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I just started Extras, and it does start a new, related plot. I like it so far.I loved that the books allowed issues to be complex. There were benefits to the Pretties and to population control. Tally's growth acknowleges that freedoms are essential and oversite may be required.
extras is mostly about different characters, but the characters from the first three books do show up somewhere in the middle, which is cool...
I love all the books, ive read them all, and I am going to read them again.
I feel the same way about tally and shay. It feels like Shay is just being stupid and assertive about Tally's mistakes and even thoughShay made mistakes too she blames it all on tally. As for Extras I thought the same exact thing-can't we just leave it there and not add an "extra". But my brain and my friends kept nagging at me and I finally read it. It ends up it seems like an add on at first but then it turns into an somewhat related to the series ending Even though I'm not finished it is just as exciting as the others.
I really didn't like Specials, it just seems like all of these books follow the same pattern! I hope Extras is different, because I don't think I could handle much more of: Shay forces Tally to do something, Tally suffers, Shay turns Tally into something she doesn't want to be, Tally must fight to become herself again, and repeat!
Pretties was my least favorite. Was anyone else really thrown off when we met Andrew Simpson Smith? Weird! I felt that whole but of the story was really random and unnecessary.. And i'm debating whether i'll read Extras.
Janepage wrote: "I really didn't like Specials, it just seems like all of these books follow the same pattern! I hope Extras is different, because I don't think I could handle much more of: Shay forces Tally to do..."Extras doesn't follow that at all. Tally doesn't even show up until the middle-ish. Shay's role is fairly minor, I think. It's been sometime since I've read it, so I could be wrong.
I read the first three a while ago, but I remember feeling disappointed with Specials. (Admittedly, I had HIGH expectations!) Loved the first two. I guess I didn't feel the need/ desire to read Extras based on my feelings by the end of the trilogy, but you guys have got me interested again, so thanks.
I have Extras, but only read the first chapter. 'Extras' didn't seem to focus on the same characters that were in the first 3 books. I put the book down, though I think I'm ready to read 'Extras' now. Scott Westerfeld is such a good author that 'Extras' may be a very good book.
That's good to know. When I continue reading 'Extras' I'll probably treat it as a stand alone with references to characters from the other 3 books.
That will be good!
i liked alll 3 books it was a different kind of reading. It was like a world i imagine sometimes xD, i havent read extras but i will.
I actually loved the first two books. Specials, not so much. And definitely not Extras. It...annoyed me.
yah i agree. Except I liked Specials. Extras. . . made no sense.
The first 3 books were amazing, but i think extras was just a last minute thought kind of thing? i felt like it didnt belong..
Yeh. And when I read it, I was like, 'Wait, who? *Runs to bookshelf to check Specials* they never metioned her. And him. And WHAT? I am confused!
I kinda thought Extras was the best of all. The reputation economy was such a cool concept! Loved it :-)
True, but it didn't fit in with the others. I made me very, very, confused.
It was different, but I think it was kind of like a graduation of the series. He jumped into the future, in a world that was already well-established, to show us how things progressed. What happened with the world after Tally tore it apart. It was interesting, his vision of their future. It was different, because the whole world was different. People were free. And we got to see what they chose to do with that freedom :-)
Actually, I think Tally is more too blame for the problems between her and Shay- remember, from the beginning she's kind of taken Shay for granted, stealing David from her, picking Zane over her again and again. Shay keeps reaching out to Tally, but Tally just keeps picking other people over her, so no wonder Shay is upset. And, there is sort of a confrontation at the end of Specials, when Shay leaves Tally because she wants to stick with Zane's group and Shay wants to move on. Whenever I read The Uglies Series, I feel sad for Tally and Shay.
Ramona wrote: "I kinda thought Extras was the best of all. The reputation economy was such a cool concept! Loved it :-)"I just dowloaded the sample, because I wasn't sure about it and so many mixed reviews. I think I'm gonna give it a try when I'm done with my current read (Enclave by Anne Aguirre).
To be honest, I didn't care much for the whole plot of trying to redeem your identity, freedom and yadda yadda (I know it's important and all but there's plenty of other books on that). Honestly I just read it because I wanted to know what it would be like to live in the ultimate capitalistic utopia. If you like that, Extras is worth the read since the whole reputation thing is kind of just like the internet culture of today.
I couldn't believe it when Zane died! I was so upset, as I thought that he and Tally had an amazing relationship. Still, I suppose it was more realistic, and the ending couldn't be all happy and perfect.:(
1luvbooks wrote: "Actually, I think Tally is more too blame for the problems between her and Shay- remember, from the beginning she's kind of taken Shay for granted, stealing David from her, picking Zane over her ag..."I LOVED SHAY! AND THE SPECIALS! IT WOULD BE SO COOL TO BE A SPECIAL!!!!
