Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
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Holcraux
Yeah....because I'm a little confused. And what would a Where's Waldo Horcrux(?) entail? Would it be....nope, I can't even think of what that would be. Please elaborate. :)
How about a pumpkin horcrux?? Like it could forever sustain pumpkin seeds but you can't get it open..unless you have Godric Griffindor's sword!
Ok, a pumpkin is all fine and good, but could someone please share with me what a Where's Waldo Horcrux would be! Would Waldo himself be the Horcrux and you have to find him in a picture? Is that what your getting at?Bahahaha! I know! A Zack Effron poster, for sure. Very Potter Musical anyone? :)
Um...Yeah..a musical for Harry Potter would be just palin creey!!
Emma wrote: "Ok, a pumpkin is all fine and good, but could someone please share with me what a Where's Waldo Horcrux would be! Would Waldo himself be the Horcrux and you have to find him in a picture? Is that ..."Where's Waldo is a fictional Character I think there is a book...kind of like the ones filled with a pile of things and then you have to find the clock, orange and such? make sense? Well Waldo is in books like that and you have to find him...and it is suppose to be really hard. So if there was a Waldo Horcrux it would be very difficult to find...ya.
Waldo- http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/b...
Find Waldo- http://oldlife.org/files/2010/03/wher...
*sigh* No, I mean the actual "A Very Potter Musical." It is a real musical. And it is HILARIOUS! Only way to do it. Go watch it on YouTube now, I mean it. :) Then you will get the Zack Effron poster thing.
ohhh.okay?
~Silence, and the End~ wrote: "Emma wrote: "Ok, a pumpkin is all fine and good, but could someone please share with me what a Where's Waldo Horcrux would be! Would Waldo himself be the Horcrux and you have to find him in a pictu..."Hahaha, yes I understand the concept of Where's Waldo. I just didn't understand how it could be a Horcrux. So my point is, is Waldo a Horcrux? If yes, then I feel very sorry for Harry.
Oh wait...I read your edition. Ok, that makes much more sense now. Thank you. :)
Emma wrote: "~Silence, and the End~ wrote: "Emma wrote: "Ok, a pumpkin is all fine and good, but could someone please share with me what a Where's Waldo Horcrux would be! Would Waldo himself be the Horcrux and ..."Lol, I'm so confused...I think what Andrea is implying is that if the Waldo was a person, Voldy could make him a Horcrux because he's so hard to find him. Keeping Voldy alive.
Except, they'd definitely need me because I'm a beast at finding Waldo.
ohh!! I get it!!
a purse no one would expect a purse or cell phone
Kim wrote: "Emma wrote: "~Silence, and the End~ wrote: "Emma wrote: "Ok, a pumpkin is all fine and good, but could someone please share with me what a Where's Waldo Horcrux would be! Would Waldo himself be the..."Exactly! :)
I would make it... probably like a pair of socks no one expects you to put part of your soul in socks!!!
Seriously, does no one get my reference? I'm sad. ;)
lol, I'm cracking up reading this thread. And I'm still really confused by the first post...but it sounds like everyone is suggesting Voldemort should have made one(or all?) of the horcruxes really common things or a person. One big problem with that idea - people die and common things like socks deteriorate and/or are destroyed. The idea is to be immortal. He wanted things that people would...treasure. Things that would last.
Kristen wrote: "lol, I'm cracking up reading this thread. And I'm still really confused by the first post...but it sounds like everyone is suggesting Voldemort should have made one(or all?) of the horcruxes really..."Wellllll, Waldo's a character, I'd say he's immortal as long as no one finds him.
He did have one person as a horcruxe and he figured it out because he was smart but he need materials as horcruxes and more commoningly used things such as shoes and other things used everyday because people would not have expected that as much as they did the cup and the necklace.
lol, in the real world, yes, the drawing of Waldo is immortal. But if we're trying to...imagine a realistic fantasy world where Waldo is the main character like Harry is in these books, Waldo is eventually gonna get old and die on the beach or carnival or wherever he may be hiding in the book.
I know, I get it. That was a bad suggestion then. Maybe he could make a horcrux out of his glasses or something.
No it was not a bad suggestion just a different oppinion and thats ok its what makes everyone different and in a good way the world would be boring if we all thought alike.
