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Once Upon A Time
Christine, It was the scandal that EQ released about Emma. She's such a bitch, she didn't care that it would hurt Henry to know that bit of info.Kelley, I don't think Rumple is the person she loves. She might be his wife who ran away but that implies a lack of love. I wonder who it could be, maybe that doctor who went out with Mary Margaret once.
Jackie wrote: "It was the scandal that EQ released about Emma"Ooo...that really burned me that she thought it didn't matter when or how Henry found that out. Yes, at some point he should know but certainly not at that young of an age and under those circumstances.
on Henry's father:Once Upon a Time | This much we know about young Henry: His birth mom, Emma, is significant because she has the power to undo the Evil Queen’s curse. And Henry himself is significant because he apparently offers Regina a “second chance” of sorts, seeing as he’s named after the father she sacrificed to exact “the curse to end all curses.” But what about Henry’s birth dad? Who is he, will we ever meet him, and how might he fit into the picture? Or is that perhaps a big Season 1 finale bombshell? “That might be a Season 6 finale!” Jennifer Morrison responded with a laugh when I popped the paternity question. “I’ve heard rumblings of ideas about Henry’s father and how he fits into all of this,” she went on to share, “but that is something that is definitely going to take a long time to be revealed.”
That 'second chance' is a bit unbalanced: kill daddy, name a kid after him, whoop-dee-do.
Holli wrote: "on Henry's father:Once Upon a Time | This much we know about young Henry: His birth mom, Emma, is significant because she has the power to undo the Evil Queen’s curse. And Henry himself is sign..."
"a long time to be revealed", that makes me wonder more. I second Jackie's whoop-dee-do!
Christine wrote: that makes me wonder moreNot me; it tells me the writers have no idea either. lol
Jackie wrote: "Jackie (thelastwolf) | 2765 comments That 'second chance' is a bit unbalanced: kill daddy, name a kid after him, whoop-dee-do. "LOL!! I agree
My daughter just figured out who Mr Glass is (the man who ran against Emma). Have you?
You mean the fact that he is supposed to be the mirror?
Yes, he's the Queen's mirror! I loved that when I figured that out. I thought "how sincerely perfect"
okay I'm getting more and more curious about who the "stranger" is! The fact he has Henry's book hmm. I am dissapointed that Emma doesn't see the trap laid before her, cuz I did from the begining of the episode!
It was so obvious that Sidney still worked for Regina, even before seeing their backstory. Emma is too emotionally involved with Henry, and by extention, Regina. It is disappointing because I still expect her to bring her savvy street smarts to the table. It's all she's got when fighting against Regina. And now I don't feel so sorry for EQ's father, what she did to him. He helped set up the Genie so he was no angel either. Probably deserved what he got.
I think the stranger is the original author of Henry's book. Which I believe was Christine's idea first.
That was interesting to see what happened with Snow's father and the genie. He did seem mean to EQ by ignoring her the way he did. If the stranger is the original author of Henry's book, does that mean he can change the ending of the story and either save everyone or doom them?
I think the stranger-author is just a recorder of events. He doesn't dictate the story; he simply tells it. Emma coming to Storybrook is what's changing things and only she can save them, as per the original book.
Jackie said: "..Emma is too emotionally involved with Henry, and by extention, Regina. It is disappointing because I still expect her to bring her savvy street smarts to the table. It's all she's got when fighting against Regina." I agree. Very disappointed by Emma.
Jackie also said: "I think the stranger is the original author of Henry's book. Which I believe was Christine's idea first."
Very interesting! But what does that mean for him? His back story? He came from outside Storybrook so either when their world changed he was transported elsewhere OR can leave Storybrook.
I have no idea about the stranger in terms of coming from outside, has he been to Storybrook before, can he leave? But I can't wait to find out!
The good news is we will find out and the story is always good. I just looked at my DVR for the rest of the week. I see there isn't an episode on Sunday. Boo hoo
Academy Award nominee Barbara Hershey has landed a mother of a role on ABC’s Once Upon a Time, as the very woman who brought the Evil Queen into this world — or, to be more precise, into the fairytale world, TVLine has learned.Hershey, who is also an Emmy and Golden Globe winner for her role in the 1990 TV-movie A Killing in a Small Town, will first appear as the queen’s mum, Cora, later this season, with the option of also having a short arc in Season 2 (if/when the fantastical drama conjures up a renewal this spring).
Hershey’s Oscar nod came for her supporting role in 1996′s The Portrait of a Lady. Much more recently, she has appeared on the big screen in Black Swan (where she played Natalie Portman’s mother) and last spring’s horror-thriller Insidious. Her long film resume also includes The Last Temptation of Christ (as Mary Magdalene), Hannah and Her Sisters and Beaches, to name but a few.