Sophie-Lousie wrote: "I couldn't believe it when Zane died! I was so upset, as I thought that he and Tally had an amazing relationship. Still, I suppose it was more realistic, and the ending couldn't be all happy and pe..."that made me a little sad too even though I always wanted her to be with David. I finished Midnighters before I finished Uglies (The whole series I mean not just the first books) so i kind of suspected that the ending would be (not really a spoiler but I don't want anyone to be upset) (view spoiler)
actually there are four. and all four are great looking at the covers id never think these books would portray such and adventurous experiences
Melissa wrote: "Ramona wrote: "I kinda thought Extras was the best of all. The reputation economy was such a cool concept! Loved it :-)"I just dowloaded the sample, because I wasn't sure about it and so many mix..."
How did you like Enclave? Was thinking of picking it up myself...
Enclave have'nt heard of that book before what's it about?
I hate extras!!!
NO TALLY OR DAVID!!!!!
=((( F U SCOTT WESTERFIELD!!!
I loved Exras!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were in there and they ended up together like I like it.
It started off with a lot of potential, but he enjoyed murdering it with his teenage dramatic romance. Not enough plot to it, it was all a lot of side story with Tally's personal emotions, which I believe weakened his story a lot. The possibilities that could have been spread through his civilization could have taken some pretty fun turns. But instead he keeps it all personal with one character, which I believe culled the story and after that he gave some really annoying and pessimistic qualities to his characters. Not a good balance of ups and downs. It seemed a lot like a big ride down... and then it went flat and jerked to a stop. Talk about a dud of a ride.
People read for the fun of it sometimes not even, There's no point in saying harsh words everyone has feelings whether they ackowledge them or not is up to them. There's still no excuse for being rude. Atleast express you're opinion in a sophisticated manor
Emma wrote: "Pretties was my least favorite. Was anyone else really thrown off when we met Andrew Simpson Smith? Weird! I felt that whole but of the story was really random and unnecessary.. And i'm debating ..."Yeah I agree with you :s I ouldn't really make sense of the whole Andrew Simpson Smith thing either. I am also debating reading Extras. The fact that the protagonist isn't the same as in the first three books REALLY REALLY irks me as well I kind of feel like the series should have ended at Specials and not spilled over into Extras. After reading some of the positive comments about Extras, I'm more leaning towards reading it now, but I'm unsure. :s
Mindy wrote: "I have read the three, but not yet the fourth (Extras). This is really just my impression of the way the trilogy wrapped up having not yet read the fourth...which I'm kind of thinking was a bit of..."I think extras is actually a good wrap up for the trilogy. I finished it a few days ago, and it complements the previous very nicely. You get to see what society is turning in to after Tally's manifesto. If you liked the trilogy, I don't think you will be disappointed at all.
You really made me think and even though the enviroment did play a small part in the book and it ended as if the enviroment was the main plot of the book which it wasn't. It was mostly about self-image. And the Shay and Tally thing I don't agree but I do. I believe Shay should have been angry at Tally for stealing David and betraying the smokes for her selfish needs. But in the second book it wasn't Tally's fault for giving Zane the pill instead of Shay. Also thinking back how could Shay have acted so normal we only find out after that she began cutting but what led her to do that? She was pretty just like everyone else. So it makes you think that maybe Tally wasn't the only one who could think out of the brainwash.
Specials was my favorite. Someone should make it into a movie already. I read Extras and honestly struggled to get through it. I wanted to like it as much as i did the others, but it just seemed soooo slow. I also read parts of Bogus to Bubbly and found it interesting.
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Ok, so I was very eagerly waiting to see what would happen in the end in terms of these issues of image and girl culture and definition of self in the face of society. I think the basic message, that you can "think your way out of" popular ideas about what you should be came through loud and clear...bravo! There were a few things I would have liked to have had a bit more emphasis on, though.
I would have liked to have had more in the way of Tally claiming her right to define herself and her experience in the end. The extreme mind control/mind games played on her in this trilogy deserved a stronger pronouncement of freedom from Tally by the end, I think. I appreciated the sense of "ok, where do we go from here," at the end, which would be an accurate question to ask by the end. But at the same time, having had to redefine herself and having had that definition taken from her three times in this series, I would have liked to have seen a stronger resolve from Tally to be committed to continue discovering and accepting who she really is. I think that the Manifesto at the end tried to do that in a way. But in a trilogy where we're tackling the issue of defining one's self in terms of outward beauty, I wanted more in terms of Tally's attitude towards herself. I wanted to see some self-forgiveness and acceptance.
I would also have liked a confrontation with Shay who Tally spent the better part of the trilogy trying to save and who herself, spent the better part of the trilogy blaming Tally for things that had gone wrong. Girl culture today is filled with these attempts to force a definition of reality onto another and I would have liked to have seen an acknowledgment of that trend and an attempt to thwart or rectify this tendency. In short, I would have very much liked to have seen Tally stand up to Shay, assert that she had done a great deal to try to make amends for the mistakes she made and insist that Shay accept responsibility for her own choices. It would have felt like more of a tactile gain for Tally in an ending that left a lot of what she could have learned, having gone through what she did, undefined. The strength of character that comes from having been forced to defend your self-hood is not a small thing, the benefits of which it may have been helpful for young readers to learn more about.