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Sashana This topic is open for the discussion of Across the Universe by Beth Revis. Be prepared for spoilers!
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Goodreads Description
Seventeen-year-old Amy joins her parents as frozen cargo aboard the vast spaceship Godspeed and expects to awaken on a new planet, three hundred years in the future. Never could she have known that her frozen slumber would come to an end fifty years too soon and that she would be thrust into the brave new world of a spaceship that lives by its own rules.

Amy quickly realizes that her awakening was no mere computer malfunction. Someone - one of the few thousand inhabitants of the spaceship - tried to kill her. And if Amy doesn't do something soon, her parents will be next.

Now, Amy must race to unlock Godspeed's hidden secrets. But out of her list of murder suspects, there's only one who matters: Elder, the future leader of the ship and the love she could never have seen coming.

Format: Hardcover, 398 pages
Published January 11th 2011 by Razorbill


message 2: by Sashana (last edited Jul 25, 2011 03:37PM) (new)

Sashana Chapter Breakdown

Chapter 1: pages 1-13 (Amy)
Chapter 2: pages 14-17 (Elder)
Chapter 3: pages 18-20(Amy)
Chapter 4: pages 21-31 (Elder)
Chapter 5: page 32 (Amy)
Chapter 6: pages 33-47 (Elder)
Chapter 7: pages 48-49 (Amy)
Chapter 8: pages 50-61 (Elder)
Chapter 9: pages 62-64 (Amy)
Chapter 10: pages 65-66 (Elder)
Chapter 11: pages 67-70 (Amy)
Chapter 12: pages 71-76 (Elder)
Chapter 13: pages 77-79 (Amy)
Chapter 14: pages 80-84 (Elder)
Chapter 15: pages 85-90 (Amy)
Chapter 16: pages 91-96 (Elder)
Chapter 17: pages 97-111 (Amy)
Chapter 18: pages 112-118 (Elder)
Chapter 19: pages 119-125 (Amy)
Chapter 20: pages 126-130 (Elder)
Chapter 21: pages 131-138(Amy)
Chapter 22: pages 139-140 (Elder)
Chapter 23: pages 141-144 (Amy)
Chapter 24: pages 145-147 (Elder)
Chapter 25: pages 148-152 (Amy)
Chapter 26: pages 153-154 (Elder)
Chapter 27: pages 155-157 (Amy)
Chapter 28: pages 158-163 (Elder)
Chapter 29: pages 164-169 (Amy)
Chapter 30: pages 170-177 (Elder)
Chapter 31: pages 178-182 (Amy)
Chapter 32: pages 183-185 (Elder)
Chapter 33: pages 186-194 (Amy)
Chapter 34: pages 195-199 (Elder)
Chapter 35: page 200 (Amy)
Chapter 36: pages 201-202 (Elder)
Chapter 37: pages 203-206 (Amy)
Chapter 38: pages 207-210 (Elder)
Chapter 39: pages 211-213 (Amy)
Chapter 40: pages 214-216 (Elder)
Chapter 41: pages 217-223 (Amy)
Chapter 42: pages 224-228 (Elder)
Chapter 43: pages 229-236 (Amy)
Chapter 44: pages 237-240 (Elder)
Chapter 45: pages 241-242 (Amy)
Chapter 46: pages 243-248 (Elder)
Chapter 47: pages 249-255 (Amy)
Chapter 48: pages 256-257 (Elder)
Chapter 49: pages 258-261 (Amy)
Chapter 50: pages 262-265 (Elder)
Chapter 51: pages 266-270 (Amy)
Chapter 52: pages 271-276 (Elder)
Chapter 53: pages 277-280 (Amy)
Chapter 54: pages 281-286 (Elder)
Chapter 55: pages 287-292 (Amy)
Chapter 56: pages 293-299 (Elder)
Chapter 57: pages 300-306 (Amy)
Chapter 58: pages 307-311 (Elder)
Chapter 59: pages 312-314 (Amy)
Chapter 60: pages 315-317 (Elder)
Chapter 61: pages 318-324 (Amy)
Chapter 62: pages 325-329 (Elder)
Chapter 63: pages 330-333 (Amy)
Chapter 64: pages 334-339 (Elder)
Chapter 65: pages 340-343 (Amy)
Chapter 66: pages 344-348 (Elder)
Chapter 67: pages 349-350 (Amy)
Chapter 68: pages 351-356 (Elder)
Chapter 69: pages 357-359 (Amy)
Chapter 70: pages 360-363 (Elder)
Chapter 71: pages 364-366 (Amy)
Chapter 72: pages 367-371 (Elder)
Chapter 73: pages 372-374 (Amy)
Chapter 74: pages 375-380 (Elder)
Chapter 75: pages 381-384 (Amy)
Chapter 76: pages 385-388 (Elder)
Chapter 77: pages 389-390 (Amy)
Chapter 78: page 391 (Elder)
Chapter 79: pages 392-394 (Amy)
Chapter 80: pages 395-396 (Elder)
Chapter 81: pages 397-398 (Amy)


