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Hello Michael! Welcome to the group! As Bill mentions above it has been slow lately. I guess I am mostly to blame! While the root of this group lies here, I feel like Facebook is a lot more frequently used by many, so I think more conversation may happen over there!
Would love it if you checked the Facebook group out at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/13978...
Tell your friends!
Would love it if you checked the Facebook group out at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/13978...
Tell your friends!
Edward wrote: "The pressure to join facebook is relentless lol."
No pressure Edward! Just figured everyone doesn't know and thought I'd mention it!
No pressure Edward! Just figured everyone doesn't know and thought I'd mention it!
I'm not much of a Facebooker, but I suppose I can give it a try. I tend to spend more time here looking for book ideas than on Facebook.
Bill wrote: "I'm not much of a Facebooker, but I suppose I can give it a try. I tend to spend more time here looking for book ideas than on Facebook."
That's completely understandable! Don't worry, people will still be here too!
That's completely understandable! Don't worry, people will still be here too!

Just wanted to note that our men's prison group just read Louise Erdrich's The Round House and we had a really great discussion about it. She's not one men might think of reading necessarily but the main character here is a boy coming of age in the face of a brutal attack on his mother.
We also read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which I hadn't ever read. It was terrific!


Some of my favorites include: Green River Running Red, Holes and Harry Potter (the series). I also like graphic novels and nonfiction.
I hope to branch out and find some good things to read.

Nice to find a group of men who read. We tend to be a rare creature. I'm 20 years old. I read pretty much everything that's good. My favorite genres are fantasy and sci-fi. Hope to meet like minded people and broaden my reading interests.
Welcome!
This is a great place to get ideas for books to read--I've found several that I probably would not have discovered on my own.
This is a great place to get ideas for books to read--I've found several that I probably would not have discovered on my own.

Thank you all for making this haven.
Looking at the readers choice awards, I realized that there's a bit of a trend in what's popular on goodreads. Awesome to have a guys perspective on books from time to time,
Cheers,
Daniel

Daniel wrote: "Hi guys,
Thank you all for making this haven.
Looking at the readers choice awards, I realized that there's a bit of a trend in what's popular on goodreads. Awesome to have a guys perspective on b..."
My pleasure! I hope you enjoy your stay here and discover some new books and discuss them with others. Welcome aboard!
Thank you all for making this haven.
Looking at the readers choice awards, I realized that there's a bit of a trend in what's popular on goodreads. Awesome to have a guys perspective on b..."
My pleasure! I hope you enjoy your stay here and discover some new books and discuss them with others. Welcome aboard!
Hey everyone.
I'm probably the odd one out in that I'm probably the youngest guy here (22 years old). Seems like a lot of guys my age aren't really into reading.
I'm probably the odd one out in that I'm probably the youngest guy here (22 years old). Seems like a lot of guys my age aren't really into reading.

I can't help but wonder if it's because guys my age see reading (or anything that pertains to learning) as an affront to masculinity.
There's just no incentive for them to read in my opinion. Not only do I suspect that they are too scared of looking a certain way, I also feel like there aren't enough books written for that demographic. Look at any young adult section at the bookstore and you'll noticed it's replete with books written only from a female perspective.
What do you guys think?
There's just no incentive for them to read in my opinion. Not only do I suspect that they are too scared of looking a certain way, I also feel like there aren't enough books written for that demographic. Look at any young adult section at the bookstore and you'll noticed it's replete with books written only from a female perspective.
What do you guys think?
I do agree that a relatively high percentage of bookstores/libraries these days are targeted toward women (thanks, Oprah).
I'm not sure I buy the 'scared of looking a certain way' reasoning. Reading Tom Clancy has always seemed socially acceptable for men. I didn't read much in my 20s (or my 30s), but it was mostly because of other priorities for both time and money in my life at the time.
I'm not sure I buy the 'scared of looking a certain way' reasoning. Reading Tom Clancy has always seemed socially acceptable for men. I didn't read much in my 20s (or my 30s), but it was mostly because of other priorities for both time and money in my life at the time.


It seems a shame...I've been a bookworm as long as I can remember, and like quality books in just about any genre.

David and Bill, we have quite a similarity in our tastes. Maybe you guys would like Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

I'd like to read Androids...I remember loving the movie Blade Runner, which was based on it. I've just got so many other books going right now that I am hesitant to start something new. Maybe once I clear my nightstand off a bit!
I agree that a lot of men think of a ball game on TV and a beer as their means of escapism. Nothing wrong with that, but a good book and a finger or two of good bourbon works as well!
"... a good book and a finger or two of good bourbon works as well! "
That's the way I like to escape.
That's the way I like to escape.


