What Sub-Genre is this?

[Kevin]

I came across this map by Kevin Hearne on Babel Clash. I don't agree with everything on it but it's amusing and somewhat relevant to the discussion. :p

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

I love it!!

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

I've read Yeti shifter PNR...


Seriously.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Yeah, I had some scarring...the scene when the guy shifted into a yeti and then his g/f climbs naked onto his back and they go body sleding down a snow covered mountian side?

I couldn't wear white or see snow for weeks after.

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

MrsJoseph wrote: "Yeah, I had some scarring...the scene when the guy shifted into a yeti and then his g/f climbs naked onto his back and they go body sleding down a snow covered mountian side?

I couldn't wear whi..."

Nothing like spreading the pain around. :>

[Mark]

Jason wrote: "I know what you mean, Mike. I help customers sometimes when I'm at Chapters. Once there was this woman looking for the recent WoT book. She was looking for it on the shelves with a Chapters employe..."

I do that in both bookstores and libraries out of force of habit... and they also don't listen and get everything wrong here too... I wonder if that's a force of habit too..?

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Colleen ~blackrose~ wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: "Yeah, I had some scarring...the scene when the guy shifted into a yeti and then his g/f climbs naked onto his back and they go body sleding down a snow covered mountian side?

I..."

Misery loves company. :0)

[Traci]

MrsJoseph wrote: "Yeah, I had some scarring...the scene when the guy shifted into a yeti and then his g/f climbs naked onto his back and they go body sleding down a snow covered mountian side?

I couldn't wear whi..."

Okay. This is one of the funniest things I've heard. Thanks for the laugh. =) But I am curious. What was the book?

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Oh, jeez. I tried to burn the memory out of my head. The tree shifter was something like “big, blooming, and wild” and the yeti shifter (I’ve only read 1 but I heard there are others…)

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

MrsJoseph wrote: "Misery loves company. :0) "

And then there was foot breaking.

[Traci]

MrsJoseph wrote: "Oh, jeez. I tried to burn the memory out of my head. The tree shifter was something like “big, blooming, and wild” and the yeti shifter (I’ve only read 1 but I heard there are others…)"

I googled. The yeti book might be written by Celia Kyle. This might be the perfect gift for my aunt who watches anything about hunting for bigfoot. *evil laugh*.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

O. M. G. There are so many of them!! AND she's the one who wrote at least one tree shifter book *ick, ick gross*


I don't think any of these is the one I was talking about but still...

[Mike (the Paladin)]

See...PNR (shakes head and then shudders). That could give a whole new meaning to .... "treehugger".

[Mark]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "See...PNR (shakes head and then shudders). That could give a whole new meaning to .... "treehugger"."

And there again we have the romance suggestion...

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "See...PNR (shakes head and then shudders). That could give a whole new meaning to .... "treehugger"."

LOL!!!!

It's waaay creepier than you think. It should go under "horror." There was this one scene in one book were the hero/heroine were in a cabin in the "woods" - which all happened to be other tree shifters. *shudder* The trees started walking (creeping??) to totally surround the cabin they were in. I got seriously creeped out and couldn't finish the book.

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

So... Ents, then?

[Mark]

Colleen ~blackrose~ wrote: "So... Ents, then?"

Yes! College Entertainment Officers are the creepiest, most terrifying creatures imaginable.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Colleen ~blackrose~ wrote: "So... Ents, then?"

No, not even. Ents are cool. These are just trees that move around (no faces) that then turn into people. In the series they are "aliens." But you never get more than that. deus ex machina

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

Before I got to the "turn into people" part I was thinking of the killer woods in Evil Dead. That woulda been way cooler than tree-aliens.

[Mark]

Colleen ~blackrose~ wrote: "Before I got to the "turn into people" part I was thinking of the killer woods in Evil Dead. That woulda been way cooler than tree-aliens."

Everything is cooler than tree-aliens...

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

You may have a point.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Mark wrote: "Colleen ~blackrose~ wrote: "Before I got to the "turn into people" part I was thinking of the killer woods in Evil Dead. That woulda been way cooler than tree-aliens."

Everything is cooler than ..."

+1

[Mike (the Paladin)]

But this could explain that whole woods walking to the walls thing in Macbeth...

[whimsicalmeerkat]

It would be a much more interesting way of explaining it at least.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Yah, I always thought that the tree camomile thing would have been pretty awkward. But witches can be so oblique who can blame the people in the fortress?

[Mark]

Reminds me of the Simpsons... "Well... whenever something like that happens just assume... a wizard did it..."

[whimsicalmeerkat]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "Yah, I always thought that the tree camomile thing would have been pretty awkward. But witches can be so oblique who can blame the people in the fortress?"

I'm assuming you meant camouflage, but this mental image cracked me up.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Let the computer correct it and didn't check back...oops. Not only was it a non sequitur, it ruined a good joke...

[Jason]

Mark wrote: "Jason wrote: "I know what you mean, Mike. I help customers sometimes when I'm at Chapters. Once there was this woman looking for the recent WoT book. She was looking for it on the shelves with a Ch..."

