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Possible Improper Deletion From Listopia
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I don't know who did it, but if each volume of the Lord of the Rings series is already on the list, doesn't that make the omnibus edition a duplicate, and thus should be deleted?
I've never heard of that being the policy. Genuine duplicates are handled automatically when you click on the link "check for duplicates."Can a "super librarian" comment on this, please? We are warned very strenuously on the deletion pages that we better be sure before we delete something.
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It's possible I'm not looking in the right place. I'm not exactly an ace librarian, (so I'm careful about what I monkey with).If deleting all but one of the various separated or combined editions of a series is the policy, the fantasy and science fiction Listopia lists are hopelessly screwed up, and a ton of votes are going to be lost if someone tries to fix them.
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I didn't say it was the policy. As far as I can recall, there's never been any discussion of it. I simply agreed that it may have been what someone was thinking, IF something was deleted. Which there is no record of, and I have no way of knowing why there is no record, or if there was a deletion.
Summary: no policy and no record.That's why I used "Possible" in my thread title. I didn't know for sure how the book was removed from the list.
Am I correct to assume that there is no way to recover the lost votes?
I wouldn't say it is 'policy' anywhere either. I was just trying to come up with a reason why it might have been deleted. When it comes down to it, the rules for each list are set by the list creator/owner.For example, I created a list that specifically states in the description that if someone nominates a series for the list, that I would only like the first book from the series. I check in on the list occasionally and delete books that don't follow that guideline.
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Unfortunately, yes.
rivka wrote: "Xenophon wrote: "Am I correct to assume that there is no way to recover the lost votes?"Unfortunately, yes."
I just ran into a similar situation that I deleted some books from a list that apparently weren't supposed to be deleted. Should we just leave it to voters to re-add the books?
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I just noticed that Dracula has disappeared from near the top of the "Best Vampire Books" list:http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/12...
If these disappearances are being caused by librarians and nothing is done to stop them, Listopia is going to be ruined. That's a shame. Once one learns to ignore the flavor-of-the-month books, it's a pretty good recommendation resource.
Note that I said "if"; I don't actually know what is going on.
There are two "Best Vampire Books" lists (too bad the system accepts duplicate names) - it's still at the top of the one that I found here: http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/17...Possible confusion between the two (rather than deletion?)
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Carolyn wrote: "There are two "Best Vampire Books" lists (too bad the system accepts duplicate names) - it's still at the top of the one that I found here: http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/17......"There are a lot books though with identical titles.
No confusion. I know which list I voted on--one is in "my lists," whereas the other isn't--and it was deleted from that list.What I fear, although I don't know enough to assert, is that some librarians have started to abuse their power. It will be bad if such a thing catches on.
I wouldn't necessarily jump to 'abuse of power' - I'd start with 'a bug in Listopia' - starting with the problem with the change tracking logs for the lists. If you haven't yet, you might want to start a thread for this in the Bugs section of the Feedback group. = )
A bug seems more likely, esp. given the fact that there have been quite a few in the last couple of weeks.Also, seems to me that most people (including librarians) have more to do than randomly sabotauge (sp) Listopia.
It's not a bad idea, in the absence of a change log, to leave a comment on the Listopia if you're a librarian deleting something. I almost always do that and I know some other librarians who do as well.
If you haven't yet, you might want to start a thread for this in the Bugs section of the Feedback group.Already did it.
Also, seems to me that most people (including librarians) have more to do than randomly sabotauge (sp) Listopia. One would hope. On the other hand, Twilight and Harry Potter fans appear to be unusually fervent.
It appears that book deletions aren't recorded in the Librarian change log, and I can see no other way to see who did it, assuming someone did do it.