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Haah. Dah 4 ebuku yang saya beli. Nak kata extensive, macam tak sangatlah bagi pendapat saya. Sebabnya novel My Sister's Keeper yang dah lama popular tu pun tak ada, apa kejadah? Tapi buku non-fiction yang dah lama saya inginkan, ada dijual di Kobobooks. Tunggu masa saja nak dibeli.
I agree with Khairul on the part where (probably) Amazon thinks it's not worth it because Malaysians don't read. Salah siapa? Itulah, asyik war-warkan rakyat Malaysia baca 2 buku setahun, inilah parahnya. (Rasa macam terhina pula bagi orang yang kuat membaca macam kita ni.)
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I think its because our region's lax of copyright laws and prone to pirates and stuff.
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Seriously, I can't help wondering if the reason is they think we read less. Last time during the early stage u-library project, the chairman of SKMM told us that when he went to visit a library in Korea, the people there really asked him if it's true that Malaysians read two books only per year.
Maybe it's too imaginative to even think if such thing would affect a business decision, but there's still a possibility, no matter how small. *shrugs*
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Found typos on other digital books also, I think what they did is OCRed the hardcopy, but didn't proofread them. Just a guess though, because this were the problem we librarians faced when digitizing hardcopies.
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Bunnybaby, wasn't there a new 'survey' that increased the number of books M'sians read in a year from 2 to 10? I don't believe that number myself. Not that high anyway. Maybe 5. But that still doesn't answer the question: why Kindle (and other e-books) are sold in relatively poorer countries but not M'sia? Togo has Kindle and we don't. Something's wrong here.
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figure dr mana, najibah? drpd perpustakaan negara?
ada tak sebarang kajian yg membuat perbandingan antara figure yg dikeluarkan sama ada drpd perpustakaan negara, universiti, badan kajian atau industri sendiri?
Ha-ah, I've always wondered how they come up with these stats. Sebab kalau statistik yg kata we read 2 books a year tu berdasarkan buku yg dipinjam, atau yg dibeli, over jumlah rakyat, then memanglah hampeh. Sebab bukan semua kita pegi library, dan bukan semua buku kita perlu beli dulu sebelum baca. 'Kan?
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Beberapa tahun lalu (tak ingat bila), saya dapat tahu yang kajian membaca ni memang masih mencatatkan dapatan rakyat Malaysia baca 2 buku setahun, tapi tahun lepas yang dikatakan telah meningkat.
Yes Khairul, something is definitely wrong, considering that we are a fast developing nation.
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rasanya bukan mcm tu. selalu dorang akan ambil responden dlm 1,000 org drpd pelbagai faktor - jantina, pendidikan, profesion dsb, dan buat soal selidik.
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figure dr mana, najibah? drpd perpustakaan negara?
ada tak sebarang kajian yg ..."
A'a yang PNM tu. ada orang kata tak tepat pun utk gambarkan pembacaan seluruh msia, sebab ini dari statistik pinjaman pnm.
rasanya belum ada kajian sebegitu untuk dibuat bandingan.
pautan keratan akhbar: http://azmanhjayup.blogspot.com/2010/...
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Have finished a book on it, the Parnassus on Wheel.
Just to share opinion here:
1. Love the feel of e-Ink on my eyes soooo much.
2. Hate the fact that I cannot realise Nook's full potential in Malaysia, due to georestriction (seriously, when will they be over with it?)
3. Really worried if my Nook has any problem, where can I turn to? Of course I won't fly to US just to get it fixed or exchanged. It will be brick, I guess (so true when Mr Khairul mentioned about liability of Amazon to Kindle buyers outside US)
4. Really helped me to read faster anytime anywhere, since everything's in there and I don't have to search about for my books, which is everywhere.
5. My daughter shows no interest at all in the gadget, so different when I read dead tree books, she'll fuss around and want to see it most of the time. I left me puzzled, is it the color?
6. The notetaking in Nook not as smooth and special as I think it would be. Highlighting function quite good.
7. Most of the time when reading on the Nook, I feel I need more than just an e-reader - I wanted to reach further into the Internet, and sometimes I need an Office app. More than when I read dead tree books - maybe the fact that it already equipped with wi-fi, but not at full-fledged caoacity to grasp the whole world beyond in the Net? So, maybe a tablet is a better choice after all? Yes, if it's e-Ink for reading, and color with all the tabs' features when browsing the Net. When is that possible?
