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message 1: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments Misfit couldn't make a new topic and it looks like It's letting me so, here it is . . . Have at it.


message 2: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
Thanks for doing that Melissa. And yes, have it it. GR is still very weird tonight in internet explorer land :/


message 3: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments That's why I switched to Firefox years ago.


message 4: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
I might have to...


message 5: by Harvey (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Did anyone suggest computers were logical?


message 6: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
Lol, no they aren't. Things are back to normal this morning thank goodness.


message 7: by Harvey (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Good to hear and thanks to Melissa for setting up the discussion. Just seemed a shame to cut the discussion when many interesting aspects were being discussed.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) Misfit wrote: "I might have to..."

I really like Firefox.


message 9: by Harvey (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Susanna wrote: "Misfit wrote: "I might have to..."

I really like Firefox."


My Dear, your soul is not in peril liking Firefox. :)

The comment sounded almost confessional. I like Google Chrome, but I dare say it is not perfection. I dare say in five years we will all laugh how we managed today... and in...


message 10: by Jemidar (new)

Jemidar Susanna wrote: "Misfit wrote: "I might have to..."

I really like Firefox."


I use Firefox (and love it!) but still have issues with GR sometimes. Usually fixes itself within 24 hours, although I did have one lot a month or so ago that went for three whole days!! Luckily, I could still access basics so I didn't have complete withdrawal...lol.

Personally I wouldn't touch Chrome because Google is well known for collecting all sorts of personal information with their various products. G-mail scans all your emails (mostly for target words) and then sells the info and I believe Chrome records your internet activity and also sells that info. Something to keep in mind if your value your privacy.


message 11: by Harvey (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Hand on heart I have never bought viagra or increased my breast size... Chrome 99% of the time seems to filter the rubbish pretty well. True I constantly miss out on the maybe by this time trillions of dollars that folks who I have no knowledge of wish to shower upon me, not to mention friendship, marriage and undying love.

What a martyr I am!

Or not...


message 12: by Jemidar (new)

Jemidar LOL. No I mean that they track the user and then sell the info on to interested parties, big corporations etc who are interested in our buying habits, likes dislikes etc rather than the scammers. Seriously it is big business and funds all Google's projects. My partner works in the industry and says people would be surprised if they knew what goes on behind the scenes.


message 13: by Harvey (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Jemidar wrote: "LOL. No I mean that they track the user and then sell the info on to interested parties, big corporations etc who are interested in our buying habits, likes dislikes etc rather than the scammers. ..."

Yes my dear Jemidar; I used to be in advertising too, BC. Before Computers. I know that Google mail shoots up ad (legit ones-not the viagra, physical extension type that I vilified). Well, I'd love lots of things that money could or indeed can buy. I have a choice and at least half a brain and decide what is good for me, what is good for my much better half and what is good for my, by now my extended family.

I cannot blame an advertiser tempting me with, lets say some real estate in Tuscany. I'd love to. I dream to have a farm/vineyard in Italy. It is human nature to desire all sorts of things. As grown-ups we have to choose what suits our situation.

I am not St. Francis. I do want more money more properties, more books especially, more ...

We all have to make a balance in our lives, and if Google does not say so some other corporation will or already does so. In my newspaper every day McBurgers say what a unique dining experience I will enjoy with their chicken wings and zingy batter. Do I blindly fall for the hype?

Does the car I drive make me a different person? I have owned/driven in my time several vehicles at very different price tags. Am/was I a different person? No.

I do love luxury, I enjoy fine things, fine experiences, but I am me and will remain so whatever an advert, electronic or print tells me.

Botox might well change my life but will it be in a way I want it? :)


message 14: by Harvey (last edited Jun 25, 2011 03:41PM) (new)

Harvey | 35 comments Jemidar wrote: "LOL. No I mean that they track the user and then sell the info on to interested parties, big corporations etc who are interested in our buying habits, likes dislikes etc rather than the scammers. ..."

Just musing on your avatar; Gillette, Wilkinson Sword make fine blades but are you in the market?


message 15: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
To a certian extent there's no escaping some of it. I work in business credit (chasing contractors for money) and make full use of the information that's available to me when either chasing down a deadbeat of checking out a new customer. If people had any idea what kind of public records are available at the click of a mouse, they'd just die. A lot varies by city, county and state but there's a plethora of it out there. Not necessarily stuff people would use for ID theft (although they could), but property ownership/taxes, jail rosters (no I'm not kidding - even the Federal Bureau of Prisons), deeds of trust, tax liens, and bankruptcies.


message 16: by Jemidar (new)

Jemidar Misfit wrote: "To a certian extent there's no escaping some of it. I work in business credit (chasing contractors for money) and make full use of the information that's available to me when either chasing down a ..."

