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message 1: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments I stumbled over a book that made no sense. A copy of Mrs. Malory and the Fatal Legacy that was listed with hamilton crane as a coauthor. I did some research and found out that wasn't valid.

The description and title was Mrs. Malory. But the picture is a Miss Seeton book. So I tried to fix it but only got part way and now I'm not sure what to do. I tried updating the info from B&N but that didn't eliminate the wrong picture. So then I thought that if I merged it over, maybe I could get a different picture onto it from one of the right ones. But when I try to look the book up in WorldCat it shows me the Miss Seeton one. So maybe the original entry had the wrong ISBN? But if that were the case, why does it get the right description from barnes and noble?

So at this point I don't know what to do. Maybe it should just be deleted? There was only one person who listed it as "to read".

So can someone with more experience than me take a look and decide what to do? Right now I left it merged in, but it will definitely confuse other people. It needs to be fixed somehow, but I don't know how.

The link http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/97... will hopefully show you the problematic edition.


message 2: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Hold on I'll fix it.


message 3: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Thank you Isabella. I was really at a loss what to do and didn't want to just leave it there being wrong. I am now trying to create the Mrs. Malory series properly and put books into it.


message 4: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Done, I'll fix Hamilton Crane.


message 5: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Man, Hamilton Crane is a headache to fix. There were 3 different authors that wrote books in this series. The series name is wrong, the author is wrong. Thanks Rebecca, :), it will take me a few hours to fix. I saw the mess you have to handle with Mrs. Malory series. Oy!!!


message 6: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Thank you very much.


message 7: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Yeah, I've stumbled over that series before (have read one or two of them).

I am trying to fix the Mrs. Malory series but I am not going to fix all the variant spellings of her name. Some have written Mrs. Mallory and I don't know whether it is typos or whether it might be spelled differently in some of the different versions. For some reason this series didn't exist at all. And they have been reprinted with different titles, so I am sure someone will undo much of my work at some point, despite my librarian notes on the author.


message 8: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Quick question. How do I link a series to an author? Some authors have a thing at the bottom of their profile showing hteir series. But in creating the series, I don't find a way to assign it to an author. Can you help me out with the Hazel Holt Mrs. Malory series?


message 9: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments I think these series are remnant from when everyone did whatever they thought best when adding or changing info on books.

I saw the mess you have to fix and my suggestion would be to try and find the most accurate spelling of the titles and change them all, also make sure the series name is right and go from there. One book at a time. Good luck with that maze.


message 10: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Rebecca wrote: "Quick question. How do I link a series to an author? Some authors have a thing at the bottom of their profile showing hteir series. But in creating the series, I don't find a way to assign it to an..."

give me a sec to see


message 11: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Should I pick the one that seems most correct and make it the "original title" of the books released with different titles? Would that help clear up the confusion?


message 12: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments According to the publishers the series is called "Mrs Mallory".


message 13: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Depends on the publisher then. Berkley Prime Crime says Mrs. Malory. The ones spelled Mallory still had Malory in the picture of the cover and the description. I've got one of them and it is definitely Malory the whole way through.


message 14: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments I see you created the series already. Don't worry if it's not on the author's page, it usually takes a day to show up as it's on cache. You can edit the name of the series if you need to.


message 15: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Use the name from the picture of the book.


message 16: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Yes, I created the series and populated it. I tried several editions that had series info in the title and none of them were clickable so I started from scratch. Hopefully I didn't miss one that did exist already.

Makes sense with caching. I didn't think of that. I just kept thinking that there wasn't an "author" field in the series description, but it makes sense to pull that info from the books included.

The most common series name seems to be "mrs. malory mystery" but some of the new releases with weird titles do say "Shiela Malory". I think the original titles are the ones with Mrs. Malory in them because that is most consistent in the series, and is what is shown on berkley prime crime/signet site, which is the most official looking one I've managed to find.


message 17: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Keep the one that backs up your changes. As for the title of the series, I think either one is fine at this point.


message 18: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments This is where the problem is.

Mrs. Malory and Death by Water
has also been published as
Leonora

both editions have pictures showing these titles. I have now merged them. The books are the same. I did research and the descriptions clearly describe the same plot. cozy-mystery.com, which seems at least semi-reliable, also shows many of these alternative titles.

So should I make them all have a consistent "original title" or does it make any difference? I've merged them because they are the same book. I put a librarian note on the author about the different titles and I put a note on the series about it.

There are several others in the series with multiple but very-different titles.

I am sure I did the right thing merging them, but not sure if anything more needs to be done in the background to support this. I also don't know how to control which title becomes the primary title used to alphabetize and list the books in the "combine editions" screen.

I do worry someone will undo this because it "looks" wrong, but I am certain I am right. I really did research extensively.


message 19: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments No use the same original title. As for which title becomes the primary title used to alphabetize and list the books in the "combine editions" screen, I need to check it out. I'll let you know.


message 20: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments I find myself wishing they listed them under the original title, since that is applicable to all the works anyway.

I just have to hope people trying to add their books don't get too confused. At least it looks like you find the books regardless of which title you search for. I jsut searched for one of the not-primary ones and it did find that edition of the book. So I guess it will be transparent to a lot of people and only likely to be problematic with librarians who don't read all the notes and start separating because of the different titles.

Thanks for all your help Isabella. I am much wiser now than I was before.


message 21: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Anytime, hey I have the librarian manual open everytime I log in on GR, so I know what you mean.

The Miss Seeton has 4 different authors and 2 of them wrote the books under pseudonym, so you can imagine what I'm doing, arg... you just had to find it, lol, now I feel the need to fix it.


message 22: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Oh with some of the books translated in french. It's a good thing I speak it, otherwise I'd go crazy.


message 23: by bex (new)

bex (bexdk) | 50 comments Hehehe. Sorry to stick you with that beast. I didn't have the energy last time I stumbled over it.

I had some down time, so I am going through some the books and authors already on my shelves looking for volumes needing merging or series needing creation. It seems like every time I want to add a book, I find a zillion things to fix (been adding Mary Roberts Rinehart ebooks lately and finding several misspelled authors and copious merging needing) and it always takes me forever to add a book. So I am trying to get ahead by cleaning up authors now instead of just when adding books.

I only speak English and Danish and I rarely run into Danish translations. I don't merge when I am not sure of how the titles translate.


message 24: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 72 comments Irene I suggest you look at the author's web page and take the information from there. It's updated by the author so up to date with correct order.

http://www.clivebarker.info/


message 25: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Rebecca wrote: "Quick question. How do I link a series to an author? Some authors have a thing at the bottom of their profile showing hteir series. But in creating the series, I don't find a way to assign it to an..."

If all the books in a series (or really, at least books 1 & 2) have been written by the same author, it will show up on their author page. Because author pages are cached, it can take a couple days for this to happen.


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