Pride and Prejudice
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Book first but after that which film was best?
The BBC version was not slow - just as the book is not slow, at least in my opinion; it is as you said, as a mini-series, showned over the course of 6 weeks, it allowed them more time to develop the plot properly.And i know of no other mini-series - or the 2005 film version, at that - that stopped the country on the last ep: even the English Parliament closed session early in order for them to go home and see the end of this stunning,spectacular series.
The Kiera Knightley version is my favorite. I loved how they did it and the music in it is amazing! One of my favorite movies :)
I really really like the book... nothing can top the book of course... As for the movie, I like the BBC version better and in the 2005 version I only like Jane... the rest of the crew... don't like it... I don't think 2005 version goes accordingly to the book. I won't watch it again. But I can watch many times for the BBC version though. :D
You only liked Jane????!!!! Lizzy is by far the best.
The 2005 version with Matthew MacFayden, definitely!He's the best Mr Darcy of the cinema ;)
I made a broadcast about the 3 big movie adaptations of this book, so I'm really giving my conscious opinion :)
The BBC version, it's what got me to read the book! And it's actually pretty close to the book, I liked that. It is a little slow, but then, I've seen plenty of other British shows so I could handle it. The only real problem with it to me is that Mr. Darcy looked like a stalker, the way he kept staring at Lizzie. But still a really good adaptation to me.
Gretchen wrote: "I admit I saw the Keira Knightly version first. However, I tried to watch the BBC version as well since I really admire Colin Firth's acting. However, I could not sit thru it. I found it lagged at ..."I haven't seen the Keira Knightley version, mainly because I've only just started appreciating that Ms. Knightley may in fact be a good actress (she was excellent in the recent Freud/Jung movie A Dangerous Method), but I absolutely adore the BBC version of the novel. It's one of the few times where I've seen an adaptation manage to remain absolutely faithful to the spirit of the original work, whilst incorporating enough modern elements to point out the continued relevance of the source material. I'm not sure where you got the sense of 'lag' in the series, as I find it hares along at quite a pace, considering it is a mini-series rather than a standalone movie. I'll have to hunt out the Knightley one now and compare.
I've only watched the 2005 version... and all I can say is that there's this one scene between Elizabeth and Darcy where he helps her onto a carriage. She's like "Oh, goodness. He touched me!" and turns away quickly (I call that a Darcy-ism) and while he's walking away, he does this odd hand twitchy thing. It's so weird how I remember this but it made me love the movie.
I loved both for different reasons. The BBC one because of it's faithfulness to the book, an oh the wet shirt scene which at the time in my late adolescence was HOT. But the 2005 version is just visually beautiful. And there are just so many scenes like the hand one mentioned in #169 where he feels the electricity and is trying to memorise the sensation, and the kissing scene. But I really didn't like the 2005 Mr Bingley, but I felt the 2005 Mrs Bennet got a fairer hearing.
Jiffy wrote: "I saw the BBC first and fell in love with it and Colin Firth! I was convinced there was no way anything could ever top that version, so I refused to watch the Kiera Knightly one for the longest tim..."Exactly!
I wonder if someone saw the movie from 1940?Just curious, it's a funny adaptation :D
No, I haven't. Didn't even know it existed. I'll have to source it out. Thanks for pointing that out, Sofia.
I own the 1940s version with Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier. As far as an adaptation, it is pretty bad, but if you shed all of your Austen purity it is kind of funny.
Mary wrote: "I own the 1940s version with Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier. As far as an adaptation, it is pretty bad, but if you shed all of your Austen purity it is kind of funny."Yes, they didn't respect the plot nor the details. But for me it's more like a comedy. Not bad if you want to entertain yourself :)
Kelly wrote: "Definitely the Keira Knightly version. It was so much more entertaining,and although they condensed the book's plot to fit the average run-time of a movie, it still stayed pretty true to the novel...."I completely agree! everybody says 'the BBC version in better' but I have reason to disagree... especially... Matthew Macfadyen is GORGEOUS!
Marina wrote: "BBC version for me.. I have to wath it at least one a year..Colin Firth willl always be Mr.Darccy to me.. :) The Kiera Knightley version is ok.. but nothing more than that.."Your Opinion but.. i have to strongly disagree with you on that one :)
Karen wrote: "Mary wrote: ...and I bet they would have never had sex either . I think that we try to sanitize life "back then" into something it was most definitely not.To be fair Austen did not sanitize lif..."
