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message 101: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
Welcome Edward!

It's been a little slow around here lately--I'm hoping that it's just because of summer (vacations and stuff like that), and things will pick up soon. It's time for another Book of the Month selection...


message 102: by Michael (new)

Michael | 3 comments Hello all! I have just recently joined this group and am excited for there to be some activity. I have been a member of other groups, but they all tend to be female-centric, so reading suggestions by men for men is just what I have been looking for! I'm excited for the next book selection!


message 103: by Edward (new)

Edward (ladd101) | 31 comments Hello Michael. I just joined so not sure how active the club is, but I'm happy to have you join and share ideas. I recently read "City of Thieves" and "A Boy's Life" based on recommendations I saw here. I would highly recommend City of Thieves. A Boy's Life wasn't bad, but didn't knock my socks off. However, books can be very subjective so take it for what it's worth. I just started reading "A River Runs Through It" and only a couple pages in, so no idea if I'm gonna like it or not. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them. I basically only read on my kindle so I'm always looking for e-book versions.


message 104: by Chris, Founder (new)

Chris (cfelix) | 67 comments Mod
Hello Michael! Welcome to the group! As Bill mentions above it has been slow lately. I guess I am mostly to blame! While the root of this group lies here, I feel like Facebook is a lot more frequently used by many, so I think more conversation may happen over there!

Would love it if you checked the Facebook group out at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/13978...

Tell your friends!


message 105: by Edward (new)

Edward (ladd101) | 31 comments The pressure to join facebook is relentless lol.


message 106: by Chris, Founder (new)

Chris (cfelix) | 67 comments Mod
Edward wrote: "The pressure to join facebook is relentless lol."

No pressure Edward! Just figured everyone doesn't know and thought I'd mention it!


message 107: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
I'm not much of a Facebooker, but I suppose I can give it a try. I tend to spend more time here looking for book ideas than on Facebook.


message 108: by Chris, Founder (new)

Chris (cfelix) | 67 comments Mod
Bill wrote: "I'm not much of a Facebooker, but I suppose I can give it a try. I tend to spend more time here looking for book ideas than on Facebook."

That's completely understandable! Don't worry, people will still be here too!


message 109: by Liz (new)

Liz (Lizzyr) | 8 comments I'm with Bill on this one!
Just wanted to note that our men's prison group just read Louise Erdrich's The Round House and we had a really great discussion about it. She's not one men might think of reading necessarily but the main character here is a boy coming of age in the face of a brutal attack on his mother.
We also read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which I hadn't ever read. It was terrific!


message 110: by Governor (new)

Governor (governorhippo) | 1 comments Hi everyone, I saw this group and had to join :-D I hope to have many interesting conversations here, and find some good books to read.


message 111: by Dan (new)

Dan | 4 comments Nice to meet all of you. I am just getting back into reading.

Some of my favorites include: Green River Running Red, Holes and Harry Potter (the series). I also like graphic novels and nonfiction.

I hope to branch out and find some good things to read.


message 112: by Yehuda (new)

Yehuda (masterhoods) | 1 comments Hi,

Nice to find a group of men who read. We tend to be a rare creature. I'm 20 years old. I read pretty much everything that's good. My favorite genres are fantasy and sci-fi. Hope to meet like minded people and broaden my reading interests.


message 113: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
Welcome!

This is a great place to get ideas for books to read--I've found several that I probably would not have discovered on my own.


message 114: by Daniel (last edited Jan 08, 2016 11:04PM) (new)

Daniel | 1 comments Hi guys,

Thank you all for making this haven.
Looking at the readers choice awards, I realized that there's a bit of a trend in what's popular on goodreads. Awesome to have a guys perspective on books from time to time,

Cheers,

Daniel


message 115: by Roderick (new)

Roderick Vincent | 16 comments Certainly true, Daniel, and I agree. Will be getting into Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? within the next couple of days here.


message 116: by Chris, Founder (new)

Chris (cfelix) | 67 comments Mod
Daniel wrote: "Hi guys,

Thank you all for making this haven.
Looking at the readers choice awards, I realized that there's a bit of a trend in what's popular on goodreads. Awesome to have a guys perspective on b..."


