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message 1: by L-D (last edited Sep 29, 2011 09:43AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Leslie and I both agree that we don't like YA - too much teen angst! But this series just keeps coming back to haunt us with rave reviews and friend recommendations. It was part of my September Challenge and I didn't get around to it, and here it is again as part of my October challenge! So it's time to bite the bullet - join us in some teen angst if you dare!

Also - we've agreed to start the book around the 22nd but if you start it before that feel free to post your comments and we'll catch up!


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments For those who read on the Nook or Kindle- they have the whole trilogy on sale right now for $4.38.
I'm looking forward to reading this as a buddy read!


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L-D (lannie95) Just bought the bundle for the Nook. Can't believe the price - thanks for the tip!!


Tammy (tammy17) I read the series already..Don't want to give anything away..enjoy them Happy reading


message 5: by Ana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ana | 72 comments I'll read it with you. I've also chosen this book for my October pick.


message 6: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Welcome Ana! Tammy - feel free to join in the discussion as people start posting!


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Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments I just listened to this one last month - normally not a fan of YA either, but this one was decently ok


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments I'm so excited! This is my first official buddy read on Goodreads.


message 9: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Leslie wrote: "I'm so excited! This is my first official buddy read on Goodreads."

Me too!


message 10: by Ana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ana | 72 comments I like YA, but usually don't read science-fiction.
I've read the first 70 pages and I can already say that this is well written.


message 11: by Ana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ana I read this book few months ago and I read it in one sitting..Literally! It's a great book, hope you guys will enjoy it as much as I did. I haven't read the 2nd and 3rd part yet. Hopefully I will soon:)


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Ana | 72 comments I've finished! 4 and 1/2 stars, this is a good book.
I'll tell you my opinion as soon as the others finish their reading.


message 13: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Ana wrote: "I've finished! 4 and 1/2 stars, this is a good book.
I'll tell you my opinion as soon as the others finish their reading."


Ana - you make me want to jump right in and read it! I just finished my other buddy, Succubus Blues, so I'm trying to decide what to read next!!


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments Lan-Dinh wrote: "Ana wrote: "I've finished! 4 and 1/2 stars, this is a good book.
I'll tell you my opinion as soon as the others finish their reading."

Ana - you make me want to jump right in and read it! I just ..."

Lan-Dinh, I have the book now, so if you want to start earlier, go ahead. I'm going to be laid up for about 2 weeks recovering from surgery, so I will have lots of time to read. Just let me know.


message 15: by L-D (last edited Oct 02, 2011 01:59PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Oh yeah!! OMG - I'm ready to read it now. I just finished Succubus Blues and was wondering what to read next! Let's do it!

Oh - now I'm just repeating myself. But can you tell I'm excited?

Ana - we'll be ready to discuss with you soon!


message 16: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) OKAY! Just finished it and I wanted to go RIGHT into the next one! It's too late to post comments and I want to give everyone else a chance to read some of it.


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Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments grace posted this in the PIFM thread, but I thought I would respond here:

I still need to be hit over the head multiple times. I guess I expected more adult behavior out of her because she acted like an adult in every other situation.

my take is that she had time to consider and prepare for being a tribute - she'd taken the extra rations every year, so her name had been in more times than others - but can you ever prepare for love?


message 18: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Dee wrote: "grace posted this in the PIFM thread, but I thought I would respond here:

I still need to be hit over the head multiple times. I guess I expected more adult behavior out of her because she acted l..."


No - and I don't expect a teenager to be mature when it comes to love or know what to do and how to react. But that's also why I don't expect to enjoy a YA book either.


Grace (bookslikebreathing) | 102 comments Dee wrote: "grace posted this in the PIFM thread, but I thought I would respond here:

I still need to be hit over the head multiple times. I guess I expected more adult behavior out of her because she acted l..."


Oh God no. I'm 26 and I still cower. I never thought of it that way. Maybe she was so focused on survival that she didn't recognize Peeta's feelings for what they were.

I also am not sure it's an age issue. Her life had been centered in the survival of her family for most her life, so, love may just have been an afterthought.

I feel kind of bad responding in here because I've read the whole series and I don't want to spoil anyone :)


message 20: by Dee (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments i've read 1 and 2, i'm waiting for my friend to get the 3rd audiobook so we can do a buddy listen


message 21: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Grace wrote: "I also am not sure it's an age issue. Her life had been centered in the survival of her family for most her life, so, love may just have been an afterthought."

