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message 1101: by M (last edited Jul 17, 2012 10:41AM) (new)

M | 11617 comments Guy, it’s important to get the original. It’s Hoff’s commentary and the background information he supplies that make the book worth reading, and he said some things the publisher thought would be found offensive and that were removed when the book was reprinted, but that you would find interesting. I’m not at home, so I don’t have the bibliographical information, but I’ll post it later this afternoon.

I came across the book at a Salvation Army store years ago, and luckily the version I got was the original. I think it was published by Tichnor & Fields. I had never read anything like it. It’s really a love story, though a very strange one that isn’t related as such, in which Hoff falls in love with a young woman from the past because of the spell her writing casts on him--specifically, the diary she had kept when she was a little girl.


message 1102: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Interesting. Sounds like something that is in-line with Dims Hall. Thanks for the extra information. Now it will be a bit more of a challenge to get.


message 1103: by M (last edited Jul 17, 2012 11:53AM) (new)

M | 11617 comments Here it is:

Hoff, Benjamin. The Singing Creek Where the Willows Grow: The Rediscovered Diary of Opal Whiteley New York: Tichnor & Fields, 1986.

I’ll be curious to know your thoughts on whether the image of Opal that haunted Hoff--the image that developed in his mind because of the magic her words worked on him and because of the past she was a part of, seen through a late-twentieth-century imagination--worked as a projection carrier for him, a femme fatale of sorts. In a more recent book, Kathrine Beck writes:

“. . . Hoff outlined a theory of impending ecological doom, revealed by changing migration patterns of animals, climate change, volcanic activity, and changes in ocean currents . . . and said it was possible that ‘we have little time left.’ . . . The version of The Singing Creek Where the Willows Grow currently in print eliminates this ecological warning, and some of the other personal material seems less emotionally fraught. . . .

“Hoff believes that the diary was an authentic product of childhood, but that Opal was schizophrenic . . .. A professor at the University of Oregon . . . had told me that Benjamin Hoff was in love with Opal, an impression I had also received from reading his book. I asked him if he had fallen in love with her. ‘I would say so,’ he replied matter-of-factly. ‘Maybe not in the usual way. Spiritually maybe. . . .’” (Pages 248-249.)

Beck, Kathrine. Opal: A Life of Enchantment, Mystery, and Madness. New York: Viking, 2003.


message 1104: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Her tea was always
freshly brewed, her musings tucked
away in her snood;

gold earrings, rings on
her toes, and her husband had
a ring in his nose.


message 1105: by A_x (new)

A_x A fashion statement
till a freak accident robs
him--gasp!--of his nose


message 1106: by M (last edited Jul 17, 2012 05:05PM) (new)

M | 11617 comments He couldn’t afford
surgery. When he comes home,
the terrier barks.

He picked up a nose
at the dimestore, and now he
looks like Groucho Marx.


message 1107: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 181 comments I hit the wall with
My hand. It hurts so, so much.
The surgery sucks.


message 1108: by Kyra (new)

Kyra (Nikara) | 1221 comments It's really a shame
The doctor doesn't even
Know what he's doing

Who on Earth gave him
His so-called master's degree?
He's using a knife!


message 1109: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments “I know just what will
do the trick,” said Dr. Blud.
“Hand me that ice pick.”


message 1110: by Kyra (new)

Kyra (Nikara) | 1221 comments "Doc, I think I'm ill."
"So? What do you expect me
To do about it?"


message 1111: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments The less you know, the
more certain you are. It’s a
happy way to be.

With uncertainty
comes a know-it-all patient
and a framed M.D.


message 1112: by A_x (last edited Jul 18, 2012 02:38PM) (new)

A_x Ignorant, yet glad:
the Zen of a true patient
although still in pain.


message 1113: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 181 comments Pain is a message
That you can choose to accept
Or choose to deny.


message 1114: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments I deny pain with
remarkable flair, then leap
from the dentist’s chair.


message 1115: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments M wrote: "The less you know, the
more certain you are. It’s a
happy way to be.

With uncertainty
comes a know-it-all patient
and a framed M.D."


M, this is brilliant! LoL!


message 1116: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments It was in my ass
That the big pain came to pass
From the pretty lass.


message 1117: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Good morning Al. I couldn't resist.


message 1118: by Kyra (new)

Kyra (Nikara) | 1221 comments My stomach hurts
Twists in pain from this laughing
I blame all of you


message 1119: by A_x (new)

A_x Said the old master
"The best medicine? Laughter!"
"...Good health thereafter."


message 1120: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4485 comments The laughter makes me
need a doc to get the jig-
gles from my belly!


message 1121: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Then all my jiggles
came up at once, with chewed toast
and mayhaw jelly.


message 1122: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments When she saw the mess
on her shoes, she sang the high
heels and vomit blues.


message 1123: by Kyra (new)

Kyra (Nikara) | 1221 comments LOL, like you and Frank!!!


message 1124: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments LoL! Nice way to start my work day M & Al.


message 1125: by M (last edited Jul 20, 2012 08:38AM) (new)

M | 11617 comments Wow, Alex! Three rhymes in one verse. Let’s see if I can follow that.