My pleasure! I hope you enjoy your stay here and discover some new books and discuss them with others. Welcome aboard!


message 117: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 19, 2016 03:03PM) (new)

Hey everyone.

I'm probably the odd one out in that I'm probably the youngest guy here (22 years old). Seems like a lot of guys my age aren't really into reading.


message 118: by Roderick (new)

Roderick Vincent | 16 comments Probably true Mick, unfortunately. Anyway welcome. BTW Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Blade Runner film) kicks serious ass so far.


message 119: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 20, 2016 08:52AM) (new)

I can't help but wonder if it's because guys my age see reading (or anything that pertains to learning) as an affront to masculinity.

There's just no incentive for them to read in my opinion. Not only do I suspect that they are too scared of looking a certain way, I also feel like there aren't enough books written for that demographic. Look at any young adult section at the bookstore and you'll noticed it's replete with books written only from a female perspective.

What do you guys think?


message 120: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
I do agree that a relatively high percentage of bookstores/libraries these days are targeted toward women (thanks, Oprah).

I'm not sure I buy the 'scared of looking a certain way' reasoning. Reading Tom Clancy has always seemed socially acceptable for men. I didn't read much in my 20s (or my 30s), but it was mostly because of other priorities for both time and money in my life at the time.


message 121: by Roderick (new)

Roderick Vincent | 16 comments Women are like 80% of total readers. It's ridiculously lopsided. I'm not quite sure why that is. There's a whole genre devoted to women, ie. "Women's Fiction", where the category "Men's adventure" is small. Not sure of any other "men's categories". I tend to write with the male perspective in mind, and that's probably a mistake.


message 122: by David (new)

David Black | 21 comments No idea why so few men are readers any more. It seems even more pronounced when it comes to fiction. I know a few men who might read a history or biography but wouldn't dare pick up a novel.
It seems a shame...I've been a bookworm as long as I can remember, and like quality books in just about any genre.


message 123: by Roderick (new)

Roderick Vincent | 16 comments Yeah, most men I know tend to be into non-fiction. Escapism probably comes from TV. I wasn't a bookworm growing up, but several great English teachers got me into literature. From reading Crime and Punishment as a senior in high school, my reading life took off from there. I enjoy both nonfiction and fiction.

David and Bill, we have quite a similarity in our tastes. Maybe you guys would like Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?


message 124: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
I read Androids about a year ago--a very solid read.


message 125: by David (last edited Jan 22, 2016 12:14PM) (new)

David Black | 21 comments Roderick wrote: "Yeah, most men I know tend to be into non-fiction. Escapism probably comes from TV. I wasn't a bookworm growing up, but several great English teachers got me into literature. From reading [book:Cri..."

I'd like to read Androids...I remember loving the movie Blade Runner, which was based on it. I've just got so many other books going right now that I am hesitant to start something new. Maybe once I clear my nightstand off a bit!

I agree that a lot of men think of a ball game on TV and a beer as their means of escapism. Nothing wrong with that, but a good book and a finger or two of good bourbon works as well!


message 126: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
"... a good book and a finger or two of good bourbon works as well! "

That's the way I like to escape.


message 127: by Michael (new)

Michael | 3 comments Mick, I am not much older than you (26), and I can agree that most guys I know are not into reading. I have always been a reader, and have never understood why more guys are averse to reading. I'm sure the heavy emphasis that book publishers have toward a female audience has much to do with it. It's a shame that more effort is not made by them to reach out to make readers.


message 128: by Dug (new)

Dug Re: guys reading
I find it interesting that comic book reading is dominated by males. I enjoy reading both comics and novels myself, but I wonder if guys (generalization obv) are not as driven to experience a narrators inner thoughts/feelings. Comics are mostly external voice and action.
If true, is it on book/authors to "externalize"?
Or do males need to develop more empathy?


message 129: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 31, 2016 11:07AM) (new)

I do believe that publishers need to think of the male demographic a little more.

