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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?

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Isabella (All Da Ladies Luv Leo) Thomas (view spoiler) I like Reyna but I feel like she's most suited for GOOD Luke. Even though he dies. Go Lukyna! Or is it Reyuke?


GreatScottland Echizen_kirino wrote: "so... i'm not realistic? just because i like JasPer i become unrealistic...
great!"


I dislike Jasper, but because you like it doesn't mean I'll dislike you


message 1053: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah Piper! End of.


message 1054: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Well, Piper and Jason are already dating. And... well... Jason even said that he and Reyna weren't really dating.


Yazid (Ciel) Leah wrote: "Well, Piper and Jason are already dating. And... well... Jason even said that he and Reyna weren't really dating."

OK... that would be Piper hands down. End of discussion lol


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Leah I'm not saying that I don't respect Jeyna, but Jasper makes so much more sense if you're going by the actual book, not opinions.


GreatScottland Leah wrote: "I'm not saying that I don't respect Jeyna, but Jasper makes so much more sense if you're going by the actual book, not opinions."

Maybe, but it is realy unfair to Reyna, and not very reasonable.


Yazid (Ciel) GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "I'm not saying that I don't respect Jeyna, but Jasper makes so much more sense if you're going by the actual book, not opinions."

Maybe, but it is realy unfair to Reyna, and not very ..."


I'm sorry, but how can it be unfair? Jason lost his memory but over time, he would retrieves it slowly. He would recognize Reyna and acknowledge their time together and that is when we should discuss either he picks Piper or Reyna.


message 1059: by Echizen_kirino (last edited Oct 28, 2012 07:36PM) (new)

Echizen_kirino hmm?
so Jason still had memory loss?
I thought he had most of them... even about Reyna... Considering he remembered his quest with her... and he still chose Piper


Yazid (Ciel) I don't know, I only read until SoN.


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Barbara rawr the dinosaur wrote: "@ naomi

abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...

we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?

also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appea..."


I don't think Reyna HAD to flirt with Percy to get him to stay and help with the giant. She could have just asked.


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Barbara I think Jason should stay with Piper. I think they balance each other out nicely.


GreatScottland Yazid wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "I'm not saying that I don't respect Jeyna, but Jasper makes so much more sense if you're going by the actual book, not opinions."

Maybe, but it is realy unfair ..."


It could be fair, I suppose(by your way), but the way RR did it in MoA, you just don't treat them like they haven't had to rule alone for eight months all alone.


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Valerie Provence Naomi wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "pretty obvious jason choose piper? with aphrodite most likely interfering and without jason's pov?"


I really hope this i..."

I totally agree with that


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Piper, even though I don't like her.


message 1066: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Reyna and Jason were never even dating! This makes no sense.


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Jazzie Leah wrote: "Reyna and Jason were never even dating! This makes no sense."

that is very true


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Alexis Reyna. It seems that more people ship Jeyna then Jasper. Piper's relationship was just made by the mist.


GreatScottland Smurf wrote: "Piper, even though I don't like her."

that dosen't mean they didn't like each other or were about to date.


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Leah Alexis wrote: "Reyna. It seems that more people ship Jeyna then Jasper. Piper's relationship was just made by the mist."

Yeah, in the beginning of The Lost Hero. But Jason began to like her because of her, not because of the mist. And did you read The Mark of Athena?


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@ barbara

she was in a desperate position. additionally percy/annabeth had already destroyed her first home, of which percy has no memory of; therefore she couldn't pull that card on him.
so...how could she hv simply asked?


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@ leah

in MoA, piper herself wonders whether aphrodite is influencing jason. when she meets hercules she also has thought abt jason being like hercules, who was basically a self centre jerk

just because they are together in MoA doesn't mean they really like each other, nor does it mean they'll stay together


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Leah rawr the dinosaur wrote: "@ leah

in MoA, piper herself wonders whether aphrodite is influencing jason. when she meets hercules she also has thought abt jason being like hercules, who was basically a self centre jerk

just..."



Aphrodite herself even told Piper that there was nothing wrong with her and Jason's relationship, and she didn't want to interfere. Also, in the first chapter Annabeth says that Piper and Jason are dating. Rick Riordan isn't a romance author; he adds romance but it is not the main point, so I don't think he will add any more love triangles.


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piper/jason/reyna was looked at from only one POV, and that was piper's; and she had doubts herself. so how could it have been a triangle is we're only getting her pov? we may not be able to get reyna's, but jason's pov is still out.

