TWILIGHT HATERS discussion
You know you hate Twilight if...
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Jamine Isabel E. Uy, The creative makes-awesome-stuff-for-us one
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hahaha when that happens, I don't just bang my head on a brick wall... I cradle myself in my dark emo corner saying, "think of happy thoughts think of happy thoughts." :P
Btw, I'm not emo... :P I'm a happy girl :P
Btw, I'm not emo... :P I'm a happy girl :P

Also- good to know. I have a dark sense of fashion and morbid humor, but overall, I'm a rather upbeat kind of individual...despite my statements otherwise, :P


It just depends on level of randomness I'm experiencing, the alignment of the starts and planets, and if I discovered stale cheerios in the box that morning for breakfast.


Also, I believe it is spelled 'jealous.' You might want to improve your spelling, Jojo. It could use some work.
And you guys, I have a confession to make. I LOOOOVE TWILIGHT! I love it more than anything else in the whole world! I'm SOOOO jealous of Bella because she gets like the hottest guy EVER and then she gets turned into a vampire (which is TOTALLY awesome) and then she gets to stay with her perfect guy FOREVER! And she's really pretty and smart and if I had her life I would be happy FOREVER! I LOVE TWILIGHT!!!
NOT.
I HAAAATE TWILIGHT! I hate it more than anything else in the whole world! I'm soooo NOT jealous of Bella because she gets like the creepiest guy EVER and then she gets turned into a vampire (which is TOTALLY nightmarish and vomit-inducing) and then she gets to stay with her creepy guy FOREVER! And she's really whiny and lame and if I had her life I would kill myself as fast as I could because I'd rather die than have HER life! I HATE TWILIGHT!!!

I got three words for you, darling.
Grow. A. Brain.
When that happens, then you can return to this thread and we might, perchance, take you seriously.
As of now, you're just plain sad and pathetic.
PS: Thanks Nightshade and Rose for shoving Jojo off. Truly marvelous jobs! Since, after all, ignorance can't ever argue with intelligence. And that's what truly scared Jojo off, no question.

At least by my standards, anywho.


And, if anyone wants to argue- "That's horribly mean, Jacqueline. You shouldn't say that" or "you shouldn't be so rude"...I say T-O-U-G-H!
I "love" how people will yell at those wielding any sort of insults against others who justifiably deserve it, and yet say not jack squat to the instigators. To me, this is beyond the realms of irritating. I don't if others have noticed this happening more and more, but I sure have.

I is sorry :).
LOL And thankfully enough I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it pathetically irritating when people do that! *Does happy snoopy dance around room for no apparent reasson* :D

Heheheheh. I'm a little hyper. I had two cookies already and it's only 10:30 AM. 8D

But either way, hyperness is always fun! It makes for some very fun conversations indeed! :D

Heh, some of the best times of my life have been when me and all the people around me were on an EXTREME sugar high. :D

But either way, hyperness is always fun! It makes for some very fun conversations indeed! :D"
haha, I've had a thirty minute discussion on colorful, fluffy clouds once, because me and my friend were super-hyper. :P

I can't quite remember the conversational context, but it lasted at least 15 minutes and was probably the most entertaining convo. of my life! :) Randomness is so fun
:-P

Hmm. Mine would probably be pushing people off the Empire State Building with Sporks.

If my memory serves me correctly, I believe while I was a freshman in high school, a few friends of mine had an in depth conversation of world domination achieved through the use of sporks! Hehehehe :-P
*Chuckles* There's nothing worse than technical terms :(. They frighten me! LOL

Sorry. After seeing Wall-E, I can never decide. ;D
Also, I had a very interesting conversation about the Big Bang theory/creation/evolution with one of my friends once... on a mission trip... at 10 PM... when we were dead tired and slightly insane... it was intense. It really was. XD
Heh, the next morning, we were like "Huh, I wonder what we actually said..."

