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I feel like it'd be hard to have a friend who feels that a major part of me is "wrong" and "..."
I think she's just being a like, adult about it and recognizing that while she doesn't totally approve she is willing to let people do what they want. She's said several times that she doesn't care if gay marriage is legal or not.
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Hey, now. Just because atheists don't have a religion doesn't mean they're without morals. At all
And atheism isn't a belief... it's the lack of any beliefs.
I've never met an Atheist who is like "I can do what I like and not have morals." And Atheism is not a religoin. It's a lack of religion. Atheists have morals too. Really, I feel like you should get more credit for being a good Atheist than a good Christian, because people are Good Christians so they go to Heaven and Atheists don't have any such incentive. = )
Picture wrote: "Person One: What? This is quite appalling! How dare you even ask that to me? I'm Christian. That is a no. "Just as a side note, being gay and being Christian are not at all mutually exclusive.
Oh and about atheists, atheism almost seems like a religion with the way some atheists act like, "The whole I-can-do-anything-I-want-and-not-have-morals thing."
I'm not following your train of thought here. Not trying to argue, I just literally don't understand what you mean.
Well in a lot of ways, it started out as a religious debate. Nobody yet has used a non-religious means of backing an anti-gay-marriage platform.
Juliet wrote: "Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "Amy wrote: "Wait, so you're all for gay friends, you just don't think being gay is right? That does'nt make sense. I feel like it'd be hard t..."
It was my way of saying I don't know what my religion says. :P
Acacia wrote: "Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "*shrugs* Ask my grandpa. He just got his doctor degree in preaching."
I don't think she wanted to know how the Bible feels on the subject - I ..."
Oh, in that case... I don't know how to word it. I don't want to offend anyone, but I guess it wouldn't be near as "wrong".
Picture wrote: "Person One: It's against my religion.
Person Two: Are you gay then?
Person One: What? This is quite appalling! How dare you even ask that to me? I'm Christian. That is a no.
Person Two: Then, why..."
No, it's not that. We want to get as many people as possible to hear the Gospel and get them to heaven. A lot of Christians aren't that Christian-ly and don't try, though.
Baxter wrote: "Amy wrote: "Wait, so you're all for gay friends, you just don't think being gay is right? That does'nt make sense.
I feel like it'd be hard to have a friend who feels that a major part of me is "..."
Thank you, Baxter. That's what I was saying.
Emily, my thoughts towards you are pretty much the same as my thoughts towards Lav. I'm actually really (pleasantly) surprised by how many people are in support of gay marriage even though they don't personally believe it's 'right'.
Amy wrote: "I've never met an Atheist who is like "I can do what I like and not have morals." And Atheism is not a religoin. It's a lack of religion. Atheists have morals too. Really, I feel like you should ..."
Actually, being a good Christian shouldn't be about getting to Heaven. It should be about spreading God's love and word around and reuniting with him for all eternity.
But we're getting too religious here.
New debate, anyone?
Juliet wrote: ""Oh and about atheists, atheism almost seems like a religion with the way some atheists act like, "The whole I-can-do-anything-I-want-and-not-have-morals thing." That annoys me a lot because atheis..."I said some atheists. There are some very annoying ones out there.
Hmm...true. I was just trying to associate it as with Polytheism or something like that.
Sure, got a new subject you wanna debate?
Acacia wrote: "Sure, got a new subject you wanna debate?"Not really. I just don't like the direction this is heading.
Acacia wrote: "Picture wrote: "Person One: What? This is quite appalling! How dare you even ask that to me? I'm Christian. That is a no. "Just as a side note, being gay and being Christian are not at all mutua..."
*slaps head* I don't understand what I said either. This is why I don't debate because I always end up no matter what the debate is with the "Overpopulation" approach even when the "Overpopulation" approach is different from what I'm debating for. Debating+Picture= Outrageous Failure
I think it's just me. But I'm all for different cultures and religions and accepting. I like the world with multiple cultures and stuff. So I'm always the type of person who's like, "Just mind your own business. Unless murder is being committed, I think you're fine with minding your own business."
Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "Acacia wrote: "Sure, got a new subject you wanna debate?"Not really. I just don't like the direction this is heading."
If it becomes clearly antagonistic (and you can let me know if you feel that way) I'll try to put a stop to it as soon as possible. That's what mods are for.
Acacia wrote: "Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "Acacia wrote: "Sure, got a new subject you wanna debate?"Not really. I just don't like the direction this is heading."
If it becomes clearl..."
Thanks, but it's okay.
Rebekka wrote: "LET'S DEBATE LIGHTHOUSES."
YES!!!
Hmm...true. I was just trying to associate it as with Polytheism or something like that. Er... what? Why are you trying to relate lack of belief in God to belief in many gods? How does that work?
Really I don't care what your incentive is as long as you're not being a dick to people.
Rebekka wrote: "Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "Acacia wrote: "Emily the Zepik [Like anyone actually cares.] wrote: "Acacia wrote: "Sure, got a new subject you wanna debate?"Not really. ..."
Let. Us. Do. Et.
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Not really. ..."
New bill just passed saying CALIFORNIA YOU ARE AN IDIOT, VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES ARE FINE. JEEBUS. And the gaming world rejoiced.