8. Great tool to learn English, because it provides a Merriam Webster dictionary to look up on the spot.
9. Don't have to worry about bookmarks anymore, which I'm very lousy with. So my books are saved from the torture of being put face-down.
So that's my opinion for now, when I explore more, I'll share here again.
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Yeah I agree that we tend to read faster with an e-reader, and as for me, because mine is a tablet, spending for new books is too easy (just a few blinks of the eyes, and whoosh!) that it becomes dangerous if I'm not careful. So at least you are on the safer side with your e-reader limitations.
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Najibah, you'll get over it. Let us appreciate and enjoy reading both ways. In the end, it's the content that counts - i.e. the knowledge and information that we get out of it.
For me, I am yet to say goodbye to my analog books, simply because many titles that I own and wish to own are not yet available in digital format.
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e pembaca... lagi sedap sebut.. keh keh keh.. tapi kalau dlm story, saya tulis peranti pembaca elektronik.. saja bagi panjang.. heheh
Waiting for my Kindle with anticipation.
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Saya lambat masuk thread ni. Heheheh...Sebenarnya, saya nak komen sikit mengenai mengapa Amazon (dan juga beberapa syarikat pengeluar content) tak nak jual produk elektronik mereka di sini. Sebabnya ialah 'credit card fraud'. Malaysia terkenal seluruh dunia pasal isu ini. Walaupun 'masalah' ini dah sebahagian besar dapat diatasi, namum stigmanya susah nak di buang. Kalau tak silap saya, Apple Itunes pun tak dijual di sini.
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Perbelanjaan buku pun naik 40% hehe"
Ya, tepat sekali :)
Saya nampak mereka (Amazon, Apple etc) masih lagi ada isu bila ia berkaitan dengan produk digital. Produk fizikal dah tak ada masalah sangat. (Tapi masa 90an dulu, produk fizikal pun susah nak beli kalau guna kad kredit yang dikeluarkan bank Malaysia.)Mungkin juga ada kena mengena dengan penguatkuasaan undang2 harta intelek tapi bab ini saya tak yakin sangat. Yang saya tahu, stigma 'credit card faud' Malaysia masih lagi kuat. Ada lagi syarikat online yang masih tak mahu berurusniaga dengan kad kredit yang dikeluarkan bank tempatan. Selalunya, mereka akan kata mereka tak akan 'ship' ke sini tapi ke Singapura, Indonesia etc boleh.
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Perihal masalah menempah dari Amazon guna kad bak Msia di tahun 90an tidak tepat. Sbb saya mula menempah buku dari mereka sejak tahun 1997 (dan dvd pada tahun 2003) guna kad Public Bank. Ok je. Atau saya ni nasib baik?
Barang/produk fizikal tak bermasalah sangat. Saya pun ada beli barang dari Amazon pakai kad kredit. Yang saya maksudkan ialah 'software'. Lagu, ebooks etc. Zaman tu, kad kredit belum banyak/tak ada cip.
ok. sy ada kindle 3. dah setgh tahun guna. best utk membaca, tapi one quirk is slow bila nk rapid page flipping (bila nk rujuk balik many previous pages)... mandatangkan rage sometimes
*ipad, nook, kindle. etc.. all of these ereaders still need backdoor method to purchase ebook. unless.. you know what.. hihi.
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Najibah wrote: "Fairul, bukankah ada fungsi 'Go to' halaman tertentu?"yup, tapi kalau xtahu page mana yg mau dirujuk, sy suka flipp je laju2... dh terbiasa mcm baca kt paperback. :)
saya rasa ereader sony ada function 'fast page flipping'.. itu mmg WIN.
Johnny wrote: "Barang/produk fizikal tak bermasalah sangat. Saya pun ada beli barang dari Amazon pakai kad kredit. Yang saya maksudkan ialah 'software'. Lagu, ebooks etc. Zaman tu, kad kredit belum banyak/tak a..."
cara nk beli ebook dari Amazon (legal):
1) guna software yg boleh mask IP, sebelum login kt Amazon. cthnya AlwaysVPN (sy guna ini.. murah je)
2) lepas tu beli giftcard utk diri sendiri.
