e-reader?

[Rasydan]

Lolliepop wrote: "oo..skrin ipad sakitkan mata ye..hmm..skrin dia besar,kan?"

basically ipad macam skrin komputer/laptop la, which is backlit, kalau tengok lama2 penat/sakit mata. ereader guna teknologi e-ink, secara umumnya yang saya faham, dia capture partikel2 'dakwat' pada skrin - not backlit macam komputer, tapi menyerupai kertas berdakwat sebenar. jadi kalau dalam gelap, baca ereader macam baca buku/atas kertas - tak nampak. kalau komputer tablet macam ipad, sama macam laptop lah, boleh baca dalam gelap.

[Lolliepop]

Rasydan wrote: "Lolliepop wrote: "oo..skrin ipad sakitkan mata ye..hmm..skrin dia besar,kan?"

basically ipad macam skrin komputer/laptop la, which is backlit, kalau tengok lama2 penat/sakit mata. ereader guna te..."

oh..never knew bout that..terima kasih banyak2!!

[Aini]

iriver cover story ada wifi x?

[Hilman]

Aini wrote: "iriver cover story ada wifi x?"

ada yang ada...tapi yang MPH jual takde wifi....

download pakai laptop and upload pakai cable...

[Aini]

oo, yeke... tp kalau kat m'sia ni mana nak cari iriver cover story with wifi tu?

[Juliana Es]

Aini wrote: "oo, yeke... tp kalau kat m'sia ni mana nak cari iriver cover story with wifi tu?"

Setakat ni, memang belum ada lagi yang ber'wifi' tu di Malaysia. Saya dah tengok di Digi Mall, ada dua jenis iRiver. Satu yang rupanya macam Kindle, satu lagi iRiver Cover.

Selain MPH dan IT Hypermart Digimall, saya belum jumpa retailer lain yang menjual e-reader. Malah saya telefon BenQ headquarters kalau mereka ada vendor lain selain MPH, pun tak ada.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Saya dengan seriusnya sedang berfikir untuk mendapatkan sebuah Nook Wi-Fi/Kobo. Sekarang tengah mencuba Nook on PC dan Kobo Desktop. Mula-mula tu, saya hanya cuba untuk membaca format ePub di Gutenberg yang free tu, tapi bila baca lebih lanjut mengenai e-reader ni, terjatuh cinta pula.

Kalau mahu dapatkan 'feel' menggunakan e-pembaca Nook ni, bolehlah cuba download ke PC masing-masing. Kalau Kindle for PC tak boleh didownload langsung kerana mereka detect IP, tapi Barnes & Noble membenarkannya. Atau cuba download Kobo ke Desktop.

Sayanak mencuba beli e-buku dan download ke PC sendiri, kalau boleh beli e-buku ini (dengan sedikit bantuan dari luar negara), maka InsyaAllah akan mempunyai sebuah e-reader tak lama lagi :)

Antara alasan membeli Nook/ereader:

(1) Sebagai pekerja informasi, kena cepat-cepat bertindak balas terhadap teknologi.
(2) Suami tak berapa minat lihat buku bersepah, dan antara sifat pembaca macam saya adalah suka sepahkan buku, maka Nook akan membantu (inilah alasan yang berjaya memujuk suami, hehe)
(3) ada ciri2 seperti add note, dictionary & wikipedia lookup
(4) jimatkan kos beli buku jangka panjang, tambahan lagi ada buku2 yang saya mahu saya kategorikan penting utk baca, tapi tak semestinya ada dalam hardcopy.

[Syahira]

akan beli tapi lama sikit, minat gak dgn tablet sbb dah biasa dah baca buku dgn monitor pc... tapi harga rm1000 tu... baik beli iPad terus.. beza beratus je

[Hajar Y,]

Najibah wrote: "Saya dengan seriusnya sedang berfikir untuk mendapatkan sebuah Nook Wi-Fi/Kobo. Sekarang tengah mencuba Nook on PC dan Kobo Desktop. Mula-mula tu, saya hanya cuba untuk membaca format ePub Gutenberg yang free tu, tapi bila baca lebih lanjut mengenai e-reader ni, terjatuh cinta pula."

Nice choice, Najibah!

Saya ada test guna Nook sebelum beli e-reader saya dulu dan memang menarik, dari segi design dan functionality.

