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Hunt the Moon (Cassandra Palmer #5)
I like the idea of Cassie being able to identify demons. I think that could really work within the plot.Maybe Cassie will develop the ability to give/take energy. Pritkin always initiated it before, both when he took energy from Cassie, and when he gave it to her. Maybe she'll be able to do this herself, which could be handy if one of her human friends gets hurt.
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Claimed By Shadow, when Billy was suddenly corporeal after Mac's ..."
True, but I don't remember them really talking at all, or him having much of a reaction to Billy Joe, so I want a redux. But I think Billy meeting Mircea/Marco would be fantastic. He'd better follow Cassie to Faerie again!
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I would love to read a fanfic about the conversation Billy Joe and Pritkin had while walking to the tavern in Faeri.
PLEASE??? (@ Maeve and McCora and whoever the other fanfic writers are in the group...I only know some of you...)
Amy wrote: "@Lannister, screw healing her friends. Get your mind in the gutter! Imagine all the possibilities of her..."LMAO!! It's not like me to have my mind out of the gutter! :D
Oh yeah, the possibilities are endless. You could really mess with Mircea's head by having the whole 'sex me up demon-style' thing going on right under his nose. I hope Cassie's not a screamer. Or Pritkin! :o
personally i dont like the idea of cassie picking up seducing powers - it reminds me to much of anita *shudder*. being able to identify demons though would be awesome.
Amy wrote: "@Lannister, after 64677532478743 years of forced celibacy, anyone would be a screamer ;x That said, Pritkin's more of a grunter. Well, in my head at least lol."
LMAO!! Yeah, I think you're right. Pritkin would be a grunter. I wonder if his enforced celibacy allows, um, sex with yourself, if you catch my drift!! ;)
Ashleigh, oh god, please no!! The thought of Cassie turning into Anita fills me with horror.
Lannister wrote: "Ashleigh, oh god, please no!! The thought of Cassie turning into Anita fills me with horror."LOL thats why i was shuddering, even the mighty mircea would be running in the opposite direction! :P
apparently book 20 anita is like her old self, have you read it??
P.Sloved the idea of pritkin being able to see and talk to Billy-joe. that would be hilarious! :D
I stopped reading the Anita books fairly early on in the series actually. I think I only read up to about Book 7. It was the first one she has sex in. That was the last one I read. It wasn't the sex that put me off (hardly!!) but I didn't think Anita was becoming a very nice person and I was fed up with her. I did think about going back to read more, but there was always something better to read, and I never got round to it. And with all the stuff I've read about where the series went, I don't really feel like I've missed out on anything. I heard the newest book was more like her old self, but since I'd missed about 10 books worth of plot, I don't know that it would be worth me reading it.
lucky you i got up to book... 12 i think, and just couldnt handle reading any more. though i did read book.. 17?? because it had edward in it.
LOL, I don't know if I'm just perverse, but having read so many horror stories, sometimes I kinda want to pick up one of the 'bad' books just to see how awful it is! I did like Edward too. He should have just killed Anita, and we could all have enjoyed the Edward series. :D
@ Ash and Lannister, Gurls at least you got that far. I have picked up Guilty Pleasures twice and it seems such a boring read. This time i put it down for the BDB Series.. I am loving that one. Maybe i will give it one more chance later.
Gypsi, yeah some books just aren't for you. Putting them down and picking up something else is the best thing. I've stuck with a few books, determined to finish, even when I'm not really enjoying them. I think I secretly worry that the last few chapters will be mind-blowingly awesome and I missed them, but of course they never are and you're left feeling annoyed with the book and with yourself! I think I might be a bit of a masochist LOL!
Lannister wrote: "Gypsi, yeah some books just aren't for you. Putting them down and picking up something else is the best thing. I've stuck with a few books, determined to finish, even when I'm not really enjoying t..."Gurl we are in the same boat ...I feel S & M is definity my thang.
