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Shelf Changes!New Shelves:
2011, 5-stars, dtbooks, electronic-library, maybe-to-read, medieval, middle-grade, mm, modern, need-to-get, nook, read-in-2011, sff, to-acquire
Old Shelves that are gone:
adult-books, books-to-check-out, childhood-books, crafts, fantasy-scifi, fantasy-sf, graphicnovels, manga-manhwa, on-my-bookshelf, pdf, read-2007, romance-erotica-pnr-to-read, sci-fi-and-fantasy, traded
And the moment you've all been waiting for.Shelf-A-Thon 7 Shelves!!
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
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2000s
2008-reads
2009-books
2009-read
2009-reads
2010-books
2010-read
2010-reads
20th-century
21st-century
5-stars
abandoned
academic
action
action-adventure
adult
adult-fiction
adult-non-fiction
adventure
all-time-favorites
already-read
amazon-wishlist
american
american-history
and
animals
anthologies
anthology
anthropology
arc
art
at-library
audio
audio-book
audio-books
audiobook
audiobooks
autobiography
biographies
biography
biography-memoir
book
book-club
bookclub
bookcrossing
bookcrossing-com
books
books-i-own
books-i-own-to-read
books-i-want
books-owned
books-read-in-2009
books-read-in-2010
books-to-buy
bookshelf
borrowed
british
business
chick-lit
chicklit
childhood
childhood-favorites
children
children-books
children-s
children-s-books
children-s-lit
children-s-literature
childrens
childrens-books
childrens-fiction
childrens-lit
childrens-picture-books
childrensbooks
christian
christian-fiction
christianity
classic
classics
collection
college
comedy
comic
comic-books
comics
coming-of-age
contemporary
contemporary-fiction
contemporary-romance
cookbooks
cooking
couldn-t-finish
crime
crime-fiction
culture
currently-own
design
did-not-finish
didn-t-finish
do-not-own
don-t-own
drama
dtbooks
e-book
e-books
ebook
ebooks
economics
education
electronic-library
england
english
erotic-romance
erotica
essays
europe
family
fantasy
fantasy-sci-fi
faves
favorite
favorite-authors
favorite-books
favorites
favourites
feminism
fiction
film
finished
first-reads
fluff
food
for-review
for-school
french
friendship
fun
funny
gay
general
general-fiction
german
glbt
graphic
graphic-novel
graphic-novels
guilty-pleasures
harlequin
have
have-read
health
high-school
historical
historical-fiction
historical-romance
historicalfiction
history
home-library
horror
humor
humour
i-own
i-own-it
i-own-this
in-english
in-my-library
indonesian
inspirational
juvenile
juvenile-fiction
keepers
kid-books
kids
kids-books
kindle
language
library
library-book
library-books
lit
literary
literary-fiction
literature
love
m-m
magic
manga
maybe
maybe-to-read
medieval
memoir
memoirs
middle-grade
military
mine
mm
modern
modern-fiction
music
must-read
my-books
my-favorites
my-library
mysteries
mystery
mystery-suspense
mystery-thriller
mythology
nature
need-to-buy
need-to-get
never-finished
non-fiction
nonfiction
nook
not-at-library
not-available-yet
not-owned
not-read
novel
novels
on-hold
on-my-shelf
other
own
own-a-copy
own-but-not-read
own-it
own-to-read
owned
owned-books
paperback
paranormal
paranormal-romance
parenting
part-of-a-series
partially-read
personal-library
philosophy
photography
picture-book
picture-books
picturebooks
plays
poetry
political
politics
psychology
queer
re-read
read-2008
read-2009
read-2010
read-aloud
read-in-2007
read-in-2008
read-in-2009
read-in-2010
read-in-2011
read-more-than-once
realistic-fiction
recommended
reference
relationships
religion
religious
reread
research
reviewed
romance
school
sci-fi
sci-fi-fantasy
science
science-fiction
science-fiction-fantasy
scifi
scifi-fantasy
second-hand-bookshop-wishlist
self-help
series
sf
sf-fantasy
sff
short-stories
signed
sociology
speculative-fiction
spiritual
spirituality
spl
sports
stories
supernatural
suspense
tbr
teen
teen-fiction
textbooks
theology
theory
thriller
thrillers
to-acquire
to-buy
to-get
to-purchase
to-re-read
to-read-fiction
to-read-own
to-reread
to-review
travel
unfiled
unfinished
unread
unsorted
urban-fantasy
vampires
want
want-to-buy
want-to-own
want-to-read
war
warehouse
we-own
western
wish-list
wishlist
women
writing
ya
ya-books
ya-fiction
ya-lit
young-adult
young-adult-books
young-adult-fiction
youngadult
youth
I've got the excel spread sheet. Either post your email here or pm me your email address.
