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message 1: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (last edited Apr 25, 2011 04:21PM) (new)

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If you are member of the scientific community in any capacity, here is a chat room where you can discuss your various disciplines, ideas, working environments, news in your discipline, great books and authors who write about your discipline, etc. Feel free to discuss your scientific background here with others and what you like about your field.

The sky is the limit.

If however you cite books and authors, make sure to follow our guidelines. You must always add the book cover, the author's photo, and the author's link (which is the author's name in linkable text).

Of course, we do not welcome spam and there is no self promotion.

Enjoy.

Bentley


message 2: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Are there folks out there who are in the scientific community - this is a great thread just to say hello and post interesting news about your profession etc. A safe place - you can talk about anything even the music you are listening to - definitely a good conversation off topic area too.


message 3: by Peter (new)

Peter Flom I am a statistician and I consult with lots of scientists


message 4: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Welcome Peter - this is an off topic thread set up so that scientists and folks connected with or who work in science have a place to discuss a variety of topics. You are pretty familiar with the entire site but if there is anything that you want to discuss with other folks who work with scientists or in the scientific area - this is a good thread for that.

I hope other folks join us. Let us know who out there is connected with any of the sciences.


message 5: by Forcechemist (new)

Forcechemist | 1 comments Hello, I am a scientist! I am a biochemist. The best field of course :)


message 6: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Hello Peter and Forcechemist - would you like to help out with the Heatlh/Medicine/Science threads? I will send you a PM if you are interested.


message 7: by Peter (new)

Peter Flom OK, sure.


message 8: by B. Lynwood (new)

B. Lynwood Davis (blynwooddavis) | 1 comments Radiologist here! Background in biological engineering prior to medical school.


message 9: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Great Peter.

And B. Lynwood welcome


message 10: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) I'm a retired high school science teacher (Biology, Physics, Environmental Science). I would like to propose a book I just discovered that relates a good bit of European history and the development of the "Dangerous" mathematical theory of infinitesimals.
Infinitesimal: How a Dangerous Mathematical Theory Shaped the Modern World

Synopsis:
On August 10, 1632, five men in flowing black robes convened in a somber Roman palazzo to pass judgment on a deceptively simple proposition: that a continuous line is composed of distinct and infinitely tiny parts. With the stroke of a pen the Jesuit fathers banned the doctrine of infinitesimals, announcing that it could never be taught or even mentioned. The concept was deemed dangerous and subversive, a threat to the belief that the world was an orderly place, governed by a strict and unchanging set of rules. If infinitesimals were ever accepted, the Jesuits feared, the entire world would be plunged into chaos.

In Infinitesimal, the award-winning historian Amir Alexander exposes the deep-seated reasons behind the rulings of the Jesuits and shows how the doctrine persisted, becoming the foundation of calculus and much of modern mathematics and technology. Indeed, not everyone agreed with the Jesuits. Philosophers, scientists, and mathematicians across Europe embraced infinitesimals as the key to scientific progress, freedom of thought, and a more tolerant society. As Alexander reveals, it wasn't long before the two camps set off on a war that pitted Europe's forces of hierarchy and order against those of pluralism and change.

The story takes us from the bloody battlefields of Europe's religious wars and the English Civil War and into the lives of the greatest mathematicians and philosophers of the day, including Galileo and Isaac Newton, Cardinal Bellarmine and Thomas Hobbes, and Christopher Clavius and John Wallis. In Italy, the defeat of the infinitely small signaled an end to that land's reign as the cultural heart of Europe, and in England, the triumph of infinitesimals helped launch the island nation on a course that would make it the world's first modern state.

From the imperial cities of Germany to the green hills of Surrey, from the papal palace in Rome to the halls of the Royal Society of London, Alexander demonstrates how a disagreement over a mathematical concept became a contest over the heavens and the earth. The legitimacy of popes and kings, as well as our beliefs in human liberty and progressive science, were at stake-the soul of the modern world hinged on the infinitesimal.

Would anyone be interested in reading this as a group?


message 11: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Nita are you offering to lead a buddy read? We would help set up the thread for that if you are interested?


message 12: by Peter (new)

Peter Flom Nita - That was a good book!

Bentley - what are buddy reads?


message 13: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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If a member wants to read a book and wants to invite other folks to join them in doing so and it is not a book that we are doing now - then they just reach out to me and I will help set up a thread for them and notify folks that a buddy read will be done on that specific book. The person requesting to do the book learns how to lead the buddy read and discuss the book on the single thread. It is pretty easy to do and it allows folks to read books that they are interested in and have somebody read along with them. We have done a lot of buddy reads in the group.


message 14: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) Bentley wrote: "Nita are you offering to lead a buddy read? We would help set up the thread for that if you are interested?"
I could do a buddy read, but I will need lots of help from you and others more experienced at this than I am.


message 15: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) Nita wrote: "Bentley wrote: "Nita are you offering to lead a buddy read? We would help set up the thread for that if you are interested?"
I could do a buddy read, but I will need lots of help from you and other..."


Nita.....Buddy Reads are fun and you find other members who have the same interests as you have. The moderators are here to assist you through the process and our leader, Bentley, will set it up for you. I think you will like it if you decide to take the plunge!


message 16: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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That is fine Nita - we will help you.


message 17: by Peter (new)

Peter Flom That is a very cool idea!


message 18: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) Bentley wrote: "That is fine Nita - we will help you."

Thank you! One caveat: I have read a few reviews and, apparently, the Kindle edition does not contain all of the illustrations needed to understand the book. I highly suggest the print edition.


message 19: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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If you would like to do it as well Peter - just let us know.


message 20: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) Bentley wrote: "That is fine Nita - we will help you."

Ok, I will do the buddy read. Thank you for your help.


message 21: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) Bentley wrote: "If you would like to do it as well Peter - just let us know."
The more the merrier!


message 22: by Peter (new)

Peter Flom I'd be very interested in re-reading the book Nita mentioned.

I will think about one to do on my own


message 23: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) OK. If Bentley gives me some guidelines, I will be happy to do "Infinitesimals . . ."


message 24: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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Yes, Nita - right now this weekend I am in the middle of the free book offer but I will get a note out to you


message 25: by Nita (new)

Nita  (goodreadscomnita) No worries.


message 26: by Bentley, Group Founder, Leader, Chief (new)

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This thread was set up for scientists who are members of the History Book Club as a conversational chat room - please feel free to introduce yourself here and get to know each other.

Here is a chat room where you can discuss your various disciplines, ideas, working environments, news in your discipline, great books and authors who write about your discipline, etc. Feel free to discuss your scientific background here with others and what you like about your field.

The sky is the limit.


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