Great Rumplestilskin ep, again. What an interesting character!I'm confused about David and MM. I was under the impression he was going to leave his wife. Apparently not. What a jerk. MM's doing the right thing in splitting up with him.
I didn't take it as two cards means two lovers, me and my husband always get each other two cards for every occasion, one funny, one sentimental. Anyone else do that?
I was hoping that that was the situation, getting the two cards for the one Valentine but obviously it wasn't. That was just plain mean, the mix-up and I am not happy with David now. Poor MM. And yes, I have bought two cards for my valentine, one funny and one sentimental. I am a lot more sympathetic to Mr. Gold/Rumplestilskin. This show continues to surprise me. I was a little disappointed in the casting of Belle. I am not a big fan of that actress. I didn't like her in Lost either.
I think that while it's true Rumple thinks he's unlovable, he wouldn't give up his power for love anyway. Yeah, not a fan of David anymore, he's stringing both the women along and that's not right. Make a choice and stick with it.
What I don't understand is David's feelings for Kathryn. She was mean to him in the fairy tale world and we haven't seen much in the Storybrooke world either. I guess we will get to that. The writers do reveal things eventually. True about Rumple's power v. love dilemma but it is because of something the EQ is holding over him. He can't be powerless. That's my opinion anyway.
Frankly if I saw a guy buying to Vcards I would assume one was for his mom or daughter....I know I am always buying a stack, one for the hubby, one for the kids, one for the kids to send to each set of grandparents.......
I don't understand David's feeling for Kathryn either. Before his coma, he was leaving her, so what changed? They're obviously intimate because she thought she was pregnant. Why the change, especially since he's in love with MM?
Maybe the mayor is doing something to confuse David? Confuse Kathryn? I think we will get some answers if the previews to next week are any indication.
I really like this show, although I only watched the first episode because I wanted to see what Jennifer Morrison was doing since House. I'm anxious to see Barbara Hershey. Any idea when she'll make her first appearance? Now we need Bette Midler to join the cast as Cinderella's fairy godmother!
Once Upon a Time | Dipping into the reader mailbag, Macario wonders, “Do you know what the plan is (or was) for David Anders’ character on Once Upon a Time?” Well, what I know is that Dr. Whale will resurface in Episode 15 (approximately mid-March), when the show turns its focus to Little Red Riding Hood and, presumably, shiny li’l Ruby as well. But if you’re also wondering if Mary Margaret might return to “playing doctor” if she and David can’t get their predestined act together, rest assured — that “fling” has flung. As a source tells the Inside Line, “The thing about Dr. Whale is he can’t be tied down.” Hmm, is that a Pinocchio reference?
I was wondering when we'd get to see LRRH/Ruby's story.
Once Upon a Time | This just in! Sebastian Stan’s heretofore top-secret role on ABC’s Once Upon a Time has been revealed. The onetime Gossip Girl bad boy will be playing the Mad Hatter in Episode 17, set to air this spring. “We find out how the Mad Hatter became mad,” says EP Eddie Kitsis of the trip to Wonderland, which also finds The Who’s Roger Daltrey voicing the hookah-smoking caterpillar. “Sebastian is so good in this role. He’s brilliant,” Kitsis adds. “We’re really excited.”
ABC’s Once Upon a Time this Sunday will weave a magical tale about love that might leave you… grumpy?The episode, which features a guest-starring turn by Angel/Dollhouse alumna Amy Acker as a fairy named Nova, reveals the backstory of Snow White’s crankiest dwarf pal. As the object of Grumpy’s affection, “[Nova] is going to help tell the story of how Grumpy became Grumpy,” says executive producer Eddie Kitsis, who describes the hour as “in the vein of a Pixar [movie].”
As for Emilie de Ravin’s encore as Belle, “She’s got a nice little scene” with Grumpy, continues the EP. “She’s sitting there [alive], with the person who loves her [Rumpelstiltskin] not realizing it, and he would be someone I would not want to piss off.”
Alas, there’s likely to be more heartache ahead for the beast’s beauty, who will be back “probably more towards the end of the season,” reveals Kitsis.
