TWILIGHT HATERS discussion
You know you hate Twilight if...
hahahahahaha! Just kidding! I'm alive!
hahaha, that statement just summed up this group a little.
you really hate twilite if every time u see oh disco ball u thionk " shit edward and winy bitch are making out in a ball and the sun got em"
I think I want to watch Breaking Dawn because after the review I've read it should be full of gore.Anyway, I hate that Twilight gives a bad name to all of us vampire fans. Buffy was a vampire story, True Blood is a vampire story, Twilight is a story of whiny teenagers of the worst kind. I mean, they are nothing like vampires and have nothing vampire-like about them. I haven't even seen a proper fang!
I agree, wholeheartedly, with you, Zelda! Your post reminded me, quite literally, of a blog I recently posted this past week. Since it pertains to the discussion, I figured I'd go ahead a post it here :)Kenyon's Daimons vs. Meyer's "Vampires
So, typically, when it comes to my blog, I’m not one for sharing. Too private of a person, really. As such, most of my posts are quotes, lyrics, one liners, that sort of thing. This post, though, is the exception to that typical rule.
Everyone, and I mean -everyone-, who knows me realizes from jump that I’m a die-hard fan of the multi-faceted, insanely talented author Sherrilyn Kenyon. Now, on the same token, those who know me also understand that I’m an avid hater of the badly written tripe known as the Twilight *choke* “saga,” written by the laughable Stephanie Meyer.
Now, there are literally countless reasons as to why I hate Meyer’s books, and equally endless reasons as to why I love Kenyon’s books. However, pushing all that aside, I thought I’d concentrate on one of the biggest concepts that vary greatly between the Dark-Hunter and Twilight series. Vampires.
That’s right. Lil’ ol’ vamps.
What a fascinating literary creature. What an insanely historical, interesting fictional concept.
Vampires.
Some of the biggest vampire names that come to mind are Nosferatu, Dracula, Lestat (hell, even Louis!), Spike, Angel, the list is quite large, truly. Vampires are creatures that have been popularized in movies, books, and television off and on for decades. They are dark, dangerous, mysterious, compelling and deadly monsters who are considered evil at worst and anti-heroes at best. Fundamentally, they are dark protagonists and terrifying antagonists.
They are not run-through-the-field-barefoot weaklings, despite the fact they are being painted in that very light in the twenty first century.
Thus.
We have Stephanie Meyer’s vampires.
The lead? Edward Cullen.
A vampire who sparkles in the sunlight, who apparently lacks fangs, who’s been a goody-two-shoed vamp his whole undead life. And who, for all intents and purposes, is more a recreated version of Romeo than a deadly creature of the night. Lotta talk, little action.
Then we have Sherrilyn Kenyon’s Daimons.
The lead? Strykerius
Born 9548 BC, Stryker is an ancient Greek demigod who leads an army of vampiric men and women who feed off human souls to artificially elongate their lives and starve off a curse placed on their race countless centuries ago.
Kenyon’s Daimons are brutal killers who view humanity as nothing but cattle. They spawn from an ancient race which was created by the god Apollo. Known as Apollites, they were later cursed by Apollo after his mistress and son were murdered by the very race he created. In retribution for the death of his family, Apollo hexed his race in reflection of what had been done to his loved ones. His mistress died at twenty seven, shredded and savagely ripped to pieces, drained of her blood in the dark of the night.
So. Their curse? To be banished from Apollo’s domain of the sun. To take on animalistic characteristics of fangs, heightened abilities and senses. To only gain sustenance from the blood of other Apollites. And, worst of all, to wither and die painfully on their twenty seventh birthday.
And to avoid that fate, they turn Daimon in order to survive, killing humans so they can capture their souls and avoid the curse. Since souls begin to die immediately after leaving the original body, Daimons require a constant influx of new souls in order to live. Without such, they surrender to their curse and die.
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Now. Shockingly enough, my explanation for Kenyon’s vampires was as cut and dry as possible. It was brief and merely the bare boned basics. And even still, it required roughly four paragraphs of explanation. Which, alas, brings me to my point.
