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Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments We'll skip TOGETHER, Sarah. :)


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Jim | 6484 comments I hope Jackie has somewhere she can use the fertilizer.


message 53: by RandomAnthony (last edited Jun 16, 2011 11:05AM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Sidebar: John Edwards's mug shot is creepy:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/indicted-...


message 54: by Jammies (new)

Jammies I wish I could take the bus or a pony cart to work and the grocery store and to the gym!

Sarah, may I have my own pony, or do I have to steal Jackie's?


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Perfect, Bun! I'm a big believer in reduce, reuse, recycle.
I'll take the pony along with me to the store to pack the groceries back home on.

I'm voting for Obama again. I think he's done a pretty good job. He kept the economy from completely tanking (yes, I know it's bad, but I think it would be worse under conservative policies), some health care legislation got passed (and again, it needs work, but it's a start), he repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and he took out Osama bin Laden.


And yes, RA, John Edward's mug shot IS creepy.
:::shudder:::


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Sarah | 13814 comments Jammies, you may have your own pony as well. I will find you all your perfect ponies.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments BunWat wrote: "Now is the time to confess that I love draft and harness horses. Particularly Belgians and Fresians and Morgans."

Who doesn't, Bun?


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Sarah | 13814 comments BunWat wrote: "Now is the time to confess that I love draft and harness horses. Particularly Belgians and Fresians and Morgans."

Those are just big beautiful dumbblood ponies.


message 59: by Sarah (last edited Jun 16, 2011 11:40AM) (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments BunWat wrote: "dumblood? Definition?"

made up word courtesy of an old coach of mine. Drafts are typically called 'coldblooded' as opposed to the 'hotblooded' Arabians and Thoroughbreds. 'Warmbloods' are breeds that evolved by mixing Arab and TB and draft horse breeds.

Belgians and the like tend to be unflappable like ponies, and they're built sturdy and round like ponies (just bigger), but they are not as bright. Ponies are clever things. Hence 'dumbblood,' as applied to draft horses and to big European warmbloods.


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Sarah | 13814 comments BunWat wrote: "Ahhh, I get it. Are draft horses really dumb? Because I don't get on so well with dumb."

Not dumb. Ponies are still equine, but they tend to be cleverer - in a tricksy way - than horses. Like I'm sure Deor is smarter than Bo, but Bo is tricksier than Deor.
Draft horses aren't dumber than other horses, just...well, a little more even tempered (bred that way because they needed to be good work animals, not spooky in harness) and not as sensitive. Lack of sensitivity also helps for long hours in harness.

There's a good article I read this month about a Grand Prix dressage rider attempting to train a Friesian. She couldn't figure out why she couldn't get him to do a certain move, and finally realized he wouldn't do it because he thought he would fall over. She thought he was being stubborn, but he was being practical. Long back and straight shoulder and bulky body are good for pulling things, but when you start asking them to gather their legs up and shift their balance, they may have trouble. A Thoroughbred in that situation would probably run or buck to show upset. The drafty horse will just keep doing what he's doing, and hope you'll come around to seeing things his way and stop bothering him with scary and challenging questions.


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Sarah | 13814 comments I should add that Morgans are not actually draft horses, so they won't fall into that category.
Belgians do.

Friesians come in two different varieties these days: an old school, drafty harness horse, and a sportier, less drafty model. I think the more athletic ones being bred these days also have less draft-like brains to go with their bodies.

Old:
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Modern type:
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Morgans also come in a couple of types: foundation Morgans are stockier, whereas the modern type has a longer, sleeker look.


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Sarah | 13814 comments FOundation Morgan:
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Modern-type Morgan:



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Phil | 11837 comments Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "BunWat wrote: "Now is the time to confess that I love draft and harness horses. Particularly Belgians and Fresians and Morgans."

Who doesn't, Bun?"


The guy mucking the stable.


message 64: by Sarah (last edited Jun 16, 2011 12:57PM) (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments OK, so my shopping list is:
ponies for Jammies and Jackie
light draft for Bun


this mare for me:
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She's in Mansfield Ontario, so maybe Barb can go look at her for me.


message 65: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Sarah Pi wrote: "OK, so my shopping list is:
ponies for Jammies and Jackie
light draft for Bun


this mare for me:


She's in Mansfield Ontario, so maybe Barb can go look at her for me."