[Juliana Es]

Najibah wrote: "Saya dengan seriusnya sedang berfikir untuk mendapatkan sebuah Nook Wi-Fi/Kobo."

I keep revising my decision - on whether or not to buy an e-reader now.

At first, I wanted a Nook. Then I changed my mind and set my eyes on BenQ - considering the support that is easily available locally should any difficulties arise. Then my latest focus was Sony e-reader (until PRS-650 is discontinued).

Sekarang macam kurang sikit keinginan nak miliki e-reader, mahupun tablet. Masih mahu tunggu dan lihat. Tambahan pula, majoriti judul yang saya baca memang tak terdapat dalam bentuk e-book (kerana aliran pembacaan saya sudah berubah paksinya). Tapi kalau tiba-tiba suami nak belikan sebagai hadiah, mungkin akan fikirkan semulalah.

[Juliana Es]

Oops! What a nice surprise :-D

Panjang umur suamiku. Rupanya dia dah belikan Samsung Galaxy Tab sebagai hadiah hari jadi tahun ini. YAY!!!

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

Tell us what you think of it especially with regards to its e-reading functions.

[Juliana Es]

Khairul H. wrote: "Tell us what you think of it especially with regards to its e-reading functions."

Sure. Give me some time.

[Kataklicik]

Share also which apps you guna ekk

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Bunnybaby wrote: "Oops! What a nice surprise :-D

Panjang umur suamiku. Rupanya dia dah belikan Samsung Galaxy Tab sebagai hadiah hari jadi tahun ini. YAY!!!"

Kejutan manis hari lahir :)

Nanti update ya, what about the glare, night reading, where you got the ebooks etc.

[Juliana Es]

Kataklicik wrote: "Share also which apps you guna ekk
"

Najibah wrote: "Nanti update ya, what about the glare, night reading, where you got the ebooks etc."

Aye, aye, captains!

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

Saya masih inginkan Kindle sebab tu mmg e-reader bukannya Tablet PC. Tapi Kindle geng dgn M'sia (setakat ni) dan buku2 yg dijual di Kindle lebih mahal dari buku biasa. Sebabnya bukan Amazon yg tetapkan harga buku digital :(

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Khairul, apa maksudnya Kindle geng dengan Msia tu? Dari sudut mana tu, setahu saya ebuku Kindle tak dapat dibeli dari sini kerana sempadan geo.

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

Silap. Kindle tidak geng dgn M'sia.

[Juliana Es]

Ha, itulah pasal. Semalam saya pun confused bila Khairul tulis macam tu.

If the e-reader that I like is easily within reach, I'd choose that anytime instead of tablet.

[Rebecca]

Saya pun turut terpengaruh dengan perbincangan hangat di sini; baru install Kobo on iPad. Tapi macam tak syok nak pegang iPad sebelah, tiang dalam LRT sebelah...

Buat masa ini mungkin akan digunakan untuk membaca sebelum tidur, sementara belum dapat lampu bacaan LightWedge (selepas hampir 2 tahun tidur tak tutup lampu, kini tiga minggu membiasakan diri tidur dalam gelap).

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Becky, ada cuba beli buku dari Kobobooks?

[Rebecca]

Najibah wrote: "Becky, ada cuba beli buku dari Kobobooks?"

Kak Ji, belum lagi. Cuma muat turun e-buku percuma; belum ada buku baru yang betul-betul hendak dibaca ketika ini.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Kak Ji tak pasti ada georestriction atau tak untuk buku di Kobo, tapi most probably ada. Cuma entah bagaimana sekali boleh terlepas, jadi setakat ini hanya sebuah ebuku saja yang dapat Kak Ji beli dari sana.

Sejauh ini, nampaknya hanya ebooks.com sahaja yang banyak memiliki buku yang copyrighted worldwide, tetapi pilihan sangatlah terhad, dan harganya lebih tinggi berbanding pengedar/penjual ebuku lain.

Nampaknya kalau beli ereader pun, dan malas menggodek melepasi georestriction (yang rasanya melanggar copyright law), maka ereader itu hanya boleh digunakan secara sideloading sahaja.

[Juliana Es]

Ini ulasan ultra ringkas saya mengenai fungsi e-reader pada G-Tab. (I like the sound of it. Sexy.) Amaran: Ulasan ini berbahasa rancu.