message 3: by Aneeqah (last edited Aug 02, 2011 01:14PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Reading Schdule

Date......Chapters to read......Person who creates discussion ?'s

Mon. 7/25........Pre-reading thoughts
Tues. 7/26.......Chapters 1-8.......Aneeqah
Wens. 7/27.......Chapters 9-16.......Sashana
Thurs. 7/28......Chapters 17-24......Aneeqah
Fri. 7/29..........Chapters 25-32......Sashana
Sat. 8/2.........Chapters 33-40......Aneeqah
Sun. 8/3.........Chapters 41-48......Sashana
Mon. 8/4.........Chapters 49-56......Aneeqah
Tues. 8/5.......Chapters 57-64......Sashana
Wens. 8/6......Chapters 65-72......Aneeqah
Thurs. 8/7.....Chapters 73-80......Sashana


message 4: by Aneeqah (last edited Jul 24, 2011 08:44PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Anybody can jump in at any time! Let me know, and I'll adjust our schdule. We start Tuesday!


message 5: by Sashana (last edited Aug 06, 2011 05:26PM) (new)

Sashana Discussion Questions

Chapters 1-8
1. Why do you think Elder feels like a misfit?
2. Is Orion truly Elder's father?
3. Why do you think all the frozen people were hidden?
4. What do you think the last reason of 'discord' is?
5. Do you think Amy waking up in Chapter 7 was a dream or reality?
6. If it wasn't a dream then why did someone try to make her wake up? Who do you think was involved with trying to wake her up?
7. Do you think it's natural that Amy still has thoughts while she is frozen?
8. Do you think Eldest will wake up all of the citizens when the time comes?

Chapters 9-16
9. What do you think about Godspeed's version of curse words? (i.e. frex[ing] and chutz)
10. (Chapter 12, page 74) Doc, however, has stopped in his tracks, his face whitewashed. "Are you sure that's just a Recorder?"
"Yeah," I say. "Orion."
Doc sags in relief. "His voice reminds me of someone I used to know..."
Based on this excerpt do you think there is more to Orion than being a Recorder?
11. Who do you think 'unplugged' Amy?
12. (Chapter 14, page 81-2) "Was it him?"
"No!" I protest immediately.
"Of course not," Doc says. Then, to me, "He's not talking about you."
He turns back to Eldest. "It's impossible, and you know it. You're being paranoid."
"Who are you-"
Who do you think the mysterious 'him' is that Eldest and Doc are referring to?

Chapters 17-24
13. Who do you think killed Number 100? And why number 100?
14. Why do you think Orion was so nice to Amy?
15. Why do you think Eldest treats Elder so badly? For example, on p. 145 is says: ...and I know by the way he says it, as if he's a master speaking to a slave, that Eldest means me, not Doc

Chapters 25-32
16. In chapter 25 the patients seem erriely emotionless. Do you think this is more incentive to believe that they are being drugged?
17. Why does Eldest want the 'patients' in the hospital to believe that they are crazy? (refer to chapter 17)
18. Are there any noticeable similarities between Amy and William Robertson (#100)?

Chapters 33-40
19. Why do you think the girl "inoculating" the rabbits wouldn't believe Amy, even though the proof was right there?
20. Why do you think Orion was covering the portrait of Eldest?? [On page 197] Why isn't he 'brainwashed' like everybody else?
21. Do you think Elder is the killer of the frozen people?

