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Ha, I remember (vaguely) that conversation!! I remember I read the book before I read the Dory books and I was wondering who she was!! I knew Mircea would never cheat on Cassie (seriously...she'd kick his butt into the previous century, and I think there is no contest to who'd win THAT fight...) and then when I read the Dory books I finally understood!!
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@Lannister - I rememebr thinking there was a pattern to when Mircea could link to Cassie's mind - was it linked to the geis? He never seems to know when she is planning a runner!
Anna, I think it explains more about it in Hunt the Moon. I need to have a poke through the book and see what it says to refresh my memory. It true enough that if he knew she was going to disappear that he'd have Marco sit on her!
Lannister wrote: "It true enough that if he knew she was going to disappear that he'd have Marco sit on her! "then she's just dragged a reluctant and cursing marco along with her, lol.
lol once again...if he CAN read her mind...then maybe he chooses to ignore it at times so she can run off?? And then he can PRETEND to be furious with her (when really he's just being protective) (And YES I still like her and Mircea together...but I like her and Pritkin too...I hated her and Tomas, that was just weird...but I approve entirely of Pritkin or Mircea...actually...I approve whole heartedly of Pritkin AND Mircea!!) when really he knew she was going to do it and just couldn't approve of her doing it!!
Aileen wrote: "lol once again...if he CAN read her mind...then maybe he chooses to ignore it at times so she can run off?? And then he can PRETEND to be furious with her (when really he's just being protective) (..."I approve of Pritkin and Mircea too. . .!!! I'm all for sexy threesomes ROFL.
But umm. . . I don't think either of them knows how to share . ..
ROFL!!! I can just imagine the death stares!!!Cassie would have to make a schedule so that they never had to 'meet'!! LOL - ah, the fights and arguments that would ensue!!! ROFL!!
Yup - I agree with Zeenat - I just don't think they'd share well!! especially not with each other!! :D
I think half the time Cassie doesn't plan in advance. She just sort of reacts to everything, so Mircea would hardly have the chance to send in the troops to stop her before she takes off, but yeah, Ashleigh is right. If Mircea tried to stop her, she'll just take along whoever is with her! (I mean, handcuffing her to a couch hardly stopped her - and that was so out of order!!)I approve of Pritkin and Mircea too, cos I'm all for the manlove LMAO!
Lol Lannister when I first read manlove I saw Marlowe...don't know whyyyy but I did, so I thought you were all "cassie can HAVE them...as long as I get Marlowe..."
LMAO Aileen! I do like the way you think!! :D
Okay, I've finally decided to check this board again and haven't read any of this for ages, so this might be a bit long. Here we go.Aileen wrote: "lol once again...if he CAN read her mind...then maybe he chooses to ignore it at times so she can run off?? And then he can PRETEND to be furious with her (when really he's just being protective) (..."
Hmm, I reckon he can read her mind, but only sometimes. I really can't see Mircea letting Cassie run off and in to trouble. He spends too much effort desperately trying to keep her alive, and I don't think he has enough faith in her ability to keep herself alive when she gets into trouble. He wouldn't let her risk her life like that. I reckon his plan is more along the lines of keeping Cassie locked up in a glass display case on a high shelf where she can't get hurt.
I think if Mircea had know she was going to run, it wouldn't have taken much to stop her - just a quick phone call to Marco to give him a heads up and block the balcony window.
♥ Ashleigh ♥ wrote: then she's just dragged a reluctant and cursing marco along with her, lol."
Haha, so very true. I want to see that. She really needs to drag Marco along on a trip with her soon. Marco's brilliant.
Although I do very much approve of Pritkin and Mircea too. But Jax is right, they wouldn't know how to share. Which would probably make it all the more hilarious :)
But I thought the same as Aileen about what Mircea meant when he was talking about a mistress. I more got the impression he was talking about his many past mistresses, before Cassie.
And Dblaze, I don't know if this is just me, but I didn't think Rosier wanted Pritkin so he could make demon babies - I thought he wanted him so he could pimp him out to other powerful demons so that they could get a power boost from Pritkin, in return for giving favours, whilst also making Pritkin more powerful. Was that just me?