I find it interesting that comic book reading is dominated by males. I enjoy reading both comics and novels myself, but I wonder if guys (generalization obv) are not as driven to experience a narrators inner thoughts/feelings. Comics are mostly external voice and action.
If true, is it on book/authors to "externalize"?
Or do males need to develop more empathy?
I do believe that publishers need to think of the male demographic a little more.
But to blame it all on them won't get to the root of the problem. You can write books targeted towards younger guys all you want, but if a lot of guys have the mentality that reading is effeminate, that's not going to help all that much.
When I was in high school, most guys didn't want to be caught dead looking smart. Being dumb, crass, and loud was much more valued than looking smart.
That said, I think change of attitude starts at home. If more fathers (or any male figure) would read in front of their sons, that would help facilitate the idea that reading is more acceptable for boys.
But to blame it all on them won't get to the root of the problem. You can write books targeted towards younger guys all you want, but if a lot of guys have the mentality that reading is effeminate, that's not going to help all that much.
When I was in high school, most guys didn't want to be caught dead looking smart. Being dumb, crass, and loud was much more valued than looking smart.
That said, I think change of attitude starts at home. If more fathers (or any male figure) would read in front of their sons, that would help facilitate the idea that reading is more acceptable for boys.
That's a good point, Mick.
I remember seeing my father reading almost daily when I was growing up. Now that I have kids of my own, I try to keep my reading as visible to them as my father's reading was to me.
I read alongside my younger son (11) most nights at bedtime (he reads his book, I read mine). My older son (almost 13) is a more reluctant reader--he needs books that hold his interest. I invest quite a bit of time searching out new books for him, and I usually end up reading them myself so we can talk about them and (hopefully) keep up his interest level.
I remember seeing my father reading almost daily when I was growing up. Now that I have kids of my own, I try to keep my reading as visible to them as my father's reading was to me.
I read alongside my younger son (11) most nights at bedtime (he reads his book, I read mine). My older son (almost 13) is a more reluctant reader--he needs books that hold his interest. I invest quite a bit of time searching out new books for him, and I usually end up reading them myself so we can talk about them and (hopefully) keep up his interest level.

I'm Joerg from Munich, Germany. I'm 44 years old, happily married father of three amazing kids (age 12,13 19 y/o).
I'm really happy to have found this group and I'm looking forward to reading and discussing some great books with your guys.
Cheers from Oktoberfest-City ;-)
Joerg


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Did you ever read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? It's fiction but it was the iconic book out of the early 70's about anomie and wanderlust (and a terrific subplot about mental illness). It requires concentration so I don't know how it would work on your commute, but I can honestly say it's one of my all-time favorite books. As a writer myself, I continue to be amazed by the structure and style of Pirsig's work.

Thanks. I read it when it came out, and reread it recently. Since then, I've read the book from where Pirsig took his title (and a lot of the sense and tone), Zen in the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel, and a more recent book Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew Crawford. But you're right about books that require a lot of concentration not being as good for commutes, at least when I'm driving. Meditation books are the absolute worst. ;^)

Thanks for two good leads. And try not to drive and read.

I am looking forward to having this group grow. I ..."
Howdy,
High School English teacher here. Looking for ways to keep up on newer readings to keep fresh for my students.
Some of my favorites:
The Rules of Survival by Nancy Werlin--This YA story is the best portrayal of what it's like for boys with no father-figure and the void they have to fill. Nancy nailed it.
Sold--Also YA about a young Nepali girl sold into the slave trade. Having lived in Southeast Asia for years, this story resonated with me.
Access for Dummies--I LOVE databases. LOVE LOVE LOVE databases. Drooling seriously.
X-men, the first ten issues.
The Odyssey--Yet another fatherless boy becoming a man story. Those are always of interest to me.
Jane Eyre--Romance done exactly as it should be.


I just finished the "John Rain" series by Barry Eisler.
I also enjoyed the "Repairman Jack" series by F. Paul Wilson which had more of a sci-fi flavor.
Welcome to the group, Mike.
I am not familiar with the books you named. Be sure to add them to your 'read' list so we can all get familiar with them. I get a lot of good reading ideas from browsing through other members' reading lists on Goodreads.
I am not familiar with the books you named. Be sure to add them to your 'read' list so we can all get familiar with them. I get a lot of good reading ideas from browsing through other members' reading lists on Goodreads.
Welcome to the club!
Activity around here seems to ebb and flow as members try to balance our reading lives with our real lives.
I have not read Lonesome Dove. It's been on my 'to read' list, but always seems to get pushed down in favor of something else.
We don't have a formal group read set up yet, but I know that a couple of us were thinking of reading The Underground Railroad this summer.
Any and all ideas or suggestions for a group read are welcome.
Activity around here seems to ebb and flow as members try to balance our reading lives with our real lives.
I have not read Lonesome Dove. It's been on my 'to read' list, but always seems to get pushed down in favor of something else.
We don't have a formal group read set up yet, but I know that a couple of us were thinking of reading The Underground Railroad this summer.
Any and all ideas or suggestions for a group read are welcome.
The group is definitely overdue for a group read.
I've read No Country for Old Men and Fight Club in the last year or so.
I do have The Godfather on my summer reading list--it's one of those books that I can't believe I haven't read already.
I've read No Country for Old Men and Fight Club in the last year or so.
I do have The Godfather on my summer reading list--it's one of those books that I can't believe I haven't read already.

I just read The Underground Railroad a month or so ago, so that would work nicely for me...it would help me balance my reading life with my real life, as Bill put it. One less book to read on the "to-do" list.
Happy to join in on a group read for a different book, too.
I created a group read thread for The Godfather under the 'Currently Reading' section.
Hopefully we get enough interest and can start lining up more books for ongoing group reads.
Hopefully we get enough interest and can start lining up more books for ongoing group reads.
Sorry David--I think I misread your post and thought that you would favor the Godfather over Underground Railroad for the group read.
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.

Sorry about that."
The Godfather is fine. I've read that one, but it was at least 40 years ago. (Man! How it hurts to do the math on that.) Due for a re-read.
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