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ANCIENT HISTORY > ARCHIVE - 8. HERODOTUS - THE HISTORIES~BOOK IV/SECTIONS 106-205 (11/03/08 - 11/09/08) ~ No spoilers, please

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message 1: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Hello Everyone,

For the week of November 3rd through November 9th, we are reading approximately the next 50 pages of Herodotus - The Histories.

This thread will discuss the following book and sections:

(Book IV - Sections 106 - 205)

We will open up a thread for each week's reading. Please make sure to post in the particular thread dedicated to those specific chapters and page numbers to avoid spoilers. We will also open up supplemental threads.

NOTE:

In the Penguin Edition, Book IV, section 106 starts on page 275 and goes through section 205 which concludes on page 310.

This thread should only deal with these sections and with Book Four (although previous parts of Herodotus already discussed can be referenced). No spoilers, please.

Discussion on these sections will begin on November 3rd..

Welcome,

Bentley

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This thread is officially opened. Sorry for any delay; different schedule today - at dentist.


message 3: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (last edited Nov 03, 2008 01:26PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Not sure about that. I have had a few issues lately (more than I have had my whole life) ; but overall I guess I am blessed.

It is too bad that a stepmother had such horrible connotations even then; there are many stepmothers who are not like Cinderella's stepmother but who do a great job. I wonder if Herodotus had a stepmother; it seems like he is talking from first hand knowledge.


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Gee maybe I should try this to cure my sinus problems (lol) although it sure sounds sketchy.


message 5: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (last edited Nov 05, 2008 07:38PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Oldesq, look on page 72 of this old Medical Record was interesting in relationship to your question. Here is the link I hope it works.

http://books.google.com/books?id=VSUC...


Also, they applied essential oils to their temples as well:

http://krishnastore.com/frankincense-...



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Response to Message 6:

Oldesq, if you get a chance to look at the old Medical Record I posted in Message 8; Herodotus is referred to; this record is extremely old in its own right in terms of modern medicine but it seems to confirm that cautery was used ( a form of it).

Response to Message 5:

I wonder if not being raised by your birth mother changes the personality and development of these men who ran for president or the winner. And it is interesting that having a child was such a dangerous process in these times.


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I've had little time to catch up, just running all day and night it seems. But I did read a bit. One thing that impressed me, again, was the story of the women who trick the guards and get the men out of prison. Again and again, there's this theme, that women are smarter than men. I guess Penelope tricked all of those suitors so it's not a new theme, but it impresses me as women are supposed to have so little respect in these times.

Also, I thought it interesting that the island of Thera was seen as an exceptionally beautiful place. It's modern name is Santorini, and although I've never been there the many, many photos I've seen seem to atest to it's beauty. This is the volcanic island that is thought to have exploded which led to the destruction of the Minoan civilization.

I went to an OI dinner at a Turkish restaurant last night. I mentioned that we were reading H at the rate of 50 pages a week, meaning at a leisurely pace. The woman I was talking to, a docent at the OI for 30 years, said 50 pages a week was a lot for H! She also asked if I'd seen the English Patient yet, and if not I should. Down the table a woman called out "Do I hear someone speaking H name in vain?" I really felt I was in my element! LOL!


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I also wondered what happened to the women but I did infer that they just let them off as they were not what they wanted. But, it is a good point, it would be generous to let them off. Maybe they were not seen as a threat or valuable in any way, almost as though they'd left animals or decoys behind.


message 9: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 67 comments #8 - The medical article was great. I was confused by this section as well.

Did I miss something here. Why are the Persians suddenly retreating? No battle ever took place. The Scythians did attack the Persians when they were foraging for food but that is all. Did they just run out of provisions? It seems like the battle strategy was not very well thought out here.


message 10: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Hi Sarah, glad you liked the medical article. I found it interesting too. Google has scanned a number of older reference materials which are a wonderful resource as we have found in this case while reading The Histories and learning about Herodotus.

Glad you are with us on this long journey with H.

Bentley


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