Stephanie Meyer has absolutely no basis of reality or explanation for her vampires. (Yes, yes, I realize that she claims her tales are based on science rather than myth, which is almost as laughable as a vampire without fangs. Proof that just explanation is shite? Visit this link http://fuckyeahtwilightsucks.tumblr.c...).
So now that the science of Meyer’s vampires is completely shredded and proven false, let me continue.
Do not mistake me, please. My extreme irritation for Meyer’s vampire creations stems from a lot of issues, but, even still, I’m not against originality. After all, Kenyon’s take on vampires is completely original. However, there is an actual basis of reality for the paranormal aspects in Kenyon’s world, where as such is pathetically lacking in Meyer’s. The Dark-Hunter world is heavily laced with mythology. This is a very unique concept, truly. And yet, it makes basic, logical sense. As Sherri says, if you look at vampires chronologically, the oldest tales of it go back to ancient Greece. And, on further analysis, Apollo is the god of the sun, curses, and plagues, where as his sister, Artemis (who plays a key role in the series) is the goddess of the moon.
Total creativity and originally, undoubtedly. And yet, still, Kenyon understands the primary appeal of vampires, and more importantly, the key elements of vampire lore. Fangs. Predatory natures. Killers. Corruption. Power. Things you just don’t monkey with when it comes to this type of supernatural entertainment. Most, most especially when you’re trying to deliver your novel on the back of the paranormal genre and character title of "vampire." If you want to write a character-driven, regurgitated story about forbidden love and a love triangle, fine. Paint it on the backdrop of a high school setting and young love, as Meyer did, just like everyone else. But don’t incorporate vampirism if you’re going to slaughter the lore from prologue to epilogue.
Meyer has taken the entire concept of vampirism and eliminated the primary elemental facets. It’s perfectly acceptable to be original, but not so much that the basics of a mythical creature becomes lost in “oh, Eddie be purdy!” And that, to me, is one of the most irritating issues I have with the Twilight series. Always have, always will.
:) No kidding! It's pretty damn sad when you can continue a full-fledged rant against a popular book series, and only one of the "reasons being" can be that extensive! How on earth people get sucked into the tripe is beyond me.*Grins* Always nice when I can potentially convert another would-be fan! The DH series is definitely extensive, it's paranormal romance, technically, but Kenyon writes with such profound talent and unique style that even non-lovers of PR can discover great love for the books. There's something in 'em for everyone, really.
Technically, the first book of the series is Fantasy Lover, which is really just a prequel, though, and was written so that Kenyon could "back door" her way into getting this series published. (They were written and launched around the time "vampire" was a four letter word, since the late 90s and early 2000s had been dominated so heavily by Anne Rice, thus the genre wasn't selling like it is now.)
Anywho, if you do decide to read the series, I recommend you start with the book Night Pleasures, since it's where the series launches. If you love mythology and vampires, you'll definitely adore this series. Primarily the books do focus around Greek mythology, but there are references to other pantheons that pop up in later books, such as Sumerian, Celtic, Egyptian, and Roman. They're awesome books, and I love the Dark-Hunter series as much as I HATE the Twilight "saga," LOL.
PS: Currently, there are twenty one books in the series, with the next one (book #22, No Mercy) coming out in September. Here's the correct reading order - http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/3...
That is awesome, Rose! It's rare when I convince someone to try reading these books (simply because all my acquaintances are so picky, LOL), so I'm thrilled to hear you'll be giving them a try!!!You might also be interested to know that, in conjunction with the Dark-Hunter series, Sherrilyn has just launched yet another series this year that is both a parallel and spin-off series story from the DH. The Chronicles of Nick series, book one being entitled Infinity, is her first YA story which focuses on a key character in the DH books; Nick Gautier. There will be eleven books in CON, each depicting a year of this character's life up until he turns 24. Then, after all eleven of those books are written, he will have his own story which will jump back into the Dark-Hunter series.
Technically you can read Infinity before reading the DH books, but I don't recommend it. As with any of her series, you won't be confused reading out of order, since Sherrilyn always reexplains every major concept in each book. However, by starting with the first novel in the Dark-Hunter series, and working your way up, then picking up with book one of the, you'll have more insider information.
