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2011 - Touch the Dark Reread
Valerie wrote: She did mention that she knew little first level vamps. Tony is what? #2-3? I think she did not have a point of reference as for the power they carry. Mircea does not count because who would take notice at 11 years old. i'm pretty sure tony's third level, but Cassie & Billy theorise that he might have have gone up to 2nd and not told anyone.
And yeah, I love Cassie and all, but I got a bit annoyed with her about how badly she freaked out and got hysterical when she found out about Tomas. I do understand why, but still. Threatening to kill a first level master with a gun just seemed so pointless...
One thing y'all have probably noticed about Cassie is that she's desparate for control of her own life. She wants so badly to be independent that she freaks utterly when someone she thought that she was in an equal relationship with, someone who she believed was even slightly dependent on her, turned out to have been not only playing her but controlling her.
Maeve wrote: "One thing y'all have probably noticed about Cassie is that she's desparate for control of her own life. She wants so badly to be independent that she freaks utterly when someone she thought that sh..."Agreed totally! All she does, in all the books, is taking care of herself in her own way, and she hates being manipulated, which is why she hasn't chosen between Pritkin and Mircea yet, because if we're being honest, sometimes it feels as if they both want to do that.
Glad we're getting this re-read underway!OK, on Cassie not recognising Tomas as a vamp ... I think Valerie has it right where she says Cassie has little experience with 1st level masters. I believe Tony is around 3rd level and it's unlikely that many more powerful vamps visited him. Mircea visited as Tony's master, and Cassie recalls Marlowe dropping in to see Mircea while he was there, but in all likelihood this is about the limit of Cassie's experience with more powerful vamps, and they weren't trying to hide what they were. She grew up around vampires and thinks she knows and understands them very well, so yeah she's totally freaked out when one manages to slip under her radar. And it wasn't just a guy she knew from work or whatever. It was a guy she shared a house with for 6 months. It would be like finding out your room-mate was a serial killer! I think she was entitled to a little freakout.
One part of the first book I really enjoyed was when Portia, the southern belle with the civil war soldiers, saved Cassie. I really liked that Cassie had become friendly with ghosts in the area where she lived, and I kinda wish that we'd see more of that. I thought, on first read, that Cassie would get her own gang of ghosts as the story developed, but obviously, Billy Joe aside, I was wrong! I just liked the idea that she developed a friendship with these long dead people and that they were willing to help her. Now I know she's had help from ghosts throughout the books, but she's never really developed an ongoing relationship with them (again, excluding Billy Joe), probably because she jumps around so much. Maybe hotels in Vegas just aren't attractive to spirits! I also like the fact that the ghost communications thing is something that is Cassie's alone. The mages can't do it, and neither can the vamps. It's Cassie's ace up her sleeve and it makes her stronger.
Speaking of being controlled...what was the deal about Cassie in chap 5 having her energy drained into a sort of metaphysical holding pot, and warded it with some of his own so you couldn't access it until he released you.. Who did this? Which vamp is Billy referring to?
My first thought was Tomas, since Billy Joe says it was "probably to keep you from trying to escape", but I wonder if it was Mircea, since he's been controlling Cassie since she was 11. Cassie has had Billy Joe's necklace since before Tomas came on the scene, so you'd think she would have noticed if BJ's energy draws were suddenly causing more fatigue than they used to, but if it had been in place for years, then she wouldn't realise. This reasoning would apply to Tony as well.What I wonder, is why the energy 'dam' suddenly burst? What caused it? Billy Joe says he accidentally broke through the wards, but that seems strange that it would happen after all this time. I wonder if Mircea released the wards now that he had Cassie in his hands, but a long-standing ward won't vanish instantly. It takes a little while to dissipate, but BJ's draw finally causes the wards to crumble.
I'm glad you mentioned this Valerie, because I was wondering about it when I re-read the book! Any one else got any theories?
That's a great theory Lannister. Does wards have an expirery date?