I don't remember aphrodite saying that...?


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Leah rawr the dinosaur wrote: "piper/jason/reyna was looked at from only one POV, and that was piper's; and she had doubts herself. so how could it have been a triangle is we're only getting her pov? we may not be able to get re..."

The tea party scene in MOA.


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venus didn't say anything....she simply ignored piper's relationship.....probably bacause you know, seeing that reyna wasn't there with them, means that there wasn't much of a triangle nor was there much entertainment for venus/aphrodite ( esp. in the book, the 2 main love things were peryc and annabeth for obvious reasons and hazel/leo/frank for obvious reasons)

reyna simply wasn't in the book enough for there to be a triangle. and jason's pov was not given.


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Alexis Leah wrote: "Alexis wrote: "Reyna. It seems that more people ship Jeyna then Jasper. Piper's relationship was just made by the mist."

Yeah, in the beginning of The Lost Hero. But Jason began to like her becaus..."


I posted this before I read MoA.


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Nancy Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential girlfriend. It was showed Piper wasn't going to give up Jason without a fight.

Piper claimed to be a "tomboy" in TLH, but in the MoA, Annabeth said she saw Piper with her hair braided with feather and not even she had time to get her hair nice.

It was said in TLH that Piper knew her Greek mythology well, but in the MoA she seems like she doesn't.


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Leah Alexis wrote: "Leah wrote: "Alexis wrote: "Reyna. It seems that more people ship Jeyna then Jasper. Piper's relationship was just made by the mist."

Yeah, in the beginning of The Lost Hero. But Jason began to li..."


Well now that you've read it do you understand


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Leah Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential girlfriend. It was showed Pipe..."


Well, I assume maybe she tried to do her hair or look nice because she and Jason were finally going out, and she felt a little self-concious, afraid that he really didn't like her.

And don't forget, Piper knows her Greek mythology only because of her father's movies. She doesn't know much about Roman, even if it is basically the same thing.


GreatScottland Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential girlfriend. It w..."


I doubt it.
I personally think RR did it to make people who felt it was really weird that Piper went out of her way to make her hair choppy just to not look pretty , so he put that scene in. And plus she never mentioned mythology in MoA, so I think he did it to make her not as smart.


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Bridget i hate Piper but I also hate Jason but I love Reyna. So Piper and Jason should be together so they could just be brushed aside in my mind. If Jason and Reyna became a couple, all Piper would say would be "Noooo! My prince charming is with the wrong girl!Bla bla bla, don't care don't care don't care.*sobbing*" please, no


message 1083: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential gir..."


Rick says he doesn't care what people think about his books. Why would he think, "oh, people are worried that Piper has issues, let's make her make herself pretty. While I'm at it, why don't I make her an idiot, too?"


Angeline Joseph It's gotta be Piper. Reyna is SO sulky!


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Leah Angeline wrote: "It's gotta be Piper. Reyna is SO sulky!"

I refuse to hate any characters, but I have to agree with you. Piper is a great character.


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Nancy Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential girlfriend. It w..."


Mmm...Piper knows Jason likes her; she's a daughter of Aphrodite, she can feel romantic feelings.

RR probably made Piper not to mention mythology since it will steal Annabeth's thunder. But still Piper had no knowledge of mythology even though she was a walking encyclopedia about mythology


message 1087: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential gir..."


But Piper is already pretty, according to Jason.


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Leah Nancy wrote: "Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Has anyone noticed Piper seems different from THL and from the MoA?

In TLH Piper said she was willing to let Jason go if he had a girlfriend. Reyna was his potential gir..."


I think that Piper didn't mention mythology because she didn't feel the need to mention it. It would be a bit odd if every time they came across a mythological creature, Piper would say, "Oh, I know what that is!"

Also, people need to remember that Mythology is not easy. Even Percy has trouble with it.

And lastly, she knows mythology because her father was in a movie about it.


Mariama Lei We don't know Reyna's story other than a brief summary of what she told Percy, so many people are more attatched to Piper and Jason. But what if RR wrote a book from only the Roman's point of view during the first Titan war when Percy was out in NYC and Jason and Reyna were in CA destroying the Titan base there? Then I think we would see Reyna's character develop and would feel more attatched to her. Also if RR wrote an in depth thing on what Reyna and her sister had to go through after the ruining of Circe's island, that would enhance her character more. RR, if your listening and need book ideas... just saying!!