Saya belum gunakan Readers Hub yang ada akses secara langsung dengan Kobobooks. Nak kena setkan connection 3G (tak tahu kenapa tak boleh guna wi-fi saja), tapi belum sempat godek lagi. Maka saya gunakan aplikasi ebook saja buat masa ni, yang juga amat mudah lagi ringkas bagi pengguna baru macam saya.

Rupa aplikasi ebook hampir sama dengan rak buku Shelfari. Boleh sort buku berdasarkan title dan author, serta favourite dan categories. Boleh tandakan bintang pada buku yang disukai, tapi satu bintang sajalah.

Untuk menimbulkan kesan nostalgik dan pengalaman real membaca buku, kita boleh pilih background buku warna kecoklatan (ala buku klasik yang kertasnya kekuningan gitu), dan tahap keterangan latar ini pun boleh diubahsuai. Semakin terang, semakin banyak makan bateri. Semakin pudar, kena guna lampu tambahanlah pula bila nak membaca. Maka terpulang pada keselesaan masing-masing.

Selain latar berwarna coklat muda, juga ada warna putih, kelabu, hitam (yang mana teksnya bertukar menjadi putih), dan negatif (macam filem negatif gitu - i can't imagine why would anyone choose this or black, but let's leave that another time, okay?).

Di samping boleh menurun atau menaikkan tahap keterangan 'kertas', kita juga boleh mengecil atau membesarkan saiz teks. Bagi orang yang rabun teruk macam saya ni, fleksibiliti itu memanglah tersangat nikmatnya.

Syok berganda menggunakan aplikasi ebook pada GTab ini ialah apabila saya boleh memuat turun dan membaca buku-buku Beatrix Potter yang ilustrasinya berwarna-warni itu. AAUUUWWWW!!!

Dan lagi, kita juga boleh tandakan halaman yang sedang dibaca dengan penanda buku yang rupanya seperti hujung riben bercabang dua.

Sekian dulu ulasan ringkas beta. Nanti kalau ada masa, beta akan tulis ulasan panjang sikit berserta gambarnya di laman sesawang beta, insya Allah.

P/S
Najmuddin tu dah lama memiliki GTab, entah mana reviunya?

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

Sebab Najmuddin tak tulis reviu yg saya mintak Bunnybaby reviukan. Buku2 cik Potter tu berapa harga? Atau percuma sebab dah luput hakcipta?

[Juliana Es]

Khairul H. menulis: "Buku2 cik Potter tu berapa harga? Atau percuma sebab dah luput hakcipta?"

Yang saya download tu percuma punya, kerana dah luput hakcipta.

Untuk e-buku berbayar, belum beli lagi. Belum dapat connect-kan Readers Hub dengan Kobobooks. Sedang cari solusinya.

[Kataklicik]

My sister introduced me to Laputa. Try la :)

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Dengar khabar Google pun sudah keluarkan ereadernya juga - iRiver Story HD.

Tak sangka Google akan team up dengan iRiver untuk ereadernya.

Apakah ini bermakna ada harapan jaminan kualiti yang baik pada iriver.

Sapa yang ada iriver hari tu ya? Hilman ke? Bolehlah beri pendapat / pengalaman pakai iriver.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Bunnybaby wrote: "Ini ulasan ultra ringkas saya mengenai fungsi e-reader pada G-Tab. (I like the sound of it. Sexy, like G-String, G-****, you get it.) Amaran: Ulasan ini berbahasa rancu.

Saya belum gunakan Readers..."

Itu satu kekurangan tablet kata orang, makan bateri. Kalau e-Ink menjimatkan bateri. Berapa jarak tiap2 pengecajan baterinya, Nana?

[Juliana Es]

Najibah menulis: "Berapa jarak tiap2 pengecajan baterinya, Nana?"

Setakat ini, paling lama (sepanjang hari di pejabat + waktu membaca di rumah), lebih kurang 12 jam. Ada lebih kurang 2-3 kali saya switch off dlm sehari, tapi selepas itu saya biarkan ia dalam sleep mode sahaja.

Tempoh di atas juga termasuk aktiviti browsing and downloading books menggunakan wi-fi. Saya belum test tempoh yang mana aktivitinya terhad untuk e-reading.

