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Hunt the Moon (Cassandra Palmer #5)
Kayl wrote: "OMG Hunt the Moon left me with sooo many questions, and im so glad you guys are having the same problem!!First of all, this book was amazing, however there are some bad points in my opinion. Sinc..."
"Anybody else get a sense of dejavu when witnessing cassies mum and her mage? I was screaming in my head at cassie for not recognising that he was her father, I mean hello? but at the same time I was laughing at the crazy antics were so familiar with frim cassie and pritkin becoming evident in her mother and father.. and i loved it to no end. It gave me a sense of hope and a feeling of "fate" about her and pritkin. FYI Cassies mum kicks ass! and the goddess thing didnt bother me, I was getting rather tired of the spartoi and Loki and whatnot but the way Jonas was going on and on about it gave me a lot of laugh out loud moments."
I too felt the "fate" connection. i also agree on the facepalm moment of her taking forever to figure out the mage was her father--I got it right away.
I kept waiting for the trip to Faerie as well, and am waiting anxiously to see how Shadowland changes from the original, which I have a copy of. To be honest though, I would give anything for ANY new short, Pritkin or not. (Pritkin is still prefered.)
I loved HTm!! I loved the duel with the dragon and vampire senates getting a front row seat.
Tasha wrote: "I loved HTm!! I loved the duel with the dragon and vampire senates getting a front row seat."I would have loved to have had some info on what the senates were saying while the fight was taking place. I bet a few had their jaw hanging down.
How many of you want to see Cassie meet Dori?
I keep waiting for Dori to show up too, but I don't think she will, although I do think she'll have to come up soon as 'Mircea opening up to Cassie' moment. I think it would be interesting to see but I don't think they would have the main character from another series show up in this one. But I do think:Midnight's Daughter Spoiler ahead: (view spoiler)
Favorite Scene-Two words : Chalk board! I nearly peed myself with Marsden's attempts at drawing. Master mage failed art class probably lol. Although this scene is tied with the Pizza Joint scene, and Caleb's big realization. I think it is so cool that Caleb now knows the truth and will guard Pritkin's secret. I wonder how that will come into play in the next book.I love the revelation about Cassie's parents, when I read that scene I flashed on her memory of him tossing her in the air and laughing. It seems more fitting.
On another note does anyone else think that some of the other demigods will join her side (other than the Graea)?
1) Favorite scene - probably the shower at mage HQ. I also got a kick out of Caleb's reaction to their relationship. He seemed seriously upset; is it against the rules for a mage to be involved with the Pythia? I don't see how it's much different from her being involved with a vamp?2) Didn't really change my mind, but confirmed my suspicions about Mircea. Despite the fact that his reason is understandable - his parents' deaths made him uber-protective - his form of protection is very condescending. Putting her on house arrest? Telling her she can't see one of her best friends? And because Cassie sees him partly as a father figure, she puts up with that controlling crap. I really hoped she would put her foot down when she compared her situation to being back at Tony's court...
3) Things I want to know: what will happen to Pritkin?!? I hate cliffhangers! Also, I wonder what the fallout will be since apparently the vamps saw "Mircea's wife" making out with the mage, as Marco put it.
Rachel wrote: "I really hoped she would put her foot down when she compared her situation to being back at Tony's court..."Yeah when he came to sit beside her on the steps I was picturing a big dramatic tell-off (although not angry or mean, just resigned) and her saying good-bye and than just shifting away! BUT instead they get sucked back in time again and never even really get to deal with the issue. ARG!
I read on the Cassie P. facebook page that Dory and Cassie will eventually meet and that there's supposed to be something amusing pertaining to that in the next Dory book. I'm hoping it will be something along the lines of Dory saying something to Mircea about the Pythia making out with a hot mage on his lawn!
Hunt the Moon by far is my favorite in this series(although the little cliff hanger at the end has me going crazy!) I thought the other books tended to go into a little TOO much description/history lesson/background at some points that had me just skimming over them after a couple paragraphs to get back to the "present". They would just sort of stall out in some places, but then hit the ground running again. HTM didn't do that as much. Part of what I love and hate about this series is the constant swapping in my mind which man I want Cassie to end up with. Pritkin has pushed towards the lead more an more with each book. Cassie is like a beautiful butterfly...she's wild and can't be tamed. She deserves and yearns to be free but needs somewhere to land that's safe.