Chapters 41-48
22. Why are some people not affected by the hormones that Eldest puts in the water during The Season? (like Victoria, Eldest, and Harley)
23. Do you think Amy will drive a wedge between Harley and Elder?
24. Do you think Amy will tell Elder about Luthe's attack?
25. Will Amy ever get over Jason?

Chapters 49-56
26. How do you think Amy was changed to be like a Feeder?
27. What is with these pills that the med-patients are using? What are they, and why are they being used?
28. Do you think the 25 extra years was planned all along, or was it actually unexpected?

Chapters 57-64
29. Who do you think was hiding in the shadows while Elder and Amy were in The Recorder Hall during chapter 57?
30. Do you think Amy will be able to convince Elder that the history in The Recorder Hall is untrue/tampered with?
31. If Eldest/Elder are the only ones who can view data of Sol-Earth then why even change the history? Wouldn't it be smarter to just keep the history since no one else will be able to see it?
32. Now that we know the truth about The Plague, Phydus, the inhibitor pills, and the ship being behind schedule do you thing Eldest is evil as we originally thought? How could he (and the Eldest of the past) have went about things differently?

Chapters 65-72
33. At the end of chapter 71 Elder believes that Orion was giving him a test. What exactly was Orion testing/trying to evaluate about Elder?
34. Do you think that Orion could be a better leader than Eldest?
35. Were you surprised by Harley's suicide?


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Sashana Reserved for Questions


message 7: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Ok, here are the discussion questions for today:

Discussion ?'s for Chapters 1-8

1. Why do you think Elder feels like a misfit?

2. Is Orion truly Elder's father?

3. Why do you think all the frozen people were hidden?

4. What do you think the last reason of 'discord' is?


Here are my answers:

1. Why do you think Elder feels like a misfit?
I think he's a misfit because he has a clear mind. He's a natural leader, and he wants to be free, and isn't content with life the way it is.

2. Is Orion truly Elder's father?
I think the odds are too much that he is. It seems unlikely.

3. Why do you think all the frozen people were hidden?
I think they wanted to keep the "unity" on the ship. The people aren't the same, so they don't want people to find out about others that are different from them.

4. What do you think the last reason of 'discord' is?

I think it could be desire. Desire for more than what they have.

Sorry if the questions aren't so great, it's my first time doing it!


message 8: by Sashana (last edited Jul 26, 2011 05:43PM) (new)

Sashana Sashana answers Aneeqah's questions for chapter 1-8

1. Why do you think Elder feels like a misfit?
I have a whole theory on why Elder feels like a misfit: Eldest and Doc are drugging the Feeders to feel happy all of the time. So the Feeders may not even have much of a choice on how they get to feel.

2. Is Orion truly Elder's father?
I don’t think so. I think he’s just curious about his family and tried to identify himself with Orion. Who would blame him?

3. Why do you think all the frozen people were hidden?
I think Eldest is trying to preserve the monotone ethnicity on Godspeed. The fact that the frozen people may look different (different hair color, race, thoughts) might threaten the perfect society they have on Godspeed

4. What do you think the last reason of 'discord' is?
??? What chapter was this in
Edit: I honestly don't know. I'm looking forward to what Eldest has to say. Desire sounds like a good theory. Eldest doesn't seem to have a warm heart so he might despise love.


message 9: by Sashana (last edited Jul 26, 2011 05:53PM) (new)

Sashana Aneeqah, no worries, you did great :). I'm glad we agreed on #3. Eldest seems to not like anyone to be different and the way he looked at Amy's hair (with so much contempt) was creepy. Tell me what you mean by #4 though. I must have missed the whole discord thing.

I had some questions that I wanted to ask you based on chapters 1-8. They kept nagging at me and I want to know what you think. Don't worry, I'll write some more for tomorrow ;). (Think of them as bonus questions)

Bonus question for chapters 1-8
5. Do you think Amy waking up in Chapter 7 was a dream or reality?

6. If it wasn't a dream then why did someone try to make her wake up? Who do you think was involved with trying to wake her up?