Kelsey wrote: "He did have one person as a horcruxe and he figured it out because he was smart but he need materials as horcruxes and more commoningly used things such as shoes and other things used everyday beca..."Actually, the only person who suspected there even were horcruxes was Dumbledore. Had other people known they probably wouldn't have thought to connect anything relating to hogwarts to him or the ring or the necklace because why should they? Dumbledore only figured out that much because of the memories and because he knew how Voldemort thought better than anyone.
Had they known about the horcruxes, people most likely would have expected them to be common objects because that's what they used for port keys.
Using the things he did was probably the smartest thing for him to do under the circumstance. Dumbledore was just smarter.
And he never meant to make Harry a horcrux. That was completely accidental and if he'd realized it was gonna happen, I'm sure he would have rethought his whole plan.
Kim wrote: "I know, I get it. That was a bad suggestion then. Maybe he could make a horcrux out of his glasses or something."Well, you still have the problem of the glasses deteriorating over time or being destroyed. It needed to be something that wouldn't deteriorate - like gold, and something that people wouldn't destroy - like heirlooms from the founders of Hogwarts.
good observation kristen
But books deteriorate and snakes die so if thats your case then why those objects? The only reason that kept those things from deterioration was magic and if that same magic is applied to glasses I'm sure they'd hold up well.
All Horcruxes can obviously be destroyed with proper tools, I think it depends on how good your hiding place is...reverting back to Waldo :)
also true to me it was easy to find where he hide things, it was places he hung out and so it was easy for them to figure it out of course it took some time to find them all and they were spread apart but harry had pretty good ideas where they were and found them and yes he did have some trouble along the way but thats also with life we all have hardships somewhere in life we just have to live through them and get past them and move on and learn from our mistakes
That's true about books and the snakes, but I think those were his extras. Didn't Dumbledore say something about why he made the book into one? Something like so he could sort of do what he did when he possessed Ginny. He wanted to be able to bring 'the heir of slytherin' back if he wasn't there.Besides, books do deteriorate but it takes a LONG time. And even when they are old and falling apart, people rarely discard them the way they would with other things.
I think he was banking on the other ones - the cup, the crown, the necklace, the ring...is that all of them? I forget, lol
They were supposed to be his security.
I'm not quiet sure about the snake, though...maybe he could make it live an unnaturally long time or maybe he was just too cocky to think he'd need it.
I don't really know. I kind of wondered that about Harry though, like would he still have died a normal death from old age or would the part of Voldemort's soul keep him alive longer?
Either way, Harry could have still been killed by something other than a cursed object like was necessary for the other horcruxes. Or he could get avada kedaverad. He wasn't as...durable as say the necklace was because the necklace wasn't alive. Making a person a horcrux would probably be the least secure possibility because humans are so fragile.
True, all the horcruxes would be able to be destroyed with the right tools, but first people would have to figure out what needed to be destroyed AND have the tool to do it with. Which would be quite a task.
Say it was an everyday object like the glasses. At some point someone is going to figure out that they are impossible to destroy, thereby cluing them into the fact that there's something evil about it, which would most likely make them determined to see it destroyed. It would send up a red flag to someone like Dumbledore who would know exactly what was going on.
But what possible reason would someone have to destroy an old heirloom that isn't supposed to deteriorate? Without knowing there were horcruxes and the connection Voldemort had to those particular items, there'd be no indication that was it and no reason to try to destroy it.
Kelsey wrote: "also true to me it was easy to find where he hide things, it was places he hung out and so it was easy for them to figure it out of course it took some time to find them all and they were spread ap..."But again, no one knew except Dumbledore. Harry didn't figure anything out except the last one. I really didn't like that about the movie. Harry was pretty clueless in the book about the horcruxes.
Anyway, the person figuring it out would have had to know voldemort, which no one really did because he never let people get that close to him.
It took Dumbledore 16 or so years to figure out where most -not even all- of them were. And he was pretty darn smart.
yeah but harry figured out some of it after Dumbledore died and if it wasn't for harry voldemort would have never been killed for good
mmmm....I'm straining to remember here...but Harry only figured out where the crown was. I can't remember if Dumbledore told him what it was. I think he told him it had something to do with Ravenclaw, though. But he told him the rest. The diary was already destroyed and Dumbledore destroyed the ring.
He told him about the necklace, the cup, and the snake. Harry just had to actually track them down and destroy them.
And then of course, Dumbledore told Harry that he was also a horcrux in the memory.