Mircea loves her, without a doubt in my mind, but he wants to put her in a glass jar and pull her out when he needs her. I also suspect he has more of a fatherly affection towards her at times. Even though they make love, I don't think he's realized she's an adult except in body. He still treats her like the 11 yr old.
Pritkin has ALWAYS wanted her to be free but wanted her to learn to fend for herself. Even when he'd tell her he didn't think she should do this or that and she didn't listen, he was there with her, following her lead, allowing her to do her job and protecting her. He never "ordered" her to do anything unless he was ordering her to leave him behind so she wouldn't sacrifice herself for him. That is only because he has always valued her life more than his. Mircea has protected her....Pritkin has SAVED her. Pritkin has went through so many more battles and worse ones with Cassie, but still he doesn't let his fear for her well being give him reason to lock her up into a nice safe place. He just steps up his game as a protector.
Mircea has went through some battles yes, but he was wanting to lock her up long before the worse ones. Pritkin gives her everything...what she needs to live, be free, be herself and do her job....if given the chance he could give her soooo much more as we've seen in this last book.
She loves him and I believe if it came down to saving Pritkin or Mircea, she'll choose Pritkin. She knows he offers everything, with no strings attached and with complete loyalty...that's love. Mircea will always be torn between loyalties with her and the senate...that's politics.
Jessica wrote: "I read on the Cassie P. facebook page that Dory and Cassie will eventually meet and that there's supposed to be something amusing pertaining to that in the next Dory book. I'm hoping it will be som..."i cant wait till i read about mircea reaction about that nxt time he talk's to cassie and what she'll say in return, like she was NAKED and on top of pritkin in mircea's yard!! - hahaha
Robin wrote: "Hunt the Moon by far is my favorite in this series(although the little cliff hanger at the end has me going crazy!) I thought the other books tended to go into a little TOO much description/histor..."i think what you said describes the situation perfectly!! and i totally agree with everything you wrote except if she had to choose between saving pritkin and mircea i have no idea what she would do.
I agree with you also Robin in what you said but she loves both men. Yes in different ways. So i am not sure who she would save either. Which I think is right where KC wants us. I do know she would tear herself up about the one she didn't save. That is just how Cassie is.
I agree with you 100% Robin, although i dont think it would come to a choice between the two men, rather Mircea will bugger his chances up with Cassie - after HtM its definately looking that way, he just cant seem to get over himself (in the nicest way possible). Pritkins definately our guy, for all the reasons you stated and many more. I think if Cassie had to save one or the other, shed feel too guilty about the guy she DIDNT save and not be able to have a relationship with the other one as a result! which would suck ;/
lmao I TOTALLY agree with everyone's exceptions of my last sentence in my post. My mind continued churning after I posted and realized that even IF Cassie had to choose, she'd still go back to save the other one, which of course she'd do it...or die trying. So I realized I was being a bit dramatic with that last comment, but I also try to stand by what I wrote and not edit it unless it's offensive to someone. :) I know it sounds bad, but if Pritkin is killed off somehow, I don't know if I could continue with the books. My heart is breaking as is with this cliff hanger, but at least he's still alive! I tend to get attached to characters and he's proven worthy of my loyalty and devotion..(and yes, even love. ;)) I'd be completely devastated. But that's how you know the author has done an amazing job, when your emotions are involved with a character on a page even after the book has been closed.
Also...I've been reading comments on how Pritkin might be saved from his father/prison. I have various thoughts on that. lol Here we go!
Rosier is an incubus, which are sexual demons. Karen Chance's females are sexually empowered. Cassie and ESPECIALLY Dori are very sexual characters. Even when they are being held against their will and something sexual is being done, you don't view them as victims of rape(this is mostly Dori) you see them as women with amazing sexual power that drives the most evil insane with lust...At least I do...and it has always in the end been the villain's achilles heel to help defeat them. So getting back to Cassie & Rosier. This could go in several ways, but in the end, I think it will somehow be centered around sexual energy.
1. Cassie offering her body up to Rosier in return for Pritkin. I get a vibe that Rosier is envious of Pritkin and Cassie's love/loyalty to eachother in some way. So he might try getting a piece of the pie so to speak, but not to kill like before.
2. Cassie and Pritkin have to make love in front of Rosier/everyone. Awkward, but I can definitely see this as something Rosier would force them to do for his own sick pleasure. Add in it would be Cassie and Pritkin's official first time together...that would make it heart wrenching and breath taking all in one.
