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im hoping she runs into dory first so she can explain.



I think Mircea's reaction to Cassie "making out with the mage" will be interesting, especially having read KC's comments about their "marriage" in the latest Q&A. I thought Mircea would feel humiliated and angry that his "wife" was getting it on with another guy in front of a whole load of important dignitaries, but I guess if the vamps only view her as a servant, then he won't lose face (which is important to Mircea, I think). But, in private, it'll be a whole different argument. I think Cassie will be so strung out worrying about Pritkin that she won't take any crap from Mircea if he starts on about this.

On a random side note, anyone want to place bets on whether or not Dory and Louis-Cesare are finally going to manage to have sex in Fury's Kiss?

LOL yeah, I think a good bonking session is due for LC and Dory. They both want it, no matter what they tell themselves. I hope it happens, cos LC is maybe my second favourite hottie in the book!

I really want Cassie and Dory to finally meet too - it could be in the next Dory book - KC hinted at something along those lines, but it could just be Dory hearing something about Cassie or figuring out the Pythia was revealed to be a demigoddess at her coronation at her father's courts. I want them to meet, but I get the feeling (though I could be entirely wrong) that they'll meet in a Cassie book. It's a much more relevant meeting from Cassie's side of the series. But I'm definitely holding out for something Dory/Cassie-meeting related in Fury's Kiss!
And yes, Dory/LC boinking is a definite necessity in this book. I do love Louis-Cesare. If I'm honest, I think the pairing in the Dory books is my favourite.
Hey, does anyone else reckon we'll ever get to see Louis-Cesare's courts? I mean, he's a 1st level master, and until recently, senator. He must have some, right?

thanks :)
i would love to hear cassie's description from Dory's POV. and it would hell amusing watching cassie pop in and out from dorys POV, lol.

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/5...
(Or just look under the 'Cassie Palmer Facebook Page & Twitter Links' thread on the main page.)
Somnium, oh yeah, good idea. Cassie & Dory meet up and they both agree not to let Mircea know about it! I like the idea of the two of them ganging up on him
I can't decide whether it would be better for them to meet in a Cassie or a Dory book. I guess I'm hoping for the next Dory book cos I want it to happen sooner, rather than later! It would be pretty funny to see Cassie through Dory's eyes. Hey, Cassie will have to go back to Faerie at some point ... maybe Dory will help her here, since she has contacts in Faerie. Maybe that could be the way they meet??
I don't know if Louis Cesare has his own court. I'm not sure if every first level master does (although they could if they wanted). Marlowe certainly doesn't appear to have one. I think he just goes wherever the Consul goes because of his loyalty to her. LC was Anthony's champ, so maybe he just hung out at Anthony's court?