Oh, GOD I hate that, too! Whenever you have an amazing, overwhelmingly grand debate/conversation with someone where you were dropping awesome points like it was nobody's business...and then can't for the life of you remember what it was you said! That has indeed happened to me in the past and it SUCKED.
Thankfully, though, the best creation debate I had with somebody was online in the early morning hours. I was arguing intelligent design, they were arguing Big Bang! LOL If it had been in real-time, other than cyber, I'd have NEVER remember my points. *Laughs*

And we didn't exactly FORGET, we were just so out of it that we couldn't remember anything past 3 seconds ago. ;D Seriously, we were folding napkins, and my friend was just folding automatically and staring at the wall blankly... we were like "Hello? Anyone home? Hellooooo?" and it took her like a full minute to notice :D
Heh, that's awesome. Haven't really had a creation/evolution debate, because we were on a mission trip, so, uh, DUH. :)
Eriel wrote: "You people hate no sense to me! How do you hate Twilight. This is like the best book ever. I mean come on. And girls scream because edward cullen is every girls dream. DUH"
Jesus! I do NOT get you people! I mean I am FINE with people liking Twilight, I'm not going to FORCE them to stop. But its gets frikin hard when YOUR PEOPLE keep mocking anti-twilighters when (fucking suprise) YOUR THE CHICK WHO IS IN LOVE WITH A GUY WHO FUCKING DOESNT EXIST!
Jesus! I do NOT get you people! I mean I am FINE with people liking Twilight, I'm not going to FORCE them to stop. But its gets frikin hard when YOUR PEOPLE keep mocking anti-twilighters when (fucking suprise) YOUR THE CHICK WHO IS IN LOVE WITH A GUY WHO FUCKING DOESNT EXIST!

I'm sorry but these books really do annoy me because she's changed it alot and it shouldn't be changed that much, a few minor changes to make them more modern so to say are ok but changing them so they can go out in sunlight and such is not right.

Okay, picture this, people.
You move from your old hometown to a new place that totally sucks. You wish you could've stayed in your old home, but your parents had to move because of a great job offer... so obviously, since you're not a legal adult yet, you're going with them.
You start at your new high school. You're not sure of the people yet, but most of the students seem really friendly and helpful. You even draw the attention of a guy or two (assuming you're a girl, of course).
So you walk into your Anatomy class for the first time, where the room is pretty much full. You're a little intimidated, since you're kind of shy. The only open seat is next to a REALLY hot guy, so you're not exactly disappointed. But when you sit next to him, he acts like you just stabbed his entire family to death. You have no idea why, since you've never even seen the dude before, much less spoken to him.
There are two options. One- the guy is confusing you with someone else, since you've never even talked to him and he hates you. Two- he's seriously messed up (that's why he's the only one without a lab partner).
((Continued in the next post, so it's not any longer than it already is.))

You walk into your Anatomy class again the next day, but the freaky guy isn't there. You're kind of relieved, since he keeps acting like you just ran his dog over with a UPS truck (and you obviously didn't do anything). For the next several days, your life proceeds normally.
But then a week or so later, Freaky Dude is back in Anatomy. You're expecting the usual I-want-you-to-burn-in-H-E-double-hockey-sticks glare, but for some strange reason, he starts chatting you up like you're his new best friend. You think it's really weird (didn't he hate you a week ago?), but you just go with it anyway. Maybe the guy really IS messed up, after all.
The day after that, the guy seems like he's in love with you. Literally. You think he's pretty hot, and he seems nice enough, so you decide to give him a chance. Then, a few days later, he rescues you from a few creepers in town. You're incredibly thankful, of course- no high school girl wants to be cornered by creepers alone at night. But after THAT, you find out that that Formerly-Freaky Dude has been secretly filming your bedroom.
Yes, that's right- before you moved in, he found out that a family with a high school girl was going to reside in that house. So he snuck into the house and planted a hidden camera in the room that was soon to be yours. He records your every move- but no worries, he hasn't seen anything "indecent," since he only records at night, when you're sleeping... at least, that's what he says.
You think you might be in love with Now-He's-Freaky-Again Dude, so how do you react? You have two options.
OPTION ONE: Run away screaming, then immediately tell your parents and call the authorities. There's obviously something VERY wrong with this guy. I mean, really, he is RECORDING YOUR EVERY MOVE. That's definitely full-fledged creepy. You decide to file a restraining order and/or switch schools.
OPTION TWO: You're completely fine with the fact that Freaky Dude has been filming your every move. In fact, you think it's awesome. You continue to let Freaky Dude film you, and then decide to date him and spend all your free time with him, because oh, he's just so worried about you, so he films you! Isn't that sweet?
So what's your choice?