Adrienne, thanks for your hard work on this! I have a spreadsheet if anyone needs it.
In the interest of multiple posts:Are we going to continue to cross of shelves for deleted shelves that were hit in the last challenge?
Rather than highest number of shelves hit, we could do something like most improved from one month to the next - or just do randoms.
I don't know about having the top shelver pick something for everyone to cross off - we all have different shelves that we might consider hard to get. Also - I'd be EXTREMELY frustrated if I were reading a book for a specific shelf and it was crossed off.
Yes, we are going to do the deleted shelves cross off.I like the most improved idea. That would be easy to track. Also, we will keep doing random drawings.
You're right about the crossing off. That would be frustrating. Keep thinking.
Lets just do most improved & random. The usual people (ie me and Sandy) will get the shelves for the first month and then after that it will get spread out. We get to cross off quite a bit for GR authors and for page numbers.
Maybe for the next round we could have the top few shelvers pick shelves for the challenge (do some criteria such as the shelf must have 2000 books on it). These could replace the bottom few on the top 350 list.
Liz wrote: "Lets just do most improved & random. The usual people (ie me and Sandy) will get the shelves for the first month and then after that it will get spread out. We get to cross off quite a bit for G..."
This sounds good to me, too.
I like it. Good thinking. I have worn off all my thinking bumps today.
Incidentally, anyone know what a dtbooks is?
dtbooks... That's going to be on my to-cross-off list! It looks like it's just 1 girl in Australia who has shelved like 4000 books as "dtbooks"... grrr...http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show?s...
Adrienne wrote: "Incidentally, anyone know what a dtbooks is?"dead tree books, I believe - you see it used a lot in ebook forums.
Since this is my second time around I want to make sure I understand: For each of the newly deleted shelves I hit last time I get a free cross- off?Btw thanks to those who put it together and do the spreadsheets.
Lahni wrote: "Since this is my second time around I want to make sure I understand: For each of the newly deleted shelves I hit last time I get a free cross- off?Btw thanks to those who put it together and do..."
Yes, but only for shelves you actually hit, not ones you crossed off for GR authors or XL books. Unless of course, you actually did hit it with a book later.
I'll post it in the the reporting thread, too.
LOL. Sorry Dionisa.We track the number of unique shelves each person has "touched" by reading the books. So the first month, the people with the most shelves read, would be the most improved, but the next month, someone lower down the list might have the chance of getting the "most improved" award. In the past, the people with the highest number of shelves touched have gotten to cross off another shelf for free, but it didn't seem fair since they were most likely going to win, anyway.
We also draw two random shelvers' names out of a hat and they get to cross of a shelf for free.
Hope that clears it all up for you.
And I spelled your name wrong, too. Sorry Dionisia.
Hey! Where'd she go? I'm losing my mind!
Ah crud I deleted my previous post! Thank you Adrienne for breaking it down for me. Slowly but surely it's all beginning to make sense. I'm really excited about this. I don't have much of a plan though. Is wingin' it a plan? Don't feel too bad about the misspelling. You should here the colorful ways some people try to pronounce my name, tehehehe.