And about Cassie's mother in hell - I'd kind of assumed that she left hell when she cast the spell and kicked the other gods out. After that, the demon realms would probably be wanting to rule themselves again, and I don't think she was powerful enough to rule all of the hundreds of realms of hell on her own. So she probably wouldn't go back afterwards?
I agree with Lannister too, I can't see Cassie setting up her courts in hell. Her vampire and mage allies wouldn't be allowed in, and I'm pretty sure the demon lords would hate her guts.
Okay, all done. Sorry that was so long.
Enjee wrote: "I shudder to think how Cassie is going to retrieve Pritkin...probably try to bargain, which she isn't very good at. What does she have to bargain with? I immediately thought Cassie would offer to h..."I don't think Cassie would offer to have sex with Rosier, because I don't think she could share energy the same way a demon would and I don't see Cassie signing up to spawn little demon babies. But I do think Cassie is going to try and help him, and that he's going to need the help. Rosier isn't going to want to let Pritkin go. I see Cassie as trying to take advantage of her mother's legacy to bust Pritkin out, without necessarily waiting for political maneuvering. Hopefully, we'll get to see more of the demon realms in the next book.
I think if Cassie were to have demon sex, it'd be with Pritkin. I don't think that would be too much of a struggle for her LOL!My personal belief is that Cassie will have to negotiate with Rosier, rather than fight him. But I'm prepared to be utterly wrong! I just don't see Cassie being able to bring in enough people to beat Rosier in a fight on his home turf, where he's at his most powerful (cos I believe it takes a lot of power for Rosier to come to Cassie's world, but he'll be at his strongest in the demon realm).
I suppose it's a possibility that Rosier won't consider that anyone would actually want to rescue Pritkin, so he may not be guarded very heavily. But there may be spells around Pritkin that prevent him leaving, cos I guess it was a spell that brought him back after he broke his word about having sex? (Cos how would Rosier have immediately known?) So it might not be as simple as drop in, grab Pritkin and get out again.
Basically, I have no clue what's going to happen, just lots of opinions which probably all contradict each other!! :D
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As to breaking Pritkin out of sex-prison... the cliché would be for Cassie to offer herself to save Pritkin, but I have too much respect for KC to think that is seriously going to happen. I agree with Claire that Cassie is bound to use her legacy on some level to get Pritkin back to Vegas.
I think there is going to be some deal made that is going to seem innocuous at first, and then it will be something big. Like he will let Pritkin go if Cassie agrees to let demons walk on earth, or something like that I don't know.It totally makes sense to me that Rosier might want Cassie and Pritkin to have sex and have babies. demigod and demon baby? lol but I don't think it will be that.
I really, really hope the book doesn't end with some sort of prisoner swap. That would be the cliché, and also incredibly frustrating. However, KC has yet to present us with something so lackluster, and I have faith she'll continue to deliver.I definitely agree that Cassie is going to make a seemingly-innocuous deal that comes back to bite her in the ass. No demon king is going to let his wayward progeny out of his grasp lightly.
Cassie and Pritkin make an alluring pair, but I think part of that is the tension between them. Mircea isn't always my favorite person, but he cares for Cassie and Cassie cares for him. I can't see her leaving him any time soon.
I think you guys might be on to something with Rosier trying to make some dodgy deal with Cassie, which she agrees to without thinking things through. (Cassie acting impulsively? Oh, surely not!)It would be a hoot to watch her squirm and try to wangle her way out of the deal. I think Rosier could actually be quite fun and very devious - which will make great reading.
I'm not sure what Rosier would want. It would have to be something that makes him stronger in some way, whether he gets something that benefits him personally, or benefits his position as Chief Cook and Bottlewasher in the demon realm. It could be something related to Cassie's time-travelling ability. Maybe he wants something changed in the past, which Cassie knows she isn't supposed to do, but she does it anyway. Then has to deal with the consequences.
Do you all think that KC is definitely making Rosier more sympathetic and likeable as the books go on? Early on, he was trying to kill and torture Cassie. But later he's helping her save Pritkin in Hunt the Moon, and then they were working together in the Pritkin short A Family Affair. It seems like KC doesn't want him to be the villain that he appeared to be at first.