@ Amy, i have no problems with people "scratching an itch" with random ppl, we all have "needs" ;P lol. the problem i have with anita is that she uses anything male that walks by her, why cant she just stick to one dude?? or just a couple?? she always has plenty around her so why grab the one she hasnt been with?? save the poor man from experiencing her vag of doom. lol.
also if she is having such a hard time at controlling her sexual needs why doesnt she ever loose it with another female?? to me it just seems like anita claims she's trying to control them when she actually using them to have sex with as many random hotties as she can, which isnt always a bad thing unless you go through as many as she does and apparently ruins them for all us other females. lol.
i didnt think pritkin could have release at all either, but i havent read the books for a while.
"Vag of doom" - LMFAO!! Love it Ashleigh :DAmy/Ashleigh, I think you're right about Pritkin and having no release. Oh man, poor guy! I remember Pritkin talking to distract Cassie from her 'excitement' in the car, so I think that's the scene you're thinking of Amy. You didn't make it up LOL!
@ Amy & Lannister,Vag of doom is floating around GRs when people talk about anita and i decided it was a good description and snatch'd it up too, lol.
i agree that it wouldnt seem so bad if she wasnt so ashamed of it and clung to the men... when you do one night stands you dont keep in-contact afterwards! lol.
ugh! it too hard to keep up with all of anita promiscuous activities! lol.
Amy wrote: "but Ms. Chance did mention that Dory and Cassie will meet in Fury's Kiss... Idk? "ooooo did she?? i thought they wouldnt meet until the next cassie book, being as it will affect cassie more?? but i like the idea of both books taking place during the same time.
Amy, I don't think KC said explicitly that Dory and Cassie would meet in Fury's Kiss. I think she said we would read something that amused us related to this (or words to that effect). I took that to mean that Dory and Mircea would have a conversation about Cassie, but that's just my guess.According to the timeline on KC's website, Fury's Kiss is set after Hunt the Moon, but there's no mention whether the next Cassie book will be after this, or concurrent.
Ashleigh, I don't think I'll ever hear about Anita Blake without thinking about the phrase 'vag of doom' now. I don't know whether to laugh or be slightly sickened LOL!
I really can't wait to find out what KC meant by us reading something amusing about Cassie/Dory. As I've said before, I doubt they'll meet in Fury's Kiss as it's more relevant from Cassie's p.o.v. not Dory's, but Mircea and Dory having a conversation about Cassie sounds about right to me. That or Dory just finally getting up to speed with world news and hearing about Cassie. I kind of have this mental image of Dory stumbling upon the scene of one of Cassie's many disasters after she's left, such as the metric tonne of dragon flesh and smashed up skyscraper and diner in Vegas from HtM, and wondering what the hell happened there.Okay, I've never read a single book by Anita Blake before, or thought about reading them, but somehow I'm getting the impression here that they're not well recommended :P
Vag of doom, hehe
Somnium, I bet there's a part of you that secretly wants to read about Anita's Vag of Doom, just to see how bad it is LMAO!!That's a cool idea about Dory dealing with the aftermath of one of Cassie's 'adventures'. That was something I wondered about in Hunt the Moon actually, when the dragon attacked. Surely a bunch of people must have seen something, with all the destruction and stuff that happened. KC's never really made a big issue out of how much of a secret the existence of supernaturals is. I wonder if there will be any repercussions in the next book from human society?
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I have also seen around GR the term "vaginal elasticity" and how Anita is testing the limits of it.
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dragon flesh (metric tons of)...why didn't the mages levitate the carcass and push it into a ripped-open ley line? There is a fanfic that mentions Pritkin's casual method of disposing of his assassination victims' corpses in a similar manner.
@ Enjee,huh thats a good idea, but maybe there worried if they di that to much the ley-line will become weak like the other one?? yet again if mages are usually zooming around in there shooting at each other i doubt a bit of human or dragon flesh is going to mess it up.
I dont like Mircea, in Htm it looks like he takes advantage of Cassie, I like Pritkin or Mircea~ lol
Sleep well Dinique! Try not to dream about Mircea/Pritkin sandwiches, or being chased by possessed fridges LOL!