No I agree - it's not an age issue but rather, an experience issue. But sometimes those two go hand in hand. She grew up MUCH faster than expected due to her circumstances. I mean, she had to provide for her family from the age of 11. That's amazing. I have a niece who's 13 and she is about as innocent as they come. I just can't imagine. So yes, that's why I think Katniss is so capable when it comes to survival and so utterly oblivious when it comes to relationships. She doesn't even have a relationship with any adults. Her mom is a zombie. The only people I've seen her really relate to were Prim and Rue who were both 12. And of course, Gale, but she seemed oblivious to him too. And I wonder if that was more because when she met him, he was already 6 ft tall and she viewed him as an adult?


message 22: by Ana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ana | 72 comments Lan-Dinh wrote: No I agree - it's not ..."

I also think this is not an age problem. Somebody has to teach you how to love in order to understand what love really is. If you're only focused on survival you don't have the energy for anything else.
She's even not considering Gale in this book as a possible love object, she's just not in the mood for love.
The only thing that gives me pause is actually the kissing: if somebody who is really into you is kissing you, I just think that you can feel something different. The way someone is watching you, touching you, kissing you...you cannot pretend to not undestand that, even if you have never experienced it before.


message 23: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Ana wrote: "The only thing that gives me pause is actually the kissing: if somebody who is really into you is kissing you, I just think that you can feel something different. The way someone is watching you, touching you, kissing you...you cannot pretend to not undestand that, even if you have never experienced it before."

Great point. But I think she does start having feelings for Peeta, it couldn't ALL be part of the game, right? I just feel awful for Peeta because he wears his heart on his sleeve. If I were him I'd be crushed. Of course, this begs the question - after watching all of this televised, what is Gale going to think about all of this? He's probably going to be pissed. Lucy - you got a lot of 'splainin' to do!


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Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments psychologically speaking, when you are around any person for an extended period of time then you are more likely to develop an attraction to them - social proximity theory (if I remember my social psych correctly)...


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L-D (lannie95) Dee wrote: "psychologically speaking, when you are around any person for an extended period of time then you are more likely to develop an attraction to them - social proximity theory (if I remember my social ..."

I totally agree with that. That's why long-distance relationships are so difficult.


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Ana | 72 comments Dee wrote: "psychologically speaking, when you are around any person for an extended period of time then you are more likely to develop an attraction to them - social proximity theory (if I remember my social ..."

You are absolutely right.
Still, in this case I fear that her attraction to Peeta is maily lead by feeling guilty, 'cause he's trying to save her life.
But is it really attraction she's feeling for him?


message 27: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Ana wrote: "Dee wrote: "psychologically speaking, when you are around any person for an extended period of time then you are more likely to develop an attraction to them - social proximity theory (if I remembe..."

It is a physical attraction. I think the real question is - does the attraction stem from deeper feelings or is it only physical due to proximity like Dee mentions?


message 28: by Dee (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments i think its both...from how I read it, they had never really interacted until the games, although they knew who each other were


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Ana | 72 comments Dee wrote: "i think its both...from how I read it, they had never really interacted until the games, although they knew who each other were"

Probably for her it's just a fisical attraction. She doesn't know him yet, they have just shared a traumatic experience.
Talking about Peeta, do you really believe he was actually happy to go there with her?


message 30: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Happy to go to the games? I don't think so. I don't think anyone is happy to go to the games. Especially since if they're both there, best case scenario, only one of them can win. He even said that when he was talking about being in love during his interview.


message 31: by Dee (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments for them, I don't think so - because they expect to die...they aren't the tributes from the other districts where it is an honor. i would say because for them, that one person in their family might be the difference between survival and death in the winter in what they are able to provide


Lekshmy | 245 comments I Finished this book quite fast.. I liked but i found it little predictable.. I would have really liked if they would have declared only one can Win as this was the outcome of Hunger game for more than 40 yrs. I felt this twist of tributes from both district are the winner as ending to give reader happy ending to cupids:)


message 33: by L-D (last edited Oct 07, 2011 07:58AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Lekshmy wrote: "I Finished this book quite fast.. I liked but i found it little predictable.. I would have really liked if they would have declared only one can Win as this was the outcome of Hunger game for more ..."

Ah yes - totally agree with that. Maybe if the announcement was never made that two can win. At the end it came down to just the two of them, and they ended up deciding they couldn't kill each other and opted for suicide death by berries instead. Then at the last minute, they were both announced winners to their shock and amazement and it turns out that the capitol would rather have 2 winners than none? Then it would've been a little bit more of an unexpected twist at the end. But you're right, the way it was all laid out nice and pretty made it a little anticlimactic.


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Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments yeah, but the second book takes that twist and totally changes everything...and that's all i'm going to say


message 35: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) LOVE books with a twist - especially if they're unpredictable. Can't wait.