3. Cassie and Pritkin have to marry. Rosier is also about power. Having a Pythia in the demon family would be a great power move!
4. As someone else mentioned, the rune. But I think this is too simple. Rosier needs a heartbreaking condition on top of it, so it may still include one of the 3 above or something else. I think Cassie getting the rune back isn't hard enough. I think there will be a serious emotion sacrifice and getting/delivering a rune wouldn't really provide that.
I believe deep down Rosier does love Pritkin and I think we'll see that side of him by books end, but in meantime we'll see the sadistic side we've seen in past. I don't think he'll be killed, least of all by Cassie. Even though Pritkin says he hates his father, I think there is still an underlying bond there and for her to kill him will put a strain on her and his relationship. So if anyone is to kill him, it will have to be Pritkin or Rosier pull a self sacrifice in the name of love for his son. But again, who knows! But it's sure fun trying to guess! lol
**Sorry for the "books", I know I type a lot, but it's hard for me to simplify my thoughts sometimes. :S **
Enjee wrote: "Would she go get Pritkin first to help her in Faerie, or go to Faerie first to release Hel.I think Cassie is going to Faerie first, since that is where "Hel" is imprisoned. Once released doesn't ..."
I think she'll go get Pritkin first. If at very least to find out what Rosier wants for him in exchange. K.C. has been slowly weaning us off of Mircea as the only man in contention for Cassie's heart and bringing Pritkin into the leading love role with each book. I think it would be a VERY bad move to limit Pritkin's involvement in any of the books. People are too emotionally invested in him at this point. So she'll have to at least have him coming to her in a psychic connection of some sort, in dreams,etc. (I dare to say something like what was done in the Twilight series. Eeep!) It would be even better if they were sexual dreams. lol It would help keep Pritkin in the running for her heart if he's still there in some way. I mention the sex dreams because if you look back on this book, Mircea was teamed up with Cassie the most...Pritkin wasn't in it that much. But when he was!!...Boy oh boy were those moments memorable! So readers didn't feel deprived whether they be Mircea fans or Pritkin fans. We all got our fix and we all had the chance to interpret as we liked.
ETA: I know some are hardcore Mircea fans, so when I say "weaning us off" him, it's the way their sexual scenes were written.
Take notice of the differences:
The scene where Cassie and Mircea have sex back in time. What was the moment that led up to it? Total and complete humiliation with her walking out of bathroom naked in front of servants. We carried that emotion even when we were "experiencing" the passionate moments.
The scene in the car with Pritkin. Our hearts were pounding and adrenaline pumping...then mind blowing orgasm.*sigh*
Those emotions/moments leading up to the sex scenes were intentional. They say more than any sex scene ever will. In this book we are supposed to be "comfortable" with Mircea...but "crazy" for Pritkin. :)
All of you make some great points. I really love being able to read all of your ideas and theories.Robin, I have to agree with you'll idea about #3. That was right along with my thoughts too. HtM gave us a lot of background into Pritkin this time and made it very clear that children, power/strength, and social power were what were most important to Rosier. I can see him thinking that a mating between Pritkin and Cassie would serve him well. I can also see him demanding that they agree to give him their first born for him to release Pritkin.
I also agree with your view of the emotional state of the sex scenes and how they differ between Mircea/Cassie and Pritkin/Cassie. I went into HtM wanting her to be with Mircea but by the end of it I can't make up my mind which I like better.
Robin, I'm w/ you 100%! If something happened to JP, I couldn't finish the series. I'm way too invested in his character (and a little in luv). So yes, I agree it would be a bad to move to kill him off OR limit him in the rest of the books. You're right, so many of the fans are dedicated to him, it would be seriously terrible to do that to him. I have to be honest, though. Sometimes Cassie seems really shallow and I wonder if she DESERVES him. I mean, the guy pulled a Dean Winchester for her, she owes him 100% of her time in saving him. He said himself he would rather die than go back to his father's court, and he did just that. The scene in the pizza place was great, but it sort of bugged me. She kept describing how he isn't traditionally attractive (he's too short, his features aren't proportional enough, blah blah) and I'm thinking : "Jesus Christ, Cassie. Does a guy have to look PERFECT to be with you?" She finally admitted his sexiness at the end, but she does seem to have a selective memory; she could totally forget about saying that the next time Mircea locks her in her room for luuuvv.
I do like the idea of them having at least a psychic connection while she tries to save him (and sexy dreams would be nice!!!) but you're right, she needs to avoid making it too much like Twilight. That would make me barf.