I'm not discounting that Harry played a huge role in finding and destroying the horcruxes. I'm just pointing out that he never would have even known they existed, let alone what they could possibly have been without Dumbledore basically spelling it out for him.
He's the hero of the series, obviously, but he's not a genius or a master at magic. He's not supposed to be. He's just more or less an average guy with a good heart. Those guys make the best heroes :)
I've got it. I would make the Horcrux a....MOUNTAIN!
There's no rule I remember that it has to be small, make it a mountain and its indestructable...
bahahahaHA
J.D. wrote: "I've got it. I would make the Horcrux a....MOUNTAIN!
There's no rule I remember that it has to be small, make it a mountain and its indestructable...
bahahahaHA"
LOL!
Make sure that mountain's nowhere near a river or volcano! heeheehee! ;)
Kristen wrote: "lol, in the real world, yes, the drawing of Waldo is immortal. But if we're trying to...imagine a realistic fantasy world where Waldo is the main character like Harry is in these books, Waldo is ev..."NO! WAldo can't die! He's immortal! :*(
How 'bout a big diamond or something?Even if it shattered then that would just multiply the horcruxes ;)
Rogue Cinnamon wrote: "How 'bout a big diamond or something?Even if it shattered then that would just multiply the horcruxes ;)"
thats clever :)
Andrea wrote: "i was thinking that Voldemort should of made a wheres waldo holcraux..... :) Tell me what type of holcraux he should of made!PLEASE!!! (and no stupid comments about you hating harry potter, cause..."
Do you mean HORCRUX?? You spelled it wrong...! =P
J.D. wrote: "I've got it. I would make the Horcrux a....MOUNTAIN!
There's no rule I remember that it has to be small, make it a mountain and its indestructable...
bahahahaHA"
Well....then if you want to get technical, where does the mountain begin and end? Because there's no definite point at which the ground becomes 'mountain'. So if you were gonna make the mountain into a horcrux, logic would suggest that it would be the entire world, since everything's connected.
Aaaand then you'd have to worry about people blowing parts of it up and digging in parts....so many possibilities here.
Plus, are there rules? I really don't remember. I don't think they really said, but there probably are rules like everything else in the magical world.
I'd think it would have to at least be something tangible. Like, something you could move. Something you could hide. Something with definite...boundaries. And most likely some sort of size limit - like not the whole world.
Good luck moving or hiding that mountain. lol
But I'm just speculating here :)
Rogue Cinnamon wrote: "How 'bout a big diamond or something?Even if it shattered then that would just multiply the horcruxes ;)"
The diamond is a good idea, but with Voldemort he wanted that sense of connection to Hogwarts. That entitlement idea. And he didn't want to risk it falling into just anybody's hands.
lol, but I don't think the horcrux would multiply. His soul was already split past being a good idea any longer, it probably wouldn't have survived any more. And the diamond couldn't shatter if it was a horcrux. It'd be almost indestructible.
Kristen wrote: " lol, but I don't think the horcrux would multiply. His soul was already split past being a good idea any longer, it probably wouldn't have survived any more. And the diamond couldn't shatter if it was a horcrux. It'd be almost indestructible. ..."
I kinda figured as much... the image just made me lol. :)
Emma wrote: "Seriously, does no one get my reference? I'm sad. ;)"I get your reference. I think a Zeffron poster would be a wonderful horcrux. Especially because then you would have to detroy it. But I also think that a football and a dolphin would work too.
Julie wrote: "Emma wrote: "Seriously, does no one get my reference? I'm sad. ;)"I get your reference. I think a Zeffron poster would be a wonderful horcrux. Especially because then you would have to detro..."
Actually, footballs and dolphins are more like portkeys but they would still work.
Kristen wrote: "lol, I'm cracking up reading this thread. And I'm still really confused by the first post...but it sounds like everyone is suggesting Voldemort should have made one(or all?) of the horcruxes really..."true!!
how about a house??
Julie wrote: "Julie wrote: "Emma wrote: "Seriously, does no one get my reference? I'm sad. ;)"I get your reference. I think a Zeffron poster would be a wonderful horcrux. Especially because then you would..."
YES YES YES!!! But a person could never be a Portkey. That would be absurd. :) Only way to do a Harry Potter musical. It killed me. :D
yeah that would be hard for a person to be a portkey
that would be interesting..although I would HATE to be the portkey
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it means: waldo from the "wheres Waldo?" holding one