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message 101: by Almeta (last edited Dec 13, 2013 10:48AM) (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11463 comments Lynn G. wrote: "Here's another question: How do I choose a valid shelf name for a challenge? Is the shelf name one I already have within the "My Books" category? How do I get the challenge to recognize the shelf..."

You could create a YLTO!-Challenge shelf and put your challenge books there.

What shelf did you use? Did you mark your book with the date read?

You need not apologize. These are valid questions. We are all a helpful bunch here!☺


message 102: by Lynn G. (new)

Lynn G. Almeta, I named the shelf ylto-dec-cozy-mystery-challenge (in GR speak) and the date that I read it Dec 2 2013 (but the "date added" is Dec 3 2013 because I never marked it as "currently reading". Don't know if that makes a difference.) Thanks to you and Esther who have taken me under your wings (:


message 103: by Lori Z (new)

Lori Z | 2089 comments Lynn G. wrote: "Here's another question: How do I choose a valid shelf name for a challenge? Is the shelf name one I already have within the "My Books" category? How do I get the challenge to recognize the shelf..."

I'm having the same problem. I set up a shelf titled "ylto monthly challenge books" and when I hit save it says "user shelf not entered". Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!


message 104: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments Lynn G. wrote: "Almeta, I named the shelf ylto-dec-cozy-mystery-challenge (in GR speak) and the date that I read it Dec 2 2013 (but the "date added" is Dec 3 2013 because I never marked it as "currently reading". ..."

It shouldn't matter what the add date is because my understanding is that the challenges look at the date read.

You may need to pop over to the Goodreads feedback group and make a query there. I'm wondering if there is a glitch.


message 105: by Janice, Moderator (last edited Dec 13, 2013 10:28PM) (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments Lori Z wrote: "Lynn G. wrote: "Here's another question: How do I choose a valid shelf name for a challenge? Is the shelf name one I already have within the "My Books" category? How do I get the challenge to rec..."

Did you enter the dashes between the words when you indicated which shelf the challenge was to reference?

You would need to type: ylto-monthly-challenge-books

EDIT: I just looked at your shelves and you have a shelf named ylto monthly challenge boo. You'll need to rename your shelf and then try again.


message 106: by Lori Z (new)

Lori Z | 2089 comments Janice wrote: "Lori Z wrote: "Lynn G. wrote: "Here's another question: How do I choose a valid shelf name for a challenge? Is the shelf name one I already have within the "My Books" category? How do I get the c..."

Lol! Well, that's what I get for working on this at 12:00 o'clock at night.
Thanks Janice, I'll give it a try.


message 107: by Tasha (new)

Tasha I was having the same problem and as soon as I added the dashes, it worked!


message 108: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11463 comments Lynn G. wrote: "Almeta, I named the shelf ylto-dec-cozy-mystery-challenge (in GR speak) and the date that I read it Dec 2 2013 (but the "date added" is Dec 3 2013 because I never marked it as "currently reading". ..."

It looks as though you have solved your shelving problem.

Just so you know, the "date added" should not matter. Many of us have entered books that were read waaaay before joining GoodReads. As Janice said, it is the "date read" that counts.


message 109: by Roz (new)

Roz | 4540 comments I have a problem. I recently entered a Giveaway and added the book to my tbr shelf but inadvertently my fat finger hit the 1 star rating without my noticing. The author notified me, irate and making all kinds of accusations. I apologized, assured her that it was a mistake and not meant to offend, but she really wasn't accepting that. I didn't see any way to take out the star. I tried removing the book from my tbr but the book page remained the same (with my 1 star rating, actually the only rating). Of course the author was still angry. I contacted Goodreads about the problem to see if they could remove the mistake from their side. Has anyone else encountered "fat finger syndrome", or made this kind of mistake? I can't believe I'm the only one in all of Goodreads history to do this. Is there an easier way (that doesn't involve irate authors) to fix this kind of error? I checked the book page this morning and now the star is gone but I don't know if Goodreads did it for me, of if all my manipulations worked.


message 110: by Esther (new)

Esther (nyctale) | 5198 comments Roz wrote: "I have a problem. I recently entered a Giveaway and added the book to my tbr shelf but inadvertently my fat finger hit the 1 star rating without my noticing. The author notified me, irate and makin..."

