving her and hurting her feelings...Come on, they were friends. The first thing he directly asks her is if he can show Piper around New Rome.
He was a jerk then.
2. He ignored his friends.
Jason is a Roman. He remembers his friends like Dakota, Gwen, Hazel, Bobby, and Reyna in TLH. But in MoA, he doesn't care about them at all. Come on.
3. He states that he's not going back to Camp Jupiter unless Piper comes with him.
There are so many things wrong with what he said. First of all, he is a Roman. Camp Jupiter is where he belongs. By stating this, he is implying that the Greeks are better than the Romans. Camp Jupiter is where his friends are. It's where his duties are. He's lived there since he was two. That is his home. And he's going to give all that up for a girl he met a couple of months ago? That's a big, big no-no.
That's really all of the problems I have with him. People disliked when he said that Percy needed an ocean to beat him but honestly, I thought that was okay. It was a flaw, was it not? It's his pride acting up. And I was okay with that.
I would rate his character 3/5. He was much, much better than in the Lost Hero but the fact that he was a jerk kind of turned him off. But, once again, he was a filler character. He didn't do much. In HoH, I hope to rate him 4/5 or maybe even more.
Hazel - I think Hazel had more of a personality in MoA, even though she didn't have a POV. She had substance, especially during her interactions with Leo. But we saw so little of her. I didn't have any problems with her.
I rate her 3.7/5 simply because she was not there too much for me to rate her anymore.
Frank - Frank was more of a filler character. He didn't have too much substance to him. I liked his jealousy of Leo, obviously, because he seemed more real. I would give him a 3.3/5.
Coach Hedge - This satyr was rather amusing at times. Other times, he was simply there. He didn't contribute to the plot that much. I didn't have any problems with him, really.
I give him a 3/5 stars.
Reyna - This character...in SoN, I adored her. I gave her 4.6/5 stars which is the highest rating I've given any of Rick's characters. Even though she appeared in 1/10th of SoN, I loved her that much, She just gave me a lasting impression, you know?
In MoA, I was breathless. When I read about her, I felt her pain. I was touched by her. She was mysterious and powerful leader but she was also a teenage girl, you know? She was brilliantly written. One of the best characters Rick's ever created. Possibly the best.
She was a great leader. She was able to put her emotions side and think about the greater good. She was reasonable, passive, stoic, and just a good person.
Problems I have with her:
There's nothing, really. Despite the fact that she's getting nothing while Perfect Piper is getting everything, there's really nothing else that I have to complain about this character.
She's bossy because she's a Roman leader. She's uptight because she's been through so much and is, once again, Roman.
The only reason I can think for someone to dislike her was because she's "getting in the way of Jason/Piper and/or Percy/Annabeth." That's the reason most people dislike her. And that's completely illogical.
I give her...*drumroll* 4.8/5 stars. That's the highest rating I've ever given any of Rick Riordan's characters.
I'm hoping that she has a POV in the next book. And she needs to get a happy ending. My OTP is Reyna/Happiness, got that?
Octavian - He has great potential. But he wasn't really an obstacle in MoA. But in HoH, he better have a bigger role. Because I love him. He's so real. He genuinely seems to care about Camp Jupiter. I am currently fangirling because I am imagining the possibilities.
I give him a 3.5/5 simply because he didn't play a big role.
Arachne - I enjoyed her character. She seemed like the real threat in MoA. However, I feel like Annabeth trapped her too easily. But I enjoyed how her flaws were brought to light and Annabeth used her brain to beat her.
4/5 stars for her.
Twin Giants - They didn't seem like they were that interesting. They were simply there.
3/5 stars.
I believe I've reviewed every character of great prominence in MoA.
Next up is the plot.
Plot: The plot was enjoyable. It tied together quite nicely. Unfortunately, because most of the characters were a little bland, the plot had nothing to bring it to life.
Here are some of my problems with it:
1. The fight scene between Jason and Percy seemed much too rushed.
It was as if Rick wrote it just so it would match the cover. There wasn't any real substance behind it.
2. It, at times, seemed like it was dragging on and on. It didn't grasp my attention like I hoped it would. In fact, at one time, I willingly put the book down for a full day and didn't bother reading it. Most of that happened in Piper's and sometimes Percy's chapters.
3. The scene between Arachne and Annabeth wasn't as juicy as I had hoped. Annabeth solved the problem much too quickly.
4. The eidolon problem was resolved rather quickly and by Piper, no less. It had the potential to become much more complicated but I was rather disappointed when Piper used her charmspeak to make them go away. Granted, they came back eventually but it was a little lacking.
All in all, I give the plot 3.5/5.
Relationships -
Percy/Annabeth - There was an abundance of Percabeth but it was written well so I couldn't bring myself to dislike it. I was a little irritated though. But I enjoyed the relationship a lot.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Piper - I know that most of you already know how I feel about this relationship. I dislike a lot. And since Piper only talks about Jason during her POV, I started disliking this relationship more and more. Please, please, end this relationship. At least end the shallowness. Do something.
1.5/5 stars.
Frank/Hazel - This was written well. It wasn't as good as Percabeth but it was nice nonetheless.
3.7/5 stars.