Ban on drugs debate is always fun.
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Because it is AWESOME news. Positively AMAZING. It's like, a magical step towards people taking games seriously. How strange.
Speaking of games, I'm going to go play Sims now. Goodbye.
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YOUR FACE IS TERRIBLE.
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The thing that irritates me about the religion argument is that we ignore so much else of religions. Like, we don't exile women to the period tent anymore, and Christians don't eat..."
.... Period tent? O_o
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I dunno about that. A lot of Atheists just come off as being so ... hopeless.
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However, I think that attacking the part of Christianity that sta..."
ACACIA IS SMARTICLE.
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I'm a-okay for that, even if it makes me look like a huge hypocrite because they can't give consent, but it's the way the food chain works--we're on top. And I'd ..."
I don't really "like" animal experimentation but I'm not really against, it either. I mean, would people be happier if testing was done on humans? I think not.
RANDOM: I started writing a story once where there were a bunch of giant rats doing experiments on lab-humans! I thought it was a pretty cool idea at the time.
Haha. Brigid. A bit late there. Oh, and about all the stuff I tried to say about the previous debate. Please just disregard what I said or tried to say. I was just major loopy back then, but I've gotten something to eat. So now I'm awake. Note: Never go to the Debate discussion when you are totally out of it.
XDI must add randomly that that was my shortest play time on Sims 2 EVER.
Amy wrote: "Wait, so you're all for gay friends, you just don't think being gay is right? That does'nt make sense. I feel like it'd be hard to have a friend who feels that a major part of me is "wrong" and "..."
Meaning we don't believe in the principle, but we aren't going to go throwing rocks at gays because they're gay. I think it makes perfect sense.
Holden wrote: "Rebekka wrote: "LET'S DEBATE LIGHTHOUSES.Ooh, ooh, ooh. Violent video games and children. That's pretty non-religious, right? :D"
Oh, oops, we're done. Disregard my comments :-)"
Oh, we're done with the argument? Oh...okay. I won't say anything then. =P
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Personally, I don't see anyone here hating on anything just because they're a Christian, but I do see people hating on Christians here ALL THE TIME. Everybody has the right to their own beliefs, and even though it'd make my life if everyone loved God, I obviously can't force anything on anyone, and I wouldn't want to. But I think it's extremely rude to be telling Christians that they are ignorant because they don't believe in being gay but they don't follow some of the Jewish rituals in the Bible. I agree with Emily. You guys have so much tolerance for gay people, but where is the tolerance for Christianity?
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*is slightly less angry*
Okay, so I see a little bit of tolerance towards Christians. So I don't feel like stabbing people as much. But still.
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♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "I think the support for gays over Christianity is because being gay is not a choice. Being a Christian is. Everyone chooses their own beliefs, but you can't choose your sexuality."Yeah, that.
(I suck so much at debating in an original kind of fashion.)
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That's quite interesting. Never quite looked at it that way before. Thanks for that. I'll keep that in mind.
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(I said something that made sense. Yay!)
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Rebekka wrote: "But really, Christians have the tendency to hate on other people... or judge them. It's God's job to judge them, not you (just putting myself into that religion for this moment in time). So yeah...."Actual percentage of what?
Rebekka wrote: "wat?"He was saying he doesn't like that you imply that all Christians act like that.
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Okay, well, I hate on people. But not on specific groups of people and I don't do it based on what the believe. I just hate on people I don't like, which I'm pretty sure everyone does. (And obviously being a Christian doesn't make you perfect and I never claimed to be, so if you say something like "God doesn't want you to hate people" you can just stuff it.)
All the sources I found with a quick google search tell me about 2 billion, so. About 30%?
Rebekka wrote: "T e s n i wrote: "Rebekka wrote: "But really, Christians have the tendency to hate on other people... or judge them. It's God's job to judge them, not you (just putting myself into that religion..."Oh, right. Yeah. Sorry. I've got my head in the clouds at the moment, so.
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Shiny. 8D
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He was saying he doesn't like that you imply that all Christians act like that."
I don't think I was implying that at all. I was saying there was a tenden..."
I don't think that's true. Most Christians are reasonable and nonjudgmental.
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Person Two: Are you gay then?
Person One: What? This is quite appalling! How dare you even ask that to me? I'm Christian. That is a no.
Person Two: Then, why do you care so much about who other people want to be with? The world is a big place. I doubt you can spy on everyone. It's not your life; it's theirs.
Okay, I mean no offense to everyone about that. But I'm just trying to process my thoughts into actual words.
Life is short, people. No, that doesn't mean we can run around and be extreme adrenaline junkies. But that also doesn't me that we can hide in a corner and shake our heads at everything. The world does not thrive on ignorance or what my dad calls, "Selective mind-focus." Yeah, Dad, that's pretty much ignorance.
Oh and about atheists, atheism almost seems like a religion with the way some atheists act like, "The whole I-can-do-anything-I-want-and-not-have-morals thing." That annoys me a lot because atheism is actually not really a religion but a belief. It's like saying, "Polytheism." I consider religion to have morals and all that stuff to it.
Oh, and it always interests me how these debate topics quickly turn into religious debate things. So...hmmm