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Ana | 72 comments Dee wrote: "yeah, but the second book takes that twist and totally changes everything...and that's all i'm going to say"

It seems that we have to start book n.2 fast!
There are too many questions to solve.


message 37: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) You guys jumping into book two or saving it for next month?


Lekshmy | 245 comments Yes let's go for the secOnd one !!! I am starting this next Sunday as I don't have copy yet ;)


Lekshmy | 245 comments Lan-Dinh wrote: "Lekshmy wrote: "I Finished this book quite fast.. I liked but i found it little predictable.. I would have really liked if they would have declared only one can Win as this was the outcome of Hunge..."

Yes LAN !!! This would have good and realistic :)... Wish author had asked for suggestions ;)


message 40: by L-D (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) I bought the ebook when the trilogy was under $5 last week - GREAT deal. All 3 books.


message 41: by Ana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ana | 72 comments Ok, I have to finish another book first but I'll jump to the second one as soon as I'm done.


Lekshmy | 245 comments I missed the deal :(


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments I'm about 3/4's of the way done. I have to say that all the reasons I didn't want to read this have held up. But I'm glad I'm reading it so at least I understand what people are talking about. I just don't understand what the fuss is about. I also have ethical problems with the story and how it is written.


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Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments ethical - how? can you explain


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments There were things I liked about this book and things I really didn't like. The story became more interesting as it went along and I do feel like I want to read the other ones. Especially since it ended in such an unsatisfactory way. Very unfinished and almost rushed. Like the author just didn't know what to do with these two characters. Or, the book was always intended to lead to the next one. The only time I really connected to Katniss was when she was with Rue and she covered her with flowers. There are very compelling qualities to this story, but I felt that the authour did a very poor job of exploring them. Maybe this is because it is YA book, I'm not really sure. It was just very flat for me.
And that's what I didn't like. I don't know if the author intended the "flat affect" to reflect the damaged part of Katniss, or if that is just how she writes. I felt absolutely no connection to her and to what was happening to her, except when she allows herself to become vulnerable. Again, this may be the point the author is trying to get across. The callousness the character portrays was really disturbing to me and her response to Peeta made no sense to me. She was able to form relationships, just not with him. Because somehow she felt indebted to him. She was able to develop trust, just not with him. It all felt very contrived.


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments Dee, you asked about my ethical dilemma with the story. Let me preface it by saying that I really really dislike distopian and otherwise "dark" themed literature. I hated Lord of the Flies when I had to read it in school. Hate is actually not strong enough. I do not like the trend in children and YA adult fiction to have such dark themes-alot of Newberry award winners I find are very disturbing for young people to read. I have problems with how this author writes about the killing once the games begin. Again, it is so flat emotionally. When Foxface dies in front of her, she does not respond at all. Peeta does. Interesting choice for the male character to hold all the emotional resonance in the story. It's not until Cato is dying that she ever connects, except of course to Rue. But that's expected. I struggle with the callousness of it all for young people. And there's no resolution in this story. Still working it out in my head.


message 47: by L-D (last edited Oct 12, 2011 09:22AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

L-D (lannie95) Leslie wrote: "The only time I really connected to Katniss was when she was with Rue and she covered her with flowers."

I definitely agree with that statement. I didn't connect with Katniss much at all. I think that because I came into this book knowing that it would have YA elements I wouldn't care for, that I was able to look beyond that. I am kind of grading it on a curve, if you know what I mean?

I liked Katniss as a survivor and a provider, but she was underdeveloped socially. There is really no room in her life to chase after boys or play the courtship games so she just doesn't have the social experience or knowledge to interact with other people. She's stunted. The only relationship she understands is the relationship with her sister, and by transference, Rue. So yes, I think that she is impossible to relate to, but you have to see her within the environment she was raised to understand why she's like that. If you took her out of that environment and put her in a regular high school and she acted like that, I would not be able to read 5 pages of the book.


~Leslie~ (akareadingmachine) | 1934 comments I agree with you completely about the context that she lives in completely impacts her ability to form relationships. I actually was a post traumatic stress counselor when I worked. She is absolutely traumatized by her experiences and her automatic reaction is anger. Her anger at her mother is pretty well described. But again there is a flatness there as well. But she's able to form relationships to others- Gale, Cinnas, even Haymitch eventually. It just feels contrived that she cannot with Peeta- and then when she finally does, the author seems to want to take it back. But you are right, the flatness could be because of the audience. You are right, that is definitely why I don't read YA books. I read for that emotional connection to a character.


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