Anne Rose wrote: "The Kiera Knightley version is my favourite. I found the Collin Firth version to be slow."
It was Lydia who had an elopement with Mr Wickham I think
Gretchen wrote: "I admit I saw the Keira Knightly version first. However, I tried to watch the BBC version as well since I really admire Colin Firth's acting. However, I could not sit thru it. I found it lagged at ..."Keira Knightley Version all the way.... LOVE Matthew Macfadyen!!! <3
box5angel wrote: "I still haven't read P&P. I adore and love the '05 version and I love watching Keira and Matthew together. I love this version so much that I have no desire whatsoever to see the '95 version. Or an..."Watched it just about everyday for about a year and still not fed up... LOVE MATTHEW MACFADYEN xx
Mia wrote: "The 2005 one is my favorite. I watched it right after I finally read the book for the first time and it captured all my favorite parts perfectly.I think my biggest beef with the 95 version is tha..."
Totally agree.... I love Matthew Macfadyen (Must have said that about 5 t
imes now)
Leslie wrote: "The soundtrack for the 2005 version is amazing..."I am learning it on the piano.... bought a book specially xx
I absolutely adore The 2005 version.... I watch it everyday... no jokes, I am in Love with Matthew Macfadyen and he is the only Mr Darcy in my eyes... Colin Firth annoys me and The 2005 version made my heart flutter despite some missing parts, I am even learning the soundtrack on the piano I love it so much xx :)
bbc - 1996 - watched it before I read the book and many times after, excellent!!!
I have watched all the versions of Pride and Prejudice (well that I know), 2005 film is my favourite and the greatest to me. Yes, it is not exactly like the book but it adds colour, texture and fun for viewers. Matthew plays Mr. Darcy very well.
I definitely prefer BBC's version. Actors,in general,are better. I find it more authentic and book-like(the scenery,dialogs,costumes). The biggest flaw of the 2005 movie is Kiera Knightley. Her portrayal is nothing compering to Jeniffer Ehle's and it doesn't suit Lizzy's character from the book. Elisabeth is very opinionated and sarcastic even,but she lived in time and society very different then ours,which Kiera didn't portray. Elisabeth is smart, but never rude or disrespectful. Kiera is quite the opposite. She acts more in a manor of a spoiled,pouty 21st century teenager,which is more like Lidia's behaviour. Scenes in the 2005 movie are spectacular,very visually impressive, but for me, it is too much of special effects.
Another thing I was bothered with was Bingley's sister and forgotten other sister. It's ridiculous. Caroline is so modern and lacks in sarcasm,pride,and above all class. And I know Mr. Hurst(other Bingley's sister) isn't extremely important character but adds to the story and image of whole Bingley family (like Mary Bennet for example).
Wickham's character in the 2005 movie also lacks some important characteristics. He' to mellow,has no presence,no charm,he's just pretty,which isn't Wickhams main characteristic.
There are some good thing in the movie,like Mr. Darcy. I love Colin Firht,but Matthew did an amazing job. He made it his own,but stayed very close to character from the book. He is definitely above all the other in the movie. Also,he's gorgeous :D (so is Colin,so hard to choose XD).
I also like Mrs. Bennet. Brenda Blethyn is fabulous actress. I like other sister,too. Especially Jane. Bingley and Mr.Collins are also fine.
Even though there are some good things in the movie, BBC's version has everything that I imagined while reading the book.
I like the Colin Firth Jennifer Ehle version. I have not bothered to see the Keira Knightley version.
Mary wrote: "I own the 1940s version with Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier. As far as an adaptation, it is pretty bad, but if you shed all of your Austen purity it is kind of funny.""shed all your Austen purity" LOL, I love it!
I didn't like that the 2005 one skipped so much of the book. I absolutely loved the one from 1995.
The 1995 version of the movie was good.
In my mom's words (picture a Japanese accent) "The movie is the readers digest version, the series has a lot more detail and story. Plus Colin Firth is hot". And that is pretty much my opinion too. Other than Mr. Bingley, Caroline, Kitty and Lady Catherine, I found the actors/characters leaving me wanting a little more.
There is an Indian take on Pride and Prejudice called Bride and Prejudice for another take on the same theme.