7. Do you think it's natural that Amy still has thoughts while she is frozen?

8. Do you think Eldest will wake up all of the citizens when the time comes?



message 10: by Aneeqah (last edited Jul 26, 2011 05:38PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments That's a very interesting theory about number 1, and it seems like it might be true, too. For number 4, I was talking about when Elder and Eldest were talking about things that caused chaos in society, like not having the same religon, not looking the same, etc. Elder's task was to find out the last reason, so that's why he went to the library.


message 11: by Sashana (new)

Sashana Aneeqah wrote: "That's a very interesting theory about number 1, and it seems like it might be true, too. For number 4, I was talking about when Elder and Eldest were talking about things that caused chaos in soci..."

Ohhhh. I know what you're talking about now...I honestly don't know. I'm looking forward to what Eldest has to say. Desire sounds like a good theory. Eldest doesn't seem to have a warm heart so he might despise love.


message 12: by Sashana (last edited Jul 26, 2011 06:44PM) (new)

Sashana Sashana AnswersBonus question for chapters 1-8

5. Do you think Amy waking up in Chapter 7 was a dream or reality?
Definitely reality, it’s was just too vivid and coincidental to be a dream. Plus the door was already open. Someone was clearly ‘messing’ with her.

6. If it wasn’t a dream then why did someone try to make her wake up? Who do you think was involved with trying to wake her up?
I think Doc was involved. He’s the only other person besides Eldest that knew about the hidden level. Plus he admitted to being on that level earlier. I don’t know who the second party was though. I don’t think it was Eldest.

7. Do you think it's natural that Amy still has thoughts while she is frozen?
I don’t think it’s natural. I think something went wrong while they froze her. Over 200 years of thoughts but no active movement is cruel.

8. Do you think Eldest will wake up all of the citizens when the time comes?
Nope. I think he plans to kill them all. That Eldest guy is a creepster.


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Aneeqah | 322 comments Sashana wrote: "Aneeqah wrote: "That's a very interesting theory about number 1, and it seems like it might be true, too. For number 4, I was talking about when Elder and Eldest were talking about things that caus..."

Actually, it was a wild guess. I didn't think I had a theory until I actually started answering the question.

Here are my answers to the bonus questions:

Bonus question for chapters 1-8
5. Do you think Amy waking up in Chapter 7 was a dream or reality?

I was actually going to use this question, but I decided against it. I'm really unsure right now, but I do think it could be partially true.

6. If it wasn't a dream then why did someone try to make her wake up? Who do you think was involved with trying to wake her up?

I like your answer Sashana, for this one. I think right now, we haven't met this character, or it is Doc.

7. Do you think it's natural that Amy still has thoughts while she is frozen?

Great question! I do think it's unnatural. Maybe because she was trying to break out when they froze her, something didn't happen correctly?

8. Do you think Eldest will wake up all of the citizens when the time comes?

No, I don't think so. I think Elder might fight him on that one for sure.


message 14: by Sashana (last edited Jul 27, 2011 10:14AM) (new)

Sashana Sashana's Questions for Chapters 9-16

9. What do you think about Godspeed's version of curse words? (i.e. frex[ing] and chutz)

10. (Chapter 12, page 74) Doc, however, has stopped in his tracks, his face whitewashed. "Are you sure that's just a Recorder?"
"Yeah," I say. "Orion."
Doc sags in relief. "His voice reminds me of someone I used to know..."

Based on this excerpt do you think there is more to Orion than being a Recorder?

11. Who do you think 'unplugged' Amy?

12. (Chapter 14, page 81-2) "Was it him?"
"No!" I protest immediately.
"Of course not," Doc says. Then, to me, "He's not talking about you."
He turns back to Eldest. "It's impossible, and you know it. You're being paranoid."
"Who are you-"

Who do you think the mysterious 'him' is that Eldest and Doc are referring to?


message 15: by Sashana (last edited Jul 27, 2011 12:06PM) (new)

Sashana Sashana answers her own questions for Chapters 9-16

9. What do you think about Godspeed's version of curse words? (i.e. frex[ing] and chutz)
I think they’re brilly (lol). It reminds me of the words in the Uglies series by Scott Westerfeld. Last night I called my friend a chutz and she was like “wwhhhat?”