I think so. Rosier went from evil abusive yucky parent to the "parent that makes their kids visit during christmas and easter" lol
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I don't know if Rosier will ever stop being the villain. I think it's less that he's evil and more that he's entirely self-serving. Rosier doesn't care if something's good or bad, so long as it proves useful. So, if Cassie can figure out something that's more helpful to Rosier than an enslaved Pritkin, she's golden.
Claire, that's a fair point. Rosier's not automatically a villain if his goals coincide with your goals. Then he could be a friend.I wonder what he will want that Cassie would be able to give him?
Leodora, I have a bizarre image of Rosier and Pritkin standing around a Christmas tree awkwardly handing each other presents and trying to make small talk. Don't ask!
Lanniser, I now have that picture in my head too!! Except it also includes Cassie and a slew of blonde haired, quarter god, quarter demon, half human kids! lol
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OH! maybe what Rosier wants from Cassie is her and PRitkins firstborn!
Oh, good point Leodora!! Rosier's probably realised that he's never going to persuade Pritkin over to the dark side, so he might want to try subverting a grandchild.Grampa Rosier just sounds so ... wrong!! :D
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And hey, what parent isn't dying to have granchildren?! Or dear lord.. I just realized something.. if Cas and Pritkin really do make a baby, that baby is gonna be part demon/fae/human/god... and if it's a girl very likely to be Pythian Heir too...
Lannister: Maybe Rosier would want some sort of alliance? The whole supernatural world is at war, after all. Rosier might trade Pritkin for some sort of special privileges on earth- like maybe keeping the Silver Circle off their backs or something.In general: As much as I love the idea of Cassie and Pritkin together, I don't know if I want it to happen. Part of what makes them so great to read about is the undercurrent of tension in all their interactions. Also, Cassie's officially Mircea's wife and I don't think vampires do divorce. And, I love Mircea too.
Hey everyone. So I've been a member of this group since I joined Goodreads, but I'd lost track of the series. I just re-read the first 3, and finished the last two. and can I say OH EM GEEZORS!! I'm sorry is everything I have to vent out has already been said.
Since I never before now finished Embrace the Night, I was a die hard team Mircea member. Who, secretly, wanted to jump Pritkin's bones. but after finishing EtN, CtD, and HtM...I kinda hate Mircea.
Don't flog me! HE isn't evil but he still, in my opinion, does not respect Cassie as a person or as an equal. Which if you are going to have a FUNCTIONAL relationship (or as functional as possible in terms of them) is kinda important. He is still out of this world gorgeous, and extremely protective of her, and I don't doubt that he ultimately would die protecting her. But only as a last resort....you don't live as long as he does and just throw it away if there is even the slightest out of this universe chance of something else. Just saying.
Just John? As hard and mean as he can be? He is probably the most selfless character in Cassie's life. He, in his own way, adores that girl. He want to help her, but in a way where she is able to better herself as a person and in ability. He recognizes that she is a person, who is flawed, and accepts that. Though he doesn't let her get away with half a**ing anything when he knows she is capable of more, and has done more.
And then he can be surprisingly sensitive and kind her her wants, needs, and desires. I don't know. I feel Pritkin is the kind of man she NEEDS in her life. Yeah he has his own baggage, but she takes it all in stride like a champ and still believes in him. They are good for each other on so many levels. And if it is possible for them to be together inspite of what/who he is, and what/who she is, they will end up together.
The reason I love Pritkin and Cassie so much is because I feel that they have worked the HARDEST with their relationship, whatever it is. Its the realest. Sure she has known Mircea the longest, but it just all happened to easily for them, no thanks to the spell gone bad. I know they didn't choose for it to happen that way but I mean, details aside, they sort of just fell into each others arms and stayed that way.
The same certainly can not be said about her and Pritkin.
PHEWEEW That was long.
Cheers.
You are not the only one Amanda! I like Mircea. I would not turn him away from my bed . . . but a real relationship wouldn't last long with him. And I have similar issues with authority that Cassie does!