I wouldn't think that they go 'out-of-date' as such, though if they were set up that way they might. For example, a mage sets a ward to work for a year, then expire. I was just theorizing that maybe Mircea put the ward on Cassie, then released it when he had her safe (or so he believed) in MAGIC, and it would have faded over a few days if BJ hadn't broken it. I don't really have any hard facts to back this up, it's just an idea. Mircea thought he had her under control and wanted her to have all her energy and power available if/when the Pythia title passed to her.
HOWEVER ... a second thought just popped into my head! That first night at MAGIC where Cassie is back in Mircea's company for the first time in about 12 years must have woken up the geis. Do you think maybe the geis awakening perhaps interfered with the energy ward?
I was wondering if there was some relationship between the super-intense Seeing Cassie experiences concerning Louis-Cesar, and the breaking of the energy dam. Maybe the dam was set to dissolve when she reached a new level of her power, as indicated by that new kind of Seeing? Could the presence of so many high-level vamps have made her more sensitive? Or, was it just one Master - Mircea, as Ms. Lannister suggests?
oh, i'd always assumed it was Mircea who put the energy block on her, and only when she arrived at MAGIC to stop her escaping. maybe when she was unconscious. that way billy would have broken through it the first time he took a draw. Cassie mentioned when Mircea fed from her what his energy felt familiar, and now she knew who's energy she had borrowed in Dante's parking lot.
Oh, I'd assumed it was Tomas, I never even considered Mircea!
Yup I thought the same Somnium."Some vamp has been leeching your strength, darlin', probably to keep you from trying to escape. He drained a lot of your energy into a sort of metaphysical holding pot, and warded it with some of his own so you couldn't access it until he released you. I accidentally broke through the wards when I tried to draw from you, and got one hell of a rush."
Since Billy talks about trying to stop Cassie from escaping, I assume it's recent, sometime when she arrived. And then later, it's confirmed it was Mircea.
My skin tingled and a mist of sparkling, delicious energy rose between us. I suddenly knew whose wards Billy Joe had broken earlier, whose power we had borrowed to fight off the attack at Dante's... I knew I should be aggravated about the wards he'd put on my power, but no one could have bathed in that feeling and stayed angry. It was simply impossible.
Woo! Well done Josie, I'm glad someone was paying attention when they were reading LOL! Well that clears that little mystery up :DEvery time I reread these books, it drums into me again and again just how controlling and manipulative Mircea really is. It's his role in the Senate and I think he just can't stop doing it. I like Mircea, but when you read the books with a slightly cynical viewpoint towards him, it's actually a little shocking just how manipulative he is, whilst still managing to be a likeable character.
However, I'm sure more Mircea discussions will come up in the following days!
No problem :DI think, although Mircea is manipulative, at this point Cassie is more an asset to him, seeing as he hasn't seen her for years. He knew she had power, hid her at Tony's and put a geis on her, knowing that she was always going to part of his power-base. It's arguable that as the books progress however (and that they go through all the geis hassle), he cares more about Cassie and perhaps sees her less as someone to manipulate. I do think that Mircea is quite family-orientated (e.g. Dory) and that where we are now, at the end of CtD, he counts Cassie as family. I can actually see him going against the Consul if the need arises (just like when he stood up for Dory).
Day 2: PritkinPritkin day! It’s going to be a loooong post but bear with me here to set the stage for today’s discussion. When we first meet him, he’s a cross between mad scientist meets Rambo. The author Karen Chance talked a bit about him about that scene. It sheds a bit of light on the overall plot, here is what she said:
Pritkin IS a pain in the ass! Not that he doesn't have more than one side--don't we all? But he isn't diplomatic, isn't suave, isn't serene under pressure. Especially not when he's thrown into the middle of a bunch of the most powerful vamps on the planet--who he considers just this side of demons, remember--and their little protege, who at the very least is a fallen sybil threatening the rightful succession and at worse, well, is something much worse.