How did I miss this thread before??? REally now!LOL - Dinique - I agree with you - but then I Love Cassie in any state! LOL (and the fridge was being suspicious!! LMAO)
I also tend to read myself to sleep...insomnia sucks!
On the chat of Anita's "Vag of Doom" (I almost wet yself laughing over that btw) I know I'm rather late to the chat...But...
Despite agreeing with almost EVERYTHING said, I've continued with the series....
Anita has had a thing with females (the tigress and Bel - I count it, even if it wasn't physical)
My irk is exactly that, LKH has written her in with a harem of males, and yet she still whines about how uncomfortable she is with is all... make up your mind... she either deals with it, or she doesn't... and if she doesn't - then get rid of the multitude of men!!!
I also agree with the collection! Just cos you used the poor shmuck for a feeding doesn't mean you have to keep him hanging around!
Lannister - even you pick up Obsidian Butterfly (bk9) you won't have missed much, and then skip ahead to Skin Trade or Hit List - the plot is pretty easy to pick back up, as so much time was spent with the effects of the Ardeur in the other books... (plus you miss a lot of Richard and Asher's Whining!)
There are aspects of Anita that I really like - she's not perfect, she mouths off quite often, and she doesn't have a hissy at flirtatios behaviour in the work place...
Just wish she'd figure out what she wants and stick with it when it comes to men!
I find myself wanting to NOT read any more... but then I always get the next book anyway - just to see if we've finally passed the orgy part and moved on to continue the series.... :-)
Lannister wrote: "Sleep well Dinique! Try not to dream about Mircea/Pritkin sandwiches, or being chased by possessed fridges LOL!"Hmm, now that would be quite an interesting dream. Both in different ways. Damn, I wish I could choose what dreams I have. I never dream.
Jax, I think sometimes when you've put so much time into a series, you feel compelled to continue. Like I've been reading the Wheel of Time for years, and it did start to get really bad (ahem, Crossroads of Twilight). But I don't know that I could have just stopped reading, because you get to know the characters and you HAVE to know what happens to them. Just knowing there's a book out there that I haven't read would drive me nuts! Fortunately, in the case of Wheel of Time, it started to get really good again, and I think some people feel that Anita's got it together again too?I suppose for me the main difference with a formerly good series is that I'd just wait and get the book out of the library rather than actually buying it.
Somnium, that's too bad you're not having, um, interesting dreams!! I hardly ever remember my dreams, and when I do, I can almost always relate them to something that happened in the past couple of days (though maybe a bit wackier). I never have these profound dreams that new-agers seem to have!
Nah, I just never get dreams at all. I think I've had one this year, and it had something to do with a volcano exploding, an island surrounded by sharks that were eating the camera crew, and umbrellas. It was very important that I should have closed my umbrella earlier. Oh, and marshmallows. It kinda says something about my mind.I tried reading the wheel of time series a few years ago, and liked them at first, but then they went downhill and I gave up at around the sixth book. I take it they get better again then. Are they worth reading?
I read all the Anita blake books, and I didn't know how bad they were going to get until I was already reading them, then just kept reading because I had nothing else TOO read. But...Obsidian Butterfly wasn't that bad, actually it was a pretty good one and I liked it cuz Edward was a main character in it. Though RIGHT after that is when the MOUNTAIN of sex starts...But...it DOES get better...eventually. Like book 20. Sadly most of the books past nine kind of suck in the plot department. Though one or two aren't nearly as bad as some...I think number 15 was pretty good, but then it just sucks again.
