Who wants a continuation to Breaking Dawn *NO TWI-HATERS!*

[Ricco]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/250360...

[Cat]

Missyb wrote: "Maybe a short story with the release of Morning Sun could happen. That would satisfy those wanting Edward's version of Twilight and those wanting a wrap up of the series. Just don't give us 200 p..."

It's actually Midnight Sun

[[deleted user]]

no just let the horrific series die

[CASI]

Kelsey wrote: "no just let the horrific series die"

oh why oh why? :)

[Cat]

I love Twilight, no need to be mean

[CASI]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "I love Twilight, no need to be mean"

:) Let her be.. just chill. :P

[[deleted user]]

twilight ruined vampires. vampires used to be awesome now their all sparkly and stuff. its just wrong and terrible

[Izzy]

Take some time out and breath. While it's great that you're writing something you're passionate about, you need to realise a few things.
Firstly, do your research. Spend time reading guides and articles on how to become a better writer and research publication. I'm not saying you can or can't be published but their websites provide some great insight in what makes a good writer, starting from the basics (correct spelling, grammar and format) to the gritty bits (interesting characters, character development, purple prose, cut out excess fat and so on).

Secondly, treasure your readers and critiques. Obviously, I’m talking about your behaviour on this point. It’s obvious that you care greatly for your writing but once writers put their work out there for people to read and critique, anything goes. Learn to realise that not everyone will like your work and you need to get used to that. Try to distance yourself from your writing. Instead of thinking, “I’ve finally finished! I’m really proud of this and I hope that my readers will like it as much as I do!” start looking at it and think, “If I’m a reader, would I be able to follow what’s going on? What parts could I improve on? Are there any jumbled or weak sentences?” Write, edit and critique your own writing before asking people to do it first. Not only will it help you to realise your own mistakes, it will improve your writing and help you to grow as a person.
You asked for critiques and you’ve received them. From your replies, you obviously expected compliments and you’re hurt and angry that you’ve received negative comments. Learn to differentiate between a comment and a critique. The critiques you’ve received have been, believe it or not, very polite. They’ve taken your feelings into consideration and have lightly touched on some points rather than simply ripping your writing apart.
People are entitled to their opinions and should be respected for them. Treasure every reader, even if you disagree with their opinion. Truthfully, “haters” (I hate that word. It’s a stupid word that people abuse. The word “hater” implies a personal grudge when in some cases it isn’t so e.g. critiques) will give you a much more honest opinion than family, friends and fans. They will see and comment on things that family, friends and fans will over-look because they’re wrapping you in cotton wool.

If you feel hurt or disagree with an opinion, it would be best to reply, “Thank you very much for taking the time to read and comment on my writing. I will take your points into consideration.”
I was going to read your writing but after reading your replies to people, I am put off. Your writing could be fantastic but I’m still not going to read it because of your behaviour. You are very young and impatient. It takes time and effort to write and advertise your writing but it doesn’t seem like you’re willing to do it properly. As people have suggested, upload your writing on your page and other writing websites and work from there rather than create threads and insult people who do not like the subject or your writing.
Fanfiction.net is, of course, solely for fan-fiction. Quizilla appeals to people similar to your age. deviantArt has a small but strong writing community. There are so many websites that you can try and learn a great deal from.

When I first started writing, I was crap. Ever read the Mediator series by Meg Cabot? Yeah, I totally copied that. After moving to deviantArt and receiving many comments saying that my ideas were cliché and stupid, I started researching writing and publication and I slowly realised that I wasn’t all that. I can’t say if I’m a good writer now but I’ve definitely improved. I’ve joined in many small, online contests on deviantArt and have participated in challenges and prompts. And I’ve appreciated every single comment that I received no matter if they were positive or negative.
It’s obvious to anyone that you only appreciate the good comments, not the bad. I think that before you start involving yourself in the world of writing, I suggest you think about your behaviour and your thoughts towards writing.
Writing is not supposed to be a popularity contest. It’s a talent and is supposed to be enjoyable. So many nice people have tried to help you out on this thread by giving you pointers and reading your work, but you obviously don’t give a damn.
You said that someday you’re going to be big. How are you going to do that if you keep insulting your readers? Do you have any idea how rude and insulting you sound? Do you realise that in order to be a big author, you need readers? How are you going to be successful if you’re just going to be rude to the people who, essentially, are going to make you big? Publishers won’t accept anything unless they know people will read it, and readers won’t read anything from writers who don’t appreciate them.

[Cat]

Kelsey wrote: "twilight ruined vampires. vampires used to be awesome now their all sparkly and stuff. its just wrong and terrible"


In the first post, it says TWI HATERS NT ALLOWED! Im changing the name

[CASI]

Izzy wrote: "Take some time out and breath. While it's great that you're writing something you're passionate about, you need to realise a few things.
Firstly, do your research. Spend time reading guides and art..."