Robin wrote: "lmao I TOTALLY agree with everyone's exceptions of my last sentence in my post. My mind continued churning after I posted and realized that even IF Cassie had to choose, she'd still go back to sav..."im not sure if ai agree about choice 3 but the others sound like something karen would do.
like if rosier got a child or something out of choice 3 then yes but what does he get out of them just being married?? and would something bad happened if they cheated on each other??
It seems to me that Cassie should get some kind of perks or carry a little clout in the demon realms considering who her mom turned out to be. She doesn't just have the Pythia thing going for her now, she's a demigoddess and the daughter of Artemis/Hel. Niall told her that her mother had power over the pathways between worlds and the hells, so maybe our Cassie girl got lucky and inherited some of that power.I've also been wondering if Cassie got her connection to ghosts from her mother and not her father like we were told. The information given about her parents previous to Hunt the Moon has proven unreliable. She was told her parents had known each other for only a week when in fact they had been in communication for over a decade. There is no way to know how much information known about her parents was part of their own plan to hide their identities.
The letters found in her mother's suitcase state that she somehow merged her soul with Ragnar/Roger's, so even if he did have power over spirits it could come from this merging.
In Norse mythology, Hel is said to control the spirits of the dead, but only those who died of sickness, corruption, or old age. Those who die in battle are said to go to Valahalla or Sessrúmnir. If Cassie's connection to ghosts was inherited from her mother, this could explain (leaving room for artistic liberties) why Cassie only sees the ghosts of humans and not those of non-humans. It's possible that the spirits of non-humans fall under the jurisdiction of another deity.
@ jessicayou have any idea why there are no ghost in faerie??
Molly, you literally made me laugh out loud. lmao I like the bluntness of your statement about her criticizing his looks. hehe The "big nose" statement keeps coming up and it annoys me as well. You're comment really made me consider my thoughts on this and made me realize that she really DOES come off as shallow! It had irked me while reading, but I never stopped to analyze it till just now. So thank you! That being said, in all fairness to Cassie...I think she's trying to convince herself she shouldn't think he's attractive by pointing out all his flaws, yet the truth is too hard to fight...she finds him sexy.
Mircea is perfect in the looks department as all the descriptions have insinuated, so WHY when she has perfection would she want someone who isn't? That's the battle I think is going on in her mind. The admittance of finding him attractive despite the "big nose" etc, just verifies her attraction goes beyond just the incubus thing/emergency sex sessions. lol
I agree...reading her thoughts on paper make her seem so shallow, but yet I think it is a normal human reaction under her circumstances. I think it's another hint that her feelings for Pritkin go deeper than they do for Mircea. She's always talking about Mircea's good looks, beautiful hair, etc,..that is only surface beauty. With Pritkin she's admitting what he is on the outside isn't perfect...yet here she is, enjoying those kisses, enjoying those moments with him.
So although I do think she's appearing shallow I think her inner battle between the 2 men shows she's not shallow at all, or else there wouldn't be a choice to make. She'd go with perfection...Mircea.
Ashleigh, I really hope you're wrong about the Rosier getting a baby thing. I'd hate to see that happen!! But wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't something like that. I was thinking more along the lines of same reason the senate wants her with Mircea and why the circle is wanting her to date others. They think whoever holds her heart holds the power. So in my mind if she was married to Pritkin the power struggle would be settled(at least in Rosier's and everyone else's mind.) But we know Cassie better than they do. ;) Definitely something to think about with the cheating thing. I've been wondering along those same lines with Mircea since she's his "wife" to the vampires. I hear a "DUNT DUNT DUN" sound coming on! lmao
♥ Ashleigh ♥ wrote: "@ jessicayou have any idea why there are no ghost in faerie??"
I don't know. All I can remember about that is in TtD Radella said that some spirits manifest in Faerie in a physical form. Niall said that Earth is one of the upper hells, so maybe there are no spirits there because they can only exist in spirit form in a hell dimension. And if it's true that non-humans do leave spirits and Cassie just can't see them, the Fey would fall under that category.
Jessica~ I hadn't even thought about the demigoddess thing coming into play as a bargaining chip of sorts! Now I'm going to have something else to hash around in my head! lol Very interesting...BTW...just want to thank Enjee for inviting me here! I've been driving hubby nuts talking about this and he has no freaking clue, nor desire to know what I'm talking about! lol It's seriously driving me bonkers though! This is the first book I've ever read that has a "real" cliff hanger! Aaaaah!!!!
