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message 1: by RandomAnthony (last edited May 08, 2011 05:20PM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments This article about kids who are too big for strollers got me thinking, uh, about strollers:

http://www.salon.com/life/parenting/i...

Now, I have nothing against strollers, I used them myself, except:

1. When people try to take strollers places that cause everyone else to have to struggle to get around the goddamn strollers.

2. When people drive strollers like fucking idiots.

3. When people have strollers bigger than smart cars.

To those people I say, "Fie, the fact you have children doesn't mean you can inconvenience everyone else in the area. Assholes. Carry your kid in a backpack or something."

I know that sounds harsh. And maybe I should be more...what's the word...empathetic for people trying to maneuver a stroller in tight circumstances. And I can kind of understand bigger kids staying in strollers if they're going to be doing a shitload of moving in one day. But...people...get smaller strollers. And don't drive them like assholes. And be sensitive to the people around you. I'll try to be sensitive to you.

I know I sound like an asshole here. I can live with that.


message 2: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
The problem is that strollers took the same route American cars did. People had strollers comparable to the size of Honda Civics, until stroller manufacturers began to build strollers comparable to SUVs, and people suddenly "need" a giant stroller the way they "need" a 102 inch TV. Then there are the double-wides, which are comparable to semis.

I could go on a similar rant about people with grocery carts in grocery aisles who are utterly unaware of everyone else around them and leave their cart in the middle of the aisle in order to walk 30 feet away to get something.


message 3: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
I often see kids talking on cellphones while being wheeled around in strollers, actually. I'm not joking.


message 4: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Oh yes. I hear you, LG. That drives me insane, too. I mean, really, how hard is it to park your goddamn cart at the end of an aisle, out of people's way?


message 5: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments And houses, too, by the way. Aren't many houses built over the last twenty years substantially larger than previous generations' houses?


message 6: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I hate my stroller in public, but i love it too.


message 7: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) You love it in public?


message 8: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
RandomAnthony wrote: "And houses, too, by the way. Aren't many houses built over the last twenty years substantially larger than previous generations' houses?"

Yes. There may be some movement toward building smaller houses, in the wake of the subprime mortgage crisis. I don't have any statistics on it, but I read articles about it in the past few years.


message 9: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Whatever happened to the Snuggli? I was a hippy chick and carried my son around in it all the time. It was great!


message 10: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
People still wear Snugglis, and other similar baby-toting mechanisms. I think the giant strollers are for older, larger babies who have outgrown the Snuggli.


message 11: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I wouldn't mind being pushed around in a big stroller. Oh wait ... yes I would. Never mind.


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

Feeling your age Larry?


message 13: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
Adult baby....


message 14: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Really? But then, you don't live here in Redneck City where everyone lugs their babies around in car seats, strollers, etc.

People here have been known to buy bigger trucks to accommodate the car seats and strollers.


message 15: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Baby man. That's me.


message 16: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) You're in the wrong thread Larry. LOL!


message 17: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Story of my life, Janice.


message 18: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) The threads do have a way of spilling over into each other.


message 19: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Yes I've been called a spillover before.


message 20: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Is that when you've had one to many beer?


message 21: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) or glass of wine tonight.


message 22: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) See! You did it again. The thread for drunken typing is further down the discussion board. :)


message 23: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I'm so lost. I forgot to drop breadcrumbs behind me.


message 24: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) LG is going to yell at us for getting off topic. Or she'll send us to the Ficus.


message 25: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Well, it should make an interesting evening, though. I kind of like it when she yells at me.


message 26: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
In a minute I'm going to strap Larry into a giant stroller and wheel him over a precipice.


message 27: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) He'll like that! LOL!


message 28: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Loller!


message 29: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments LG has suddenly turned into Nurse Ratched.


message 30: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
Sadly that reference is 98% lost on me as I've neither read the book nor viewed the movie.


message 31: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) That is sad.


message 32: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
Not as sad as you're going to be watching the ground approach as you hurtle toward it. Do you have a constructive opinion about strollers?


message 33: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven)



message 34: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments The movie with Jack Nicholson is well worth seeing LG. Regarding strollers, I don't think we tend to get the really enormous ones around here because there's just too much foot traffic on the sidewalks. The Maclaren (sp?) seems to be the stroller everyone in my neighborhood uses. Is that considered big?


message 35: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24814 comments Mod
I haven't studied the brands, really. I see a lot of strollers with two seats front to back, so one kid is sitting in the cheap seat with no view. (But is usually talking or texting on a cellphone to make up for it...)


message 36: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11850 comments Larry wrote: "Yes I've been called a spillover before."