Not to mention the fact that, by reading the DH up to date, first, and then Infinity second, you won't risk reading any spoilers or add-ins that come about, which is always a good thing :).
*Smiles* No doubt! The series is huge, at best, so it definitely takes some time to get through. Hope you enjoy the series, though, and if you've got any questions, just ask and/or message me and I'll be more than happy to help. (Being an obsessed nerd can help at times!) Good look procuring all the books, Rose!
omg. those sound pretty dang awesome! i'm going to read them!
*Grins* Hallelujah! TWO potential new readers to the superb Dark-Hunter series :). Could this week get any better, LOL?
That's awesome, Kimathy, that you're going to try out this series! Redundant, I know, but I promise you that they're amazing books and the characters are absolutely addictive. You really get pulled in by all of them, and there are others that leave you dying to learn more about them! :)
Rose wrote: "And so it hath been done!!!Now three people are going to read the Dark-Hunter series because you suggested it!!
Huzzah! It is time for celebration!!!"
*Spontaneously combusts from sheer happiness!*
Rose, darling! You're awesome! LMAO...As are ALL the new potential would-be fans of the series! I hope they, and you, love it as much as I do! Who could've imagined such a good thing could've resulted over my extreme Twilight bashing, LOL.
Rose wrote: "I brought the nachos. lol"Indeed it is! *Busts out singing Celebration by Kool and the Gang*
If you've got the nachos, I've got the Dip N Dots! (Random recent food obsession of mine. They're so addictive, I swear they're laced with crack, *laughs!*)
*Dies laughing!*Aren't they awesome! I nearly lost my cookies (in a good way, LOL) when I realized Wal-Mart started selling 'em! Granted, they're a buck a piece, but still...they're addictive enough to make it worth it!
DIPPIN' DOTS OMGOMGOMGOMG.*cough* Sorry. I haven't had those in SO LONG, but I loooove them. XD
And I think I'll try reading the Dark-Hunter series... I'll have to look into it a little more, but it sounds cool!
Wow! That is absolutely awesome, Nightshade, that you're considering to read the series, too! I blab and gab about this series so, so much but never have I actually been able to convince anyone, outside my own mother, to read the books!*Does happy, Snoopy dance to celebrate!* LOL
Thus! The perfect euphoric combination! Dip N Dots and the Dark-Hunter series, enjoyed simultaneously. I, but of course, am of the opinion that has the makings of an Utopian paradise, LOL!
Wow...there were a lot of exclamation marks in my post :-|. Happiness exploded itself all over the thread, apparently, *laughs.*
You were unable to finish the first book because the writing SUCKED!
If you see a Twilight themed bag in a shop and feel the bile rising up.
Loved that, Zelda!...Incidentally, whenever I pass any Twilight merchandise, be it the tripe-worthy books, or the gag-inducing paraphernalia, it never fails...I always end up delivering a well placed kick to the display. Not enough to knock the thing(s) over, mind you, since such excessive hate-ness has me picturing security and/or drooling Twi-tards descending from the ceiling in effort to eat my soul - or some other various such nonsense, LOL.
But still, a kick nonetheless. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside each and every time :).
my twilight obsessed teacher has a poster, button, shirt, books, lunchbox, candy and both male dolls. they freak me out.
nah, she accepts it, but the students freak out.
Whether you love or hate Twilight, this drunk woman reviewing the movie does make some good points. And it's HIGH-LARIOUS!Check it out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWCGo...
You find yourself rolling your eyes every time someone says something about how hot Edward or Jacob is or how good twilight is Everytime someone says they like twilight, you have to force yourself not to blurt out all the reasons why it sucks and they shouldn't like it
When you disagree with someone who likes twilight, you find yourself saying 'yeah but you like twilight' because you believe this makes their judgement questionable
Frankly, I had an AWESOME Anti-Twilight moment this weekend! This past Saturday, I went to Indianapolis to attend a signing event for the new book release from my absolutely most favored author, Sherrilyn Kenyon. During the signing's Q&A session, one particular fan made the comment to Sherri "thank you for not making your vampires SPARKLE!" After which, I, and almost the entire crowd of over 300 people screamed in agreement and applauded.