Okay, logically speaking, women love to be protected and pursued, and to some small degree, have men who are slightly possessive and jealous over them. But I stress- only slightly! We want to feel valued and treasured, not owned and treated like we're idiots incapable of caring for ourselves! There is a very careful, fine line between the two, and being watched from a window while sleeping is disturbing as it is insulting.

You walk into your Anatomy class again the next day, but the freaky guy isn't there. You're kind of relieved, since he keeps acting like you just ran his dog over with..."
Hmm.... I pick -
OPTION THREE: Call the neighboring werewolves for help and reside with them until they rip the Freaky Dude and his family apart, no matter what treaty they have.

Second, good idea. Option Three is in the race!

Nice, Grammar Nazi! I'm definitely changing my vote to Option Three! Without question!

Okay, logically speaking, women love to be protected and pursued, and to some small degree, have men who are slightly possessive and jealous over the..."
EXACTLY! I mean, hypothetically speaking, if I had to spend my whole life with one person, I'd want them to be protective... to a certain degree. I mean, there's wanting to take care of someone and be conscious of their well-being, and there's overly possessive freak who controls every single aspect of their spouse's life, including who they're friends with, who they spend time with, what they wear, what they eat, where they go, etc. Gee, does this sound familiar or what?

And yet, this is a classic example of an ass. While I am a die-hard fan of romance novels (historical first, paranormal second), I'm well accustom to heroes with flaws. Heroes who might even be jerks at the initiation of a plot. But throughout the story, they morph, changed by their heroines- each bringing out the best in the other. Idiot Eddie never changes, never grows as a person- the entire persona of his character remains basically the same. He never grows, never learns to back off in his possessiveness, and never grows.
Summed up real quick, fast, and in a hurry? Twilight is a pathetic excuse for not just the romance genre, but the paranormal, too!

A VERY CRUDE SUMMARY OF TWILIGHT
There's this chick named Bella Swan- cliché name already, right?- and she has to move to this little town called Forks. She gets to a new school and a bunch of dudes hit of her on, like, her first day there, even though she keeps calling herself plain and whatnot.
But then she meets some hot dude named Spedwardo- oops, I mean Edward- and they, like, instantly fall in passionate love. So they chill for a while and do some intense face-touching- that's right, folks, FACE TOUCHING- and then they end up going out. For eternity. Because Speddiekins is a vampire.
And he SPARKLES.
People, you have permission to laugh hysterically and/or vomit uncontrollably.

*Spasms into uncontrollable laughter!* DA-YUM, hon, that was beyond comical!!! *Tries not to rupture spleen while laughing*
I think I'm gonna copy/paste that synopsis into my Reflection Notebook. (Nothing major, it's just this binder I keep of my own writing and poems, others quotes, anecdotes, one-liners, song lyrics, poetry, et.)...And any thing else that's comprised of words that I love.
And while I've noticed quite a few of the people who don't like Twilight aren't romance novel fans, it irritates me so much that Twi-Lovers are saying that it's because the haters don't read that genre. Quite frankly, that's utter crap, because here I am- an excellent example of a Romance-Novel-Obsessed Nerd, who can look at that tripe and nearly die of embarssment that Stephanie Meyer-Idgit has the audacity to think she stands in the same league with other amazing paranormal romance authors, such as Author Goddess Sherrilyn Kenyon, or the WARDen J.R. Ward! To me, her books are nothing more than the epitome of what a good paranormal romance should not be. Her works merely give critiques another stone to lodge are this genre, making many believe that said genre houses books just like this!
*Takes deep breath* Call it laughably weird, but it bothers me to no end how popular these books are, when by and large they SO do not justify the hype!!!

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FACE-TOUCHING.
It's pretty intense. 8O
*cough* ANYWAY! Back on topic. I reeealllyyy don't like it when Twilighters are like "Well, you don't understand it! It's amazing!" Yes, I DO understand it, however, I can't understand why everyone thinks it's amazing.
Scratch that- I guess I can. It's somehow really addicting, but when you really look at it, it's badly written. I mean, the story concept has a lot of potential, but Stephenie Meyer TOTALLY screwed it up.
Human + vampire = love?
Okay. Sounds pretty interesting, actually.
Whiny human + sparkling vampire = OMG ETERNAL WUV FOREVER <33333333
...does not work.