Kataklicik menulis: "My sister introduced me to Laputa. Try la :) "

Laputa as in the fiction (with illustration?), or any Laputa device/application that I'm yet to be aware of?

[Kataklicik]

Laputa is an app. I dah download, tapi I've lately realised that I'm not on the e-reader bandwagon. Prefer paper heheh

[Rebecca]

... I'm not on the e-reader bandwagon. Prefer paper heheh"

Kataklicik, me too! And I just found out the full featured iBookstore is not available in Malaysia - I can only download the free, have passed copyrights books. Down :( iBooks is probably the e-reader that's closest to the real thing.

[Juliana Es]

Kataklicik wrote: "I've lately realised that I'm not on the e-reader bandwagon. Prefer paper heheh"

eReader is more for people on the go, I guess. Waktu biasa-biasa, I tak kisah sangat sebab buku berlambak kat rumah untuk dibaca. Tapi bila kena pergi ke mana-mana, masa itulah baru appreciate 'untungnya kalau ada ereader'.

And also, because I have to read so many articles in PDF, not having to print them is a bliss! Even though I don't mind buying more dead tree books, I'd become an environmentalist when it comes to printing from my own printer (maklumlah, nak jimat toner dan kertas!).

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Especially useful when you have a little baby too. I often forget to bring the books with me even when I put it on couch near the door, lots of hurrying around not to miss feeding time and pumping time.

It also saves me the confusion, because I used to put book face down to tend to the kids, if I have an ereader I need not worry about bookmarking, it will automatically do that for you.

[Juliana Es]

Another added bonus with this G-Tab (or any other tablet) cum ereader is, I can have Al-Quran with me all the time. Dah tanya seorang ustaz tentang hukum bawa device yang di dalamnya ada al-Quran digital, adakah sama seperti hukum membawa mushaf? Jawapannya, as long as the Quran is not switched on (off the screen) when we go to toilet, it's fine.

Here is my latest update on using G-Tab for ereading.
By the way, the price of G-Tab P1000 is falling down almost every week. So this is probably a good time to buy it.

I've installed Kobo app on it. Readers Hub is a Samsung app, which connects to Kobo and Zinio. Although I supposedly can update Kobo from Readers Hub, it is much easier to have Kobo app installed separately.

So far I've only bought one ebook from Kobobooks. With Kobo app, I can't customize the color of the background like the G-Tab default ebook app, but Kobo offers other perks, such as 20% discounts for the first ebook purchase, awards, etc., all bundled in its Reading Life program. Screen brightness and font size adjustment are still possible on Kobo, and you can highlight text, make some notes on the page, and share phrases that you like on FB.

Next I'd like to try buying ebooks from Borders, which also connects to Kobo. I've browsed Book Depository, but all the titles that I want are out of stock. So Khairul is right about Amazon having the largest collection (mesti dia 'eksyen' dan mengangkat Amazon Kindle selepas ni).

[Lolliepop]

ok, now i really want an e-reader!!

btw, what will all of u guys come out with these characteristics:

1. ereader(epub,pdf etc)
2. can surf the web
3. music?
4. for students like me
5. worth the price
6. skrin yang tak sakitkan mata
7. not really into games
8. can buy in Malaysia without the need to use any backdoor
9. ebooks can be easily added to the ereader

now, now let's see!!

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

if you want to surf the web, i believe you need a tab, not ordinary ereader

[Nazmi, Pengarang akhbar dan kreatif]

Najibah wrote: "if you want to surf the web, i believe you need a tab, not ordinary ereader"

tak silap, kindle boleh surf internet

[Ulya A.K]

Tips: another way to download books into your e-reader, assuming you can get hold of books from various websites out there (eg 4shared) is to download Calibre application, where you can convert any document to an e-reader-friendly version (or convert to computer-readable version too)..

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

The reason I did not recommend the Kindle to her is because what she wrote on no. 8: can buy in Malaysia without the need to use any backdoor.

Kindle not legally recognised in M'sia. Kalau tak, dah lama saya beli dua.

[Juliana Es]

Laa, baru tahu Lolliepop tu female. Never bothered to check her profile page before.

Setakat ni e-reader yang dijual di Malaysia tidak ada versi yang boleh surf Internet.

