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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

PLEASE REVIEW MY STORY'S START!

http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/2...


message 2: by Rea (new)

Rea Before I start, let me point out that I give constructive criticism. This means I don't praise your work as perfect, I give you hints on how to improve it. Please note that any examples I give should not automatically be used, they are just examples to try to illustrate my points as I don't know how much you know about the writing process.

You have a tendency to tell, not show. You need to do it the other way around. I'll try to give you an example of tell versus show.

"Dallas crouched on the ledge, the castle wall extending in both directions to the turrets that marked the corners of the courtyard."

Do you see how this shows you that the ledge is part of the castle wall rather than telling you that it is?

Do you really mean deep slow breaths? With the adjectives in that order you're creating a taxonomy and I doubt that's what you really want to be doing. (In this case, deep slow breaths as opposed to deep fast breaths, for example, but not as opposed to light shallow breaths). Adjectival ordering is very specific and different orders mean different things. I'm actually surprised that you went for this order as it's not the natural order. The natural order here is slow deep. If you want me to explain the taxonomy I'll try to do so but it's complicated so I'll only go into it if you really think it'll help you.

You have a couple of sentences with no verb. Read your work aloud to yourself and you'll see where you've gone wrong.

Your biggest problem is telling rather than showing.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Telling rather than showing?


message 4: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay, well...
Thank you...


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

Whoa...
Telling not showing.
My English teacher says that a lot.


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah, I tell too much....

So is here anything I did right?


message 7: by Rea (new)

Rea It's hard to explain. But you tell the reader what's happening rather than showing them.

You're not as bad as some, trust me, I've read things where it's just a long list of actions. And you don't give an info dump, that's also good.

Some basic differences:
"She was hungry." - telling
"Her tummy grumbled." - showing

"The flower wilted before her eyes." - telling
"As she watched yet another petal broke off and floated gently down to join the growing pile at the base of the vase." - showing

See? Do you get the idea behind it?


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

You have a good story build. Plot and all...
Vocab is good.


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, I don't always "tell", do I?
Is it just once or twice or...?


message 10: by Rea (new)

Rea I read the old version. I'd need to reread the new one. I'll do the first paragraph quickly:

Be careful with similies. They're ok in small quantities but can quickly become oppressive.

You've put deep slow breaths again. :/ I am honestly confused as to why you would choose this order over slow, deep breaths.

Shutting out the snow and the wind - a bit clunky coming at this point in the sentence. Consider rephrasing or changing the punctuation.

His enhanced eyes - telling. Show they're enhanced before detailing some of what he can see, don't tell.

Seeming to wince - seemed.

Under the pressing cold - preposition use. Against?

It's - its.

His eyes seeing...blahblah - there's no conjugated verb in this sentence. Could be shown better.

including the brass doorknob starting to turn and the door start to sway - I think you can see the problem here on your own.

glinting in the low light - with this structure, Dallas is glinting, not the dagger.

patter - pattern.


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay, well, this is obviously going to be edited with the correct spelling and punctuation.

So for the spelling and punctuation...
:/

But the rest...


message 12: by Rea (new)

Rea I don't get what you're getting at.

Do you not understand the problems that I'm pointing out?

Or do you not want me to point out the problems because you consider this already polished?


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

I took out the piece about e ivy...
Damn, that was useless.


message 14: by [deleted user] (new)

Yes, I understand them, Rea.
And I accept criticism.
I don't consider my stories polished. I know they have flaws.
Very bad ones...


message 15: by Michelle (last edited Aug 25, 2011 05:07AM) (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) Rea wrote: "I read the old version. I'd need to reread the new one. I'll do the first paragraph quickly:

Be careful with similies. They're ok in small quantities but can quickly become oppressive.

You've put..."


whoa. um...ok...that's a LOT of stuff...but besides those that you pointed out, the plot and descriptions of his story are great, the details are awesome, so its just some grammatical errors and the spelling etc. :) other than that, the story as a whole is better than just GOOD.


message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

No, because I tell and don't show.

But Hank you, Pasham.
:)


message 17: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) *big sigh* i know...i just hate all the technicalities of it. writing shouldn't become so complicated...it should just flow naturally..*bleh now i sound philosophical xD*
anytime F :)


message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

Hank you. WTF?!
Anyway, it doesn't flow naturally.


message 19: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) what? O.O
oh shush, its late and i just did a ton of studying, half of what im saying doesn't go through my brain xD


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

No, it makes sense, but, if you read e above comments, you'll see Rea pointed out several times that my writing doesn't flow, because I structure it differently.
Which isn't my fault.


message 21: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) *grumble* yes. BUT, its ur ideas and plot outline and story outline whatnot that MATTERS the most...the rest u can always work on.


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, it's due tomorrow...
And it's not good enough...
:/


message 23: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) have u edited it yet? as in the grammar blah blah blah? if u just did that, then leave the rest, u dun have to change much anyway, its not that noticeable, the story's great enough as it is Francois! >.<


message 24: by [deleted user] (new)

I hope so...


message 25: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) is ur teacher big on those kind of things rea pointed out?


message 26: by [deleted user] (new)

She didn't mention it once.
We're working on smilies and so on...


message 27: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) then she won't notice a thing, 'cept that ur story's brilliant and effing awesome!! >.<


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

Laura is gonna outdo me.


message 29: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) O.O dude, don't tell me she's in the same CITY, SCHOOL and CLASS with you?!!


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Your biggest competition is yourself.
It's a motto at my school.


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Sherihan, your school has a motto for everything.
And, Pasham, yes she is.


message 32: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) *sigh* lucky...BUT BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND!
then she's sort of ur motivation for doing better next time F, dun whip urself too hard, just be happy and proud of ur work and aim to be better next time :)


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

I always do...


message 34: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) then dun give up, u know the standard u have to work for, keep trying till u get there >.<


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

Exactly!


message 36: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) xD


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

{*.*}


message 38: by [deleted user] (new)

*・゜゚・*:.。..。.:*・'(*゚▽゚*)'・*:.。. .。.:*・゜゚・*
Jus' sayin'


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

Shut it, Tonmoy.


message 40: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) what is that anyway?? xD


message 41: by [deleted user] (new)

It's an emoji smiley...
It's built onto my iPad...

ヾ(@⌒ー⌒@)ノ
(^з^)-☆
(=´∀`)人(´∀`=)
m(._.)m
(´・_・`)
(苦笑)<---- LOVE THAT ONE!


message 42: by [deleted user] (new)

That last one is soooooo cute!


message 43: by [deleted user] (new)

You know what it says?


message 44: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) I KNOW CHINESE!!! :D:D:D


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

That's Japanese...


message 46: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) it means something like a pained smile or laugh, or like a wry one.


message 47: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) dammit, but its still chinese characters ;D


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

Where'd you learn Chinese?
It's:
(Wry Smile)


message 49: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (phillip_arthur_russell_iv) ...im asian, grew up with it, u know, what from coming from s'pore and everything :P


message 50: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh Ueah...
Yeah....
I remember.
:-P

"Do you know where Singapore is?"
"Do I look stupid? Of course I do!"


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