I don't know about libraries, but I think with bookstores, it's a lot like Mike said. They hire a lot of people who don't know what they're doing.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

I have helped people find books also (mostly at Books-A-Million). But I also tend to end up just talking with people in the science fiction/fantasy isles at book stores anyway... I know I talk to strangers.

[Scott]

I have been known to move The Eyes of the Dragon to the fantasy section when no one is looking.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Probably won't help if the inventory is computerized...other than the bookstore personnel looking on the computer and seeing they should have an unsold copy, but don't know where to find it... Like I said, minimum wage...illiterate...if it's not where the computer says it was shelved, thinking about where else it may be shelved is probably beyond most (though hopefully not all) the store folks.

(maybe I should say "unread" instead of "Illiterate"?

[Traci]

My pet peeve in book stores are people coming in without looking anywhere first and asking an employee where a book is. Like they don't know their alphabet.

[Mark]

Traci wrote: "My pet peeve in book stores are people coming in without looking anywhere first and asking an employee where a book is. Like they don't know their alphabet."

Yeah, what is that... in the library I had signs on the ends of all the non-fiction shelves and I still had people asking which shelf things were on... you're in a library... I assume you can read.

[Bill]

Horror was IMO ruined by PNR which to my mind is not horror at all. One of the 1st books I acquired, a freebie for joining the SFBC back in the '50s when I was 11 or so. It is still in print, I think: Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural, a giant Modern Library collection of short stories by great writers many which caused me to remain awake at nite shivering under the covers. Some stories I still remember, The Dunwich Horror, Rats in the Walls, The Damned Thing, The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar...

More recently I joined the group Literary Horror which has opened up an entire new genre for me different from classical horror and certainly much, much more interesting than vampires, werewolves or walking dead. An archetypal example is the superb Willy

[Mike (the Paladin)]

That's the trouble with any retail job, no one can make a living at it. My son took a job at Michael's (Arts and Crafts) when he was in college and kept getting promoted. He finally left school and has managed the store for years (of course he traveled from store to store for years working his way up). Retail is rough.

[Bill]

My, my so much cynicism. As a buyer at B&N (before Amazon) I was largely outraged by how poorly they were organized for the reader. I even had to push some dork away from their computer so I could find what I was asking about in a reasonable amount of time.

[Mark]

I was in a bookstore early this morning and saw the staff musing over an entire section of just PNR and musing that it was about time that they had a proper 'Fantasy' section... I wanted to pimp slap them.

[🥀 Rose 🥀]

Tracey wrote: "Traci wrote: "My pet peeve in book stores are people coming in without looking anywhere first and asking an employee where a book is. Like they don't know their alphabet."

Oh ... I worked for Ba..."

LOL! I work in a bookstore now and all of the above is what I get on a daily basis! I totally felt like you were one of my co-workers. It's terribly difficult sometimes to not just go say "really" did you just ask me that. Best way for me to handle it is I just start talking books and what they like and what I've read and then it helps me to deal. Makes my job mor fun. But the don't know what the title is or the author and describing the covers is the most amazing thing to me. I would never do that nor would I assume a bookseller would know based on that info.

[Scott]

I once had a woman call asking for "Lolita in Teheran." I said I was sure I could get 'Reading Lolita in Teheran' for her. But she kept saying she wanted "Lolita in Teheran", not the "reader." Because it had "reading" at the beginning of the title, she thought it was some kind of guide to the book. No matter how I phrased it or described the book to her, I could not get across to her that 'Reading Lolita in Teheran' was the actual title of the book.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

I've never worked at a bookstore (self preservation, I'd spend all my money) but I have worked in clothing retail. I've noticed that the more confused or self-conscience they feel the more likely they will have an attitude. I always liked to drag customers around the store to get a feel for their likes & dislikes. Usually I could drag them into a dressing room as well...I think it helps that I'm rather talkative, though.

[Jason]

I would love to work in a bookstore or in a library. It's my dream job... But like MrsJoseph, I'd probably spend all my money. I could build my shelter from all the books I'd buy. LOL

Don't know how I'd eat, though...

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

Jason wrote: "I would love to work in a bookstore or in a library. It's my dream job... But like MrsJoseph, I'd probably spend all my money. I could build my shelter from all the books I'd buy. LOL

Don't kno..."

I haven't found a bookstore yet that I couldn't spend money in if I was there long enough, lol.

My grandma used to yell at me all the time "You can't eat that book, girl!"

[Jason]

Actually, you could eat it. I just don't think it's very nourishing for your body. LOL

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, *good karma*]

lol! True.

[Scott]

Feed your heaaaaaaaaaad

[Jason]

Feeds that, for sure!

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Didn't ever hear the old...."I but you books and buy you books and you just eat the covers."

:)

[Jason]

Oh hey, that my dog. LOL

[Bill]

Jason wrote: "Actually, you could eat it. I just don't think it's very nourishing for your body. LOL"

Feed em to your goat, milk em, make cheese & butter...

I've often dreamt of owning an independent bookstore. I doubt the timing is very good now.