Pritkin doesn't know much about vampires, doesn't know much about sybils, doesn't know anything about high-level diplomacy. What he does know is demons, and Cassie starts exhibiting powers that he has only ever encountered among the ancient horrors in the demon world. Of course, the Circle's Council could have warned him about what Cassie could do, but the whole idea was for him to go ballistic and remove a potential problem for Saunders, so naturally they didn't. Pritkin was supposed to kill Cassie, the vamps were supposed to kill him and the Council was supposed to be able to deny any knowledge of the whole thing by insisting that he merely overreacted. That way, Saunders gets out from under the threat Cassie forms to his position, but also stays out of trouble with the Senate.
And it nearly works. Because Cassie quickly starts reminding Pritkin of a recent almost deadly experience tracking down one of the worse of all rogue demons, an ancient lamia who nearly killed him before he could send it back to hell. And Pritkin knows that you don't hesitate where powerful demons are concerned or you're the one who ends up dead, not them. Particularly when they are being protected by the Vampire Senate. So his bad attitude toward a fallen sybil and her vampire masters quickly deteriorates into a genuine attempt to kill her.
Fortunately, as we've seen, Cassie isn't so easy to kill!
Did you see this as an assassination attempt on Pritkin by Saunders this clearly?
What is his agenda you think? Conflict much?
What about his trusty Golem?
I never caught on to the whole "silver circle leader turned bad" until it came up in later books - I figured it was a isunderstanding between Cassie and Pritkin, I never considered he'd been sent to kill her until Cassie realised it!He was definately a loose cannon in the beginning, but it seemed like he took defeat far too easily, unless maybe he was just biding his time? (which does not seem like Pritkin at all.) Yes he was restrained by what, 4 vampires? but the Pritkin weve come to know wouldnt stop at that.. he's far too head strung. So why did he stop attacking Cassie long enough for them to get answers??
Im cutting this short because Glee just finished =D
I missed yesterday so I will say my brief view on Cassie. I love her. She is sassy, spunky, sarcastic and even funny. She is fiercely independent but kind to those she sees that need her help (Tomas). I like that she talks harsh to any and everyone (Mircea and the Consul included) but can sometimes retrain herself when needed. She does seem to have a lot of good luck when evading killers but that is what makes things exciting. PRITKIN:
I did not think too much of him at first. He is one I had to grow to love. I understand that Karen used his lack of knowledge of the vampire world to explain it to the readers (which I appreciated). I did not see that whole plot to kill Cassie until it was plainly explained by Cassie.
Can't wait to talk about MIRCEA!!
When I first encountered Pritkin, first time I read Touch the Dark, I actually thought he was a bit of a buffoon (albeit a psychotic one). He was so over the top in his desire to take out Cassie that I really didn't like him. Jessie makes a good point above that KC uses Pritkin to fill us in on the vamps in Cassie's world but, at that point in the story, he seemed so utterly clueless as to actually be a bit ridiculous. It just didn't seem right to me that a war mage could so completely uneducated about vamps. (And, to be honest, when you read later books and find out Pritkin has been alive for hundreds of years it seems even more unlikely. Though I don't want to criticise KC too much, because authors - and their characters - are just finding their feet in the first book.)Pritkin really is set up as a complete dick to start with. That KC has managed to turn me around from "What an ass" to "What a decent guy" over the course of the next couple of books says a lot about her writing. (I love it when authors cause me to completely change my mind about characters during a story. I like having my perceptions messed with!) It's interesting looking back to your first impressions. If I'd been told that a love triangle develops, I'd have thought it would have been between Cassie, Mircea and Louis-Cesare. Or maybe Tomas. I would never have reckoned Pritkin as a love interest at that point.
