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message 1: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
As you probably know, I love a possessive/jealous hero. But, for some reason, I can't stand when the hero is just dog in the manger possessive in that, he doesn't want the heroine, but he doesn't want anyone else to have her. I think it's because the first type signifies a strong bond/feelings towards/for the heroine, whereas the second type is just an emotion that has nothing to do with the heroine in particular, but more out of entitlement.

What do you think about the difference?

How do you feel about possessive heroes?


message 2: by Pamela(AllHoney), Danger Zone (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 1706 comments Mod
Yes, I love the possessive hero but I agree about the dog in the manger. I can't stand it when he won't commit and then won't allow anyone else to touch or even look.

I love it when they do that growl "MINE!" and then shows just how much "mine" they are.


message 3: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
I love that too, Pamela.


message 4: by ~Megan~ (new)

~Megan~ (megadee) | 1084 comments Mod
Oooh me too!

I hate commitment issues from both the hero and the heroine. I can't stand it when the heroine is all too tough to deal with her feelings. It bothers me just as much as when the heroes do it.


message 5: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
I hate commitment issues too. Although I don't mind if the hero is a jerk and the heroine won't let him get any play. It's a cheap thrill for me as a reader.


message 6: by Debbie (new)

Debbie (halfpint66) | 272 comments I love the possessive alpha hero. I never believe the "I don't want her, but don't want anyone else to have her either" attitude. He always wants her no matter what. He just uses the attitude to cover up the truth, and that is he doesn't believe he can have her or even deserve her.


message 7: by Bekah (new)

Bekah (bekah317) | 93 comments I love a possessive hero!!! But he needs to be loving, it has to come from a genuine place of love.


message 8: by Tammy (last edited Dec 03, 2010 09:25PM) (new)

Tammy Walton Grant (tamgrant) Debbie wrote: "I love the possessive alpha hero. I never believe the "I don't want her, but don't want anyone else to have her either" attitude. He always wants her no matter what. He just uses the attitude to co..."

Well said, Debbie!

And it's because he's such an alpha that he can't admit how much he DOES want her - which is why he doesn't want anyone else to have her!


message 9: by Debbie (new)

Debbie (halfpint66) | 272 comments You finished what I should have said Tammy. LOL!


message 10: by Tammy (new)

Tammy Walton Grant (tamgrant) Great minds think alike, wouldn't you say? LOL.


message 11: by Debbie (new)

Debbie (halfpint66) | 272 comments Yep! I agree. LOL!


message 12: by Zee (new)

Zee Monodee (zee_monodee) | 688 comments I really like the possessive hero! Love how he goes 'mine'!

But the one who goes, I don't want her but no one else won't have her, doesn't qualify as hero for me. That's just too petty a thought.


message 13: by JC (new)

JC (ainathiel) the word possessive gets my feminist hackles up. I don't like it. Concern hero could be a better term.
As for the dog in the manger type, it can be a great character flaw, if written properly. Many people never want to own up to what they are actually feeling. Especially if it goes against what they are trying to achieve. In their minds the dog has already placed the heroine in a can't touch box. However the heroine is still irresistible or precious, therefore a temptation to powerful to overcome.


message 14: by Wan (new)

Wan (wanwaddell) | 252 comments Tammy wrote: "Debbie wrote: "I love the possessive alpha hero. I never believe the "I don't want her, but don't want anyone else to have her either" attitude. He always wants her no matter what. He just uses the..."

EXACTLY! When his gut feeling says "Mine" but he's too stubborn to admit and surrender to the feeling. I think, that's when the "no one can have her" comes to play. He's buying time while he's sorting out his true feeling. And mostly, found himeself in-love with her already.


message 15: by Debbie (new)

Debbie (halfpint66) | 272 comments EXACTLY! Wan. LOL!


message 16: by Othena (new)

Othena I love a possessive hero in my reading but in RL it would drive me crazy. I need my space.
I don't like heroes that are dog in the manger. If I'm reading a book with an "oh, you want her. No. I want her now" hero and it can't be explained why he's acting that way he just comes across as whiney & a jerk to me.


message 17: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
Othena, I'm the same way. I don't care for needy, demanding relationships in RL. One guy that I almost dated was very needy and it was a real turn-off. Plus he didn't want kids and I do. I don't expect perfection in a guy, but the needy thing is way too much for me.


message 18: by Othena (new)

Othena Lady Danielle, also if a person starts out being needy that usually turns into controlling. Does that make sense??


message 19: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
Absolutely. My friend definitely had some controlling aspects to his personality. I was not surprised when he married a girl that was a good ten years younger than him and easily led.


message 20: by Tammy (new)

Tammy Walton Grant (tamgrant) "...married a girl that was a good ten years younger than him and easily led."

Hopefully only until the day she wakes up, smells the beans and dumps his insecure a**.

Sorry ladies, I'm butting in.

I think it's one thing to be controlling because you're arrogant (I'm thinking romance novels) - that can be fixed (usually only through sheer determination on the woman's part, lol). The other type of controlling, like Othena says, comes from needy. And in my experience that also means insecure. Quite a slippery slope if you step onto it.

I think that's why I have such trouble with the heroes that are too tortured -- those "I'm too damaged, you're too good for me, I must leave you" types. It smacks to me of manipulation and insecurity and I don't find either of those very attractive.


message 21: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
Tammy, you're not butting in. Your thoughts are appreciated.

I wonder if she'll stay biddable as she gets older. He did something pretty bad to her, IMHO. He went and got a vasectomy and didn't even tell her was doing it, until after the fact. I know it's his body, but I didn't agree with him doing it so dishonestly-- when she found out he was doing it, it was too late. I guess he figured that now there was no question about them not having kids.


message 22: by Tammy (new)

Tammy Walton Grant (tamgrant) What an a**hole. A friend of mine married a guy who did that, and that lie was the least of the issues she ended up having with him. Control, insecurity, you name it. She left after about 6 years, and it took 2 more to finally shake him. He STILL 'pokes' her on Facebook.


message 23: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
What a loser to stalk someone on Facebook!


message 24: by Arch (new)

Arch  | 4247 comments Mod
He's sad if he's poking her on Facebook. He needs to get a life.


message 25: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
I was thinking the same thing, Arch.


message 26: by Tammy (new)

Tammy Walton Grant (tamgrant) He's so deluded he thinks they should 'bury the hatchet' and go for coffee.

Silly man. I guess the stalking charges and restraining order didn't give him message. She just ignores him.


message 27: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Loves 'Em Lethal (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 9851 comments Mod
Yikes. He should have put that energy into being a good husband while they were married.


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