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message 51: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (last edited Sep 27, 2011 06:32AM) (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments You know she said the same thing in the book..my response to that was first off...they had been together since the mid 70's..he wasn't that popular of an author at that point, yes, he wrote for a socialist mag. It would be interesting to see how many neo-nazi's have been bumping off socialist magazine writers in Sweden. You guys must be having a run of it there..she gave the same excuse on why she didn't let his f/b know of the funeral arrangements and why she kept anything related to the funeral quiet.

Also, I guess we have the answer to the will. IMO, it should be the Socialist Party in Sweden who should be really pissed off at this time and wanting to kick SL in the ass for not having his estate in order. To me, if Wiki is believable, it is just looking like he never wanted her to have the $$..Just sayin!

Oh, and I didn't realize in Sweden that you have to live in the same place from birth to death..moving isn't allowed. Also, if a neo-nazi really wanted to kill SL, couldn't they have just monitored his office at the magazine and gotten him there???


message 52: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I get more a feeling of a couple of hippy types that see the world a bit differently, to put it mildly. Eccentricity of SL and EG just shouts at me through all of it. Yes, there are serious things happening in this world. Look at this summer in Norway. But goodness, it all reads more SiFi than anything. But all history now - let them fight on for the spoils of fame. I doubt I would read a book put out after all the media hoopla. I actually enjoyed the three very much but don't see where else the characters could go! Books are very long wordy books. One school of thought is that the three were the 4 and so on. AND hey, even with all that, a will is a will, both had a hand in that lack of planning and activity......


message 53: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Right..hey, did you get that book I recommended to you? did it go to the right place?


message 54: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Got the tip and yes, added to my TBR .....sent a thank you but think it went astray. Not that good with this site yet.
Looks interesting but may be awhile before I get it ordered and read. My pile is just silly high and having just started with iPad now have books galore on there too!!! Not the quick good reader you are sadly. Usually only get through 23 - 35 a year but imagined in retirement I would do better. Not so far!
Thanks very much Naomi. S


message 55: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments I figured Larsson had a decalogue in mind, as per the founders of the genre.


message 56: by Dave (last edited Sep 27, 2011 02:04PM) (new)

Dave | 44 comments James wrote: "I figured Larsson had a decalogue in mind, as per the founders of the genre."

According to http://scandinavianbooks.com/crime-bo... that was the plan.

"For years he labored, and wrote three finished books constituting a tightly knit whole, drafted a fourth and outlined volumes five and six. Ten books, that was his plan, like the grand masters of Swedish crime fiction, Maj Sjöwall and Per Wahlöö, and as Hakan Nesser in his series about Van Veeteren after them."


message 57: by Dee, the Insanity Check (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 652 comments finally started The Hypnotist - yeah, i know, i'm a bit behind


message 58: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Yeah, no kidding...didn't we say buddy read in September?? lol


message 59: by Dee, the Insanity Check (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 652 comments its still september according to my calender!! lol!


message 60: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments LOL!!


message 61: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments Yeah, that hiding from the bad guys thing is absolutely ludicrous.


message 62: by Beth (new)

Beth Harati | 6 comments Just got my copy of Lucifer's Tears from the local bookstore. I think I may have sparked some interest in Nortic Noir in the ladies that own the store, specifically Jim's books. I am finishing In the Sanctuary of Outcasts then I will read Lucifer's Tears. I guess I am weird but I have to read one book at a time.


message 63: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments Thanks! I don't know it you all realize this, but authors think like this: one person that buys your book and likes it tells ten people. So every book sold is a personal victory. And we value librarians and especially independent booksellers above all. If they like our work, they tell dozens or hundreds of people. They are our best friends.


message 64: by Larry (new)

Larry (larrypod) | 3 comments Has anyone read anything by Jussi Adler-Olsen? I don't believe many of his books have been translated from Danish.


message 65: by Sharon (new)

Sharon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussi_Ad...

All I can find is the one translation, by two names ....hope this helps.