That is a pretty amazing post, Amanda. Makes me want to get to re-reading the series sooner. If I didn't have so many books on my tbr pile, I would start soon.I have the same issue with Cassie and Mircea's relationship. I don't doubt that he does love her, but he's pretty set in his ways when it comes to relationships. I know he wants Cassie safe and I even believe it has more to do with just the fact that she's the Pythia, but I guess it's because I feel like they don't have the necessary connection that I would like to see them have if they are going to continue to stay together.
Despite all of the times they have had alone together, it feels like they're apart more than they are together. Mircea is really busy with the Senate being in so much chaos and a war going on. Plus, it doesn't help that Cassie runs off so often. I have enjoyed the times the two of them go off on a date or when they've actually had an opportunity to fight together against a Big Bad. I just hope they are going to have more of a real connection if they are going to stay together. I'm not really sure how they can get closer with so much crazy going on.
Mello luvs Gin, Illium, Myrnin & Jaqen H'ghar wrote: "That is a pretty amazing post, Amanda. Makes me want to get to re-reading the series sooner. If I didn't have so many books on my tbr pile, I would start soon.I have the same issue with Cassie an..."
Aw thank you! :) And you brought something else up I'd like to add about Mircea and Cassie. (So your post is great too, because it put into words where I was at a loss)
In a way Mircea and Cassie were meant to be together. But only for a short time I feel. Like most great romances films where the guy and the girl new each other nearly all their lives, (nearly all of Cassie in this case) and eventually become more. You know that fiery passionate fireworks kind of romance. And then they grow apart because they are together at a time where they are still discovering who they are, and their passions, and desires, and just who they are is what ultimately causes them to separate. (usually the guy or gal goes off to college or a job abroad, or something like that)
Mircea and Cassie are like that. For a short time, and with the help or a miscreant spell, they were meant to be together. But Cassie, finally empowered enough to come out of the shadow of Tony, is discovering herself, and finds she really can stand on her own two feet...until she loses her shoes and ruins her clothes that is. And I think she is finding, or will, that maybe they are not meant to be together.
And the argument that she is his wife? That is a technicality. She said it herself that the mark on someone else is basically for anyone within the family that is human. That can't be controlled through the Master/Submissive bond that vampires have.
I mean really. If Mircea ended the relationship and seriously started send someone else and started a life with someone else. And Cassie just happened to feel like she was his wife, could she really do anything about it? No. Her say would have no baring on the situation what so ever. But since the roles are reversed, Mircea's say does matter because he is a vampire, and a senate member to boot. "Wife" by vampire standards in my opinion is just another form of control and ownership. He is basically her pimp.....except he doesn't pimp her out...and..well..you know what I mean. He has a say over who she gets to be with, but the same isn't true for her.
I definitely agree with everyone that Pritkin is an awesome, selfless person and that Mircea can be a bit difficult. But, what I find the most telling about Mircea's relationship with Cassie, what would make it last, is that he's been willing to change. Mircea will always be a political creature, but he has demonstrated the ability to trust Cassie, to listen to her. When they were trapped in the London underground he could have grabbed her and ran. He could have stayed in her way and refused to let her handle things. But instead, Mircea listened. He moved, and let her take the lead even if it meant both of them would die. While Pritkin definitely cares about Cassie, he's stubborn to a fault. He has the same problem Mircea does: wanting to protect Cassie so badly he's willing to steamroll over her wishes to get it done. I'm not criticizing him; I adore Pritkin! My point is that both men have the same problem, the only difference being that Mircea is sneakier about it. No matter what happens, Pritkin will always be half an incubus and pose a threat to Cassie if they're ever intimate. Even if they deal with Rosier, that issue remains.
@ claire,thats a great point!
@ Ashleigh Thank you very much!
♥ Ashleigh ♥ wrote: "@ claire,thats a great point!"
Agreed. That's what makes it so hard. Both men have their pros and cons. I actually love them both, but lean more toward Pritkin. I don't see how Cassie and Mircea's relationship could come to an end. I think I'd be shocked if it actually did.
Claire wrote: "No matter what happens, Pritkin will always be half an incubus and pose a threat to Cassie if they're ever intimate. Even if they deal with Rosier, that issue remains."I wonder if Cassie is something more with the power exchange...does she get immunity or resistance now or something. Would it not be fun to gain magical ability without the control.
