Debate discussion
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Should women be allowed to preach in front of a congregation/be ordained?
Go Riley being a good mod!!*eyes go blank* Wait... i'm a mod too! Which means i should be HELPING!!
Everyone!! DO WHAT RILEY SAID!!
What? She was mod first....
:D
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yeah,one of the best,and so is Riley!!!
Aww thankies!!!now what topic are we on?
oh yeah!
Women should be able to say whatever they want to say! freedom of speech is applied to everyone!
I feel so good...inside. Thanks everybody.What Chan said.
Seriously, discrimination is discrimination no matter who you are discriminating against!!!
YUP!"I am not a label. I am not a girl, or boy. I'm not that girl who won the spelling bee. I'm not emo, or popular. I'm not a tree hugger. I'm not a soup can. Stop labelling me."
-Riley!
OOOOOOO! I want to be a soup can!! jk
I have a bag by Andy Warhol (lass than 3!). It's the Campbell's soup can.
I'm going to steal it from you.
Should women be ordained?Let us try to restore this good debate instead of our lovely discussion on *ahem* soup cans .
But,but,but...*starts to cry*
*starts to cry too, but in exasperation*
Yes women should be ordained. They cannot chose their sex so why be punished for something they had no control over?
Go Maria! Discriminations is what is wrong here! Women can speak whatever they feel is true!
Yes, I agree, but the church likes to follow the good ol' fashioned ideas that women and men play different roles in life and are not equal in the sense that they are different genders with different responsibilities. However, I certainly disagree with this idealogy. Too old fashioned!
no, they just think women are weak and a waste of life. basically. maybe thats exaggerating it a little, but still.
No, that is definitely not true. I've been debating this with some other people and gathering my information and that is definitely not what the Catholic church preaches. DEFINITELY not.
Regardless wof what church teaches what, it is simply wrong to say that women cannot speak out!
WOoooo,Maria...i AGREEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAY!
Emma the Dork wrote: "no, they just think women are weak and a waste of life. basically. maybe thats exaggerating it a little, but still."Well, but that is very wrong. They fully respect and value women and do not think they are a waste of life.
la di dah... don't discriminate...it's not nice.
XD But they think of women like animals. Breeding machines. Not in all cultures, but in a good few. It's just terrible.
I know,all the guys at my school only care about sex,and screwing people. It gets on my nerves.
sex and screwing people are the same thing...I think...I don't know, I haven't done either. ;PAnd that sucks. The boys at my school haven't learned about it...yet. Won't be long.
seriously??????? almost everyone in my class know about it.
Everyone in my class always talks about sex...it's weird.
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I just read a fascinating monologue by Carson Kreitzer. The play is called The Love Song of J. Robert Oppenheimer. I'm going to type the monologue, read by Lilith.***
Lilith: I've heard all this ssssssssomwhere before.
God says
I've got this great idea
I'm going to make a woman
out of dirt
and breathe into her nostrils and look how beautiful
SHE LIVES.
Adam and Lilith, my playthings. I breathed my wet god-breath into their little dirt mouths and look at the mud things walking around naming the beasts, eating the plants.
then Adam says to me LIE DOWN
as if we were both not the same
he says LIE DOWN I WANT TO
and I say, hey, wait a minute here, I'm not saying let's not have fun, but what makes you the one to climb up in top of me? I don't think this is really about sex here I don't think this is about exploring these new bodies with the new wet life breathed in I think this is about you trying to get on top of me
LIE DOWN
I think you want to hold me there
LIE DOWN
He would not stop saying it and his face all red
LIE DOWN
Grabbed both my arms and tried to knock me down in the dirt we'd both come from.
I spoke the sacred name of God and flew up into the sky.
Went off on my own, to the shores of the red sea. Till he thought better of his behavior.
We're learning here, after all.
But Adam
Adam goes to God and he complains
that I will not lie down and God says
What?
Don't worry, little man
I will make you a new one.
I will rip open your side.
and take away from you
since you would not take what I made you the first time.
(and I thought, made You?)
let me rip a piece from you
close to the heart
now I take this dripping bloody piece of you and I make you a woman who will lie down. She will do nothing but lie down.
she will lie down for you.
and to me he says
eat their babies.
They are delicious.
Especially the red-brown marrow in the troughs of their white bones.
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*faints* Wow. So much typing....Oh my Lord.
But I read it all!! Yay me!!*claps hands*
wait wait wait thats actually IN the bible???
Maria wrote: "I just read a fascinating monologue by Carson Kreitzer. The play is called The Love Song of J. Robert Oppenheimer. I'm going to type the monologue, read by Lilith.***
Lilith: I've heard all this..."
Aha. Sorry, that made me laugh xD It makes no sense and doesn't follow the Bible at all. Adam didn't know about sex/lying down until they partook of the fruit, which would mean that even if Lilith existed (which I highly doubt) he wouldn't have been able to know about that stuff until after Eve came along.
Yeah,and God made Eve out of one of Adam's ribs.
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It still doesn't make any sense or go along with the Bible, which is one of the reasons why I doubt that Lilith ever existed. No human being can be turned into a demon. The 1/3 who followed Satan are what we consider demons. Lilith would've just been judged when the time comes. God doesn't just turn wicked people in demons xD And that certainly seems like a ridiculous reason to turn anyone into a demon.
DOES NO ONE CARE THAT I SAW FREAKING CHESTER RENCH?!?!?!
Samantha, please reword that, because I found it offensive and I think others did to. Thanks.
Also, I believe that anyone can debate in any topic. And seeing as I'm mod, you might want to change your views to that too.