BTW, I quite recently discovered that Kobo app allows you to switch the text background into night mode, making it white font with black background. Not sure if this is more gentle to the eyes for night reading, for I still prefer black font against white.

In terms of ebook purchase, there is indeed georestriction if you try to buy direct from online bookstore, say, Borders.com. I was so frustrated when I couldn't buy 3 Jodi Picoult novels from Borders online. Apparently the ebookstore is tied with Kobo, so if the title that you want is not available at Kobo (direct browsing from Kobo app), you can safely assume that if you try to buy it from Borders.com, you won't get it.

So Lolliepop, you need to be clear on your wants and needs. GTab 7" is pretty much the same size as an e-reader, but you get less battery time and a backlit screen that is sure to strain your eyes after a prolonged use. Installing e-reading app is easy, and so is buying ebooks.

E-readers sold in Malaysia don't have Internet-browsing features but you measure the battery time in days instead of hours. And then the ebooks have to be transferred from PC to ereader.

Choose wisely.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Ulya wrote: "Tips: another way to download books into your e-reader, assuming you can get hold of books from various websites out there (eg 4shared) is to download Calibre application, where you can convert any..."

Or if you want something simpler, you can try Adobe Digital Edition. It's called sideloading into your e-reader.

Afiq wrote: "Lolliepop wrote: "ok, now i really want an e-reader!!

btw, what will all of u guys come out with these characteristics:

1. ereader(epub,pdf etc)
2. can surf the web
3. music?
4. for students like..."

You cannot make annotation on Kindle? Nook has that capability.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Mohd Nazmi wrote: "Najibah wrote: "if you want to surf the web, i believe you need a tab, not ordinary ereader"

tak silap, kindle boleh surf internet"

I meant to say that a better choice would be a tab, because true ereader type with eInk technology, have restrictions when it comes to Internet surfing.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Bunnybaby wrote: "Laa, baru tahu Lolliepop tu female. Never bothered to check her profile page before.

Setakat ni e-reader yang dijual di Malaysia tidak ada versi yang boleh surf Internet.

BTW, I quite recently di..."

Nana, so you've bought something from Kobobooks.com eh? Quite a good range of book titles, even though not as extensive as Amazon / B&N.

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

The founder of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, says that the Kindle is digital version of a book. It was never designed to be a tablet PC. You can't read/send emails on a Kindle, surf the 'net and all that. It's a book in a digital format. Nothing more nothing less. If anyone wants an e-reader and surf the net as well, they are better off with an Ipad, Tab or Xoom.

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Khairul H. wrote: "The reason I did not recommend the Kindle to her is because what she wrote on no. 8: can buy in Malaysia without the need to use any backdoor.

Kindle not legally recognised in M'sia. Kalau tak, da..."

Khairul, even if it's not legally recognised I believe it does not fall under counterfeitable goods? Because when they shipped into Malaysia through posting agents, the custom did not counterfeit them.

And I think what makes it not legal (yet) anyway is because Amazon, B&N or Kobo still do not want to venture internationally (or lack of local players who want to be partners?) - even when there are high demands. What do you think? What hinders them, I wonder.

Plus, I heard that any electronic goods to be sold in local market need to adhere to certain standard under SIRIM. Is it true?

[Khairul Hezry, I hate people but not you. You, I like.]

No, it's not considered counterfeit. It's just that the customer is not covered by any insurance in case of damage to the machine since the country (M'sia) is not recognised by Kindle. I was looking at the liability aspect.

I don't think Amazon doesn't want to venture internationally but I don't know what the reason for a lack of Kindle coverage in M'sia. No local partners? Didn't they try MAXIS? Maybe they think it's not worth it because M'sians don't read?

Ask Faizah about the SIRIM standards. She works there doesn't she?

[Najibah, Penterjemah yang mencintai kata-kata]

Yup, forgot about Faizah.

FAIZAH, where are you? Haven't seen you around in GRMY these few days.

[Lolliepop]

oh..btw,to Bunnybaby, did I write like a boy or something before?kesian saya...;) haha

anyway, good recommendation from you guys although i still cant decide which is better.I seriously didnt consider Kindle as an option cause of that Amazon-not-shipping-to-malaysia thing, but good point of view up there!

and, i've been putting on attention to the second version of galaxy tab, namely Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 v or just galaxy tab 2..is it up to my characteristics?