English isn't my native tongue, so it is kind of hard for me to understand some of the books that I read(I have been reading books in English for 5 years now), and even though I understand most of them, I simply get really confused when I read books written by Karen Chance.
Now, I re-read all of Cassie's books and Dory's too, but I have some 'trouble' understanding some things, so I would be very grateful if you could explain it to me, because it seems that no matter how many times I re-read them, I stay confused as the first time.
So I have a few questions.
1. Is Cassie's mother Artemis? Or have I understood that part wrong?
2. Who is Cassie's dad?
3. About demon sex: I understood that it's a transfer of energy, is that correct? And did Cassie and Pritkin have sex at the end of HtM? Or was it just energy transfer?
Thanks a lot! :)
Scarlet wrote: "Okay guys, I need some real help here.
So I have a few questions.
1. Is Cassie's mother Artemis? Or have I understood that part wrong?
2. Who is Cassie's dad?
3. About demon sex: I understood that it's a transfer of energy, is that correct? And did Cassie and Pritkin have sex at the end of HtM? Or was it just energy transfer? ..."
Cassie's mother is Artemis, also known as Elizabeth O'Donnell the Pythia's heir.
Cassie's father is Roger Palmer, also known as the Guild member who Cassie and Agnes met on Guy Fawkes eve in the past when Cassie went back to find Agnes for some training. Cassie meets both parents in HtM when Mircea takes her to a Pythian Court function and Roger is thought to be abducting Elizabeth, who is now the Heir. Roger Palmer is rumoured to also be a Black Circle mage who led a failed coupe and went into hiding working for a 2 bit vampire gangster named Tony. We have not been told everything about Roger.
I believe Cassie and Pritkin completed an energy transfer at the end of HtM, even though she was naked and crawling on top of Pritkin it was not human sex. He still had his clothes on. But I think the energy transfer counts as demon sex, which is why Rosier's spell was invoked and Pritkin got pulled back to his father in the demon realm.
So I have a few questions.
1. Is Cassie's mother Artemis? Or have I understood that part wrong?
2. Who is Cassie's dad?
3. About demon sex: I understood that it's a transfer of energy, is that correct? And did Cassie and Pritkin have sex at the end of HtM? Or was it just energy transfer? ..."
Cassie's mother is Artemis, also known as Elizabeth O'Donnell the Pythia's heir.
Cassie's father is Roger Palmer, also known as the Guild member who Cassie and Agnes met on Guy Fawkes eve in the past when Cassie went back to find Agnes for some training. Cassie meets both parents in HtM when Mircea takes her to a Pythian Court function and Roger is thought to be abducting Elizabeth, who is now the Heir. Roger Palmer is rumoured to also be a Black Circle mage who led a failed coupe and went into hiding working for a 2 bit vampire gangster named Tony. We have not been told everything about Roger.
I believe Cassie and Pritkin completed an energy transfer at the end of HtM, even though she was naked and crawling on top of Pritkin it was not human sex. He still had his clothes on. But I think the energy transfer counts as demon sex, which is why Rosier's spell was invoked and Pritkin got pulled back to his father in the demon realm.

Pritkin had already taken energy from Cassie, when he was hit with dragon blood and gravely injured. Rosier pops in and puts them both in a spell that forces desire and Pritkin pulls energy from Cassie when they are in the car. There is nothing in the books that says the energy exchange must happen at the same time.

Thanks Enjee for the explanation.
Do you think there's something more about Cassie's father? We're not told everything.
Oh, and what kind of a being would Cassie be now that we know she's the daughter of a godess?
I think there is more to Cassie's father than we have been told so far.
KC has said that Cassie is a Demi-god.
KC has said that Cassie is a Demi-god.

It was within the ruling for Cassie to exchange energy if it was to save Pritkin's life. But against the rule for the energy draw to be one sided for Cassie's safety.


I think most of us agree that Cassie's going to hell in the next book. She needs to go to Faerie and stuff too, but I just can't see KC having a full book without any Pritkin. The fans would riot! So maybe Hell next book, Faerie book after that? I think the final showdown with Tony will be in the last book of the series though (KC estimated 9 books, so we've a bit to go yet.)


I think Tomas and Cassie will just be friends from now on, cos Cassie's got too much else going on in her life. They were good friends before, and I hope that now the dust has settled, they can go back to that. Plus I wonder if some of Tomas's feelings were amplified by the possessiveness he felt from feeding from her regularly.
KC did confirm in one of her Q & As that we will be seeing Tomas again, so I hope it happens sooner rather than later.


i cant decide if cassie will face off with tony before or after defeating the last god. but i agree with Lannister, she'll rescue pritkin from hell first.

I'm thinking Book 6 will be Hell, Book 7 the God, Books 8 - 9 the war/Tony and so on.


I don't think Cassie will delay much before she goes after Pritkin though. Maybe just a few days, or however quickly she can organise herself??

was that when no one knew who cassie's parents were??

Jackie i love the name for Pritkink. He does a lot to cassie without even having intercouse.. That is impressive

I am starting to believe that Mircea loves her but not the same has Pritkin. I only feel like Cassie love him because he help here all her life and he was her dream and crush.
Pritkin is open with her just like she is open with him. The are both like one person. they have there issues but in the end. there first and last thought is about each other.
Do you ever feel like this series make you think about dawsen's creek alittle ?
Mircea - is Dawson
Cassie is Joey
Pritkin is Pacey
...anyway
With Cassie Parents being who there are is must have so serious hidden power. She is a true bad ass. her mom sure was.
I was wondering something. Could Cassie's double be Dory with a glamour at the Court?
I can not wait to read the next one.Wonder Wonder
Pritkin fan forever , yes yes
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Mircea is my fave but I agree that he's not the right one for Cassie. I don't think their love is THAT kind of love, you know.