Robin wrote: "Molly, you literally made me laugh out loud. lmao I like the bluntness of your statement about her criticizing his looks. hehe The "big nose" statement keeps coming up and it annoys me as well. Yo..."The way she goes on about his looks doesn't bother me. It makes me think of men I've met before that upon first inspection weren't physically attractive to me, but after getting to know them, their personalities transform the way I perceive them.
In a way, it gives me hope for their relationship. She's not drooling over him because he's physically perfect, but becoming attracted to him because of who he is.
So, I agree with you that her critique of his looks may appear shallow on the surface, but really it's just showing us that their relationship is deeper than the physical.
Robin wrote: "Ashleigh, I really hope you're wrong about the Rosier getting a baby thing. I'd hate to see that happen!! But wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't something like that. I was thinking more along th..."lol i totally agree with you. if she gets married to pritkin she'll have 2 husbands - could get very complicated!!
if you think about it cassie really doesn't know anything about both men, mircea's prob worse cause he loves keeping his secrets - like i mean he has a child, what does he think.. cassie wont find out?? either the vamps will tell her or she'll randomly bump into dory. than mircea will be in BIG trouble, lol.
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To get my thoughts straight, I think I'll start with answering Enjee's questions.
1) What is your favorite scene, revelation, quote, tidbit?
I loved the scene with the PR mage, the sex scene with Mircea and when he told her about his parents. And Cassie's mother. I was like "WTF?!?!" but in a good way.
2) Did HtM change your mind about anyone?
Not really. Well, I really like Marco.
3) What did you really really want to know that was NOT disclosed in HtM?
I finally want Cassie to meet Dory.
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I love both Mircea and Pritkin, well Mircea more! *sighs* The interactions Cassie has with both of them are intriguing and hot and I love reading about them.
To me the thing between Mircea and Cassie is... not really creepy but... It irritates me that he was "uncle Mircea" and it was mentioned how she still was treated/seen as a kid. I sometimes have difficulties seeing them as a couple. I know they have sex and all but I don't think they are really in love. He is gorgeous, no doubt, but like Cassie says he makes her feel safe. I guess this is more it.
I think Pritkin could be the real thing, her real love. I like it that the attraction between them slowly develops and, like someone said, she loves (or starts to love) him for who he is. I also love that he doesn't lock her away to protect her but that he shows her how to protect herself.
So although I like Mircea more, I think Pritkin would be the better and right choice in the end.
BUT... And I know objects will be thrown at me for this... I want her to end up with none of both! I know for most Cassie having a HEA, being happy with one of the men has to be part of a happy ending. But I want a surprise and to me the biggest surprise would be Cassie without a HEA.
I still have to ponder about this some more but I'd like the two men to help her become a strong woman and to be able to deal with her new role as Pythia. But that in the end she can do this alone. At the moment I'd love if she and Mircea realize that they don't share the love necessary to maintain a relationship. And that she'll be together with Prikin but he dies in the end. Yeah, I know... Throw your rotten tomatoes at me! LOL I want some real drama in the end!
But like I said, I need to think about all this some more! And who knows, maybe the next books will change my mind.
Robin wrote: "Cassie and Pritkin have to marry. Rosier is also about power. Having a Pythia in the demon family would be a great power move! "I dunno about marriage, but definitely some sort of power bonding thing, because that was why he wanted Pritkin back in the first place. I don't think he'll give him up just a one-time sex show, no matter how humiliating or how much power he gets. He's immortal and he'll be thinking long term.
It'd be nice to think he loved Pritkin, but I'm not convinced. He doesn't want him to die because he can use him, but unfortunately I haven't seen anything to indicate an emotional attachment.
Robin wrote: "K.C. has been slowly weaning us off of Mircea as the only man in contention for Cassie's heart and bringing Pritkin into the leading love role with each book."
I agree, even the sex scene itself just didn't really do anything for me this time, whereas the Pritkin scene... DAAAAMN!
Sarah wrote: "A big thing for many seems to be who Cassie will end up with in the end. I have to admit that it's not one of my main concerns. I love both Mircea and Pritkin, well Mircea more! *sighs* The inter..."