Thx for putting this together. I'm gonna try for the first time :) looking forward to it :)I'll start by asking 2 questions, just to be sure I understand.
1) I read books in different languages. a lot of the time each book in a specific language is a different entry in goodreads. To see which selfs the book hits you use the one in the language you actually read the book, right?
2) I presume you have to look at the hit shelfs before you add it to shelfs yourself, right?
Sandy wrote: "Adrienne, thanks for your hard work on this! I have a spreadsheet if anyone needs it."Sandy - Could I get a copy of your spreadsheet?
Thanks!
LadyHeather wrote: "Thx for putting this together. I'm gonna try for the first time :) looking forward to it :)I'll start by asking 2 questions, just to be sure I understand.
1) I read books in different language..."
Lady Heather, I can answer question 2, by saying right. Check the shelves it's on before you add it to your own shelves.
Question 1, might have to be answered by other people who read in other languages. Um, anyone else wanna handle that one? If you don't get an answer in a bit, come back to me and I'll see what I can do.
I always use the number of pages of the edition I read, except for when I listen to audiobooks—then I use the most "popular" edition.And I usually add the books I read to my shelves before I check which shelves I've hit... Oops!
Sara ♥ wrote: "I always use the number of pages of the edition I read, except for when I listen to audiobooks—then I use the most "popular" edition."Is this what other people do to? check which shelfs their books hits with the edition you've read? or do most people use the "popular" edition?
Sara ♥ wrote: "And I usually add the books I read to my shelves before I check which shelves I've hit... Oops! "
That would be interesting if you read a book that hits less than 1 page shelfs, then you could add it to all the shelfs that are hard to reach ;)
LadyHeather wrote: "Is this what other people do to? check which shelfs their books hits with the edition you've read? or do most people use the "popular" edition? "I'm not positive about this, but I think the shelves are the same no matter which edition you use. The page numbers are different, but I don't think the shelves are.
I just looked at the shelves for a hardback, a paperback, a kindle and an audio version of the same book. I didn't compare every one of the shelves, but the shelf page looked the same each time, and the top and bottom entries on each of the 3 columns were the same.So, I don't think it matters which edition you use to look at the shelves. The difference is in the page counts.
Sandy wrote: "I just looked at the shelves for a hardback, a paperback, a kindle and an audio version of the same book. I didn't compare every one of the shelves, but the shelf page looked the same each time, a..."Oh ok thanks, so edition doesn't matter. but my original question actually was about which language edition you use. I would think I would have to use the edition (language) I actually read, but sometimes another languages is more popular (and on different shelfs). I don't think different languages work the same as different editions (paperback/audio/ebooks etc) do they?
edit: I just looked at the third Millenium trilogy book as an example, and there the other language books are actually noted as different editions. But for some other books this is not (yet) true. I think a goodreads librarian has to connect the 2 books to each other first... (does that sound right?)
sorry for the difficult questions :)
As far as I can tell as long as goodreads has the books as different editions of the same book (regardless of language) they will have the same shelves. The problems may arise if the books are not viewed as two editions of the same book, but as different books.
Books translated into different languages should be combined with the original book. If they aren't, you can let a GR librarian (like me) know and we can combine them for you. And yes, the shelves ARE the same for all combined editions, thank goodness! I listen to wacky audio additions a lot...
Liz, can I get a copy of the spreadsheet, please? My email is sswank00@gmail.com. Thanks!!As a newcomer and first timer to this here challenge, I must say it sounds like lots of fun and doesn't seem to be too hard once you understand it all. Didn't take too much to start to get the hang of it. :)
I should have sent out all the spread sheets that people have asked for. If I missed you let me know.