She is gorgeous!


message 66: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Yes. And for sale.
Bad Sarah.
No horse shopping right now.


message 67: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Pinto Mustang: check.
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message 68: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Bun, here's your Friesian, though you'll want to have him gelded. He's trained to drive and ride and he has a lovely intelligent eye.
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For sale in Minnesota, so you'll have to get Michael to look at him for you.


message 69: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Or you can get your mom to look at these boys in New York State - two for one.
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Sarah | 13814 comments Pony for Jackie, already in Washington State. I will take her if you don't want her. She's a good size for an adult:
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Sarah | 13814 comments For Jammies, a Haflinger in Ohio, also big enough for an adult.
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Stina (stinalee) | 749 comments These horse pictures are making me kind of sad. My horse was an adorable chestnut Arabian mare who was tiny... 14.2 hands (pretty much pony sized).

I quit riding her when I went away to college- she lived at my grandparents' farm and they sold her.

::clears lump from throat::


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Sarah | 13814 comments Sorry to hear that, Kristina. There are ways to track her down if you think she's still out there somewhere.


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Stina (stinalee) | 749 comments She used to be put in a pasture that I drove by. Every once in a while, I'd park on the side of the street to see if she'd come over to see me. The last time I drove by, she wasn't there.

She's an old(ish) lady now... in her twenties.

I have a lead rope and her harness with her nameplate on it somewhere... I should rustle that up.


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janine | 7709 comments I'm only here for the ponies. Can i have one too?


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smetchie | 4034 comments Kristina wrote: "These horse pictures are making me kind of sad. My horse was an adorable chestnut Arabian mare who was tiny... 14.2 hands (pretty much pony sized).

I quit riding her when I went away to college..."


I'm sorry you miss your horse, Kristina! I haven't been around horses much in my life but I'm fascinated by them. Well, I should say the idea of them. I love books and movies with horses.

Like this one:
My Chincoteague Pony by Susan Jeffers My Chincoteague Pony

And this one:
Lonesome Dove (Part 1 of 3) by Larry McMurtry Lonesome Dove


message 77: by Arminius (new)

Arminius I am here for the cheap gas but I would prefer galloping to work on my horse.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments See! Alternative forms of transportation is the answer!


message 79: by Arminius (new)

Arminius Misha wrote: "Speaking of which, I just drove through a town in which someone galloped up to the supermarket on a horse."

He wasn't singing "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" was he?


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RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Two things:

1. Liberal bloggers say Obama is not their boyfriend anymore:

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/17/1372380...

2. Yesterday while at Home Depot I passed a car with an advertisement, stenciled on the window, for "Gentle Equine Massage." What the hell is that?


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Sarah | 13814 comments Misha wrote: "Speaking of which, I just drove through a town in which someone galloped up to the supermarket on a horse."

I've been through a drivethru on a horse more than a couple of times. We went to Starbucks on horseback when I was in Carnation.


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Sarah | 13814 comments RandomAnthony wrote: "2. Yesterday while at Home Depot I passed a car with an advertisement, stenciled on the window, for "Gentle Equine Massage." What the hell is that?
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Equine massage is like human massage only for horses. There are also horse acupuncturists.


message 83: by Sarah (last edited Jun 17, 2011 07:43AM) (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments janine wrote: "I'm only here for the ponies. Can i have one too?"

janine, since you are so good with baby goats, you can have a baby knabstrup. He's Danish.

If you would prefer something more local to you, you can have a nice Dutch warmblood.

If you want pony sized, there's this one:
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Bun's Friesians are Dutch too, but you sounded like you wanted smaller.


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janine | 7709 comments Sarah Pi wrote: "janine wrote: "I'm only here for the ponies. Can i have one too?"

janine, since you are so good with baby goats, you can have a baby knabstrup. He's Danish."


I love him!


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janine | 7709 comments Speaking of cute:

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message 86: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments So cute!


message 87: by ~Geektastic~ (last edited Jun 17, 2011 12:02PM) (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Pardon me while I interrupt your serious discussion with this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06...

(seemed like the most appropriate thread at the time)


message 88: by ~Geektastic~ (last edited Jun 17, 2011 02:04PM) (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Regarding #118

That's so cute I actually "awwwwed" quite audibly in the office, provoking the suspicion that I am not working on this month's purchase order spreadsheet.


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Lobstergirl | 24780 comments Mod
janine wrote: "Speaking of cute:
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That is outrageously cute.


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