Izzy dear.. well, I like you. lol kidding aside...
I read your comment in spite of its length, well it's worth it. :) You managed to give your views in such a nice way (for me). I am not really a writer but I became inspired by what you've written on this thread. Keep it up. :)

[Sandra]

It would be nice to read it in Renesmee's point of view. You've got a go shot at becoming a really good writer someday. Keep writing no matter what some people say.

[Izzy]

Casi wrote: "Izzy wrote: "Take some time out and breath. While it's great that you're writing something you're passionate about, you need to realise a few things.
Firstly, do your research. Spend time reading g..."

Haha, thanks! I used to take English Literature back in college and I've always been the type to ramble so that's probably why I write long comments. :D

Actually, my comment is roughly the same word count as 2 or 3 of her chapters so I really hope that she does read it, otherwise nobody is going to take her seriously. If she's not going to take the time to read my comment and listen to me then why should people take the time to read her writing?

The fact that she's stating "No Twi-haters" on this thread just shows that she doesn't know what she wants. She says that she wants to become a writer but she's more interested in popularity than writing.

[Cat]

Im gonna delete this topic now, people are criticizing me in ways I asked them not to. I posted my story on her to see if people liked it. I also made this topic to ask a simple question, and all you people dd is critcize me and talk about me like I'm not even here. You guys suck. I'll probably get criticized for that too...

[Izzy]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Im gonna delete this topic now, people are criticizing me in ways I asked them not to. I posted my story on her to see if people liked it. I also made this topic to ask a simple question, and all y..."

As I've already said, you're taking things personally and you need to have a couple of days to calm down.
What does it matter if people don't like Twilight or your writing? As long as you enjoy writing it then it doesn't matter.
People are trying to help you with you're writing and the way that you reply to them, unintentionally or not, comes across as rude. I don't know whether you're just a naturally emotional person or if you're insecure or what, but take the comments as they are, not what you perceive them to be.

Talk about you like you're not even here? We are allowed to talk and discuss with other people on this thread. Again, don't take it personally. Would you rather we ignore your thread completely or give you advice and comments?

If you give us an idea of what you would like then we can go from there. Telling us that "we suck" is not going to get you anywhere. I spent 40 minutes typing my previous comment to you which includes pointers and advice. Out of all the comments you've received on this thread, my previous comment has been the most helpful and not at all malicious.
I'm not trying to sound mean but I spent 40 minutes of my time to help you and now you're basically saying that I suck for trying to help you out.

In life, you can't simply behave like this and delete the moment from life. You're going to have to behave appropriately and deal with the consequences in a controlled manner.
I'm more than willing to read through your work and give you feedback if you're willing. If you're not then that's fine with me. I'm presuming you've read the advice that I've given and my most recent replies on threads--I'm not at all abusive. I may be blunt on occasion but I'm not mean and make things personal.

[Cat]

Sorry for anything I said, but I only wanted people who liked Twilight in my disscussion. I wanted good people. A man who litterally called me the B**** word deleted his account moments after he did it. And he was the first person who commented. I get emotional sometimes, but when people cus you out, you get a little paranoid...

[Izzy]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Sorry for anything I said, but I only wanted people who liked Twilight in my disscussion. I wanted good people. A man who litterally called me the B**** word deleted his account moments after he di..."

Understandable as I've been in a similar situation when I was younger. (Am not trying to be patronising)
You're going to get people like that and you're going to have to decide the best course of action at the time but sometimes fighting fire with fire doesn't help.
I'm not saying you should accept abuse but critiques and abuse are different things. The former, if done properly, is analysing your work in a professional manner while the latter can become very personal.

Have you got an account on a writing website? Goodreads is more for book lovers rather than writers. As you've hidden your account from people other than friends, it makes it hard to showcase your writing. If you're serious about sharing your writing then joining a more appropriate website would be a better idea.
I first started on Quizilla, then fictionpress (but I didn't like it and you can't delete your account) and then finally settled on deviantArt.

[[deleted user]]

Karen wrote: "there is a nook book fan written sequel to Breaking Dawn written from Reneesme's point of view. It is called First Light and is free to download."

on amazon? where?

[Leonor]

I don't want another book. Breaking Dawn was disappointing enough. I begin to think if people who say that SM can't write are right. I guess what captivated me was the love story and not the writing. Half of the book is spent on the honeymoon. Seems like a 3rd category erotic book. Then the end is crap. When you get to the climax, it all ends. Ridiculous...So no. I don't want a 5th book.