Do you think Rosier would be interested in Cassie/Pritkin pairing because she's actually daughter of a Goddess (and we know he is interested in genetics)?
And I believe Pritkin is a better choice for Cassie, he's honest with her and he doesn't try to manipulate her like Mircea does. And from Dory's books we do see that he changed after the spell, maybe magnitude of his love is just a consequence of the spell. I'm not sure about that, but Mircea will be always conflicted between her and his duty to Senate. Pritkin doesn't have ulterior motive behind his actions. He just wants to protect her and her Power/Mission.
Sorry for longitude, but this is my first post, so much to say :)

I don't think Dory was pretending to be Cassie, it was another woman who resembled Cassie.

I don't think Dory was pretending to be Cassie, it was another woman w..."
I'm with the going to hell to find Pritkin theory..but I take your point Lannister-it's a bit too obvious for KC; but a girl can dream. I agree with whoever posted the fact that she is the daughter of a goddess must mean something to Rosier in the genealogy stakes...

I don't think Dory was pretending to be Cassie, it was a..."
sorry Arion that was you too.. my computer wouldn't scoll for a minute..

Arion wrote: "Somehow, if Rosier would be interested in their pairing (it sounds so animalistic) it could negatively reflect on their relationship. Knowing Pritkin he wouldn't do anything beneficial to Rosier's ..."
It might be too late for Rosier to object, since Pritkin and Cassie have already exchanged energy. This could mean Pritkin now has been genetically altered to time travel or shift. Rosier and the Demon High Council DO NOT WANT THAT. Pritkin could go back in time to a critical event in demon history and know exactly who to kill off to change the demon history. I think the demon high council will step up their efforts to kill Pritkin, regardless of what Rosier may want.
It might be too late for Rosier to object, since Pritkin and Cassie have already exchanged energy. This could mean Pritkin now has been genetically altered to time travel or shift. Rosier and the Demon High Council DO NOT WANT THAT. Pritkin could go back in time to a critical event in demon history and know exactly who to kill off to change the demon history. I think the demon high council will step up their efforts to kill Pritkin, regardless of what Rosier may want.




If the exchange doesn't have to happen at the same time, and they have 'mated' in demon terms, the next logical question (reading on from what Pritkin says in Hunt the Moon) is could Cassie be preggers??! OK I don't really believe this, and Pritkin says demons and half-demons have very low fertility, but hey you never know! I love a good crackpot theory!
Arion, firstly, welcome to the group!! Glad to see you've dived right into the conversation. :) I'm inclined to agree that it's possible Pritkin may have gained something from exchanging power with Cassie (maybe from her goddess side), but I tend to think of the Pythian power as being tied directly to the position of Pythia, especially since there was the whole ritual and whatnot to receive the power in the first place. I'm not sure it would just 'leak out' like that.
Lannister wrote: "Cassie's given Pritkin energy twice now, and Pritkin obviously gave Cassie energy at the end of HtM, but I wasn't sure if they had to both exchange power at the same time for any gifts of power to pass along. Just wondering, based on how Pritkin described his wedding night to Cassie, though the text could be read either way..."
Maybe a good question to ask KC on her FB page.
Maybe a good question to ask KC on her FB page.

Agreed. Rosier was able to 'revoke Pritkin's parole' after he gave Cassie energy in return, so it must have counted as demon sex, so they could have gotten a power boost from each other. I think it would be awesome if they did, and I really hope it happened, but I'm with Anna and Lannister here, I doubt Pritkin would have gotten anything linked with time travel. Maybe either something from her goddess side, or her clairvoyance? I don't know. And I wonder what Cassie got from Pritkin (if anything). Increased magic that she'll actually learn to use? I'd find it hilarious if she got something from his incubus side and was suddenly able to start seducing people! It would be great comedy.