The BBC version. I tried watching the Kiera Knightly remake and I just couldn't stand it.
I liked Keira Knightly in The Duchess. Have not seen her in Pride and Prejudice. She is no Jennifer Ehle.
I definitely vote for the 1995 BBC version. I had read Pride and Prejudice in school, and wasn't a fan of that type of writing at that age. But after my aunt introduced me to the mini-series I completely fell in love with the story, characters, costuming, and locations. That led me to give Jane Austen's books another try, and I really appreciate her writing now. My love of period dramas today is a direct result of watching the BBC Pride and Prejudice mini-series.
I doubt that would have happened if I had watched the 2005 movie version. The 2005 version is a mediocre movie, and I would sooner sit and watch the entire mini-series all over again (despite the slow pacing in parts).
Marina wrote: "BBC version for me.. I have to wath it at least one a year..Colin Firth willl always be Mr.Darccy to me.. :) The Kiera Knightley version is ok.. but nothing more than that.."
Colin Firth was the perfect Darcy! <3
Colin Firth was the perfect Darcy! <3
Alannah wrote: "I've only watched the 2005 version... and all I can say is that there's this one scene between Elizabeth and Darcy where he helps her onto a carriage. She's like "Oh, goodness. He touched me!" and ..."Exactly--one of my favorites and one of the points where the 2005 was especially well done. I also like Mr. & Mrs. Bennett so much better in the 2005 movie. But, for the rest, I think I like the BBC mini series better, especially the lesser characters.
The BBC version is the best. It is authentic and holds closely to Austen's work. I thought the Keira Knightley film was a poorly done and butchered the story.
I loved the film version of "The Portrait of a Lady" a book by Henry James. The film has Nicole Kidman and John Malkovich in the main roles. Another book adaptation I really liked is "Rebecca" book by Daphne Du Maurier and the film version was of course directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Main roles are played by Ingrid Bergman and Sir Laurence Olivier. I really loved this two!
Ricardina wrote: "I loved the film version of "The Portrait of a Lady" a book by Henry James. The film has Nicole Kidman and John Malkovich in the main roles. Another book adaptation I really liked is "Rebecca" boo..."
Actually, it was not played by Ingrid Bergman... it was played by Joan Fontaine. And you are right, the movie was great! :)
The BBC for me although I did enjoy the 2005 version it will always be Collin Firths MR DARCY for me :)
Colin was made to play Mr. Darcy. He did an excellent job.
Sakura Yue wrote: "Ricardina wrote: "I loved the film version of "The Portrait of a Lady" a book by Henry James. The film has Nicole Kidman and John Malkovich in the main roles. Another book adaptation I really like..."
You right that is true it was Joan Fontaine! sorry my mistake.
I just have to add, with respect for the people wondering if lizzy and Darcy would have had sex, I would say that ending sounds out of character for the book...not because those two were perfect people, but because the book clearly draws a line between their characters compared to the people around them for instance wick am was clearly a foil for Darcy and to suspect that he would immulate wickams behavior in any way is just wrong, nothing to do with morals, everything to do with character
Amanda wrote: "I never said Jane Austen didn't have her characters having sex. But I do think that Lizzie and especially Mr. Darcy would have never sat around outside in their underwear, neighbors or no. You can ..."100 % correct
Mine would be the BBC, but sometimes wish we could create a fantasy team P&P, bits and actors from each production!
Keira Knightley all the way! The Colin Firth version just didn't make me want to keep watching... So I didn't...
Just to let everyone here know, on September 29 (this coming Saturday) at 3:30 AM PST, Turner Classic Movies (TCM) will be showing the 1940 version of 'Pride and Prejudice'. It's a uniquely fun take on the novel and worth checking out if you haven't already.Purists be warned! This version is faithful to P&P's comic spirit but charmingly unfaithful to some of the events and characters.
Set your DVRs now (if you have the channel)!
BBC version. I didn't really enjoy the Keira Knightley version as it just lost the essential feel of the book for me.
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Though for those who are saying the BBC version was stilted/ slow etc etc, I wouldn't be surprised if this is because they watched it all at once. It was a mini series that was shown over a number of weeks the first time it was seen, so the story would have had to be stretched a little to keep people coming back to watch.
But that's only my opinion, not saying anyone else is wrong!