10. (Chapter 12, page 74) Doc, however, has stopped in his tracks, his face whitewashed. "Are you sure that's just a Recorder?"
"Yeah," I say. "Orion."
Doc sags in relief. "His voice reminds me of someone I used to know..."

Based on this excerpt do you think there is more to Orion than being a Recorder?
Yes. I will be keeping my eyes on that Orion. I think there maybe something about him, maybe I’m just over analyzing his character but my spidey senses are tingling here.

11. Who do you think 'unplugged' Amy?
I’m getting confused. It couldn’t be Doc, Elder, or Orion because they were all accounted for but I don’t think it would be Eldest. It think it’s the mysterious ‘him’

12. (Chapter 14, page 81-2) "Was it him?"
"No!" I protest immediately.
"Of course not," Doc says. Then, to me, "He's not talking about you."
He turns back to Eldest. "It's impossible, and you know it. You're being paranoid."
"Who are you-"

Who do you think the mysterious 'him' is that Eldest and Doc are referring to?
I think it’s the Elder who died (crazy as that may sound). Maybe he isn’t really dead.


message 16: by Aneeqah (last edited Jul 27, 2011 07:12PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Sorry for being so late, I had quite the busy day!

Here are my answers:

9. What do you think about Godspeed's version of curse words? (i.e. frex[ing] and chutz)

I honestly don't really like them. I can see where they "evolved" from,but the don't seem like plausible words. Especialy frex. What would you say? What the frex? It just doesn't work for me. Chutz I can see, though. Like you're such a chutz.

10. (Chapter 12, page 74) Doc, however, has stopped in his tracks, his face whitewashed. "Are you sure that's just a Recorder?"
"Yeah," I say. "Orion."
Doc sags in relief. "His voice reminds me of someone I used to know..."
Based on this excerpt do you think there is more to Orion than being a Recorder?


I defiantly think he could be. My theory is that he once had something to do with Eldest. Maybe he was once the Elder?

11. Who do you think 'unplugged' Amy?

At this point, I still don't know. It could be Eldest, trying to get rid of Amy? I honestly doubt it though.

12. (Chapter 14, page 81-2) "Was it him?"
"No!" I protest immediately.
"Of course not," Doc says. Then, to me, "He's not talking about you."
He turns back to Eldest. "It's impossible, and you know it. You're being paranoid."
"Who are you-"
Who do you think the mysterious 'him' is that Eldest and Doc are referring to?


I also think it could be the previous Elder. It seems like he isn't truly dead (could it be Orion?)


Is the book getting any better for you, Sashana?


message 17: by Sashana (new)

Sashana It's getting better for me (surprisingly) this is my 4th attempt at reading this book. I think I might actually finish it this time. How is it going for you?


message 18: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments It's actually way better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be absolutley terrible, but it's not that bad right now.

Here are my questions for today:

Discussion Questions for Chapters 17-24

1. Who do you think killed Number 100? And why number 100?

2. Why do you think Orion was so nice to Amy?

3. Why do you think Eldest treats Elder so badly? For example, on p. 145 is says: ...and I know by the way he says it, as if he's a master speaking to a slave, that Eldest means me, not Doc


message 19: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments My answers:

1. Who do you think killed Number 100? And why number 100?

I think it's got to be the old Elder now. At the end of Chapter 24, Eldest said "No, not him, he's dead." which defiantly implies it's the old Elder. Though I'm not sure of his motive for killing number 100.

2. Why do you think Orion was so nice to Amy?

There's something up with Orion. He's not what he seems to be. I'm going to be watching him very closely....

3. Why do you think Eldest treats Elder so badly? For example, on p. 145 is says: ...and I know by the way he says it, as if he's a master speaking to a slave, that Eldest means me, not Doc

I think it has to do with the old Elder. I think Eldest is still feeling kinda bad about it, so he's being super mad at Elder.


message 20: by Sashana (last edited Jul 28, 2011 05:34PM) (new)

Sashana Response to Aneeqah's questions for Chapters 17-24

13. Who do you think killed Number 100? And why number 100?
I honestly don't know why they would pick 100 but I do think the same person who unplugged Amy unplugged him. I hope we get some answers soon. So many unanswered questions...