Somnium, LMAO, sharks, umbrellas and marshmallows! I don't want to go there! :D On Wheel of Time, I liked the first six books (4 & 5 were particularly awesome). Books 7 - 9 had some great moments, but a loooot of filler. Book 10 was terrible and a real low point in the series. Book 11 really picked up again. This was Robert Jordan's last book, as he died after it was published. Brandon Sanderson took over and he's put out books 12 & 13, with the final book of the series due out in January next year. If you were already bored by book six, it's maybe not for you. I feel it's still a must-read series for epic fantasy fans despite the poor spell in the middle. I've been reading these books for years and I feel quite attached to the characters and I'm really looking forward to the final book (though I'll actually be kinda sad that it's over too). We should remember that when we're grumping about delays to the next KC book (and I'm as guilty as anyone of doing that!) One day, the last book will be published and we'll have no more to look forward to. :(Aileen, holy crap, I didn't realise there were that many Anita books! I thought there were about 12 or maybe 15! That sucks that it took so long to get better. I think if a book had a great plot, you could forgive a lot, but they don't sound like they've much going for them. I'm doubtful if I'll read another Anita book (though the Edward one does sound interesting!)
@Lannister: Oops, just checked and I lied, I got up to book 7, possibly 8. And when I say I read them 'a few years ago', I mean several - I think I may have been 14. I've completely forgotten almost the entire plot. But the bits I remember were good. I reckon I might have another shot at reading them now. Or at least add them to my immensely long mental to-read list.Hmm, I've never read any of the Anita books, but somehow I think I might not be doing so. I shall be avoiding her vag of doom at all costs. Sounds to me like the author needs to learn when to give up with a series and start on something new. I just couldn't keep reading the same series with the same main character for that long.
And yep, sharks, umbrellas and marshmallows. My mind is a strange place. And I never even got to eat any of the marshmallow :'(
I've just finished Obsidium Butterfly #10 and I liked it - but then I like Edward. There is no romance in it as JC and Richard are out so no sign of the Vag of Doom - just gore, smut and Edward's toys! (...meaning guns). It is definately a library series though - too many of them! I've found it hard to find a paranormal series I like as much as KC so inevitably you compromise. Some things about the Anita Blake series irritate me but not as many as say the Chicagoland Vampires!
@Lannister: and as you say, once you have bought into a series it makes for easy fun reading which is great.
Okay...low down on Anita Blake series...the first like...SEVEN BOOKS are AMAAAAAZZZZIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGG!!! And I loved them, ESPECIALLY book seven. Book eight was alright, but I think I already started hating one of the semi-ish main characters. Book nine was GREAT, book 10 was okay...buttttt it introduced a new character that ended up being a main character, so while it was ALRIGHT, it was not FANTASTIC...Then...it goes down hill for a while...then book 15 is SUPER interesting, and then it kind of sucks again, then book 20 is AMAZING and it gets back to the GOOD STUFF. The GREAT part is, a couple of these books are novellas so they aren't full novels, so it isn't nearly as bad as it seems...anddddd there will be a 21st out in June that will HOPEFULLY get good again.
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In HtM, Pritkin selects "Ring of Fire" by Johnny Cash when they are in the pizza restaurant. I recently had reason to look up the lyrics, and they sound like love in hell. I guess that suits an incubus.
Ring Of Fire lyrics
Songwriters: Kilgore, Merle; Carter, June;
Love is a burning thing
And it makes a fiery ring
Bound by wild desire
I fell into a ring of fire
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire
The taste of love is sweet
When hearts like ours meet
I fell for you like a child
Oh, but the fire went wild
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire
The ring of fire
The ring of fire
Enjee wrote: "Getting back to Karen Chance....In HtM, Pritkin selects "Ring of Fire" by Johnny Cash when they are in the pizza restaurant. I recently had reason to look up the lyrics, and they sound like love ..."
You've never heard this song?
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I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
This line made me think of Hell, hence Pritkin.
Never heard of the Johnny Cash song either. Interesting...or do you think he plays that to all the girls he takes to pizza restaurants give his background!@Dinique: I loved the final comment by one of the consuls having watched Cassie writhe around naked for no apparent reason which went something like 'Now that's a Pythia!'
@Anna: Seriously? You've never heard ring of fire before? I'd always assumed it was just one of those songs that you can't seem to get through life without once hearing somewhere. I'd always assumed it was 'Lyubov Oksinia Donskoi', due to the accent. Do you reckon she's a consul then?