I didn't really get the whole assassination plot until it was explained later. There was just too much going on at first for it to sink in. Plus, unless I put my mind to it, I'm not the most attentive and detail-oriented reader (unlike Josie!)
same here, I never really liked Pritkin in the first book. I started to like him in the 2nd book, and then came to love him in the third. But then, i think i now love all the characters more than i did in touch the dark. especially Mircea. he was just too purely manipulative in this one. myself, i never really minded that Pritkin was so ignorant about vampires. it helped balance out how little Cassie knew about magic, and made her seem more knowledgeable. Plus, I don't think it's too strange, as Cassie mentions in ETN how Pritkin would have avoided vamps, as they would be able to notice how he didn't age over the years - and I get the impression that there's a lot of ignorance and lack of knowledge about vampires from the mages in general (i think there was something about it in the gauntlet or the queen's witch). Also, Cassie says there are different sections of the corp that deal with different species, so not all war mages would be as ignorant as Pritkin =D
Okay, so that's my little monologue over with ;P I'll go and try to do something productive and useful now... :*(
LOL Somnium, just stay here & chat about KC books! :D I knew Pritkin was primarily the demon man for the Circle and didn't have much contact with vamps, but I guess I just thought that over the centuries he'd have picked up a few bits and pieces of lore about them. Although, having said that, I also get the impression that the 'PC' way of feeding without biting was relatively (by vamp standards) new. I think Cassie notes somewhere that the European Senate doesn't always follow the new way of feeding and they prefer to bite. So maybe back when Pritkin was young, all vamps fed by biting and drained their victims to death, and that's the impression that he's maintained of them over the centuries. I wonder if it was the Consul that pushed for the new way of feeding, or if it just developed naturally or what.
oooh good point. i never thought of that. i think Mircea tells Pritkin in touch the dark that before the senates were made it was constant war, so maybe biting and killing victims was more common then, but i don't remember how long ago it was. maybe it was after the 6th century when Pritkin grew up, so that's the impression of vamps he was originally given.
Yeah I think that explains it. If you've grown up with vamps fighting and killing and drinking from any humans in sight, you'd be wary of them. Plus you disappeared into hell for a while and spent the rest of your time avoiding vamps and hunting demons, I suppose it's understandable that you're not up on the latest vamp feeding styles LOL!
Kayl wrote: "okay first of all, did anybody else squeel like a girlie when pritkin barged into the senate meeting? I did I did!TtD is not the best book, it is infact the worse book in the series' however it..."
Ohhh, I realy like the "dirty old man" LOL
Day 3: Mircea Basarab Mircea Basarad day! Now is time for the best negociator to step forward. I am sure he could sell anything...even a cooler to an Eskimo. Better known to Cassie as Uncle Mircea.
To get started, let’s remind ourselves of what Mel dug out on him:
How we didn't know how old Mircea was supposed to be cause Wikipedia stated he died at 19? Well here's KC's answer:
As far as Mircea's background goes, there is a bit of a controversy about his origins. Because he was his father's eldest and already a respected war leader at the time of his death, some scholars have posited that he was the product of an earlier marriage. Others point out, however, that nineteen then was not what nineteen is today; people grew up faster and were given responsibilities earlier, and there is also no conclusive evidence of his having a different mother. Of course again, arguing from a lack of evidence in a time when many records were destroyed or merely not kept at all isn't completely convincing, but I have nonetheless gone with that version of events. As to why he looks older than nineteen--his experiences would have aged anyone! But in fact, vampires in my universe can use power to manipulate their appearance, which is what Mircea is doing. Making himself look slightly older helps in his work for the senate (because people are influenced by appearances and wouldn't take a younger-looking man as seriously).
Did you notice him acting differently before and after the Dante parking scene? How much if it did you think (at the time) was just acting, more desperate?
How much of his personal goals align with the Senate?
Those are tough questions, knowing what I know now :) Mircea, before Cassie ran off; was content to sit and listen. After? Cassie draws him into conversation more... First to avoid looking at Tomas, and then to keep talking. He did keep flirting. Or joking.
I think he also seemed a bit concerned with keeping her alive. Pritkin kept trying to kill her after all :)
I think the topic of Mircea's personal goals v Senate goals is an interesting one, though it's hard to confine your thoughts to just the first book. I believe that whilst Mircea is very family-oriented, in a way he regards the whole vampire community as his extended family and feels responsible for them (for instance when he want to help the vamp that was on fire in the car park, even though he was almost dropping from exhaustion). It's the Senate's job to protect the interests of the vampires, and that will always be Mircea's first priority. So far, his own personal goals haven't really clashed with the Senate's goals. The interesting thing might be if this changes in the future, i.e. if the Consul were to call for the death of Cassie or Dory. I think Mircea would believe that he could control Cassie (and he probably could) but he can't really control Dory, as she's a much stronger, independent and more experienced person. That would be an interesting conflict for Mircea if it ever happened. I do believe he would chose Dory, but I think it would really mess him up if he had a falling out with the Senate. I could see wars breaking out!
