John Ringo

[Pax]

Discuss.

[mark, personal space invader]

Pax, you start!

[Pax]

Oh! Ringo, NO!

need I say more?

[Guido]

I love his work. I got hooked when I first read "There Will Be Dragons."

[Traci]

I always pause infront of his section in the bookstore. They look like something I'd be interested in. But there are so many I get overloaded. Any recommendations?

[Guido]

As I said, I loved "There will be Dragons" and it is the beginning of a series, so I think it is a great start to get introduced to his work.

[Pax]

Hard to go wrong. If you fear commitment you can start with the standalone The Last Centurion or the trilogy, Live Free or Die,Citadel: Troy Rising II, and The Hot Gate: Troy Rising III

Also good, but more books in the series, Into the Looking Glass and I believe there are four total in that series, TWO GUN MOJO! BELIEVE IT!

[Pax]

The Paladin of Shadows series isn't really sci-fi, but worth a mention. It was the series that inspired the "oh Ringo No!" quote from earlier. It begins with and they are a lot of fun to read. I did get a bit tired of hearing about the beer by the last book, but all's well.

It was because of this series, that I felt comfortable having a bit of slightly freaky sex in my story, but still putting it out as mainstream and not erotica. Well...maybe a bit more than a bit...

[John]

Love him.

The live free or die books (going to be 5 total) is a real feel-good kind of story.

Legacy of the aldenata's main story line is great, the side storys......not so much.

[Guido]

I think I'll have to give "Ghost" a spin some time.

[John]

The Ghost series, is the only one that I havent read. I prefer to watch my porn rather than read it.

[Pax]

John wrote: "The Ghost series, is the only one that I havent read. I prefer to watch my porn rather than read it."

There's actually more gun porn than the regular kind. Racier stuff can be found in your average romance novel. I think it sticks out because you don't normally find it in that genre.

[Sarah]

Hi I'm new to the group and this is actually my first post. I just had to see "which Ringo" you guys were fawning here. I'm not going to comment on my feelings about Ringo's SF/F stuff but I definitely will comment on the Ghost/Kildar series.

Oh. My. Gawwwwd. Personally, I think Book 4 of this series (Unto the Breach) is quite possibly the absolute BEST piece of writing John Ringo has ever put out. When I said this to him in 2006, he said he thought so, too, because of how complex the plotting of that book's combat and battle scenes were--and he writes the absolute BESTEST crunchy munchy military stuff.

The first book, Ghost, is LOL (side splittingly outloud) absurd. It was supposed to be. It was never EVER meant to be taken seriously. The fact it's well-writen obviously confused people and the fans started taking it seriously. And wanted more.

In Book 2, Kildar, John spawned the real feel of the series by creating a warrior people with whom he could make war on the world's Evil.

Throughtout the entire series, John fulfills every last male fantasy out there--sexual, aggressive, techno-lust, you name it. He also tells a superduper boots-on-the-ground style milfic story. It's fantasy in that this series is "alternate reality" and the Keldara (people he creates in book 2) are makebelieve people in whom he infuses all kinds of mythologies. But this is a MILFIC series above and beyond all the rest of it.

The sex really bothers some people (both male and female people) but I'm a Romantic Suspense author and write some much edgier stuff than Ringo got into with his blowjob fixation and repetitive rape (for pay, which isn't really a rape if it's a whore and you pay her 10 times her normal fee) I've written a SciFi Thriller writer as well (coming out in December...ghods willing) and I have this set of rules:

1. If you have sex, then you die
2. If you have great sex, then you die horribly
3. If you have mindblowing sex, then you die by imploding

:-)

I'm not really bothered so much by Ringo's little adventure into talking about BDSM-y stuff. He never actually got my head (as a reader) into the Scene so it never really had any effect. As a Romantic Suspense author, I never close the bedroom door on my sex scenes but only use them to do character development. John didn't even do that with his sex scenes. IMO. YMMV.

There were a lot of people who felt the sex in John's Ghost/Kildar series "interrupted the story" and they skimmed past it. I have to say, since it didn't develop the characterizations or further the plotlines much (except for the Gretchen scene in Book 4) I'm not really sure why he bothered putting it in there. I laugh at his sex scenes, most of the time, cause hoenstly, it's pretty funny stuff. If you can get over inhibitions anyway. Okay, chuckle worthy anyway.

I HIGHLY recommend the series. Wish he'd finish it. He originally planned 10 books but only wrote 5 of them.

-sry
p.s. :: waves :: Hi everyone ^_^ I'm doing wrong again, huh?