14. Why do you think Orion was so nice to Amy?
I think he might be against Eldest. I keep asking myself why he didn't act surprised when he saw her. He wasn't shocked enough.

15. Why do you think Eldest treats Elder so badly? For example, on p. 145 is says: ...and I know by the way he says it, as if he's a master speaking to a slave, that Eldest means me, not Doc
Because he doesn't like the idea of anyone having a little power, especially if that person happens to be the future leader. He wants to make it clear to everyone who is in charge.


message 21: by Sashana (new)

Sashana Aneeqah wrote: "I think it's got to be the old Elder now. At the end of Chapter 24, Eldest said "No, not him, he's dead." which defiantly im..."

Ditto. I wish more characters would come out of the wood works so far we have slim pickings.


message 22: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments I know! We really don't know alot at this point, and we are getting pretty deep into the story. I feel like the story hasn't even begun yet.


message 23: by Sashana (last edited Jul 29, 2011 12:40PM) (new)

Sashana Sashana's Questions for Chapters 25-32

16. In chapter 25 the patients seem erriely emotionless. Do you think this is more incentive to believe that they are being drugged?

17. Why does Eldest want the 'patients' in the hospital to believe that they are crazy? (refer to chapter 17)

18. Are there any noticeable similarities between Amy and William Robertson (#100)?



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Sashana 16. In chapter 25 the patients seem erriely emotionless. Do you think this is more incentive to believe that they are being drugged?
I'm pretty much sure that this is what is going on.

17. Why does Eldest want the 'patients' in the hospital to believe that they are crazy? (refer to chapter 27)
Obviously the people who live on the Feeder level are supposed to be dumb. These 'patients' are a threat to Eldest because they aren't stupid. It's his way of keeping an eye on them

18. Are there any noticeable similarities between Amy and William Robertson (#100)?
Not that I can see. Other than that they are from Earth.


message 25: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments I'm finally done up to Chapter 33. I'll do my questions right after I finish today's part.

Here are my answers:

Sashana's Questions for Chapters 25-32

16. In chapter 25 the patients seem erriely emotionless. Do you think this is more incentive to believe that they are being drugged?

Maybe that's Eldest way of controlling them.

17. Why does Eldest want the 'patients' in the hospital to believe that they are crazy? (refer to chapter 17)

I think it's so that they doubt themselves, and so they don't think their thoughts are correct. So, they won't rebel.

18. Are there any noticeable similarities between Amy and William Robertson (#100)?

As of right now, I don't think so. But I'll defiantly keep my eyes peeled...


message 26: by Aneeqah (last edited Aug 02, 2011 02:57PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Discussion ?'s for Chapters 33-40

1. Why do you think the girl "inoculating" the rabbits wouldn't believe Amy, even though the proof was right there?

2. Why do you think Orion was covering the portrait of Eldest?? [On page 197] Why isn't he 'brainwashed' like everybody else?

3. Do you think Elder is the killer of the frozen people?


message 27: by Aneeqah (last edited Aug 02, 2011 02:57PM) (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments My answers:

Discussion ?'s for Chapters 33-40

1. Why do you think the girl "inoculating" the rabbits wouldn't believe Amy, even though the proof was right there?

Now, it can't just be their belief in Eldest. There's got to be something that's controlling all these people.

2. Why do you think Orion was covering the portrait of Eldest?? [On page 197] Why isn't he 'brainwashed' like everybody else?

I honestly don't know. But there's something fishy about this guy....

3. Do you think Elder is the killer of the frozen people?

No, I don't. It seems too obvious for that. As for who then, I don't have a clue.


message 28: by Sashana (new)

Sashana 19. Why do you think the girl "inoculating" the rabbits wouldn't believe Amy, even though the proof was right there?
A lifetime worth of brainwashing and being drugged up. Obviously the people on the Feeder level cannot think for themselves.

20. Why do you think Orion was covering the portrait of Eldest?? [On page 197] Why isn't he 'brainwashed' like everybody else?
I think it was his way of silently telling Elder that he has power too.