I like all you've just said, I don't think his or the Senate's goals have clashed either... yet. I actually have quite a bit of faith in Mircea and it's probably due to the Dory books :)
@Josi definitely right, thx to the Dory book: hope (faith) dies last (can't she have them both?!)
The Dory v Cassie books are really interesting because, as you've both said above, you see a totally different side to Mircea. I think even the most die-hard Mircea fan would concede that he is manipulative, and he has always had the upper hand over Cassie (so far), and hasn't hesitated to pull her strings when it suits him.Dory, on the other hand, is a completely different scenario. He's never been able to control her. She is very powerful in her own way, tough and long lived. Yet we see that Mircea cares very much, when no vamp would hold it against him if he turned his back on her.
So, if we accept that Mircea cares for Cassie as much as he cares for Dory, where does this leave us? How will Mircea feel when Cassie grows into the Pythia position and becomes more powerful and he can't manipulate her so much (and maybe she doesn't need him so much)? He still thinks that he 'owns' her (he says to her - you are mine and have been mine since you were 11 years old). Bear in mind, this was the guy that wouldn't complete the geis because it might put Cassie in charge - even though he might die because of it.
I doubt after all this time that a clash with the Senate over Dory is likely (if anything, Dory is becoming more tolerable to the Senate, rather than less). However a clash over Cassie is very, very possible (especially if she manages to kiss and make up with the Silver Circle). I can see Mircea being in a difficult place a book or two down the line!
Mircea is a complex character with hidden depths for sure. Even if he prefers to not do his dirty work himself, he's no lightweight either as Drac found out in MD.
Day 4: Secondary characters and effects on the plot (senate, silver/black circle, ghosts, fairie, gods, Pythias) There are quite a few characters in this series, we get introduced to the Black and Silver circle, we get our first encounter with Radella the pixie, shape-shifters, armies of ghosts.
As Billy aptly put it from the parking scene we know that the Black Circle is allied with Rasputin, along with a lot of other groups who're not happy with the status quo. They seem to think he's got a real chance to take it all, and they don't wanna miss out on the spoils. And, even more fun, it seems like Tony's also buddy-buddy with them. He's been selling magic users to the light elves, and he knows that if anyone finds out at MAGIC, he'll be lucky if all they do is stake him
Interestingly enough we hear little of the Black Circle side after TtD, do you want to hear more of their side of the story? Understand them better?
At this time of the story, it’s just setting the stage of the series but how do you like the premise of this power struggle?
Also we have Louis-Cesar's curse/turning to think about. Cassie and Mircea going back in the past to make sure that LC is not unmade...
Ah Louis-Cesare! He's my 2nd crush after Marlowe. I think, in the time between reading the first and second books, I had forgotten or gotten confused about Louis-Cesare's situation re being turned by Radu rather than being cursed. (I did mention earlier than I can be a little inattentive when I'm reading for pleasure!) I understand it now just fine, but I think I remember going 'em, what??' when it came up again in later books. Please tell me I'm not the only one who let that little detail slip by on first read?!
The Black Circle are set up to be the bogeymen of the story. Sometimes the 'bad' people in books are more misunderstood, than outright evil, but I don't think that's the case here. These guys are bad! I think ultimately the story will work towards a final confrontation between Tony & his minions working with the Black Circle versus Silver Circle, vamps & other magic users. I wonder where the Fae fit in. (I think I need to read the Dory books again!)