OMG *throws rotten tomatoes at you!!*
haha just doing what you told us to do, but seriously you dont want a happy ending?? i love happy endings!
i think i would be devastated if one of the main characters died, i know it would be a shock and major surprise but i prefer when they stay alive!!
you should read
if you prefer something a little more dramatic.i cried reading that book, so its plenty dramatic!! lol
Just a though. Everybody says that Pritkin is not good looking according to Cassie. If I were a half incubi prohibited to feed myself....I would not make myself too desirable in the look department but more recognized for my fighting skills.
If you recall when Rosier appeared to Cassie in book 3...she though `Pritkin`quite desirable because he had acquired a sense of style. She even once said that when Pritkin does not style his hair....he looks better.
Maybe Cassie commenting how Pritkin in not being a classical beauty is her way of squashing her budding interest in him `cause she`s married to Mircea?
im pretty sure pritkin just has a big nose... but you deff have a point
One thing that's been rattling around in my head is the idea that Cassie might die at the end of the series, but get her second life like the other Pythias did. She'd probably like that, jump into the body of some random person and finally get that drama free life she's been wanting. I'd be ok with that as long as she finds Pritkin afterward. They can go live in his cottage and have dozens of little Pritkin babies without having to worry about the fate of the world so much.
I wish I could go live in his cottage and have dozens of little Prikin babies...
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haha just doing what you told us to do, but seriously you dont want a happy ending?? i love happy endings!
i think i would be devastated if one of the main characters died, i know it would be a shock and major surprise but i prefer when they stay alive!!
you should read if you prefer something a little more dramatic.
i cried reading that book, so its plenty dramatic!! lol
Well, I don't want the bad guys to win but... I want nothing too obvious, you know. And all main characters surviving and a HEA is not very surprising. But I guess that's just me. LOL
And thanks for the book recommendation. This sounds interesting! :-)
I love reading all your comments, gets me thinking big time! however it also makes me crave the next book even more.. and it hasnt even been started yet =(The thing about Pritkins descriptions by Cassie - I really love how she sees him. I love the way she describes his big nose, green eyes, small slash across his face for a mouth - and I definately love the way she describes him when hes utterly pissed! I find it extremely refreshing that hes not perfect, he has all these quirks she picks up on because she just takes THAT much notice. With Mircea its all perfect hair, perfect body, perfect face.. even perfect clothes! I mean boring much? she doesnt really find any deterrmining (i dont think this is the right word ;/) feature for Mircea, just that he's supposedly utterly perfect. Pritkin however has a lot of features which determine him, and i love that she keeps pointing it out - it shows me, and us that shes taking THAT much notice of him, and comparing it to situations where hes aroused, pissed, angry, scared.. I just love it! It makes me love Pritkin more and more =D
I just had to get that in there - I dont have time to read every comment cos I have no internet =( its excruciating typing this out on my phone - believe me! so im sorry for any silly errors lol
YAY team Pritkin :P
Sarah "And that she'll be together with Prikin but he dies in the end. Yeah, I know... Throw your rotten tomatoes at me! LOL I want some real drama in the end! "Someone hand me tomatoes! LMAO!!! Just kidding! lol But I would be seriously devastated if that happened! I know it's cliche' but I personally, REALLY NEED those happy endings. Life is depressing enough as is without my fantasy world being tainted with evil too. Know what I mean? When I first read the part about him giving her his power and her sitting up and he was gone, I thought he'd died so I immediately flipped back to the beginning of the fight to reread before going into a full blown panic! My heart is still aching but I also know he's alive so it's ok. But if he died...I don't know if I could forgive the author for that. lol Tear my heart out with near death experiences, but don't take them away completely! :(
"Gone With The Wind" is my favorite movie of all time...and even though Scarlett doesn't end up with him by the movie's ending, her last lines let you know she'll have him soon even if she has to drag him back to her house and tie him up. lol But we also know he loves her with his entire being as well, he's just waiting for her to need him as much. So you're left with that sadness of them not being together at end of movie, but more filled with hope and promise that they will still end up together in "life". THAT I can handle. Death is too permanent...that's just too real for me...and I disappear into my books so I don't have to face that reality. In 5th grade I read "Where the Red Fern Grows"...amazing book...but I'm 37 now and that pain still sits there like a rock. I get emotionally invested in my characters big time.