But to blame it all on them won't get to the root of the problem. You can write books targeted towards younger guys all you want, but if a lot of guys have the mentality that reading is effeminate, that's not going to help all that much.

When I was in high school, most guys didn't want to be caught dead looking smart. Being dumb, crass, and loud was much more valued than looking smart.

That said, I think change of attitude starts at home. If more fathers (or any male figure) would read in front of their sons, that would help facilitate the idea that reading is more acceptable for boys.


message 130: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
That's a good point, Mick.

I remember seeing my father reading almost daily when I was growing up. Now that I have kids of my own, I try to keep my reading as visible to them as my father's reading was to me.

I read alongside my younger son (11) most nights at bedtime (he reads his book, I read mine). My older son (almost 13) is a more reluctant reader--he needs books that hold his interest. I invest quite a bit of time searching out new books for him, and I usually end up reading them myself so we can talk about them and (hopefully) keep up his interest level.


message 131: by Joerg (new)

Joerg | 1 comments Hi Everybody!
I'm Joerg from Munich, Germany. I'm 44 years old, happily married father of three amazing kids (age 12,13 19 y/o).

I'm really happy to have found this group and I'm looking forward to reading and discussing some great books with your guys.

Cheers from Oktoberfest-City ;-)

Joerg


message 132: by Michael (new)

Michael Murphy (mmurfy) | 2 comments Mystery author. My current Jake and Laura series is a Prohibition-era mystery series published by Penguin Random House Alibi. I'm in Arizona with my wife of over forty years and our five recently adopted children.

The Big Brush-off A Jake & Laura Mystery by Michael Murphy
Today is the release of The Big Brush-off. You can download the ebook for just $2.99.


message 133: by Matt aka (new)

Matt aka (fantasyworldwriter) | 1 comments I also enjoyed Ready Player One. I read or listen to about a book a week and have about 30 of my reviews on my website at www.fantasyworldwriter.com


message 134: by J. (last edited Apr 22, 2016 09:15AM) (new)

J. Boo | 7 comments Gosh, "Miles", you really like that book.


message 135: by Jeff (new)

Jeff K | 10 comments Hi everyone, just joined the group and am eager to see what men are reading... FULL DISCLOSURE: I have a book out that is humorous fiction and my male friends think it's a riot and my wife & female friends think is just okay. I'm eager to get a broader perspective because a sequel is in the works. Title: Eating Trees, by Jeff Koppelson. Available as ebook, audiobook, and paperback on Amazon. Except for humor, I personally like history and am presently reading Gotham by Burrows & Wallace. It's an amazing early history of New York City and it is very long, so you have to really be into it, which I am.


message 136: by Richard (last edited May 07, 2016 08:14PM) (new)

Richard M (rmaseles) | 9 comments Hello. After reading this article, I thought I'd come to goodreads, a place I should visit more often than I do, to see if a group like this existed...and here you are. I like James Lee Burke and James Crumley books before they ran out of ideas, Shibumi by Trevanian, Hungry as the Sea by Wilbur Smith, Shantaram, Beat the Reaper by Josh Bazell, books about Paris in the 20s and 30s or written by people who lived there during that time (Hemingway, Henry Miller, Anais Nin). I have a long commute and for that, I prefer nonfiction about things that interest me ("Atlantic" and "Pacific" by Simon Winchester, and Skyfaring). The common thread of much of those books are wanderlust. I'll be interested to see what you guys are reading.


message 137: by Jeff (new)

Jeff K | 10 comments Richard wrote: "Hello. After reading this article, I thought I'd come to goodreads, a place I should visit more often than I do, to see if a group like this existed...and here you are. I like James Lee Burke and J..."

Did you ever read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? It's fiction but it was the iconic book out of the early 70's about anomie and wanderlust (and a terrific subplot about mental illness). It requires concentration so I don't know how it would work on your commute, but I can honestly say it's one of my all-time favorite books. As a writer myself, I continue to be amazed by the structure and style of Pirsig's work.


message 138: by Richard (new)

Richard M (rmaseles) | 9 comments Jeff wrote: "Richard wrote: "Hello. After reading this article, I thought I'd come to goodreads, a place I should visit more often than I do, to see if a group like this existed...and here you are. I like James..."