Having an ipad, i do this all the time. (And am I glad the "flag" item is not automatic). It usually take me a few tries but i always manage to delete the book and reenter it properly.


message 111: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11463 comments Roz wrote: "I have a problem. I recently entered a Giveaway and added the book to my tbr shelf but inadvertently my fat finger hit the 1 star rating without my noticing. ......Is there an easier way (that doesn't involve irate authors) to fix this kind of error? .."

If you edit your review page of the book, there is a faint "clear" link right next to the stars. That should let you start over appropriately.


message 112: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments Roz wrote: "I have a problem. I recently entered a Giveaway and added the book to my tbr shelf but inadvertently my fat finger hit the 1 star rating without my noticing. The author notified me, irate and makin..."

I don't think you can change a rating to zero once it's been rated. You can rate it up or down, but not remove the rating. Contacting Goodreads is likely the only way you can address that.

Why is the author chastising you for your error, and not accepting your explanation? That needs to be reported to Goodreads as well. This rating war is what caused all the recent commotion.


message 113: by Roz (new)

Roz | 4540 comments I wish there was a message that popped up when a rating was entered ("Are you sure you want to do that?"). It was definitely a mistake on my part. I think this is this author's first (only) book and she checks to see who has purchased her books. At one point she offered me a free copy so I could read it and get my rating right, but I really don't want anything to do with it. If I read it and truly though it rated 1 star, she'd think I was just being mean and personal. If I gave it more, how could she be sure the rating was just out of guilt? I'd rather just write her off as anxious about sales, and a tad insecure. Next time I'll be more careful with my "fat finger".


message 114: by Roz (new)

Roz | 4540 comments Almeta wrote: "Roz wrote: "I have a problem. I recently entered a Giveaway and added the book to my tbr shelf but inadvertently my fat finger hit the 1 star rating without my noticing. ......Is there an easier wa..."

Oh, Almeta! I never noticed that. I wish I had known that. I didn't think of asking in this section until this morning. All of this happened yesterday during the Toppler and it was very disturbing. Next time I'll know what to do.


message 115: by Lilisa (new)

Lilisa | 2770 comments Roz wrote: "I wish there was a message that popped up when a rating was entered ("Are you sure you want to do that?"). It was definitely a mistake on my part. I think this is this author's first (only) book an..."

If that didn't work, maybe deleting the book from your list and starting over with that particular book would work? Regardless, the author needs to get over it. In your case the rating was a mistake; however, someone else might genuinely rate the book a 1. That's the reader's opinion and the author should not be unprofessional and angry over a reader's rating and hound the reader. Ratings are our prerogative. I'm with Janice - Goodreads should know about this. This author is making Goodreads look bad.


message 116: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments I think the solution could be as simple as a second touch on the star to clear it would work. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not under discussion in the Goodread's Feedback group. There has been a lot of discussion about ratings.


message 117: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Dec 15, 2013 03:39PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments Mistakes happen. Don't stress about it at all. You've apologised and are trying to fix it. Nothing more you can do, and you can't expect to be perfect all the time. The author should be able to understand that and appreciate it may take time to work out how to fix it. Or help you work out how to fix it. I completely understand not wanting to read the book after being confronted like that.

I agree with people saying report the author. Goodreads needs to be aware of this situation. They have put a lot of effort into looking after authors from being abused, but they need to do the same for readers having bad and aggressive reactions from authors. They say they are doing this, but if they don't know how prevalent it is, it's hard to react accordingly. The authors did this, which is why they got some action taken.


message 118: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments I join late to this club, so many of the challenges I haven't been able to do 8(
I have a question do, if a new challenge starts, how do I know this is happening? I always get emails about updates, but I really don't know what was the first threat for it... I'm very confused :/


message 119: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments Michelle wrote: "I join late to this club, so many of the challenges I haven't been able to do 8(
I have a question do, if a new challenge starts, how do I know this is happening? I always get emails about updates,..."


You will find the challenges under the folder "Challenges". (To get there, click on the link titled "Discussion" at the top right hand side of any page in the group.) The current and new challenges are at the top of the list.

You will find the Year Long Challenge under it's own folder.