The Keeper of Lost Causes ....same book as Mercy....


message 66: by Larry (new)

Larry (larrypod) | 3 comments Thanks. I have The Keeper of Lost Causes on my list.


message 67: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Just reminded me to download to Kindle on my iPad....
I am getting so many tips on this great Goodreads that I am starting to just download rather than add to the list....just too long! Now for some reading time....


message 68: by Cuppa Joe (new)

Cuppa Joe | 10 comments Just finished The Troubled Man.


message 69: by Sharon (last edited Sep 29, 2011 09:27AM) (new)

Sharon Totally enjoyed SNOW ANGELS...sorry to have to wait for Lucifer's Tears. Very good twists and did not want to put the book down second half. Enjoyed the husband wife dealing with mixed marriage very much too. Could really relate to that. Very good read.


message 70: by Beth (new)

Beth Harati | 6 comments James wrote: "Thanks! I don't know it you all realize this, but authors think like this: one person that buys your book and likes it tells ten people. So every book sold is a personal victory. And we value libra..."

Not to mention the fact that with our social media connections like Facebook, the word spreads even broader and faster than before.


message 71: by Ellen (new)

Ellen (elliearcher) I just finished (and loved) Jo Nesboe's The Snowman. I'm now reading The Redbreast, downloaded from the library, but I'm confused. So far, the contents seem to match Headhunter-could the library have made a mistake? Is it a different translation?


message 72: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Finished The Return of Captain John Emmett which I liked a lot, a very well written historical mystery and am now reading A Bitter Truth: A Bess Crawford Mystery and about to start Where the Shadows Lie.


message 73: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Ellie wrote: "I just finished (and loved) Jo Nesboe's The Snowman. I'm now reading The Redbreast, downloaded from the library, but I'm confused. So far, the contents..."

They are two different books, so the library must be mistaken somehow.


message 74: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Ellie wrote: "I just finished (and loved) Jo Nesboe's The Snowman. I'm now reading The Redbreast, downloaded from the library, but I'm confused. So far, the contents..."

@ Diane..good to know cuz I am getting ready to read The Headhunters...that isn't even a Harry Hole book. Redbreast is a mix between hf/crime, IMO, so it is totally different.


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message 76: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments Why do you have to wait for Lucifer's tears? It's in just about every store, both brick and mortor and online, and most libraries stock it. Best, Jim


message 77: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Reading Where the Shadows Lie. Has anyone else read this?


message 78: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Marjorie wrote: ""Probably the reason why he never married her..maybe it wasn't sloppiness..maybe he deep down knew.."

I haven't read her book, so I don't know how she comes across as a person. But I just wanted ..."


But then that is their choice not to marry. If you make that choice, then you prepare in other ways for your "future".

My belief, is that she is using this as an excuse. As I had mentioned earlier, there has been no rash of assassinations of Socialists in Sweden and, again, if they were that concerned, did they live in the same place for 30 years and never leave it..she clearly states that they traveled openly, so that is out the window..and one would assume that as an editor of a magazine, he had an office in the building.

Also, it doesn't say who found the will. We don't know if she is the one saying there was a will. Just they found one and that it wasn't witnessed. SL doesn't come off as a stupid man.

I found these two websites which gave some really interesting information.

http://www.stieglarsson.com/discussio...

http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/stie...


message 79: by Sharon (new)

Sharon James wrote: "Why do you have to wait for Lucifer's tears? It's in just about every store, both brick and mortor and online, and most libraries stock it. Best, Jim"

Well, in my case, I had ordered a few Amazon Germany and some were not ready for awhile so Lucifer's Tears was caught in the maze. This made me revise my order. Also, now that I am into the Kindle FINALLY, there will be some ordering and stocking changes!! Thanks for the reminder to go check. S


message 80: by Ellen (new)

Ellen (elliearcher) Diane wrote: "Ellie wrote: "I just finished (and loved) Jo Nesboe's The Snowman. I'm now reading The Redbreast, downloaded from the library, but I'm confused. So far..."

Thanks Diane. No wonder there's no Harry!


message 81: by Fizzycola (new)

Fizzycola Oh, The Redbreast does have Harry Hole in it! Headhunter doesn't.


message 82: by Ellen (new)

Ellen (elliearcher) Yeah, that's what I meant. :)


message 83: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments Yeah, I think Lucifer's Tears comes out in Germany in November. I think the German title is Toten-Winter.


message 84: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ The Taker Just started this and I am loving it.


message 85: by Ellen (new)

Ellen (elliearcher) Snow Angels
I'm a little late but I just joined the group. I found the opening painfully slow and the next chapter only a little better (but better, at least). Is it just me? Does it start slowly & increase speed as it moves along?


message 86: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments I read it a long time ago, but I don't it starting off slow. Could be though..wasn't there alot of character introduction in the first part of it. I thought it was intense though.