3) redeem giftcard dn dptkan tunai.
4) beli ebook
5) ????
6) PROFIT
to Encik Khairul H, just regard yourselves lucky..!
Speaking about gift cards, while I was in Australia a few weeks ago, Apple sells prepaid Itunes cards at supermarkets so that people without credit cards/who refuse to use them online, can make Itunes purchases. I'm sure Amazon can do the same here. Sell them at bookstores etc, and solve the 'non acceptance of Malaysian credit cards' issue.Simple.
Now send me a Kindle already.
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The same thing will happen with e-readers. There are still kinks to be worked out, improvements to be made. Wait 5 years. Maybe less.
Khairul H. wrote: "One other thing about my reluctance to purchase an e-reader (whether a true e-reader like Kindle or a tablet PC like iPad) is that the technology is still in its infancy. If you think the machines ..."i see u already decided not to buy one, so u thought up this excuses like 'ebook availability' and 'infancy tech'.
ebook availability; it's actually not Amazon/Apple/B&N decision where to sell the ebooks, because digital rights are actually a lot more complicated that its physical counterparts. that is why u dont see music, movies or anything digital readily available to download by us Malaysian.
i heard that publishers were actually threaten to sue Amazon for not taking action to prevent 'undertable' buying method (like i posted above) practiced by its customer outside US.
infancy tech: all tech gadgets are like that. the only difference is, do u really need it now, or can wait 5 years later?
some of us (like me) do need it now, badly. beside, it is not too infant IMO. i had folowed the ereader tech ever since i heard of 'e-ink', (i think it was Sony's) probably 7 years ago.. and at that time the price was RM2000+, with many kinks: very slow page turn, and no annotation/lookup function, etc.
p/s: pardon my no-good english.
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I love my Kindle but I love the feel of a dead tree book on my hands even more. Sometimes I found myself trying to flick open the Kindle as if it has paper page. Oh well, I am still too new to the e-reader clan.
Khairul H. wrote: "Not working. Still don't care."if someone gives you an e-reader as a gift, will you use it or throw it or give it to other people?
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Khairul H. wrote: "I'll probably play with it for a an hour or so but then go back to my dead tree books."and then you could give it to me, i would willingly and gladly accept it..~
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New Kindle range is here! The price got even cheaper. There's touchscreen version now, and also tablet-like version, to challenge Nook I guess. Design baru sangat sleek dan cantik! Tapi saya punya masih baik, lagipun apalah sangat gunanya untuk tukar yang baru sebab benda ni diguna hanya untuk baca je pun. plus mine is a birthday present, so i won't trade it (yet? haha).http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005...
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Khairul H. wrote: "Does Kindle recognise Malaysia? No? Then I don't care."Hehe. Dead tree books do!
Rasydan wrote: "New Kindle range is here! The price got even cheaper. There's touchscreen version now, and also tablet-like version, to challenge Nook I guess. Design baru sangat sleek dan cantik! Tapi saya punya ..."I do not know which one is/are the Fourth Generation, but the new Kindles are out. One that is called Kindle (yes, just Kindle. I don't know why), one that is called Kindle Touch and one Kindle Fire. And apparently the 3rd Generation is now called Kindle Keyboard. They might have racked their brain to come out with that name but really, sungguh tak sedap nama itu.
Kindle Fire is like NookColor, I think, but it disturbs me that these two are blurring the difference between a tablet and an e-reader. For me the forte of an e-reader is the electronic ink. If you suddenly become colourful, then you have lost your touch.
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When you said you were lazy to add books manually into Goodreads (in different thread - you know which one), I automatically assumed that you must be a male. Haha! Jangan marah guys!
If you are comfortable with GTab 2 size, then go with it. I still love my GTab 7" (P1000), even though GTab 2 is said to be faster and better than iPad 2 (and of course way better than its brothers, GTab P1000 and P1010). For me, not only the software (OS and apps) is important, hardware size matters, too. Instead of 10" tablet, I'd rather get a netbook. But then again, I don't need a netbook because my laptop is not that big either (12.1"). So there.
There's a Galaxy Tab forum that I frequently visit (where I am a member, too). Why don't you do the same and read others' comments about both Samsung tablets. Here's the link:
The Galaxy Tab Forum