If you click on the link that reads "unread" (you will find it on the top right hand side under the box where you found the discussion link), all unread messages will display. Because you are new to the group, there will be a lot. I would read the most current messages and those you are interested in, then mark them all as read (link on bottom of page). Then next time you click the link there will only be current ones.

Best thing to do is spend some time exploring. Click all those links and see what they do and where they take you. :)


message 120: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments Thanks Janice! Always so helpful... ;)


message 121: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments And a heads up Michelle. January Challenge will be posted next week, in order to give people time to raid libraries if they wish before Jan 1st


message 122: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments Rusalka wrote: "And a heads up Michelle. January Challenge will be posted next week, in order to give people time to raid libraries if they wish before Jan 1st"

Thank you Rusalka, that's nice to know... I'll be in the look out.


message 123: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I just switched editions of the book I'm currently reading, and now all my updates on the book (page updates and comments I made) have disappeared. Does that always happen when you simply change the edition you're reading?


message 124: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) | 1793 comments I had to go try it out to see if it does for me too.
When I switched editions I lost the updates as well. I switched back and the updates were there again. So maybe they are linked directly to the editions and not the overall book??


message 125: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Oh thanks for checking Dawn! Good to know they're still there, I'll switch back then.


message 126: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11463 comments Peggy wrote: "Oh thanks for checking Dawn! Good to know they're still there, I'll switch back then."

You might check for duplicates. It is likely that you have two separate editions on your shelves.

(When on "My Books" view, duplicates is close to the bottom of your left-side list of shelves.)


message 127: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Hm, I checked but I have no duplicates. I changed it back to the other edition. Shouldn't their be a warning or something when you change editions, saying that when you do, you won't be able to see your updates anymore? (I know this is nothing anyone from ylto can do something about, but I was just wondering)


message 128: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11463 comments Peggy wrote: "Hm, I checked but I have no duplicates. I changed it back to the other edition. Shouldn't their be a warning or something when you change editions, saying that when you do, you won't be able to see your updates anymore? ..."

Hmm, I was sure that a duplicate had been created. Some of us use another edition when we re-read a book, so that the original read date stays intact and the newer re-read date can be counted, as well, in our stats.

And then of course there is the desire to actually review a separate edition, from the original read...perhaps because of a different translation, or with a certain illustrator, or to compare the abridged to the unabridged, etc.

If, however, you are not creating a duplicate, then I do think that your information should follow your "switched to" edition. This is probably an issue for the Feedback Group, to whom you can report a bug.


message 129: by Kat (new)

Kat (katzombie) | 2478 comments Peggy wrote: "Hm, I checked but I have no duplicates. I changed it back to the other edition. Shouldn't their be a warning or something when you change editions, saying that when you do, you won't be able to see..."

I've had this problem in the last few weeks too - I'd recommend bringing it up in the GR feedback group - I change editions more than I change my socks and it never used to be a problem.


message 130: by Cherie (last edited Jan 02, 2014 12:21PM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Peggy wrote: "I just switched editions of the book I'm currently reading, and now all my updates on the book (page updates and comments I made) have disappeared. Does that always happen when you simply change th..."

I think so, Peggy. It happened to me on the last book I was trying to update my review for. I could not figure out how to get my status comments back. I am surprised the GR guys did not hear me complaining!

LOL, Kat. My respons is that I have now learned to make sure not to change the edition if I have started to make comments, or make sure the edition I am reading is the one I want before I move it to the currently reading catagory.


message 131: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Thanks for all your replies, good to know it's not just me.


message 132: by Nancy from NJ (new)

Katz Nancy from NJ (nancyk18) I thought this was where there was a discussion of how to make a checkmark but I must be mistaken.

In any event does anybody know how to make a checkmark?
Thanks.


message 133: by Marnie (last edited Jan 18, 2014 02:18PM) (new)

Marnie (marnie19) | 3263 comments Nancy- without any spaces type


& # 1 0 0 04 ;-- which makes ✔--


message 134: by Nancy from NJ (new)

Katz Nancy from NJ (nancyk18) Thanks Marnie.




message 135: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) | 1793 comments And & #9733 with no spaces will make ★


message 136: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Jan 18, 2014 04:53PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments -If you ever get stuck and on a pc, go to your start menu and in accessories is your Character map. You can copy -and paste any of those in+to +your message.
-****-
O-r a-/l-ternativey- you can g
et a -chicken -to * stand on your keyboard for interesting symbol placement like this.