message 87: by Ellen (new)

Ellen (elliearcher) I think you nailed it for me-I tend to be very character-focused so that would be disorienting for me. Thanks. I feel re-inspired.


message 88: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (last edited Oct 02, 2011 04:36PM) (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments This is a series...so he spends alot of time introducing Vaara...He is a pretty complex character on many levels


message 89: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Snow Angels.....But time well spent. To me the descriptive of Finland -social, culture, weather was as necessary and interesting as the build and introduction to Vaara and what makes him tick. Reading the teaser for Lucifer's Tears just flowed and I feel quite in tune with the people and place now. Ready for more... Also why I prefer to read books with a main character, from start to finish for character development and history. There was only one ? I had re Serbs and ICC....that was corrected by the writer later on though.


message 90: by Rachel (last edited Oct 03, 2011 09:14AM) (new)

Rachel Cotterill (rachelcotterill) Diane wrote: "Reading Where the Shadows Lie. Has anyone else read this?"

Yes, and I enjoyed it, though it's a very different feel to a lot of the Scandinavian fiction IMO. Not so dark. I've downloaded the second in the series, though I haven't read it yet.

I think Naomi has it on her list, too...


message 91: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Rachel wrote: "Diane wrote: "Reading Where the Shadows Lie. Has anyone else read this?"

Yes, and I enjoyed it, though it's a very different feel to a lot of the Scandinavian fiction IMO. Not so da..."


While I found the characters interesting and the Icelandic tales somewhat fascinating, I thought he went into too much depth with them and they kind of swallowed the plot. It was like a diversion that kept me from following the plot in a linear fashion. Did like it though and you are right, it had a completely different feel to it than the usual nordic novels.


message 92: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Diane wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Diane wrote: "Reading Where the Shadows Lie. Has anyone else read this?"

Yes, and I enjoyed it, though it's a very different feel to a lot of the Scandinavian fiction..."


I was going to make a comment about you and I reading yet another book at the same time, but I haven't started it yet. I will read it all at once later this week.


message 93: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Will be waiting to compare. We are usually pretty close on rating too, though we have a few differences.


message 94: by Susan (new)

Susan (susanthomas) I'm jumping in w/o reading all of the earlier comments...I hope that's allowed. Just joined today and thought I'd post who I am and what I've read. all the Larsson books, the first three translated Harry Hole books by Nesbo, and now onto Faceless Killers, first Wallander book by Mankell. Who else has read Nesbo?


message 95: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments I enjoy Nesbo, not as much as some of the others though...I am currently reading his book The Headhunters.


message 96: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Thomassw wrote: "I'm jumping in w/o reading all of the earlier comments...I hope that's allowed. Just joined today and thought I'd post who I am and what I've read. all the Larsson books, the first three translat..."

Welcome....
All that are translated into English and absolutely love the tormented Harry Hole. Headhunters was interesting as a stand alone.
Just reading Faceless Killers myself. Had started H Mankell's Wallander books in the middle, very unusual for me but with all the excellent tv dramas and new books by HM have had to wait til now to go back and catch up.


message 97: by Susan (new)

Susan (susanthomas) Sharon wrote: "Thomassw wrote: "I'm jumping in w/o reading all of the earlier comments...I hope that's allowed. Just joined today and thought I'd post who I am and what I've read. all the Larsson books, the fir..."

Hi, Sharon. I purposely postponed reading the next Harry Hole book, the Redeemer, so I would be able to make them last longer. I love Hole's character, too, and I know I'll be lost when I've finished all the series. I have Headhunters but b/c it is a stand alone, I decided it could wait a while. Typically, the darker the setting and the more flawed the main character, as long as he's strong and committed, the more I like the book.


message 98: by Nidia (new)

Nidia (ninio) | 57 comments Have Headhunters on my TBR list and will get to it soon.

I've read all Larsson's, Nesbo's, Mankell's Nesser's and of course James Thompson's books.... any other series you would recommend I tackle next? My favorites were Nesbo's and James'.


message 99: by Dave (new)

Dave | 44 comments You might try Arnaldur Indriðason. His Erlendur series is good, although lacking the intensity of Nesbo or James.

I also love Karin Fossum and her Inspector Konrad Sejer!


message 100: by Nidia (new)

Nidia (ninio) | 57 comments Thanks Dave! Will read reviews on both and decide! ;)


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