I'm wondering if Cassie would get anything from Pritkin. Wouldn't you have to have some demon blood to be able to benefit from the energy exchange? Though I agree that mad seduction skills would be hilarious!! I'd love to see her go up against Casanova. He could bitching at her about the Graeae or something, and she turns up the love vibe, and he'd be the one overcome with lust!! It would be so funny!
It would be a good question to ask KC, as Enjee suggests, but I'm not sure of the exact wording to use to avoid spoiler territory.

Hmm, yeah this is a question where we'd have to word it very carefully to avoid having it rejected as a spoiler question. Definitely not asking about what either of them got, but maybe just asking if it was possible for a non-demon to benefit from a power exchange with a demon/part-demon? Or is even that too much?
But even if Cassie doesn't get anything from the power exchange with Pritkin, hopefully she'll find something from her goddess side to keep her busy. I really want her to get something from her mother, even if it's something tiny. Oh, and I like your idea about Pritkin being able to see Billy Joe! That would be brilliant. If he thinks Cassie bitches a lot, he's in for a wake-up call!

I think asking the question more or less as you've phrased it would be pretty good. Maybe something like "Demons can receive 'gifts' or new skills from each other during an energy exchange. Can a person with no demon blood benefit from a power exchange with a demon/part-demon"? KC will either give us an explanation, or she'll say No Comment, and I actually think refusing to answer might be an indicator that Cassie possibly could receive some benefit?
I wonder if a demon energy exchange creates some sort of bond between them, like they might be able to sense each other's emotions or their location or something. That would be so cool if Cassie had a sense of how Pritkin was feeling even when he was stuck in hell.
About BJ, oh god yeah, it would be hilarious to listen to Pritkin & Billy bitch at each other all day long!

And I totally understand why you made that assumption - it seems a pretty natural one to make. It sounded very much like a 'demon thing', but to me it also sounded like a 'mutual thing', and I want it to be true, so I'm just choosing to focus on that at the moment, at least until KC proves me wrong in the Q&As, or the next Cassie book comes out.
Hahaha, yeah, a bond between Cassie and Pritkin would be brilliant too. And that might help Cassie to get Pritkin out of hell too, or at least allow KC to keep him more actively in the story until she manages to meet up with him. And I reckon there should be at least some form of consequences from the energy exchange, at least for one of them.
Okay, now I really want to see Billy Joe and Pritkin meet. Or at least someone and Billy Joe meet. I always thought it was great when he met the really important people and started pissing them off. He's technically dead, so not even senators can actually harm him, so threats are useless for once, so he can piss people off as much as he likes with no consequences! Speaking of, I wonder if he managed to piss off the consul much when he was in Cassie's body going to meet her in EtN before they were sure Cassie was off possessing someone else...
Well even if Pritkin doesn't get to meet him, they ought to be heading back to Faerie at some point to find the paperweight and Tony, so hopefully Billy Joe will tag along for the ride and have a run in with Pritkin, Mircea, and the rest of Cassie's bodyguards. Who might finally start to believe he's real and Cassie isn't a nutter who talks to thin air. Should be fun!
Somnium wrote: "Okay, now I really want to see Billy Joe and Pritkin meet...."
Pritkin and Billy Joe already met in
Claimed By Shadow, when Billy was suddenly corporeal after Mac's tattoo shop made it into Faeiri. Pritkin and Billy went off together heading to a tavern. I'm sure they had an interesting conversation...
Pritkin and Billy Joe already met in
Claimed By Shadow, when Billy was suddenly corporeal after Mac's tattoo shop made it into Faeiri. Pritkin and Billy went off together heading to a tavern. I'm sure they had an interesting conversation...
Just a question to you'all...If Cassie was able to gain some benefit from a power exchange with a demon, what would you prefer she gain?
I vote for super healing ability, given how many times she gets banged up and hurt.
I vote for super healing ability, given how many times she gets banged up and hurt.
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