(I don't hate Twilight by the way, I really loved the first 3 books)

[Marie]

Yes, I thought Breaking Dawn dragged on and on, although I read Twilight in a couple of days, this took me over five months to read! SM's writing was atrocious, and disappointing, and if the movie is anything like her last book, I am glad that I haven't seen it yet. And although I loved R.Patz in Twilight, I think together with her storyline, the actors have also been dragged down...I don't like it when a story that can be ended in the second or third book at the most, should be made into a fourth or even fifth, when it has nothing new to say...

[CASI]

Izzy wrote: "Casi wrote: "Izzy wrote: "Take some time out and breath. While it's great that you're writing something you're passionate about, you need to realise a few things.
Firstly, do your research. Spend t..."

English Lit. :) So maybe that's really the reason why you're comment reach such length, however, it was really worth a read.

Unfortunately, the person whom you intended your comment was maybe not that open to hearing or reading opinions and suggestions that may contradict her will. I tried to view her profile but she's keeping it from the public eye or maybe she's just giving the chance of seeing it to her direct friends. In connection to this, I tried to view it cuz I wanted to know her age, I'm thinking that maybe she's still young to be as open-minded as other people on the right age or those who have reached their adulthood already. You know, young minds are sometimes blocking the things that they think does not coincide with what they want and what they believe in. :)

Just like what you have told her, lets give her a couple of days to calm down. :)

[Alyssha]

i want a continuation of Breaking Dawn!!! i wanna know how nessie is going to turn out .

[Courtney]

I would love to read a short novel on what happened between Renesmee and Jacob ^_^

[Sarah]

You can't ask people what they think and then jump all over them when they give constructive criticism.
I'd like a continuance to the series, by the original writer. Not by a fan.

[Leonor]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Im gonna delete this topic now, people are criticizing me in ways I asked them not to. I posted my story on her to see if people liked it. I also made this topic to ask a simple question, and all y..."
You're a spoiled brat. As people said, you put your writing here. You can't expect only good comments. How the hell do you expect to improve your writing if you don't have negative criticisms? If you don't like people's advice, stop writing. Or just show it to your mummy. She'll probably lie to you and say it's a Pulitzer winner.

[[deleted user]]

Leonor wrote: "Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Im gonna delete this topic now, people are criticizing me in ways I asked them not to. I posted my story on her to see if people liked it. I also made this topic to a..."

SHUT UP, LEONOR! GOOD GRIEF! You guys are soooo mean to Glee! I think all of u need a good punishment. Glee is MY friend. If you dont have something nice to say, go away. there is a reason its called CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM!

[[deleted user]]

Sarah wrote: "You can't ask people what they think and then jump all over them when they give constructive criticism.
I'd like a continuance to the series, by the original writer. Not by a fan."

well the author isnt going to continue it so us fans have to take over. Y dont u just keep quiet and let Glee do what she likes to do. Y r u even on here?

[Kirby]

come on, now! there's no need to call her a spoiled brat! she's just a young girl who took a risk and put her art out there for others, and she hadn't learned yet to be able to withstand criticism. ALL young people go through phases where their feelings are very easily hurt (I still have some of that, even as an adult). I think she already HAS grown a lot from her initial remarks to people (like to me), and calling her names is NOT going to help anything here...

[Jenny]

I would love to see more. Please Stephanie write on!!!

[Cat]

Leonar wrote: You're a spoiled Brat

Yeah, thanks, thats the abuse im talking about

[Leonor]

Madi wrote: "Leonor wrote: "Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Im gonna delete this topic now, people are criticizing me in ways I asked them not to. I posted my story on her to see if people liked it. I also made ..."

She cant take constructive criticism. That was my point. Every time someone as something to say about her writing she gets defensive and says shes closing the topic. If she can't take it, then just don't show it to people. Wake up to life. Not everyone as sweet words for your ears. Deal with it.
But ok. Sry for calling her a spoiled brat.

[Leonor]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "Leonar wrote: You're a spoiled Brat

Yeah, thanks, thats the abuse im talking about"

Girl, you seriously need to mature...Take Izzy's advises cause they're real good and stop acting like that. If you take a step back there's lots of people who did like your writing. And keep in mind that there will always be haters in the world...
Dont' be offended. I just thought your reaction was childish. But you are one so sry about that. Keep on writing and posting!

[Cat]

I put on it NO TWI HATERS and no people with bad critisism. And still people came. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT U UNDERSTAND? Plz just stop... I literally cried when you guys called me a spoiled brat, even though I've been called worse. I have been verbally and sometimes physically abused for my writing. I have tried to contact Goodreads.com people to have the people deleted but they change their name beore I can tell them. If I said something about it that hurt your feelings, no need to hurt my feelings back. I'm 12 for peetsake! And just recently turned 12. This is like Highschoolers ganging up on a 5 year old. I'm sure all of you are over 15 and KNOW BETTER. I keep apolgizing and trying to make ammends by deleting the topic so (as one person said it) You dont have to read my Bulls**t anymore.
If this makes you think I cant take critisism, be my guest to think so. I wont beleive anything you guys say about me. If somebody told me I was stupid, I wouldn't beleive them.
There have been times when I thought I wanted to kill myself beacause of things people have SAID and DONE to me, online and in person.
I wish some people would either crawl back into their holes, or leave me alone!
If you dont like my writing, why did you read it?!