It was, in a word, awesome!
Quoting one of my favorite fictional characters here: "Okay, random." (Gotta love Dean!)Hehe, just kidding, Twi-Hater :). Though, did you mean "whoppers" as in Burger King's burger? *Confused*
~Acheron's Akra~ wrote: "Mandie - Love that list!"thanks :)
you know you hate twilight when you...1) feel sick everytime some one mentions vampires
2) surf the net for places to show your hate for the series
3) argue with each and every person(incuding bff) who loves twilight
4)groan everytime you pass a poster of eclipse showing robert pattinson trying to smother bella with his eyes(or does he try to hypnotise the already-brainless-maniac?)
*Laughs* Awesome list, Maniee. Though, for my case, I'd alter number one to "feel sick every time I think of how badly Meyer FUBAR-ed the concept of vampirism." And, speaking of lists, the following are my top eight ways of proving that you, a reader, hates Twilight :)...
1. You dream of Nosferatu & Lestat beating the ever loving shit out of sissy-ass "vampire" Ed-tard Cullen and his menagerie of idgit associates.
2. Count Chocula could whip Edward’s ass and is far more a vampire than the Fangless Wonder :).
3. You so desperately want to replace every Twi-tard’s copy of Twilight with Vampires Suck.
4. You’d rather have your eyes gouged out with rusty spoons than watch vomit-inducing Eclipse.
5. You throw popcorn at fan girls in the theater who scream every time Edward or Jacob appear on screen.
6. (How the dorkified 'saga' should've ended.) "...And then the Winchesters killed Edward Cullen. The end."
7. Exposing yourself to any of the movies and/or books made your eyes bleed.
8. You’re synopsis for the series = Twilight is a four part book series about a girl struggling to decide between bestiality and necrophilia.
*Throws head back laughing!* Too awesome for words! It's both insulting AND creative, LOL.
Phantompickles wrote: "Candy-Rain:Actually, I do know a male fan of Twilight. (Amazing, ne?) While he has expressed his disbelief that I don't LURV the series, any and all arguments we've had were good-natured and ne..."
Is he gay?
LMAO I almost hope so, Jess! Because, frankly, I'm relatively sure any straight man's skin would start boiling off his body were he to actually adore said barf-inducing series - let alone read the tripe.
Lindsay wrote: "LOL that's true. The closest thing a straight guy has ever come to loving vampire romance is watching the movie Van Helsing."I actually made a gay guy a Twilight fan. I had no one to go to the first movie with and I didn't know anything about it at the time, so I went with him. I was really bored, but he loved it!
LOL No kidding, Lindsay! Though, I have to wonder if, perhaps, guys back in the day loved the vampy-evilness of Lestat from Interview With a Vampire. He was a fairly badass vampire - not at all like the Sparkly and Fangless Wonder.
LOL Amen to that!I noted Lestat simply because it's SO obvious that Dracula would eviscerate Ed-tard into Sparkly Mini-Bites that it's without debate.
*Laughs* Then again, I'd love to see Ed-tard get slaughtered by Stryker or Xedrix! LMAO...(Sorry, random fan reference from a book series I read - by an author who actually kNOWS how to write
badass vampire the way they're MEANT to be!)
Holy CRAP that'd be awesome!My three favorite graphics :)...
(Even in seventeenth century clothing AND pastels to boot, Lestat and Louis were more vampire than Ed-tard ever thought about being :) )
But then again, this one isn't bad at all, either :).
And this one!
Okay, okay, okay...I HAVE to stop. I have damn near hundreds of anti-twilight graphics that it's habitually addictive to collection/post them, I swear!
LOL I thought you would :). It's DEFINITELY one of my personal favorites, no doubt!...Though it and the Winchesters make a really good tie. PS: OMG!! LMAO I've seen a lot of messed-with-cover graphics for anti-twilighters, but this one is just plain awesome! Definitely going in my ever growing collection, LOL.
Okay, maybe it's just a bit random, but this is DEFINITELY one of my top picks when it comes to anti-Twilight graphics. I think because of its randomness, and the fact that I grew up watching this movie makes it so funny. You might've seen it already, but it's still awesome!
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