21. Do you think Elder is the killer of the frozen people?
I agree with you about it being too obvious.


message 29: by Sashana (new)

Sashana Sashana's Questions for Chapters 41-48
22. Why are some people not affected by the hormones that Eldest puts in the water during The Season? (like Victoria, Eldest, and Harley)

23. Do you think Amy will drive a wedge between Harley and Elder?

24. Do you think Amy will tell Elder about Luthe's attack?

25. Will Amy ever get over Jason?


message 30: by Sashana (new)

Sashana Sashana answers questions for Chapters 41-48

22. Why are some people not affected by the hormones that Eldest puts in the water during The Season? (like Victoria, Eldest, and Harley)
It's a mystery to me. If the hormones are in the water and everyone drinks the same water then I don't know why some people aren't affected. I'm interested to see what you think Aneeqah.

23. Do you think Amy will drive a wedge between Harley and Elder?
No. I can see that Elder gets slighly jealous whenever Harley and Amy interacts but I know that Harley doesn't like Amy.


24. Do you think Amy will tell Elder about Luthe's attack?
I hope she does. I'm anxiously awaiting his reaction

25. Will Amy ever get over Jason?
Hopefully sooner rather than later


message 31: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 322 comments Sashana's Questions for Chapters 41-48

22. Why are some people not affected by the hormones that Eldest puts in the water during The Season? (like Victoria, Eldest, and Harley)

I'm pretty sure these are the people that get injected with the needles, if they use the needles at all. Or, the 'bloodlines' the Eldest was talking about wasn't so mixed, and these people are actually semi-smart (along with their parents, grandparents, etc.). Maybe it also has something to do with their mental pills? I'm starting to think that the pills they take aren't really pills. I have so many theories!

23. Do you think Amy will drive a wedge between Harley and Elder?
I think Elder will get jelous, but then Harley will tell him he has no intrest in Amy, and then Elder won't have a problem. So basically, no.


24. Do you think Amy will tell Elder about Luthe's attack?
I don't think she'll describe it really, just say she got 'attacked'.

25. Will Amy ever get over Jason?

She better! Actually, I think she won't ever fully get over him, but enough that she and Eldest can be together.


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Sashana Aneeqah wrote: "I have so many theories! "

Me too. I'm getting somewhat bored and aggravated because nothing is being answered. You'd expect for us to know something by now, we've already passed the halfway mark.


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Aneeqah | 322 comments It is aggravating! We're just starting to find out things we should have known for a while now. For example, we should have known that Jason was a big jerk. Why would Amy fall for him? Is she really that stupid? It's making me question whether we really know Amy yet.


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Sashana I'm disappointed that she didn't call Jason on his cheating ways. So far Amy has come off as strong and stubborn but not when it comes to Jason it seems. Thank God he's in the past.


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Aneeqah | 322 comments That's really what confused me with Amy. She seems so smart, but how could she fall for someone like Jason? I'm really happy that he's not on the ship.


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Sashana I have a question: Do you think the inhibitor pills are used to keep certain people clear headed as opposed to drugged like we originally thought? They seemed to help Amy out of her Zombie-esque stagger.


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Aneeqah | 322 comments That was going to be one of my questions for today! I'll use it anways. =)

Discussion ?'s for Chapters 49-56

1. How do you think Amy was changed to be like a Feeder?

2. What is with these pills that the med-patients are using? What are they, and why are they being used?

3. Do you think the 25 extra years was planned all along, or was it actually unexpected?


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Aneeqah | 322 comments Discussion ?'s for Chapters 49-56

1. How do you think Amy was changed to be like a Feeder?

It must be with the water. She drank alot of it, and Eldest told Elder it had something in it to change the Feeders.

2. What is with these pills that the med-patients are using? What are they, and why are they being used?

They must use it to keep some people sane from the water, or whatever is changing the Feeders into zombies.

3. Do you think the 25 extra years was planned all along, or was it actually unexpected?

I think they found out about it pretty early, but they didn't telly anybody, until now.


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Sashana Chapters 49-56
26. How do you think Amy was changed to be like a Feeder?
Yes I do. What I want to know is whether not it was planned or an accident

27. What is with these pills that the med-patients are using? What are they, and why are they being used?
Well since I read up to chapter 64 I can say for a fact that you are right on the money.