Jessica wrote: "One thing that's been rattling around in my head is the idea that Cassie might die at the end of the series, but get her second life like the other Pythias did. She'd probably like that, jump into..."I thought about that too...but Cassie seemed somewhat repulsed by the idea of Agnes taking Myra's body over(this is before she knew she was doing it to kill her off) so if she didn't like the idea of a good person using her enemy's body...I don't think she'd be able to take over someone else's. But she's grown a lot since then, so possibly. But as you said, if she does...we want her happy ever after in Pritkin's cottage. lmao
That concerns me that Cassie might die at the end of the series and live her "second life" as a Pythia in a new body (like Jessica mentions above). I know that it is supposedly "romantic" that two souls can find each other no matter what body they inhabit, but the truth is, so much of romantic love and good sex is the result of the specific blend of chemistry between two bodies! Anyway, as far as Pritkin's damnation goes, I got really excited about Cassie's divine heritage. Much of Rosier's motivation for maintaining a tight leash on Pritkin (and confining him to hell) seems to be fueled by Rosier's desire for Pritkin to breed with a powerful female and sire a grandchild that will boost Rosier's standing among other demons. I mean, shouldn't Cassie's newly discovered status as a Goddess/demigod + Pythia be enough for Rosier to decide she's a suitable 'broodmare' to Pritkin's 'stud'? So perhaps Rosier will release Pritkin under the agreement that he'll mate with Cassie! Oh, what sweet tension....
My questions--
1) What sort of being is Cassie's father, Ragnar (and why is his name so similar to Ragnarok?)? Jonas says, "[Artemis] is protected by a fierce guard dog named Garm" and Niall says "Garm was Hel's faithful companion in all the old sagas" and "'Garm' in Old Norse is 'Rag'" and "'Ragnar' means 'warrior of the gods' in Old Norse". So... her father does not appear to be human. What is he? If he is a full god like Artemis, does this mean that Cassie is a full goddess (like the newspaper reports at the end) rather than a demigod?
2) Furthermore, since she is a demigod or goddess, does this mean her lifespan is prolonged like Pritkin's & Mircea's? Pretty please?
3) Is Artemis's soul in Tony's paperweight along with Ragnar's, since Artemis somehow bound their souls together?
Amy-la wrote: "3) Is Artemis's soul in Tony's paperweight along with Ragnar's, since Artemis somehow bound their souls together? "Since her father's soul was trapped, I figured when she finds the paperweight and lets him out we will have some interesting interactions with her and her long-lost fathers ghost. Artemis did bind their souls, but I think that just means they are connected and therefor a 'part' of her is still with him. But I don't think that means we will get to see her ghost or anything like we will with her Dad.
HahHaah pritkin has a big nose yes, but taylor lautner has a bit nose and he's still quite fit... Sorry mate but I don't think there is anything in the world that could put me off pritkin now... Loved him from the very start... He's such a character and treats Cassie equally (that's why they fight/argue a lot) ahaha they crank me up... Seriously if Cassie goes w/Mircea, That's fine with me, I'm not gonna cry, I'll just make up my own happy ending where pritkin ends up with me :D hahaha and omfg yes! Am I the only one who actually noticed as well the resemblance (in attitude) between her dad and pritkin? And you know what they say, girls go for men like their fathers! Hell yeah! And speaking of her father, am I right in thinking that he's some sort of war god? The whole ragnarok before he changed his name to Roger? Does that mean Cassie's a Goddess as well? Cuz I'm pretty sure God+Goddess= Goddess daughter... Unless I read it wrong or something... Guiltly I did skim through some of the bits (shamefully most of the stuff with Mircea) I love the guy in Dorina's books, but the fighting by Cassie's side doesn't feel the same w/him. I love Prit too much. Also yeah, when she was battling the dragon (ending bit) am I right in thinking the Senate people saw the whole thing but was unable to help cuz they (the house) was under a spell or etc? Apology for my stupidness & ignorance- I'm not normally like this, I swear especially about this series- but somehow I actually found myself skimming some bits... I'm not sure why. I love the fact we learned a lo about the history but there were some bits that the explanation went on and on and I just got... Errm distracted? Ahah and although I liked the soft Pritkin I admit I was surprised a bit. It was out of character but hey, I'm not complaining, he's an awesome crazy ass dude. I also believe that it was dory on the album stuff... Can't wait when she meets Cassie it'd be freaking hilarious! I can only imagine... Ahahah god I need to get a life, I am obsessing with the series too much, it's bad for my health. On the other hand of I die I'll be be jamming with Pritkin in hell, so it's all good ;) hahaha... Now I shall go before I all bore you guys death (and I can't have you guys beating me to pritkin!) LOL... AhahahKrazy_KD
LMAO!! You aren't any more obsessed then the rest of us I'm sure! lol Honestly when I'm reading I don't see Pritkin as anything but a hot stud. lol Only time I pause is when Cassie makes comments, but I skim past those little remarks and continue drooling over him. :D As for the skimming...I did when it came to the extensive history lessons. The books before this one I was really bad about it, because the author seemed to go into more detail in those more than this one, but I still found things going way into depth at points in this one too. I don't have the attention for things I consider non essential. When I reread it I'll pay attention then since it will be "new". lol
You're close about the senate not helping because of a spell. For the coronation as protection they placed a "lock down" so nobody could get in or out.