Well he was able to give her energy just like he can take from her. The problem with the energy exchange with his wife was that she was not powerful enough, but Cassie is half demi god, half mage. I mean, she's pretty damn powerful.
I get the feeling that what you said is right, Zeenat. I think it's more a matter of Cassie having power to burn as Pythia instead of some wonky resistance to Pritkin's incubus.Speaking of Cassie's mom...I was surprised to learn she was a demi-god, since Cassie hardly has the abilities of other demi-gods we've encountered in the series. Do you guys think that now Cassie's aware of her other side, more powers will come online? Or will it just manifest itself as better control of the Pythian power itself?
I think it said in Hunt the Moon that Artemis's power was almost gone because she'd been in the human realm for so long. In fact, the reason she joined the Pythian court was because that was the last source of power available to her. Maybe Cassie can't be super powerful because her mother's power was almost spent by the time she was conceived?I honestly don't know if Cassie will pick up any new abilities from her power exchange with Pritkin, though it would be excellent if she did. I have a feeling KC talked about this in one of her Q & As but I can't remember what was said.
I think I remember KC saying that it would be possible for Cassie to gain something from the power exchange with Pritkin, and also that as a general rule, demigods who were half human didn't really tend to inherit much in Greek mythology, so that might also contribute to why Cassie didn't get much from her mother. I have a feeling the Morrigan and the spartoi got more power than Cassie because they were half fey instead of half human. But half-human demigods do sometimes get one power or so from their god parents, so I'm still hopeful that Cassie will get something there too. It could just be better control of the Pythian power, and that alone is awesome, but I'm still holding out for something more. I'd love for Cassie to develop a few extra powers - nothing world-shattering, but enough to make her a bit stronger, more impressive and more independent.But one pint I'm really interested in is what the fey will think when they find out that Cassie is half god. They're obsessed with improving their lines through selective breeding, and Cassie not only has the blood of a god, but is a grand-daughter of Zeus/Odin. That would be pretty appealing to them, and I think she's going to end up in even more trouble because of it, especially if she ends up going to Faerie.
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Leodora wrote: "Knowing the Fey, I think they'll try to trick Cassie in to some kind of deal where they get a baby out of it."Hey. Who isn't trying to trick Cassie? I'm pretty sure everyone tried already in some point now.
I think it would be best for Cassie to just stay away from Faerie. No way is that deal she made with the dark fey king not going to come back to bite her on the ass.
Claire wrote: "I think it would be best for Cassie to just stay away from Faerie. No way is that deal she made with the dark fey king not going to come back to bite her on the ass."The bad guys are all in Faerie and we all know Cassie is not the kind of woman to stay put and get protection. I just hope she doesn't decide to go there without Pritkin!
had a weird thought: Is it possible for Cassie to travel to the future? Granted, the idea seems a little weird but technically travel to the future is possible and travel to the past isn't
I don't think it's ever been stated, but I don't think Cassie can travel into the future. And yes, Cassie staying out of Faerie would be the smart and safe plan, but then, when has Cassie ever followed the smart and safe plan?
So true. Then again Cassie brought up her problem w/ the king in HtM and didn't seem to want to go back any time soon, so she might actually do the smart thing for once.
I don't think she really wants to go back, but when other people start planning to go back and try to tell her to stay behind whilst they risk themselves, then she'll kick up a fuss.
This is true. Then again...she did let Pritkin go in by himself. And if there's anyone Cassie's going to make a fuss about losing, it's Pritkin.Somehow I don't think we'll hear much about Faerie in the next Cassie book. I think it's mostly going to be focused on getting Pritkin back where he belongs.
Claire wrote: "This is true. Then again...she did let Pritkin go in by himself. And if there's anyone Cassie's going to make a fuss about losing, it's Pritkin.Somehow I don't think we'll hear much about Faerie ..."
Yeah but look what happened to Pritkin there! She'll kick a fuss alright...but I agree with you. I think it'll be mostly about getting our favorite mage back!
Cassie is going into to faerie at some point, she needs to find tony, kill him or something punishing, and rescue her parents. It may not happen now . . . but who knows? "Raising Hel" has lots of implications . . .
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