Sara ♥ wrote: "And yes, the shelves ARE the same for all combined editions, thank goodness! I listen to wacky audio additions a lot... "Great! It is all clear to me now (and got fixed for the book I read :) ) and indeed, thank goodness shelfs are the same, that makes it a lot better!
i keep trying to do this one and fall off the wagon within a month, but i'm going to try again...lol! can you email to me please - littlemisscasualty@gmail.com
Delicious Dee Challenge Addict wrote: "i keep trying to do this one and fall off the wagon within a month, but i'm going to try again...lol! can you email to me please - littlemisscasualty@gmail.com"You can do it this time!
question - on anthologies - if 3 of the 4 authors are GR authors - can I count that for the bonus?
Delicious Dee Challenge Addict wrote: "question - on anthologies - if 3 of the 4 authors are GR authors - can I count that for the bonus?"I would say yes.
Anthologies: I think Angela ok'd one I'd read where only 1 of 3 or 4 was a GR author (iffy), but I think 2+ of 4 is fair!
Thank you all for keeping this going!! Work has me too stressed out and I am not able to keep up with personal things as much. I appreciate it!! Have fun and I hope to join you soon again ;)
Thanks for giving it your blessing, Angela.
Start: February 1, 2011
*Any book that you finish after this date can be used for this challenge.
End: April 30, 2011
1. To have read a book off a shelf, you must read a book that is found on that particular shelf. ie. to have read book off the classics shelf, you must read a book that is found on "classics" shelf within the first page.
Here is how you find the page:
-Find the book you just read and click on it so you get to the orginal page. For example: Grapes of Wrath http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4395....
-After you get to this page, look all the way to the right hand side and find Popular Shelves, click on more shelves and you should get to this page: http://www.goodreads.com/book/shelves/43...
and cross off the shelves you 'touched' on the first page.
2. A single book may be found on several shelves however we will only count the first page of top shelves for this book. For example, you may find a book that has 148+ pages of shelves (such as Grapes of Wrath), but only count the first page.
3. You don’t have to read off the shelves in any particular order of shelves.
4. The name of shelves must MATCH EXACTLY to the shelf you are trying to count. No deviations are acceptable (check the spelling off the official list below). For example one shelf reads: 2008-books and another 2008-book or childrens or children-s.
5. It is permissible to read a book that is found on a shelf you've already counted. I may read 10 books that include the shelf "books-i-own". After you have found this shelf once, continue to check off the same shelf, but do not count it as an additonal shelf. At the end of the round, report the shelf you hit the most.
6. Reporting
All we want you to report on the thread is the number of books you've read and the number of shelves these books are found on. Do not report titles because that will give your competitors a strategic edge. I will be creating a another thread where people can post questions on where to find a shelf. So if someone is looking specifically for economics, they can ask other players where they found that shelf. Some of us would like to keep this a secret, as it may give the competitors who are trying to get the most shelves more of an advantage.
For example:
52 shelves
2 books
b. You must track the titles read and the shelves on your own. You can come up with your own method of tracking. I personally print the list and highlight the shelves I have hit, but someone out there may have made a excel spreadsheet, which can be requested by other players via email.
7.HOW DO I GET RID OF SHELVES I CAN'T TOUCH??
If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you cannot change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.
* 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 500 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 600 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 700-1000 and over pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice
(Please include this in your reporting)
For example:
216 shelves
23 books
Book over 400 pages crossed off so and so shelf.
8.At the end of each month, the top three shelvers will be allowed to cross off 3 shelves. I will also randomly (names out of a hat) pick 3 people to cross off 2 shelves of their choice.
9.We will continue to celebrate GR authors, so if you read a book by a good reads author, you can eliminate one shelf.
9. Objective
The "winner" is one who has either read off all 350 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 350 shelves by the end date, January 31st.
*Also, please post the shelf you 'touched' the most at the end of the challenge.
This is still Angela' challenge, I'm just trying to keep it going til she's ready to take charge again. Hope it is smooth-ish sailing. - Adrienne