I mentioned in a previous post that I liked the scene with Portia and her army of ghosts. Much, much later in Book 4, we hear that Cassie's father commanded armies of ghosts. I wonder if this is something that might come up again in later books. (Though, strictly speaking, Cassie did not command the army of ghosts. Rather, they worked for her willingly, which is much better). We also had the ghosts in Louis-Cesare's prison devouring spirits. I wonder if we may see ghost armies in a final battle, and which side would Cassie's father be on? (Sorry to jump ahead so much, but some themes lead on to later plot lines).
Mircea - I do think that Mircea is manipulative and uses his power over Cassie to get what he wants. I also think he has real feelings for her and may defy the Consul over her. It has been said that Cassie would be more powerful than Mircea in full Pythia power. How will that power measure up to the Consul? It would be interesting once Cassie learned how to use her power how she would show against the Consul.I love Mircea and hope they end up together without hurting each other too much. They both have their faults but I am excited to see Mircea court Cassie.
Others - The pixie/witch thing was confusing to me until in later books. I love that KC was cleaver to put that in the first book without revealing too much.
Louis-Cesare - Love him. I did think Louis-Cesare was going to be more of a main character in the Cassie series but was pleasantly surprised when he was in the Dory series.
Tomas - As has been said before I really liked Tomas in the beginning and initally hoped Cassie would be shipped with him. But we only had a little action with him in Farie then I have been told that he possibly comes into the story later. So sexy and noble. YUM!
Did Rasputin die or what????? I must have missed something because he does not get mentioned again.
I agree with Ms Lannister, we need more ghosts. There haven't been any except Billy Joe since those two in the theatre in CbS, and they only had a tiny part. Cassie having a ghost army would be cool. I must admit i never really understand why she never found another ghost to go spy on Marlowe or something. Just observing wouldn't take energy, so she wouldn't have to feed it, and since Marlowe spies on everyone, she's know what the vamps AND everyone else was up to.Oh, and I miss Radella. I really loved her as a character, especially that bit at the end of EtN when she gives Cassie a few blessing. It's only mentioned briefly, and I really want to know what it does! Maybe lets her use her powers in Faerie?
As for the fey involvement in the war, the king of the dark fey wanted the codex to bring back Apollo and co. The light fey are never directly mentioned regarding the war, but Marlowe's guy in Midnight's Daughter gives her that lecture on how the Blarestri were followers of the Vanir, and the Svarestri were followers of the Æsir (who i'm pretty sure are Apollo and his group), and the Svarestri ruled whilst the Æsir were in Faerie, but the Blarestri overthrew them once the Æsir were banished back to their world. The Svarestri are trying to regain their power, so they way I see it, if Apollo ever comes back, the Blarestri are pretty much screwed. I reckon they'll side with Cassie etc in the war, and the Svarestri will side with the dark. I also reckon I spelled all of that completely wrong.
Oh, and Rasputin's still alive, he's just been hiding in Faerie along with Tony, which is why we haven't heard anything about him =D
And I really hope you're right, and Tomas shows up again as some point. I kinda miss Tomas - plus it would be great to see what happens if Mircea and Tomas meet each other again now ;P
I agree I think that should be interesting, oh and I also love the fact that Mircea is courting Cassie. I hope they get together in the end....
Somnium, I really liked that the Dory books gives us another angle to look at the fey power struggle and background info that we do not get from the Cassie series. I wish we had more info on the Black Circle. Seriously, it is not said how many members they have, how infiltrated in the society they are. Where they get their fund and resources. Are they messing up the relations between the vamps and the Silver Circle to create inner dissension and how many are actively working at it? They make the Silver Circle looking like fouls, sheeps with blinders to follow every orders without question (except Pritkin at the time).
At this point in TtD, we know only of the missing sybil going rogue I think. How did Tomas find them so easily if they are so difficult to find by team at MAGIC and co?
Oh dear, I am so confused. Someone mentioned above that when they're reading for pleasure they miss stuff. Well, I am just like that. I guess I have to start re-reading them. Too bad I have to take my finals first before I start reading them, because well, I wouldn't be able to stop, would I? :D
Right now I am tryin to take my finals and reread Touch The Dark lol...... I think that I am slacking.....