28. Do you think the 25 extra years was planned all along, or was it actually unexpected?
Honestly I thought it was a plot devised by Eldest because he didn't want the ship to land. Boy was I wrong.


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Sashana Questions for chapters 57-64
29. Who do you think was hiding in the shadows while Elder and Amy were in The Recorder Hall during chapter 57?

30. Do you think Amy will be able to convince Elder that the history in The Recorder Hall is untrue/tampered with?

31. If Eldest/Elder are the only ones who can view data of Sol-Earth then why even change the history? Wouldn't it be smarter to just keep the history since no one else will be able to see it?

32. Now that we know the truth about The Plague, Phydus, the inhibitor pills, and the ship being behind schedule do you thing Eldest is evil as we originally thought? How could he (and the Eldest of the past) have went about things differently?


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Aneeqah | 322 comments Questions for chapters 57-64

29. Who do you think was hiding in the shadows while Elder and Amy were in The Recorder Hall during chapter 57?

I'm pretty sure it was Orion. He said that he didn't like Eldest, so he was probably just hiding from him.

30. Do you think Amy will be able to convince Elder that the history in The Recorder Hall is untrue/tampered with?

I think she will, especially with all the lies that have been revealed to Elder. Plus, he really trusts her.

31. If Eldest/Elder are the only ones who can view data of Sol-Earth then why even change the history? Wouldn't it be smarter to just keep the history since no one else will be able to see it?

The people who did change it probably wanted it to help the future Elders not repeat the mistakes Earth did, and to help make it seem like peace is achieved through preventing the three causes of discord.


32. Now that we know the truth about The Plague, Phydus, the inhibitor pills, and the ship being behind schedule do you thing Eldest is evil as we originally thought? How could he (and the Eldest of the past) have went about things differently?

Do I still think he's evil? Well, yes, at least a little bit. But not as much as I originally thought. I'm actually not sure what they could do differently. But, defiantly not what they did, which was lie.


It's nice to finally get some of our questions answered in this section, but there's one really major thing we still don't know about. And that's Orion. Who is he really? What does he have against Elder? What has he done in his past? It's very aggravating....


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Sashana Questions for chapters 57-64
29. Who do you think was hiding in the shadows while Elder and Amy were in The Recorder Hall during chapter 57?
Orion. I don't think Eldest would slink around in a dark corner. He's too proud to do that

30. Do you think Amy will be able to convince Elder that the history in The Recorder Hall is untrue/tampered with?
Yes, especially now that Elder knows that Eldest lied about the Plague.

31. If Eldest/Elder are the only ones who can view data of Sol-Earth then why even change the history? Wouldn't it be smarter to just keep the history since no one else will be able to see it?
I think this is to keep the future Eldest/Elder ignorant.

32. Now that we know the truth about The Plague, Phydus, the inhibitor pills, and the ship being behind schedule do you thing Eldest is evil as we originally thought? How could he (and the Eldest of the past) have went about things differently?
I think he's as evil as I originally thought. Yes, I understand why he had to deceive people I don't think it was right.


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Sashana I'm glad we're almost done :). I feel like I've been reading this book forever. And I'm glad things are finally starting to pick up.


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Aneeqah | 322 comments Me too, Sashana! I kind of liked reading the book a little slower. I'm one of those people that likes to read a book in one sitting, but I miss alot of things when I do it that way. I'm also happy we're finally getting our questions answered!


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Sashana I kind of forgot today was my day. Sorry for the late questions.

Questions for chapters 65-72

33. At the end of chapter 71 Elder believes that Orion was giving him a test. What exactly was Orion testing/trying to evaluate about Elder?

34. Do you think that Orion could be a better leader than Eldest?

35. Were you surprised by Harley's suicide?


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Sashana 33. At the end of chapter 71 Elder believes that Orion was giving him a test. What exactly was Orion testing/trying to evaluate about Elder?
I'm interested to see what you thing Aneeqah. I already finished the book so it wouldn't be fair for me to answer.

34. Do you think that Orion could be a better leader than Eldest?
I think any leader would be better than Eldest. With that being said Orion is unplugging people so he wouldn't be a great leader in general

35. Were you surprised by Harley's suicide?
Nope


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