TWSS?


message 37: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) But do you have anything constructive to say about what she said?


message 38: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11850 comments Ummm...

She said it, and then I nailed her?

Nails are used in construction, so...


message 39: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1027 comments Maybe that's a trend that's not here yet. I don't recall ever seeing any kids in strollers that were older than toddlers. I don't remember noticing people being "poor drivers," either.

But while we're on the subject... I hate that one market near here has carts with a place for your kid and a little TV for your kid to watch while you're shopping. Actually I don't know if it's a TV or if it shows videos, but whatever. The notion that kids have to be entertained by something on a screen every second of their lives, instead of having to experience living in the real world, I think is a good way to rot the brain. What's growing up without sneaking something into the grocery cart while nobody's looking?


message 40: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1027 comments Oh, and I remember when people were putting their kids on leashes, which I found very distasteful.


message 41: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11850 comments Rebecca wrote: "The notion that kids have to be entertained by something on a screen every second of their lives, instead of having to experience living in the real world, I think is a good way to rot the brain."

I feel the same way about the television commercial where one kid at the stoplight has to listen to his parents singing, while the one in the SUV next to him has a TV screen going. The kid in the station wagon is panicked because he doesn't have the cool entertainment system.

Fuck that. You're in a car (or stroller). Pay attention to the world around you. Heck, you might learn something.


message 42: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11850 comments Oh -- also...

To my mind, it's an extension of the "divorced from the real world" attitude that has had people walking down the street wearing headphones or talking on the phone, pretty much since the invention of the Walkman.


message 43: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) What did Phil say?


message 44: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11850 comments I'm sure it was constructive.


message 45: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments I feel the same way about the television commercial where one kid at the stoplight has to listen to his parents singing, while the one in the SUV next to him has a TV screen going. The kid in the station wagon is panicked because he doesn't have the cool entertainment system.

Fuck that. You're in a car (or stroller). Pay attention to the world around you. Heck, you might learn something.


Terrifying enough, Phil and I thought of the exact same commercial after reading Rebecca's post.


message 46: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1027 comments Yeah, actually I have a lot of good memories of singing in the car with my parents when I was a kid. I guess part of it is the whole implication that actual life isn't good enough. It needs to be avoided. The other part is that as someone who meditates, it's hard enough for me to try to get rid of pictures/memories/talking to myself, etc. and live in the present - and I have practice!


message 47: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Rebecca wrote: "Oh, and I remember when people were putting their kids on leashes, which I found very distasteful."

I remember looking out my front window one day and seeing a woman with a dog and a toddler walking down the street. The dog was running free and the child was on a leash.


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments My first stroller was a monster of a thing. It was just too much work carting that thing around, and it took up the entire trunk of my car. As soon as the baby could sit on his own without falling all over the place I downgraded to the smaller ones.


Angela~twistedmind~ (twistedmind) | 538 comments RA allow me to join you in the land of assholeians (or would that be assholeites?) some parents are damn inconsiderate with the fricking things. "oh, did i just run you down and slice the back of your ankles up? heehee, my bad. oh, would you mind picking jr.'s bottle up while you're standing there bleeding all over the floor?"

LG i wholeheartedly agree with you about the shopping carts, also!!! here in hicksville the older generation uses saturday as their weekly trip to 'go visitin''. they'll stand side by side in the aisle, chit chatting and when you politely say 'excuse me', they'll both turn and look at you like you're some kind of cretin then continue their conversation. i continue saying 'excuse me'........still trying to be polite, mind you......but getting louder and and a bit ruder each time i have to repeat myself. this is 'assholeian' on my part, but once, i was REALLY not in the mood for it. so after repeating myself at least a dozen times, only to have them look back at me a few times, then completely ignore me, i pushed my cart thisclose to their backsides and in a very loud, deep, rude and demanding voice simply said "MOVE!!!!!". their eyes widened and one of them actually said, in indignation, "WELL. the very nerve". i just laughed and said, "made you move. now y'all have a nice day, ladies.". the entire store is full of clusters of these old biddies and their husbands doing that same thing. it is maddening!! i have been known to move those carts that are left sitting in the middle of the aisle while their owners meander on down the aisle.


message 50: by [deleted user] (new)

I pushed a double stroller for years and by the time the twins grew out of it, it was trashed. I joyfully burned the fucking thing in my fire pit in the summer of 2004. I hated it with a passion.


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