Mariama Lei Now about the Hazel-Frank-Leo thing...
Well Leo is the great grandchild of Sammy Valdez so that's kind of weird considering Hazel's history with Sammy!!! And Frank is just a huge teddy bear!! But i do love Leo! He's absolutely hilarious!!!


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Leah Mariama22 wrote: "Now about the Hazel-Frank-Leo thing...
Well Leo is the great grandchild of Sammy Valdez so that's kind of weird considering Hazel's history with Sammy!!! And Frank is just a huge teddy bear!! But i..."


I like everyone in Frank/Hazel/Leo! I personally ship Frazel, though. Leo's mine!


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GreatScottland Leah wrote: "Angeline wrote: "It's gotta be Piper. Reyna is SO sulky!"

I refuse to hate any characters, but I have to agree with you. Piper is a great character."

um, she isn't really a great character because we have yet to see a character who can see her flaws.

And if you mean she is a great person, the way she treated drew was more mean then good. Sure drew was mean to her, but that doesn't mean you should get revenge on what she did. She never tried to be nice to drew, so I think she isn't a very good role model


message 1093: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "Angeline wrote: "It's gotta be Piper. Reyna is SO sulky!"

I refuse to hate any characters, but I have to agree with you. Piper is a great character."
um, she isn't really a great char..."


um, excuse me, are we talking about the same Drew?

Drew was a complete b****. No question. I would have done the same exact thing as Piper did. She deserved it. Good riddance, Drew.

Piper has plenty of flaws. She isn't that great at decision making, for example. But we all have flaws.

She's smart, she believes in love and inner beauty. If you don't think Piper is a good role model, then who is?


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am..just out of curiousity....esp. since this is a reyna/jason/piper forum. and my question doesn't really hv much to do with reyna, you don't have to answer; but I would still be curious :p

so, your saying that piper believes in love, but so do annabeth and hazel, so why is it so special with piper?

I would understand if she was the only aphrodite kid who really understood it, but the thing is that in TLH, drew had the aphrodite cabin under her charmspeak, therefore, we don't know if love is something only piper understands or not.

chances are, piper is not the only one who believed in it. the fact that she was the only one who could charmspeak other than drew, means that she would hv been more capable of resisting drew's charmspeak, which means piper would hv been the only one who could have held on to what she believed love was.

my point is; piper isn't the only one who. believes in love.

as for reyna, why would she have waited 8 months for jason? if she really didn't care/love jason, wouldn't she have replaced him asap?

my last point is that, what kind of love does piper believe in exactly? most of the times, she is thinking abt herself, and abt what she wants, rarely ever abt jason or what he wants.

the most obvious proof for that would be when she suspects her mother is interfering and thinks its okay for her to do so.

I mean what kind of love is that? and is that even love? IMO, it's not.


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btw...open question again.
i've seen this many times, not just in leah's post, but alot of ppl say that piper's flaw is that she can't make decisions.

could someone explain that to me? esp. since from my understanding, siblings of the same god/goddess, have the SAME flaw. so, in regards to piper's flaw, shoudn't her flaw be the same flaw the drew has? I mean, regardless of how much you may 'hate' drew, and love piper, the fact is that they are siblings, and therefore should hv the same flaw right?
correct me if i'm wrong....


Emily Danielle well, let's just see on who would Jason choose...


as of now, I ship Piper&Jason and Reyna&Leo. But I would be grateful if Leo would be mine! ^^,


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Valerie Provence rawr the dinosaur wrote: "btw...open question again.
i've seen this many times, not just in leah's post, but alot of ppl say that piper's flaw is that she can't make decisions.

could someone explain that to me? esp. since ..."


No. They might be from the same Goddess but they are different people with different souls and personality traits. Therefore there flaws are different.


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Jason should choose anyone other than Piper. Piper is a hypocrite and is very obsessed with him. A relationship between the two of them is almost like the Edward-Bella relationship, which is sad because Riordan is a considerably better writer than Meyer is.

Piper really needs someone to point out her flaws and get her to fix them so that the Jasper relationship isn't completely stupid. Reyna is good for Jason but seeing how much their friendship is gone, I would say that Reyna should go for someone else or stay single like Zoe Nightshade.


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Leah Reyna. And. Jason. Were. Never. Dating. There was no 'relationship' you speak of.


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Leah wrote: "Reyna. And. Jason. Were. Never. Dating. There was no 'relationship' you speak of."

I never said that....I only said they had a FRIENDSHIP, which is completely different from a relationship. You ought to read comments carefully rather than scan them. -_-


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