Also Mia is seems to be forgotten today. I wonder how she got that ghost dagger to kill Radu with? A magical artifact where Cassie did not bring anything with her?
@Charlotte - ahh same. I'm meant to be re-reading 'small island' and 'the kite runner' before then, but they're just so much less interesting then Touch the Dark :(oh, and can anyone explain to me what the hell those were-rat things were and how they were made, because i never fully understood that.
I wondered about the wererat thing too because Jimmy made a big speech out of them not taking orders from vampires...
Day 5: Speculation for HtMSimply put, we have some unfinished business with certain characters from this book. Russian mater Rasputin (old adviser to Nicholas II) for instance is still AOL. Did you notice something different this time around?
Do you miss Tony (Antonio)? Admit it, a vampire that is as big as he is tall must be a funny sight.
Since it’s speculation day so to speak....I wonder why the dagger bracelet switched to Cassie but not the shield bracelet from Mia? Will Cassie collect other offensive weapons?
I'd actually like to see a showdown between Tony and Cassie, because everything we've ever heard about Tony has been from other people. It would be good to encounter the man himself. But, to be honest, I don't see that happening in Hunt the Moon. I think it may be a book or two down the line yet. I'm interested in the thing with Cassie's father as a ghost and how that will be resolved.Cassie may pick up other weapons, it's certainly possible, but I rather wonder if much of Hunt the Moon might be about a reconciliation with the Silver Circle. Now that Marsden is more or less back in charge there, I can see him bringing them into line and Cassie being officially accepted as Pythia. Cassie would unite the Circle and the Vamps, and this would set the scene for the war and another trip into Faerie to get Tony/Rasputin etc. I think that may happen in the book after Hunt the Moon (though this is all just speculation on my part, I have no hard facts to back me up.) What do others see being the prominent plot lines in Hunt the Moon?
I think the reason the shield bracelet didn't transfer over from Myra because Myra wasn't actually defeated by Cassie; Mircea trapped her in one of those little prison balls, and then once Pritkin released her, Agnes possessed her then stabbed her and took her soul away.In HtM I think the rune Jera will play a part, at the very least because Cassie will have won Dark allies over by giving it to Radella.
@Kat I think Cassie may have won some Dark Fey allies by giving Radella the rune, but she also promised the King that she'd bring him the Codex and that isn't happening and I think he's going to be mighty pissed off about that! Whether having a fertility rune will help, I don't know. Didn't the Dark Fey believe that their land would be fertile and prosperous again if Apollo & the other gods came back? Cassie has destroyed that chance, and one little rune may not be enough to make up for it.
Day 6: Favorite sceneWhat was your favorite scene in Touch the Dark?
"okay, I've changed my mind. Eat her." I loved the scene at the end with Myra and Agnes when Cassie is award the Pythia's power. I loved how KC had written Agnes as a bit cracked; she was just the type of character needed...I miss that character. Do you gals think she will make an appearance in book 5( flashback or time travel)?
Oh I LOVED Agnes, and I think there will definately be some mention of her. I think maybe we'll get the backstory on Agnes and Marsden and their relationship, and I cannot wait to hear about it! what a pair they make =DI kinda hope Cassie see's her in the past again (maybe with some back info from Agnes herself about Marsden? who knows) but Agnes is such a fiesty character, I cant imagine weve seen her end yet!
I just wish we had more Mircea/Prtikin interractions:Pritkin looked disgusted. "So they're not monsters and murderous beasts, only misunderstood; is that it?"
Mircea was trying not to laugh. He wasn't trying very hard. I felt my own lips quirk as I caught his eye. "Are you a murderous beast, Mircea?"
"Of a certainty, dulceata," he replied cheerfully.
Mircea winked at me before trading his cowed victim for another that had just been brought in. This one was human, part of Tony's daytime muscle, I assumed.
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She did mention that she knew little first level vamps. Tony is what? #2-3? I think she did not have a point of reference as for the power they carry. Mircea does not count because who would take notice at 11 years old.