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message 1: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I'm kind of fascinated by them, the way they ripple across the country growing larger as they go west.

Also, did you know that in Canada they are a mix of letters and numbers? Are they still called zip codes up there, Barb?


message 2: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I like that you think of them as growing larger. I see them as numerical patterns. Like all of the 212s are Baltimore City.

They're called postal codes in Canada, and they're specific enough to tell the sorter an exact street and I think even the side of the street.


message 3: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments Did RA put you up to posting this thread, Sally? Maybe we should all just post the Google maps of our homes, sheesh!


message 4: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Postal, as in going postal.


message 5: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments When I fill in fake info for an online registration, I always use 90210 for my zip code.


message 6: by Félix (last edited Dec 10, 2010 12:53PM) (new)

Félix (habitseven) Carol, don't you know you're throwing off the whole Hollywood demographic for marketers everywhere.


message 7: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Two of you! Have you no social conscience?


message 8: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments I put my age as 101

*sticks out tongue at marketers*


message 9: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments postcode in dutch.


message 10: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Carol wrote: "I put my age as 101

*sticks out tongue at marketers*"



::throws up hands::


message 11: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) janine wrote: "postcode in dutch."

posthole in ground.


message 12: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments 53074, baby!

I want to hear what Petra thinks of this conversation.


message 13: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Did you know that only Streets run east and west and Avenues run north and south? And that even numbered houses are on the north and east side of the street while odd numbered houses are on the south and west?


message 14: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) fascinating! ;)


message 15: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Petra! To you it is old news but I thought it was cool.


message 16: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24816 comments Mod
No, odd numbered houses are on the east side of the street. The Streets/Avenues thing may apply to strict grids, but I can think of two cities where diagonals overlie grids and avenues intersect. In Chicago and D.C. many avenues run on diagonals.


message 17: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Like Lincoln and elston, right, LG?


message 18: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) no, it is very interesting. the plus four digits allow the optical scanner to sort letters to the exact sequence the carrier will deliver the mail. I wish everyone could take a tour of the processing plant or a local station to see what happens behind the scenes. If they did, there would probably be fewer complaints about the rates. Maybe the PO could charge a nominal fee for these hypothetical tours to bump up revenue... someone could pretend to have a melt down like on Seinfeld.


message 19: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
The SEQUENCE the carrier delivers it? So my neighbor Chris has a higher/lower digit tack on than I do?


message 20: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24816 comments Mod
RandomAnthony wrote: "Like Lincoln and elston, right, LG?"

Yes, they both run northwest/southeast.


message 21: by ms.petra (last edited Dec 10, 2010 11:01PM) (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) yup!


message 22: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "No, odd numbered houses are on the east side of the street. The Streets/Avenues thing may apply to strict grids, but I can think of two cities where diagonals overlie grids and avenues intersect. ..."

In the older areas of Manhattan, which were laid out before there was a grid these rules also get bent a bit. For instance, there are sections of Houston Street that run parallel to 6th Avenue, both aligned, more or less, north-south at that point


message 23: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) downtown Denver is set on a diagonal to the traditional grid...what were they thinking!


message 24: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24816 comments Mod
Actually in D.C., on the original grid, Streets run north-south and Avenues run east-west (Constitution, Independence). Then overtop that you have the diagonal avenues (Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New York, Florida etc.). Then beyond the original grid you have Roads like Reservoir, Foxhall, River.


message 25: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) Sally, a quick and dirty on zip codes.
Te first number 0-9 designates a region of the country from east to west. 8 is Rocky Mountain Region. The next two numbers designate a major city or an area within that region. 02 is Denver and 05 is Ft. Collins. The next two numbers designate the specific post office your address is assigned to, ie.25. The plus four actually will narrow it down to a specific block or delivery unit such as an apartment complex or an office building. Also certain government agencies such as the CO Dept of Health, DMV, etc. have a unique +4 that streams the mail to that carrier and route more efficiently. I oversimplified when I said each address has its own +4. Once the mail is sorted to a certain route, then there is a program that sequences most of the letter mail according to information input by the carrier into the address management system specifically for that route. I have a route book and I have to maintain information for vacancies, forwards, tear downs, etc. for my route. It really is a quite complex system and really very efficient considering the number of pieces of mail handled per day. For instance, on a Monday I typically deliver between 2500 and 3000 letters, probably half that in flats (magazines, newspapers, etc), and anywhere from 25 - 40 packages. My route is 26 blocks and I probably walk 8+ miles per day covering my area. The volume varies from day to day, Monday is usually the heaviest day. I have about 350 customers. My route is a high volume route and is all walking, so all those factors are input in the computer and they tell me how much time I have to complete my work for the day. Some apartment routes can have upwards of 1500 deliveries. They trade not walking for a higher number of deliveries. I could go on and on, but I won't. Basically, everything is calculated and timed and carriers are held accountable for a certain amount of work in a certain amount of time based on volume, # of deliveries, type of route.


message 26: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think your job is the coolest. You get to walk 8 miles a day in beautiful Colorado weather. :D
Thanks for the zip info!

Now, how come when I get the shebangs they all have a big 12 inked onto them?


message 27: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) I don't know, unless it is some sort of inspection mark.


message 28: by Pat (new)

Pat (patb37) Carol wrote: "When I fill in fake info for an online registration, I always use 90210 for my zip code."

Most places that collect addresses or zip codes have software verifies addresses. If anyone gives a phony address it gets thrown out. I doubt it is messing up anyone's data.


message 29: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Pat wrote: "Most places that collect addresses or zip codes have software verifies addresses. If anyone gives a phony address it gets thrown out. I doubt it is messing up anyone's data."

::makes raspberry sound::



message 30: by Sally, la reina (last edited Dec 11, 2010 08:54AM) (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Didn't they line things up with Cheery Creek the Platte River?


message 31: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) I learn something new every day!


message 32: by Carol (new)

Carol | 1678 comments We definitely have Streets that intersect, very few avenues around here. Also, I'm on the west with an odd number and the parallel road had odd on the east side.


message 33: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments I love Chicago's grids. But we had a chance to start over with the fire and all that.


message 34: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Petra, does this happen often?

Naked postal worker takes customer service to nude level

http://www.whitefishbaynow.com/news/1...


message 35: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments we've already discussed this, RA. i think it was in the news of the day thread.


message 36: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Oh, crap. See what happens when I'm busy? I miss all the good conversations. Thanks, Janine...:)


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