I'm in utter agreement with you, Nightshade! The idea of a human female and male vampire is a fundamental building block of paranormal romance today. It's a theme that has wonderful potential, and if done well, can be true art. But ONLY when it's done well- otherwise it's just puke inducing!
I love your formulas!!! *Dies laughing* They are so true to form, and essentially the basics of this literary prank!

...does anyone even say that anymore? Whatever. I'm bringing it back. (No, not bringing THAT. Just, you know- ah, whatever.)
And yeah, I'm a fan of paranormal romance. My favorite genre is sci-fi/fantasy, plus I like romance, so that's cool. Also, I like "clean" romance, because my younger sister always wants to read what I read... and then my mom always asks a million questions to make sure it's "okay for me to read," so I'm a big fan of, uh, "safe" stuff or whatever you want to call it.
Also, I don't think it's necessary to have, uhh, "certain content" to make a romance in a series more "adult" or "mature." I mean, I've read some series where I go "WHOA WHOA TURNING THE PAGE NOW," and that's not fun. Especially when you're trapped in the car and your mom asks how the story is so far, and That Certain Scene is the only thing that's happened so far... like you open the book, hit page 70, and WHAM! THERE IT IS!!
Not that that's ever happened to me before with a certain book in a certain series. -_-

Hm. Come to think of it, raunchy used to be such a common expression! No body uses it anymore! Strange! Never noticed that before, lol. So needs to make a come back, though! Such a great word! (Yes, I'm weird enough to admire words as dorkish as that is!)
Oh, awesome! Always good to hear of other romance fans, of any genre. I was about to suggest an author that you may or may not know of who writes countless amazing series, two of which that you might like are the Dark-Hunter series and the League series. However, since your taste runs to more tame novels in the sex department, I don't think you'd want those. They do contain definite sex scenes, but they're an in between as far as a sensuality rating. They're definitely not on the level of erotica, of course, but they're not PG Face Touching either.
While I agree totally with you, Nightshade, that authors can pathetically overdo the sex in a romance, it takes a good author to know how to handle it. One the one hand, it's absolutely irritating to read a romance and every other chapter seems to be filled with pointless, non-plot worthy, sex. That is SO boring, idiotic, and completely detrimental to romance in general. But, on the other hand, to have a romance with zero sex makes the reader (well, me anyway) feel like a romance novel is just somehow lacking if physical attraction isn't at least reference or noted in a romance story.
Now that's just my opinion, of course. Random though it may be.
However, getting back to the point, I do understand where you're coming from. Having both a sister and mother that are mindful of what you're reading definitely plays its role, lol.

Although I didn't even TRY on the last series I read. Cirque du Freak. It's COMPLETELY AMAZING, but I didn't even try to explain. XD And then, of course, cue my sister: "Can I read it?" Then me and my mom at the same time: "NO." Except my mom was more like "Uh, NO" and I yelled "NO!!" really loudly. Not because it had "certain content" in it, but just because some of it is, um, graphic. Graphic as in graphic violence. o.O''' (At one point he gets his thumb cut off. But then he gets it back. XD)
I admire words, too! Like 'speculation.' Have you ever noticed how funny it is? Speculation. Speculation! SPEEECUUUULAAATIOOONNN
And yeah, I go for more... mild stuff. (See above reference to very curious family members.) I mean, it's not as if I'm like "OMG there can't be ANY "content" in my books WHATSOEVER," but I play it on the safe side. Just because I like to, uh, you know. Preserve my innocence... somewhat. Oh, how I love my friends and their perverted minds. *facepalm*
But other than that... yeah, I like a good romance. Yaaay :D

FACE TOUCHING.
*OMG SO BAAAAD*
I can't believe Bella and Edward are TOUCHING EACH OTHERS' FACES.
I feel so BA for reading about it. 8O
(Also, my sarcasm hand is raised.)

Anybody got any ideas into stopping people from trying to convert you into a 'twitard'as Some of my friends call them. Some people at school are telling me that I should love Twilight because it makes Vampires come to life and make them seem real....
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Anyway, the sentiment's right, though. I really do get beyond the point of annoyed, jumping into a whole 'nother universe of irritated when I hear the GR8ST-ATHOR-EVA rediculam *Rolls eyes and bangs head into brick wall at the sheer thought of said experience*