He slipped on a bun
and his suit pants came undone
as he wildly spun.


message 1126: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments LoL!


message 1127: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments He hadn’t time to
count the cost of all he’d lost
now that he’d been tossed.


message 1128: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Before being tossed
He'd thought he'd learnt that having
was just to let go.

He had never thought
what it might mean to his wife
to be the one freed.


message 1129: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Frank could not win, nor
could he lose, as Alex’s
loved and hated muse,

for though she was quick
with taunts and mirth, she could not
make him doubt his worth.


message 1130: by Guy (last edited Jul 29, 2012 06:45PM) (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Her ambivalence
was what made a muse become
all but frank with her.

Her frankness became
to him an ambivalence
that left him wanting.


message 1131: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Driven almost to
distraction by his lush hair
and peppermint breath,

She made it look like
she wanted action, then teased
him nearly to death.


message 1132: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Yikes, M, that was fast! And funny!


message 1133: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Alex (Al) wrote: "Nice work boys! I haven't time to reply, M, but I will later. My sister wants an all nighter, so it's horror movies, popcorn, Hamlet acting and weirdness time."

So Al, what exactly is 'Hamlet acting'? Into my mind popped a couple of images, but nothing that conveyed an understanding of what you might mean.


message 1134: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments It's the peppermint
that gives the paddies their edge —
hair is the bonus.

But it's in their eyes
that the leprechaun dances
to leave them panting.


message 1135: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Alex (Al) wrote: "Hamlet acting, Guy, is when my sister and I grab Hamlet off the bookshelf and act out scenes together. It's quite fun! You should see how Han does Polonious or however his name's spelled. It's hila..."

Next time, set up the digital movie camera and upload them to Youtube, because that sounds like fun. I'd love to see you and Han do Polonius and Laertes! 'Neither a lender nor borrower be' etc.

I seem to want to apologize for how my Haiku made you feel, but I am not sure it that would be appropriate or not. LoL!


message 1136: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments I don’t know that painting, but I’d recognize the style and Pre-Raphaelite colors of J. W. Waterhouse anywhere.


message 1137: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments And I thought it was two girls acting Hamlet.


message 1138: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Which scene?


message 1139: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Hamlet's '...get you to a nunnery' scene with Ophelia; or perhaps the gravedigger's scene.

Have you seen the Kenneth Branagh movie version?


message 1140: by M (last edited Jul 30, 2012 12:40PM) (new)

M | 11617 comments “Wench,“ Dr. Putnam
pointed, “get thee--“ (shaking, he
was looking his worst)

“you know,” he spluttered,
“to a nunnery--but let
me open one first.”


message 1141: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments LoL!


message 1142: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Thanks, Guy!


message 1143: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments Thank you, Alex! I think this may be my favorite thread.


message 1144: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Al, inappropriate Haiku in this thread is just about de rigeur! LoL.


message 1145: by Hanzleberry (new)

Hanzleberry (doughboyissweet) | 1065 comments HAMLET!!!! :D <3


message 1146: by M (new)

M | 11617 comments A portly nun knocked at
the carved door, and told Frank she
was Sister Babbitt.

Not amused, he glared
at her and swore and told her
to kick the habit.

“You’ve set yourself up
a harem,” she spat. “I’ve heard
you’re a humdinger!”

She softened, “I might
stay for a chat, if you would
make me a stinger.”


message 1147: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Alex (Al) wrote: "LOL

Okay, if you insist.

The opening of
'Nun no More' had brought in young,
supple girls that made

the owner beam las-
civiously. "Get thee," he
said deviously,

to each one of the
girls as h..."


Al, this is RotFL! And I thought you said you had writer's block?! LoL.

And M, what a brilliant follow-up. Still laughing.


message 1148: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments And then there were nuns
tippling the too tall cocktails
disguised with red bras.

'Hum me a few bars!'
cried the player piano
from the pre-punched roll.

He traded zingers
with the singers' cold stingers
ogling the ringers.

After adjusting
their expectations of truth
God was everywhere.


message 1149: by M (last edited Jul 31, 2012 07:50AM) (new)

M | 11617 comments Guy, yours is spectacular--what a scene it sets! It will be hard to follow.

As Sister Babbitt
relaxed, commenting on the
oriental rugs,

letting her hair down,
she waxed loquacious, her prim
sips turning to slugs.

The other nuns, soon
sorely taxed to show restraint,
seemed wild-eyed, on drugs,

and shed their habits,
their modesty axed. “Girls, take
a look at these jugs!

“--at this encyclopedia somebody brought.”

(Sorry. I got carried away. Meanwhile, back at the abbey.)

The abbess frowned. “I’m
concerned. How shall the sisters
fight acedia?”

The abbot smiled. “I’ve
learned they’ve been browsing an en-
cyclopedia.”


message 1150: by Guy (last edited Jul 31, 2012 08:33AM) (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments M, yours is very funny. No, yours is hilarious! That you are able to rhyme your 'Haiku' so perfectly is truly amazing.

Al, have fun with the sitting.

Here's my weak at-work response.


When Sister Babbit
saw Sister Bobbit they both
unsheathed their honed knives.

They eyed the Bishop
who was dressed in drag with his
hands on the nun's thighs

and his eyes ogling
her vivacious unbound chest
while she faked soft sighs.


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