Leo/Hazel - This was written so well...I just loved it so much. I love how Leo gradually had feelings for Hazel.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Reyna - This relationship was written horribly, as Jason didn't even bother apologizing to Reyna. Not to mention my anger at Piper getting everything she wants and Reyna getting nothing.
1/5 stars.
Percy/Reyna - This love triangle was so unnecessary. I had such a wonderful theory that Reyna only implied that she liked Percy because she needed him to be praetor to save the camp but now...*sigh* Okay, RR, TOO MANY LOVE TRIANGLES. Please, fix this.
1/5 stars.
Annabeth/Reyna - This friendship was written rather well. I enjoyed it a lot. I loved their grudging respect. I can see the possibility of them becoming close friends.
4/5 stars.
Jason/Percy - This bromance was written well. I could sense undertones of jealousy and am curious to see how their relationship will progress.
3.7/4 stars.
Annabeth/Piper - This friendship was really annoying. So now we have Insta!Friends along with Insta!Love? It was as if RR was trying to get us to like Piper by having Annabeth like Piper. This relationship sprung out of nowhere.
1.2/5 stars.
Piper/Leo - I loved the friendship between these two. It seems as if Leo's less insecure when he's with Piper and Piper's less obsessive and more herself when she's with Leo. Brilliant friendship these two have.
4/5 stars.
Bias
It was obvious that RR was favoring the Romans over the Greeks.
1. Both Jason and Percy have Greek girlfriends.
2. Jason says he won't go back to Camp Jupiter without Piper.
3. The Romans are shown to be cruel.
4. The only two people who are shown to care a lot for Camp Jupiter is Reyna, who gets nothing, and Octavian, who's portrayed as a selfish and greedy teddy-bear killer.
5. Four out of the seven in the prophecy are Greeks.
6. Camp Half-Blood's leader, Percy, is shown to be more powerful than Camp Jupiter' leader, Jason. Like when both Nico and Hazel state that Percy is probably the most powerful demigod they've both met.
Just stop. Enough with glorifying Percy. He's starting to become a Gary-Stu. Give Jason a fair shot. Stop shoving the Romans and Jason under a bus.
I hope Uncle Rick gives the Romans a chance to shine in HoH. But then again, it says House of HADES. Which means that two of the titles have to do with Greek gods/goddesses and only one has to do with a Roman god/goddess. And even then, Neptune is really referring to Poseidon. :(
I actually prefer the Romans more than the Greeks. I don't know why. But I'm praying that all of the POVs in the next book are Romans.
I'm hoping for Jason, Frank, Hazel, and Reyna. Or maybe Octavian. No Greeks. I don't even want Percy. LET THE ROMANS GET THEIR TURN TO SHINE.
Gods, that took a long time to finish. So this is my review of MoA. Critical? Yes. Untrue? No.
For the entire book, I give it a 3/5 stars.
I hope HoH is better. I hope that I can rate it a four out of five.
As my fingers hurt from typing and I have a test to take, I better get going.
KUDOS TO YOU IF YOU READ ALL OF THIS!
Kudos?
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Um... wow. I don't really know how to respond to that? I'm just a little surprised....
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The only curse word I used was "freaking." And I doubt that even counts.
The only curse word I used was "freaking." And I doubt that even counts.
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Hey... Reneered. Do you have any positives like I LOVELOVELOVELOVE THIS PART!!! in the book???
Savannah wrote: "Hey... Reneered. Do you have any positives like I LOVELOVELOVELOVE THIS PART!!! in the book???"
Yeah, I did. The way Annabeth trapped Arachne was good. And there was this one Percabeth moment I liked. I also liked the Leo/Hazel moments.
...I'm not a very optimistic person. I'm a realist. No more, no less.
Yeah, I did. The way Annabeth trapped Arachne was good. And there was this one Percabeth moment I liked. I also liked the Leo/Hazel moments.
...I'm not a very optimistic person. I'm a realist. No more, no less.
This is a line from MoA that broke my heart. Fuck Rick Riordan.
Reyna said bitterly. "The spear is thrown. Our people are at war."
"Not if I succeed ," Annabeth said.
Reyna's expression looked the same as it had at Camp Jupiter when she realized Jason had found another girl. The praetor was too alone, too bitter and betrayed to believe anything could go right for her ever again.
SCREW RICK RIORDAN. SCREW Piper. SCREW Jason. Screw them all. Reyna...gods, Reyna...best character in the entire series.
For whoever replied to me and countered what I said about how they don't see each other's flaws. Um, what about Percy seeing Annabeth's flaws? What about Annabeth seeing Percy's flaws? In TlT, they see each other's flaws.
Visit the Piper Mclean is a Terrible Character forum on fanfiction.net. In the later parts of the conversation on "I Hate Piper" forum thread, we discuss about how MoA is crap.
It is. I've read it. It's crap.
My friend got her copy early. (Shipping mistake.)
I hate Rick Riordan.
Piper says that she suspects Venus might be influencing Jason and she doesn't care. (She thinks that, anyways.)
Jason completely ignores Reyna. He turns his back on the Romans for Piper. Leo...Leo was pretty awesome. Him turning evil (for a bit, anyways) was a twist.