Here’s what Kitsis and fellow showrunner Adam Horowitz had to say about Once‘s other big mysteries, during a recent Q&A:
WHO IS THE STRANGER? AND WHAT HE’S DOING WITH THE BOOK? | Not surprisingly, the answers to these two questions are deeply interconnected. When the consequences of August’s tampering with the book (and him getting it back to Henry) are revealed in a later episode, “it will inform who [he] is,” teases Kitsis. “Those pages are his story, you’d say.” Adds Horowitz: “What we saw August doing in that episode … is the first step in peeling back the onion on who this guy is and what his agenda in Storybrooke is. August’s goal is a very specific goal.” But if you think the handsome mystery man is the author of said book, you might want to guess again. “Who wrote it… will probably be something more for Season 2,” reveals Kitsis.
WILL MARY MARGARET AND DAVID EVER GET TOGETHER? | The Evil Queen’s curse that is keeping them apart, one way or another, is no easy-to-break spell, and as such it will “definitely test them,” says Kitsis. And Kathryn’s vanishing, an arc that will run through several episodes, will only add complications. Horowitz, however, promises that the writers are “building to something this season with [Mary and David] that we’re excited to share with you.”
WHO’S COMING BACK? | All you Sheriff Graham lovers, brace yourselves: A possible encore by Jamie Dornan is up in the air. The producers would absolutely like to have the actor back, but “it is a scheduling thing that is beyond our control,” Kitsis explains. “Right now, we are trying to move Heaven and Earth to hopefully make it happen.” One return TVLine previously scooped is David Anders as Dr. Whale, on March 11. However, “the reveal of who he is [in fairytale land] will not be this season.”
WHO IS HENRY’S FATHER? | That’s another question that won’t be answered until “further down the line” even though the EPs know who he is and “have a very specific plan for that character.” Could he be someone we’ve already seen on the show? While they wouldn’t confirm or deny the speculation, Horowitz did offer this: “If we do it right, it’s an a-ha moment.”
WHAT IS THE EVIL QUEEN’S BEEF WITH SNOW? | “She just owes her money,” jokes Kitsis. But in all seriousness, keep an eye out for Episode 18, to air in April, because that’s when “you’ll find out why the Evil Queen hates Snow White so much.”
Amy Acker, yay. Can't wait to see her.The Stranger is not the author, could he be the author's son? “Those pages are his story" What does that mean?
Kathryn, pfffft, who cares?
Jamie Dornan, oh yeah, bring that boy back! I'm so disappointed that EQ killed him.
I'm really interested in the reason for EQ's hatred of SW. It's gonna be a long month.
Thank you, Holli!
Its Supernatural Light. I had to drop Supernatural this season because it was getting too heavy and I just didn't want anything like that right now. Will catch it on DVD later. My hubby is digging Grimm though so its a rare thing we watch together.
"Supernatural Light".......that is the perfect description of Grimm.
He loves her. He loves her not.Once Upon a Time has pulled fans of star-crossed lovers Prince Charming (Josh Dallas) and Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin) back and forth all season long, as the couple would reunite, only to break up again. Does the show actually have a plan for the iconic couple? We chatted with Once bosses Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis to find out. (And they answered a bunch of other burning questions too!)
You keep bringing Mary and David — aka Snow White and Prince Charming — together only to have them break up again. Do you actually have a bigger plan for them?
Kitsis: The whole idea of the show is that Storybrooke is cursed. Their love is so strong it keeps pulling them together no matter how hard we try to keep them apart. Of course, the curse has to keep them apart. I love that the audience is mad that David cheated, but he's married to Snow White [Laughs]. In Storybrooke, he has all this guilt of cheating on Kathryn (Anastasia Griffith), but the truth is, that's the curse.
Horowitz: Is he cheating on Snow White by being with Kathryn? To us, there's a level of complexity we're trying to build with these relationships and making nothing easy for our characters.
The last we saw of Snow White in the fairytale world, she had erased her own memories. When will you pick up that story again?
Kitsis: [This Sunday's episode] takes place right after the Huntsman released her, so before she's attained all her banditry skills. In fact, there's a scene you'll see, where Red (Meghan Ory) teaches her how to track. Episode 16 [picks] up directly after the episode where she drank the poison.
What can you tell us about Kathryn's disappearance?
Horowitz: It's a mystery and it is one that is resolved this season.
Kitsis: That's going to take us into the end run of the season.
Horowitz: David and Mary Margaret are really fighting a curse to be together and this is another element of that.
Kitsis: This will definitely test them... [Also], Kathryn's disappearance is going to take up a lot of Emma's (Jennifer Morrison) time and test her emotionally.
Will other characters start to wake up?
Kitsis: I would say I'd be pissed if something didn't happen like that. It is a difficult thing. The curse is a strong curse. It can't just be easy. I think we're going to explore those questions definitely going forward.
In Sunday's episode, we'll see August (Eion Bailey) spark something within Red/Ruby. Is that his goal in Storybrooke?