Signed,
Hurt 12 year old with a dream
Penelope

[Kirby]

:(

[Leonor]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "I put on it NO TWI HATERS and no people with bad critisism. And still people came. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT U UNDERSTAND? Plz just stop... I literally cried when you guys called me a spoiled brat, ev..."

We need to talk privately sweetie.

[Cat]

well.... where? If you really wanna call me names again, tell me where?

[Leonor]

I'm not calling you names come on...

[Leonor]

Leena wrote: "what is ur problem leonor, seriously, just leave her alone and dont post anything if u cant be nice"

Seriously? I read her last post and I'm trying to reach out to her cause she has heavy problems in her life and instead of trying to do the same you just try and shut me up? Well I won't leave her alone with those problems.

[Kirby]

I think leonor's tryin' to make it right...

[Leonor]

I am. Did you see what she said? That she's being hit and she wanted to kill herself??? She's 12. Someone needs to talk to her.

[Cat]

Leonor wrote: "I'm not calling you names come on..."

You called me a spoiled brat, thats a name

[Leonor]

Sweetie I said I was sorry. I'll say it again. I'm sorry.
But you need help...

[Cat]

Leonor wrote: "I am. Did you see what she said? That she's being hit and she wanted to kill herself??? She's 12. Someone needs to talk to her."

I'm not being hit, i was pushed once for being young and a writer. Publishing companies have put me down because Im young. I havent attempted suicide, ive thought about it but not to an extent.

[Cat]

Leonor wrote: "Sweetie I said I was sorry. I'll say it again. I'm sorry.
But you need help..."

I need help? Am I a mental patient for crying because I was yelled at and called a b***h

[Kirby]

Leonor wrote: "I am. Did you see what she said? That she's being hit and she wanted to kill herself??? She's 12. Someone needs to talk to her."

I don't know what to say, except that she (YOU, penelope) was one of my 1st (if not THE 1st) GR friend I ever had, and I'm very glad she reached out to me...I've always recognized her spunk n spirit in discussions, no matter her profile name or pic, and I think she's a very strong girl...and that she's (YOU'RE) more'n welcome to message me anytime, day or night.

[Leonor]

Not everyone who needs help is a mental patient...I'm not criticising you. You are misinterpreting me...

[Habz]

Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "I put on it NO TWI HATERS and no people with bad critisism. And still people came. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT U UNDERSTAND? Plz just stop... I literally cried when you guys called me a spoiled brat, ev..."

Dear Penelope,
You have written a brilliant peice of fiction for a person your age, even beyond your age.
I know how it feels to be twelve and writing fanfiction about your favorite books, in fact, i myself wrote a fanfiction about twilight and a boy band *cringes*.
I just want you to know that i think people would appreciate your work more on a ff related website, where as i have experienced, people tend to be more positive and encouraging about your work. Try Fanfiction.net, seriously it's a brilliant website.

Secondly, i don't think most of the people commenting on your post knew how young you actually are, if they did, they would be extremely impressed with what you have wrote(like i am) and (I speak for myself here) remember exactly how bad they were at creative writing at twelve.

I can imagine that you must have worked extremely hard on this very long peice of work, and again i can imagine how disappointed it would be if i had spent a good amount of my time writing something and then getting negative comments for it.

Chin up Penelope, for a twelve year old, i know you would have gotten an A+ for this. Show it to your teacher, i have found out that they can be really encouraging:)
Also join a writing club to make your writing even more impressive, i look forward to seeing your name on my book shelf one day!

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May the Guardian Rabbits protect you:)

Yours, Habz:)

[Kirby]

Habz wrote: "Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "I put on it NO TWI HATERS and no people with bad critisism. And still people came. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT U UNDERSTAND? Plz just stop... I literally cried when you gu..."

*applause*

[Cat]

THANK YOU. Thas why I am a writer

[Cat]

Habz wrote: "Totally Glee Obsessed wrote: "I put on it NO TWI HATERS and no people with bad critisism. And still people came. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT U UNDERSTAND? Plz just stop... I literally cried when you gu..."

Thank you. And if fact my teacher did see it. She loves in genuinely, ut my teacher is my mother

[Leonor]

That's a really uplifting comment! And gotta love the Guardian Rabbits! :)