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message 1: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Borrowed books will be available on Amazon's own Kindle reader as well as other devices running the Kindle software, including iPads and Android tablets.

Anyone wanting to borrow a publication must be a member of their local library.

Titles are downloaded through the library's website and are automatically removed after a set number of days, with a maximum loan time of three weeks.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-...

Pros and cons? Comments?


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments I don’t see any significant difference between this and the library loaning out an actual book. Only thing is you won’t have to replace a book from it falling apart due to use. I assume they will put some kind of charge after an ebook fake book has been loaned so many times. Just seems like this is the next step in the ebook craze.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Yes, this is big big news!!! But, I'm hoping this means that Kindle owners can read ePUB format, and that I won't have to buy yet another iteration of the same title.


message 4: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
God, my library is so lame. It is a complete hassle to download books. Hate. it. passion. burning. suns. thousand. Hate.


message 5: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments SWEET! It's not as big a deal in an academic library, but for me as a Kindle owner, I like.


message 6: by Aynge (new)

Aynge (ayngemac) | 1202 comments I can see how this would save libraries a lot of money but when I tried downloading ebooks, it was such a pain in the ass I gave up. I can only hope they made it easy with the Kindle.


message 7: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments Unless textbook publishers get behind this and our consortium picks up the tab...


message 8: by Jackie "the Librarian" (last edited Apr 21, 2011 02:46PM) (new)

Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments No, this does NOT save libraries ANY MONEY. Ebooks aren't any cheaper than regular. In fact, it costs libraries money, because we have to get so many versions of the SAME DAMN BOOK.

Look, we get the print version, right?

Then we have to get the book on audio CD, for all those people who listen to books in their cars.

Then we have to get the downloadable audio for people with mp3 players, and yes, it's a pain in the butt to download that stuff from the library website onto your computer, and then move it to your device. We're working on that, but we're stuck with only one service, Overdrive, libraries don't have their own platform yet. So you can blame Overdrive for the clunkiness of the downloads, not the libraries.

And now, we have to get the eBook version, and right now I am buying BOTH ePUB and .pdf versions if ePUB isn't available, and I'm hoping and praying that Kindle will use ePUB and not its own special version that I would have to buy specially just for all those crybaby Kindle owners who've been complaining that the library's ebooks aren't compatible with their devices.

Hey, don't look at the library. This is AMAZON'S fault. It's like how Apple had all special software that didn't work with PCs. It works great, but you can't interact with the rest of the world.

All of these are the SAME BOOK, just different ways of accessing it. That costs money. More money. How much should the library cater to people with the fancy devices? Is it okay to get titles JUST in downloadable, when a large percentage of library patrons don't yet have devices? And then there's questions about numbers of circulations before the publishers want us to buy another "copy" of the digital book. It's complicated!

Okay, I'm done now. :)
Can you tell I think about this stuff a lot?
(edited to be less strident)


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Yep, Bun, I hear you. This is why libraries need their own integrated platform, for all materials. It should be a one-click process, with regular searching options and good subject headings.

That's what bibliographic control is all about! That's why libraries are still relevant, too! :)


message 10: by Lori (new)

Lori Are the days a hard copy numbered? *cries*


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments I think the publishers would love that, Lori, but no, I don't think so. There's a charm to the physical book that no device can ever trump.

There will be FEWER printed books than there used to be, and fewer bookstores, but they will still be produced and cherished. Look for romance novels to all but disappear into digital formats, though. :)


message 12: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) :: hands Jackie a nice cold green apple martini :: I feel your pain. That would drive me crazy!


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Thanks, Janice! That's just what I need!

:::takes martini, attempts to sip rather than toss it back:::

Bun, it feels like we've been going backwards on this stuff. Our new library computer system is worse than the one we had before, and I really don't understand why our computer department chose it.

Transitions are hard, and the book/library world is going through a big one!


message 14: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Jackie said "damn". Hee.

Ok, in a turnabout from yesterday's comment about record stores, I have to say I like the idea of going to libraries more than downloading books from the internet. Maybe that's because I don't have a Kindle yet. Maybe I'll change my mind like I did about mp3 players. I don't know.

Hey, selector, question...does this mean people won't have to wait in reserve lines for new books? Will there be unlimited copies available?


message 15: by Lori (new)

Lori Well darn it, that's all I gotta say. I like actual books.

All this new fangled tech stuff. Feh. Oh and get off my lawn.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Okay, this is what I hope:

That all those self-published books, and all the mass-market paperbacks that no one wants to keep around after reading them, those can be digital only format. If you love them, and want a hard copy, there will likely be an option for print on demand.

Good stuff, whether it be Moomin, or award-winning literature, or collections of high quality artwork, or beloved stories from the backlist, or quirky fun new SF, that can go the traditional route of getting accepted for publication by one of the publishing houses. There will still be the need for editors and reviewers and everything we have in place currently. Some stuff that starts out just as digital will get picked up by publishers later.

We will still need libraries, we will still have books, people will still want access to stuff they don't want to buy themselves, or can't afford to buy themselves.

The book is not dead. Libraries are not dead. People who think so don't go to libraries, and they probably don't read many books.


message 17: by Lori (new)

Lori The problem I've noticed is that my library is lacking more of the books I do want to read. Used to be that they had EVERYTHING I ever searched for, now it's very frustrating because they don't. I supposed I just got the answer, not only is funding going down, but that limited resource is spread over formats. Dang. Every one needs to be like me, because my way is the best, which is only books.


message 18: by Helena (new)

Helena | 1056 comments I like overdrive for audio books, the only problem I’ve had with it is that many of the titles aren’t mac compatible so my selections a bit limited. I have e-books, mostly from Gutenberg- but I prefer actual books.

I like my library, I’m a frequent visitor... and my librarians. They’re nice.


message 19: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I am so glad I only read codex books. Except for the Jon Krakauer book, that was only in pdf.


message 20: by Michael (new)

Michael Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "(edited to be less strident)"

Here's hoping the unedited version is released! I'm curious to know if there was anything edited out before or after "crybaby Kindle owners".


message 21: by Michael (new)

Michael Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "Good stuff, whether it be Moomin,"

What's that? I looked and all I found was a Swedish comic strip.


message 22: by Michael (new)

Michael What did I miss?


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