Kitsis: It's like what Henry (Jared Gilmore) said in Episode 2, "It's magic, people don't remember." So when you say to Ruby, "How long have you worked at Granny's?" She's like, "Forever," because she has no conception of time. Once [August] puts it in her head, "Well, why do you?" She's like, "Why do I?"
Horowitz: It's a snowball effect, which is to say that [when] Emma arrived in the pilot, the clock started ticking and things started to change. One of the changes is August arriving. There's a lot of things that have changed in Storybrooke, and they've mushroomed out to things like Ruby at the start of [Sunday's episode] and those affects will continue.
Will we finally learn what horrible thing Snow did to the Evil Queen (Lana Parrilla) by the end of the season?
Horowitz: Oh yeah.
Kitsis: That is its own episode, and that will be Episode 18. That is the episode where you'll find out why the Evil Queen hates Snow White so much.
Might Regina ever change her mind about the curse?
Horowitz: I suppose anything is possible.
Kitsis: She enacted it in such an emotional place that she wasn't thinking clearly. She came here and probably got a little bored. Now that Emma is here, it's reawakened her passion of revenge and anger. She's protecting her son. I don't think she fully understands what she did. I don't think she understands the repercussions and she's beginning to lose sight of even why she did it.
Is there a way to undo the curse?
Horowitz: Every curse can be broken.
Kitsis: It's just how.
Horowitz: And yes, that is something that will be explored.
What can you tell us about Regina's mother, played by Barbara Hershey?
Kitsis: Evil is not born, it's made. Her mother has a specific viewpoint about the world.
Horowitz: Hopefully, you'll get a great insight into Regina and why she is the way she is.
Now that we've seen a gentler Rumplestiltskin (Robert Carlyle), is he maybe not as bad as we think?
Kitsis: He's a complicated man. It depends where you line up with his interests. He has an agenda and it's whether you're in the way of that agenda or not. A lot of these characters have gray areas. There is some humanity in him.
Horowitz: There's an exploration [in Episode 19] of more about him and his son and what happened there that may hopefully shed a little more light.
What can you tease about Belle's (Emilie de Ravin) return?
Kitsis: She's got a nice little scene in Episode 14. She's sitting up there with the person who loves her [and] not realizing that. That would be someone I would not want to piss off. She's going to be back more toward the end of the season.
Was having Belle end up in the psych ward a nod to crazy squirrel baby Claire of Lost?
Horowitz: I wouldn't say so much a nod as we felt really confident Emilie could pull it off.
Kitsis: We had the idea early in the season to have Belle in the insane asylum, and then when we were talking about who would be the perfect Belle, because... Belle is a strong character, and so we're like, "Oh, it's Emilie." Then we actually debated changing the ending because of the squirrel baby, and then we thought, "No, let's surge. Squirrel baby again!"
Will we meet anymore villains?
Horowitz: In [Sunday's episode], we'll learn who the Big Bad Wolf is. We want to leave the door open for exploring more and more classic villains as we go forward. But that's one example of something coming up.
What can you tell us about Season 2?
Kitsis: We think we have some really unexpected and surprising characters that we would like to explore next year that I don't even think people are thinking about.
Did I miss an episode or something?? I don't remember Belle in a psych ward??
Never mind, I just read a recap... I remember now... I must have been falling asleepat the end of that one! LOL
It's from LOST and Emilie de Ravin's character on there
I watched Lost, I don't remember anyone calling her crazy squirrel baby. I thought this last ep kinda sucked.
I thought so too. The skirt part was atrocious. The flower straps weren't too bad and could have been pretty if the rest of the dress was designed better.
At first I thought that she was going to be a ocean fairy or something which would be why they made the bottom look like a jellyfish.you were right though this episode was rather blah.
Jackie, they didn't call her that. When Claire went crazy on LOST towards the end she had a dead squirrel that she wrapped up and kept with her in a bassinet saying it was her baby
Holli, OK, I don't remember a dead squirrel, but that does sound crazy, lol. I knew she went crazy by the way she was acting, I just didn't get the squirrel reference. TY
I liked this last episode. Sure the fairy costumes were kind of lame in comparison to others on the show but the story was sweet. You had to feel sympathy for Dreamy/Grumpy. I thought it was funny that dwarves are hatched from eggs and because of that they cannot love, get married or have babies. Except for Dreamy, of course, we know why he is different, the all powerful fairy dust! I just liked how they twisted the lore just a tinch to make it interesting.
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I like all the thoughts people have about the possiblility of EQ and Rumple being involved before. That article did say that her lover is someone we've already met.