I know I find it horrifying. That's why I try and minimise exposure while surfing the net and get somewhat paranoid about internet security and privacy.


message 17: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
No matter how cautious one is with internet security and privacy, there is no escaping public records unfortunately, let alone the power of Google. You'd be surprised how many of my old deadbeats friends I can find by googling them or their phone #'s. I'd been waiting for proof that one old *pal* was working for the state like he claimed before we garnished. We found him on My Space bragging about his new job. Garnished, but dammit the child support has to come first :/


message 18: by Joan (new)

Joan Szechtman | 401 comments Me thinks this is the perfect place to promote my "shiny" new trailer, so here 'tis.

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message 19: by Melissa (last edited Jul 27, 2011 06:56PM) (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments http://www.spinelessclassics.com/

I found this link originally posted on Librarything and it might be the greatest thing I've ever seen and thought I should share.


message 20: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
Very clever, thanks for mentioning them.


message 21: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments I cannot believe it has been 4 days since anybody's posted anything . . . whats everybody up to?


message 22: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
Not reading about R3 here.


message 24: by Susan (new)

Susan (boswellbaxter) | 418 comments I've reached the point where I can't stomach any more Ricardian fiction, I'm afraid. This link, however, does contain information about things provided for his coronation (see page 28):

http://books.google.com/books?id=jckc...


message 25: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments So this is actually On Topic for the group, but my internet isn't letting me make something new so I figured just discuss it here. . .

Yesterday I learned some very distressing news about my best friend, I found of that she is a Lancastrian, and a very dedicated one at that.
For some reason it is something that we had never actually discussed and we were both baffled that the other one could have such a point of view. But from talking I did find out that she has never read anything other than non-fiction histories or pro-Lancastrian/Anti-R3 books about the WOTR.
I just had to share this with some people who would share my pro-Yorkist point of view becasue apparently I'm the only one I know in my daily life.


message 26: by Misfit (last edited Sep 26, 2011 12:59PM) (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
A Lancastrian? Are you sure?


message 27: by Jemidar (new)

Jemidar Why should it matter? Lancastrians are people too.


message 28: by Susan (new)

Susan (boswellbaxter) | 418 comments Jemidar wrote: "Why should it matter? Lancastrians are people too."

Yes, and we have nifty secret handshakes.


message 29: by Mrs. C. (new)

Mrs. C. | 43 comments Melissa wrote: "So this is actually On Topic for the group, but my internet isn't letting me make something new so I figured just discuss it here. . .

Yesterday I learned some very distressing news about my bes..."


I have been a Ricardian for so long that it is hard for me to think about the Lancastrians as anything but stereotypes. As you know, I'm introducing some 7th graders to the Wars of the Roses and we are going to read Jean Plaidy's *Red Rose of Anjou* about good old Margaret. I haven't read it carefully yet but skimmed it enough to discover that Plaidy viewed her through Yorkist eyes, which is good (IMHO), but I'm also currently reading A. L. Rowse's book Bosworth Field and the Wars of the Roses, which is Lancastrian in sympathy. As a Brit, Rowse does view Margaret as "that Frenchwoman" (my term), but he still depicts her as a gritty female in a man's world. I don't want to like her, but....


message 30: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
I may joke about it, but I'm sure there's more to Margaret (and those Woodvilles) than meets the eye.


message 31: by Susan (last edited Sep 26, 2011 02:27PM) (new)

Susan (boswellbaxter) | 418 comments Sadly, many of the same Ricardians who believe (rightly) that statements of "fact" about Richard III should be examined with a critical eye are quite happy to perpetuate myths or unsupported rumors about other historical figures from this era, such as Margaret of Anjou and Elizabeth Woodville.


message 32: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 1139 comments Mod
Susan wrote: "Sadly, many of the same Ricardians who believe (rightly) that statements of "fact" about Richard III should be examined with a critical eye are quite happy to perpetuate myths or unsupported rumors..."

That's why I like it here at our little group. We can all be open minded. I hope...


message 33: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (rockstarninja) | 35 comments Susan wrote: "Jemidar wrote: "Why should it matter? Lancastrians are people too."

Yes, and we have nifty secret handshakes."



WHAT? Why don't WE have a secret handshake!?!
The Lancasters apparently have multiple handshakes to choose from.


message 34: by Joan (new)

Joan Szechtman | 401 comments Lancastrian... Lansmastrian... She was a woman and many women not only didn't fare well both then and now. I never liked the press that Elizabeth Woodville or Hilary Clinton got either. Notice how much better the non-assertive/aggressive/behind the scenes women generally fared a la Elizabeth of York and Laura Bush.

Joan


message 35: by Joan (new)

Joan Szechtman | 401 comments Okay, this is really off topic, but I want to brag, and think this might be the best place to do it.

I just got news that my short story, Becoming Ishmael finished second in Writer's Digest SciFi short story competition--Woohoo!! My first cash prize. I also get a promotion in Writer's Digest magazine--will have to find out what that means--if I can include my two novels as part of my bio.

I'm thrilled!!!


message 36: by Darkpool (new)

Darkpool | 91 comments Congratulations, Joan!


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