message 137: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59984 comments ROFL. That gives a whole new slant to pecking out a message on the keyboard.


message 138: by Pragya (new)

Pragya  (reviewingshelf) | 4039 comments ROFL Rusalka, you are a hoot!


message 139: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments Rusalka,

I'm confused... 8[


message 140: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments Sorry Michelle, I have a baby chicken in my house at the moment (although baby is pushing it at the moment, she's just ready to go outside now). She likes to stand on my keyboard while I type. When she weighed a few grams, this was fine. Now she is about 1kg, it causes problems.

As we were talking about symbols, I thought i'd leave in the chicken's contributions from her standing on the number pad and pecking other symbol keys as I was typing.

If you're confused about the actual Character Map, it holds a copy of all the symbols your computer can create through those codes above (ASCII codes). As I can't remember them all, I tend to copy and paste the symbols out of the map.


message 141: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments Thank you so much for the info Rusalka... I had to Google it. I didn't know that you had to press Fn key + the Alt key together when you are working on a laptop...


message 142: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Rusalka - too cute! You shoud post a picture.


message 143: by Cherie (last edited Jan 20, 2014 05:49PM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments  ♥ - look what I found. I had to go one more level down in my Accessories map though. My Character Map was under System Tools. Thanks Rusalka!


message 144: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments Ooop sorry. Must be in different places on different versions of windows, sorry. You should be able to search for it if nothing else.

I still can't find certain things in Windows 8. I was trying to find my list of programs. I had no idea. The chicken pulls it up all the time when she sleeps on my keyboard. I honestly had to put her on my keyboard, leave the room, and when I came back it was up. Her feet must be in the perfect place for the shortcut.


message 145: by Esther (new)

Esther (nyctale) | 5198 comments Rusalka wrote: "Ooop sorry. Must be in different places on different versions of windows, sorry. You should be able to search for it if nothing else.

I still can't find certain things in Windows 8. I was trying t..."


LOL I have to remember this one. I should put this in one of tech procedures' emails. "If you cannot find it, try putting a chicken on the keyboard first. Then , if that fails, call me." At least I would know if they actually really read the darn emails.


message 146: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Rusalka wrote: "Ooop sorry. Must be in different places on different versions of windows, sorry. You should be able to search for it if nothing else.

I still can't find certain things in Windows 8. I was trying t..."


What was important for me was that I found it and that I can use it!
I would love to have a chicken to set on my keyboard, but Intel might be upset if I told them I had to have my laptop replaced because one of those dangerous little "love packages" they can leave behind.

A long time ago, I went to work one morning without checking the back of my shirt before leaving home. I was stopped in the hallway by a friend, who whispered in my ear about the large green stain deposited there by my baby parrot (he is 25 now). I drove back home to change my shirt. :)


message 147: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments Esther wrote: "Rusalka wrote: "Ooop sorry. Must be in different places on different versions of windows, sorry. You should be able to search for it if nothing else.

I still can't find certain things in Windows 8..."


HAHA! I do this to my PhD Students all the time. It's really worth it for the one person who comes back and goes "Umm...".


message 148: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19214 comments Cherie wrote: "A long time ago, I went to work one morning without checking the back of my shirt before leaving home. I was stopped in the hallway by a friend, who whispered in my ear about the large green stain deposited there by my baby parrot (he is 25 now). I drove back home to change my shirt. :)"

I had an old work mate with two cockatiels. He walked past my desk every morning on the way to his, and I frequently had to tell him that he had been "decorated". He kept a spare shirt in his desk at work for this reason.


message 149: by Michelle T. (new)

Michelle T. (chely1217) | 148 comments Cherie wrote: " ♥ - look what I found. I had to go one more level down in my Accessories map though. My Character Map was under System Tools. Thanks Rusalka!"

Cherie, thank you I found it, and its easier than the one I figure it out last time... ♥


message 150: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Michelle wrote: "Cherie wrote: " ♥ - look what I found. I had to go one more level down in my Accessories map though. My Character Map was under System Tools. Thanks Rusalka!"

Cherie, thank you I found it, and ..."


☆ I found this on another thread today. I copied it and pasted it here. :)


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