Thanks. I read it when it came out, and reread it recently. Since then, I've read the book from where Pirsig took his title (and a lot of the sense and tone), Zen in the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel, and a more recent book Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew Crawford. But you're right about books that require a lot of concentration not being as good for commutes, at least when I'm driving. Meditation books are the absolute worst. ;^)


message 139: by Jeff (new)

Jeff K | 10 comments Richard wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Richard wrote: "Hello. After reading this article, I thought I'd come to goodreads, a place I should visit more often than I do, to see if a group like this existed...and here you are...."

Thanks for two good leads. And try not to drive and read.


message 140: by Mike (new)

Mike | 1 comments Chris wrote: "I would just like to welcome you to the NEW Men's Book Club. Here we will talk about our favorite books and what new books we are excited about.

I am looking forward to having this group grow. I ..."


Howdy,

High School English teacher here. Looking for ways to keep up on newer readings to keep fresh for my students.

Some of my favorites:

The Rules of Survival by Nancy Werlin--This YA story is the best portrayal of what it's like for boys with no father-figure and the void they have to fill. Nancy nailed it.

Sold--Also YA about a young Nepali girl sold into the slave trade. Having lived in Southeast Asia for years, this story resonated with me.

Access for Dummies--I LOVE databases. LOVE LOVE LOVE databases. Drooling seriously.

X-men, the first ten issues.

The Odyssey--Yet another fatherless boy becoming a man story. Those are always of interest to me.

Jane Eyre--Romance done exactly as it should be.


message 141: by Eric (new)

Eric (eandersonwi) | 6 comments Hi. I'm Eric. I like to read, and I understand that the first step is admitting that you have a problem.


message 142: by Jeff (new)

Jeff | 2 comments Glad to find this group.


message 143: by Mike (new)

Mike | 2 comments As Jeff mentioned, I'm glad to have run across this group and look forward to seeing what others are reading. I will also recommend books I have enjoyed.

I just finished the "John Rain" series by Barry Eisler.
I also enjoyed the "Repairman Jack" series by F. Paul Wilson which had more of a sci-fi flavor.


message 144: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
Welcome to the group, Mike.

I am not familiar with the books you named. Be sure to add them to your 'read' list so we can all get familiar with them. I get a lot of good reading ideas from browsing through other members' reading lists on Goodreads.


message 145: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
Welcome to the club!

Activity around here seems to ebb and flow as members try to balance our reading lives with our real lives.

I have not read Lonesome Dove. It's been on my 'to read' list, but always seems to get pushed down in favor of something else.

We don't have a formal group read set up yet, but I know that a couple of us were thinking of reading The Underground Railroad this summer.

Any and all ideas or suggestions for a group read are welcome.


message 146: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
The group is definitely overdue for a group read.

I've read No Country for Old Men and Fight Club in the last year or so.

I do have The Godfather on my summer reading list--it's one of those books that I can't believe I haven't read already.


message 147: by David (new)

David Black | 21 comments I'd be up for a summer group read, as well.

I just read The Underground Railroad a month or so ago, so that would work nicely for me...it would help me balance my reading life with my real life, as Bill put it. One less book to read on the "to-do" list.

Happy to join in on a group read for a different book, too.


message 148: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
I created a group read thread for The Godfather under the 'Currently Reading' section.

Hopefully we get enough interest and can start lining up more books for ongoing group reads.


message 149: by Bill, Admin (new)

Bill K | 116 comments Mod
Sorry David--I think I misread your post and thought that you would favor the Godfather over Underground Railroad for the group read.

Sorry about that.


message 150: by David (new)

David Black | 21 comments Bill wrote: "Sorry David--I think I misread your post and thought that you would favor the Godfather over Underground Railroad for the group read.

Sorry about that."


The Godfather is fine. I've read that one, but it was at least 40 years ago. (Man! How it hurts to do the math on that.) Due for a re-read.


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