Robin and Jessica: Good points. I guess I was failing to read beneath the surface of her blathering. :-)
JP's a stud; no ifs ands or buts. Mircea's okay, too, but I've never really been attracted to guys w/ longer hair than me ;)Oh, and he needs to stay away from my feet, too. Weirdo. :P
Molly wrote: "Robin and Jessica: Good points. I guess I was failing to read beneath the surface of her blathering. :-)"I thought the same thing until you posted, then I analyzed it a bit more and had that "ah ha!" moment. lol
Oh and another thing! I think pritkin's powers will grow, cuz not only is he the awesome Merlin (I freaking love Merlin) ms.Chance also brought up the whole power transfer prospect quite a lot and how pritkin has more potential because of his fey and demon blood but that it hasn't been 'tested' to it's maximum potential. Obviously because he didn't want too... And yes mate...! I love how pritkin isn't perfect. One thing you always notice in books is how the main always described their man as perfect or pretty or whatever the hell type of cheese they can come up with (eheh I'm not a cliche fan :P) I've always believed peoples imperfections are what makes they perfect, one reason why I've always loved pritkin. And the whole bickering and the I-want-to-strangle-her are also one of my reasons of loving them as a couple. They challenge each other (equality) but no matter how much the other wants to smack the hell out of the other they always stick together and I really really feel that emotion. I don't know, but it makes it more real for me somehow, not just the corporeal fiction character... The whole I love him I'll sacrifice everything we are so perect drama that's so classic in books. I want the real deal, and they so have that. I am so sappy, I'm in tears and I don't even know why. *sigh* I get too emotionally attached to fictional characters. I wish pritkin was here to hug and comfort me xD ahahah. And as for the discussion above, I wouldn't mind the dying aspect as long as she doesn't end up with mircea! Not anything against him, but I hate it when authors kill of a love interest so the main can stay w/the other... If Prit dies mircea's not getting her either! Sue me, but I love drama as well and I'm not exactly opposed to heartache/death type of endings (it makes it more emotional) but If there is no dying however, and by some unfathomable reason Cassie ends up with Mircea (ecckk) I want Prit alive and well, example of a good exactution of this type of love triangle is The Shifter series. But thats not gonna happen I'm sure Cassie will finally realise her feelings for pritkin. And oh! Guys sorry for the grammar/spelling mistakes and if I missed a word or two. I'm writing/typing this on my phone (which is a very hard thing to do at midnight!) and yeah, I know, this is very sad of me. But sue me, I'm a fan. Ahahha.... Okay imma go now before I start blabbing again xDKrazy_KD
Someone mentioned the chance that Cassie and Pritkin would be mated. Are they technically mated already? He said that demons mate by exchanging power, which they both did (and which resulted in him getting sucked back to Hell.) I think even the way Mircea and Pritkin claimed/mated with Cassie says a lot about them. They both did it to save her, but in Mircea's case the claiming caused some political problems for her while it helped him 100%. In Pritkin's case, it seemed to help her a lot more than it helped him (at this point.) Does this make our Cassie a bit of a polygamist?!
Molly wrote: "Oh, and he needs to stay away from my feet, too. Weirdo. :P"
OMG! I know right! I seriously freak if I have my toes licked...like running around desperately trying to get the slobbers off as soon as possible freaked! So when I read that I literally cringed inside.
Haha Rachel, I thought that too. However, w/ Mircea and Cassie were "married", he did it against her will. And yes, JP and Cassie probably had the demon equivalent of sex, but I don't think they're mated the way Mircea/Cassie are. Besides, JP would never do anything like that to her w/out her consent. And yeah, their power exchange was totally for her benefit! He knew what would happen if they did it, and he did it anyway to save her life.
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The idea of not seeing Pritkin in the next book saddens me so, and so I shall disagree or risk going mad....but I do like the "go raise Hell" line. :)