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Which character do you dislike the most? (possible Spoilers of books 1-4)

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message 201: by Jack (new)

Jack | 21 comments 1 Jeoffry (I spelled that wrong I think)
2 Jamie Lannister
3 Cersi Lannister
4 Umm (Rubs chin) pretty much everyone who hasn't died by the end of book 2


message 202: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Littlefinger-He started the war of the five kings, so many lives lost. Poor Jeyne Poole and now he has Sansa.

Varys-His hypocrisy for weeping over the innocent dying and yet he kills his 'little birds' without blinking.

Roose Bolton-Sabotaging Robb, then the Red Wedding and for being an evil cruel mongrel.

Ramsay Bolton-A psycho bozo who needs to be put out of action.

There are so many, too many...The Mountain, Lorch, Rorge, Biter, Joffrey, Cersei, Quyburn etc....


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Rebecca | 800 comments Spencer wrote: "LOL, you named all the best characters! If it wasn't for the White Walkers and the Dragons, it could be called a Song of Varys and Littlefinger. Two master schemers going head to head!"

LOL I think you'd be right, but there's also Jon and his mysterious parentage....My own shot in the dark--Varys will creep away and survive...The curse of Harrenhal will eventually get Littlefinger...if Lady Stoneheart doesn't get him first!;)


message 204: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Spencer wrote: "Oh I would have to imagine Littlefinger will get his, although I think a knife in the back from Sansa would be up there as a way for him to go, or maybe Arya in her return to Westeros."

I actually don't know where the show is going with Sansa, but I can't see her actually stabbing anyone-it would be too unladylike....But Arya, that's a different story, although he's never been on her hit list, unfortunately.

In the books. I think Lady Stoneheart will figure out that Petyr Baelish was never 'like a little brother'...In ASOS, she spends a lot of time pondering on what Jaime and Tyrion have told her, but she doesn't want to believe Petyr would lie to her...then the Red Wedding....I guess we'll have to wait and see....


message 205: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments I think show Sansa has regressed and not progressed, but I'm hoping that D&D have some sort of plot for her, or else she'll become too stupid to live.

I'd like to see Sansa begin to mirror Daenerys journey at the beginning, she had a tough time with Drogo and the Dothraki, but her own determination won over...But Dan n Dave have messed up Sansa's storyline so much that it is hard to predict......Their are S6 Spoilers, but I wont mention them here.


message 206: by Kevin (new)

Kevin Mather | 1 comments Got to be Jofreyy, that little piece of crap. Not a big fan of the Cleganes either.


message 207: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Kevin wrote: "Got to be Jofreyy, that little piece of crap. Not a big fan of the Cleganes either."

I like the Hound-You can see him changing from being a cold blooded killer to Sansa and then Arya's protector which he does in his own rather brutal fashion.....but he doesn't know any other way. I actually do think he regrets killing Mycha(the butchers boy)....so there is redemption for Sandor Clegane.


message 208: by Alfred (last edited Nov 30, 2015 09:53AM) (new)

Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 86 comments TV show:
1. Ramsay (sadist)
2. Mountain (meathead)
3. Brienne (Mary Sue. Too much air time!)
4. Robyn Arryn (whiny)
5. Joffrey (same as Ramsay. A bastard in every way)
6. Three Sand snakes (pick any. Why did we go to Dorne again?)

Book
1. Ramsay (less air time. No less sadistic)
2. Shae (greedy. TV Shae had more characterization)
3. Bran (boring)
4. Theon (weak bully then a sniveling coward)
5. Rob Stark (idiot. For beheading Karstark)
6. Catelyn Stark (jealous. Mean to Jon)
7. Robyn Arryn (same as above)


message 209: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Alfred wrote: "TV show:
1. Ramsay (sadist)
2. Mountain (meathead)
3. Brienne (Mary Sue. Too much air time!)
4. Robyn Arryn (whiny)
5. Joffrey (same as Ramsay. A bastard in every way)
6. Three Sand snakes (pick an..."


LOL I got the giggles with Mountain=Meathead....but I would have to include Littlefinger, the instigator of the War of the Five Kings. That dude has to die.....


message 210: by Alfred (new)

Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 86 comments Rebecca wrote: "I would have to include Littlefinger, the instigator of the War of the Five Kings. That dude has to die..... "

Littlefinger is devious, manipulative, cunning, ambitious, unscrupulous, dishonorable, unethical, treacherous, deceitful, under-handed and immoral.

True, he has to die. But what a great character! Not on my dislike list...


message 211: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments I find Littlefinger an absolutely fascinating character, and I believe GRRM has created one of the most villainous characters in literary history.

But all the things you mentioned above, he has to die. He not only responsible for the death of high born lords and ladies, thousands have died because of his manipulations.....so though I find him interesting, he has to die....


message 212: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments TheOldBear wrote: "I despise Lysa Arryn.All the events and deaths have their roots at her killing Jon Arryn.And she did such a stupid stuff because it was asked of her."

You're right and it is easy to overlook her contribution to the downfall of her sister's family and all because she was jealous. She's an odious woman and got what she deserved....


Layla ✷ Praise the sun ✷ | 2 comments Cersei Lannister is at the top of the very top of the top of my most hatest characters. She is a power hungry corrupt evil... Something.
Theon Greyjoy is next on my list, for being arrogant, utterly naive, ungrateful, and for not having a spine.

Brilliant character writing though, to make people feel so strongly about them.

I also dislike Catelyn Stark and Daenerys Targaryen.


message 214: by Holly (new)

Holly (goldikova) I didn't hate Cersei until I started reading her POV chapters later in the series. Her delusional thinking, paranoia and viciousness cannot be underestimated; so I hope something awful happens to her before she does any more damage to the characters I like


message 215: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Jack wrote: "my least favorite, most hated, despised characters of all time are

1 Cersi Lannister
2 Theon Greyjoy
3 Jeoffry Lannister I hated that little messed up kid so much I wanted to have him die in a sl..."


In the books Ned didn't want to go to Kings Landing, he wanted to refuse the Kings offer, it was Catelyn who talked him into it.....Also Ned didn't start the War of the Five Kings; Littlefinger started it with the death of Jon Arryn assisted by Lysa....When Ned was ready to leave Kings Landing, it was Littlefinger again who intervened and then probably let Jaime Lannister know where to find him and so Ned got injured.

Littlefinger needed Ned dead and that meant keeping him at Kings Landing....He's a long term planner and he has always had his eyes on the North and the Throne.

I think Ned made some dumb mistakes, but I can't hate him for putting honour and principles above self interest.....I also think Ned's legacy will last longer, than Tywin Lannister whose family have now become a joke.....


message 216: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca | 800 comments Jack wrote: "True but if Ned did not obey his honor once then little fingers plan would have failed so the blame still Falls partially to Ned."

Littlefinger has the amazing capacity to always land on his feet, if Ned had not listened-- Littlefinger would have figured out another way. He needed to escalate the distrust between Houses Stark and Lannister & unfortunately Sansa also naively betrayed her father by informing Cersei of her father's intent....But yes, Ned should have left immediately and not have bothered with finding Jon Arryn's murderer.......


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