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Lyubov Oksinia Donskoi? (the russian with the serious hots/mommyissues with Mircea?)
Wow - Missed a LOT!!Somnium - Definitely re-read the WoT! Its worth it! (at least in My Opinion :D!
And you should try the Anita books! As Aileen says - at least half of them were FANTASTIC!!
Somewhere around book 8 / 10 LKH apparently got into a new relationship - so the plot did take a bit of dive to be replaced by loads of erotica instead, but the last few releases haven't been as bad, and we seem to be getting back on track with the plot!! YAY!
Plus if you ignore Anita - you'll never get to meet Edward!!!! and that would be a shame!!!
If the excessive sex is an issue - read up until bk9 (obsidian Butterfly) skip the next 5 and continue on from the Harlequin (bk15).... (bk 18 is a novella, so not a biggie if you skip it) and 19- Bullet - wasn't that great, but sets up the plot premise for Hit List - which was AwESOME!
the books 10-14 became more like her Merry Gentry series minus the Fey.... which annoyed me a little, cos Anita is NOT Merry!
As for keeping with a character for too long - for me - there is no such thing!
Its one of the reasons I LOVE my series! I know that even if I finish one book, they'll be back again in the next one... I get a little depressed when I finish a stand alone novel in which I really liked the characters... I always want more!!! :-) I can't even remember the last time I bought a book that wasn't part of a series!! (not including Dean Koontz)
i just played Ring Of Fire on youtube.i can just imagine cassie's face when pritkin play'd this!
LOL.
Jax, I agree about enjoying series more than standalone novels. You feel like you really get to know a character in an ongoing series, and it feels like you're on a journey with them, where you (hopefully) watch them grow and develop. I think lots of people like this feeling, which is why there's such an outcry when a favourite character is killed!
@Jax: Hmm, I think I'm definitely going to try rereading the WoT series, and I might as well give the first Anita book a shot.But I get what you mean about preferring series over stand-alone books. I generally do, I just don't often read a series when it has ten or more books in. Although I certainly wouldn't be objecting if KC kept this series going for more than the 9 Cassie books she has planned!
And yeah, Lyubov Oksinia Donskoi was the Russian vamp in HtM with 'the serious hots/mommyissues with Mircea'. Pretty good description there Leodora ;D I had to go look her name up. There's no way in hell I could ever remember that.
DEFINITELY read the first Anita book!! It is SUPER good, actually. It has one of my MOST favorite male leads OF ALL TIME, Jean-Claude. The first like SIX books with them is realllllllllllllllllyyyyyyy good, and Edward is in the first book!! He's AWESOMESAUCE!!!
@Somnium: Clearly I need to re-read those final scenes with Pritkin and Cassie! :DI definately agree with Aileen and Jax: I really like the Anita Blake series though I've only read to book 9 Obsidian Butterfly. I've never scored them higher than 3 as there's usually something that irritates me but having said that it's my 3rd favourite Paranormal series after KC and Patricia Briggs. I like her role as an animator, the humour, the cops, Jean Claude is fun and Edward is great. I won't say what irritates me as I'm sure you'll find your own pet hate! But I would definately read some more.
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okay I just finished book two of Anita Blake and I can't for the lif of me remember who Edward is?!
lol Edward is the guy who helps Anita in the first book, the one who helps clean out her wound, the one who breaks into her apartment??
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Claimed By Shadow, when Billy was suddenly corporeal after Mac's ..."
True, but I don't remember them really talking at all, or him having much of a reaction to Billy Joe, so I want a redux. But I think Billy meeting Mircea/Marco would be fantastic. He'd better follow Cassie to Faerie again!
Cassie getting Pritkin's ability to categorize/identify demons was the first thin that came to my mind too, but super healing abilities would be amazingly good for Cassie. It means she wouldn't have to rely on Mircea to constantly keep healing her too, and it would make her a bit tougher and more independent.