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message 101: by Kelsey (new)

Kelsey (kelspoo) | 8 comments I don't really know how it all works, but whenever the contracts expire for the company that made the movie, another company should make it- better.


message 102: by Paige (new)

Paige C I doubt it, since Eragon was so bad... If it is made into a movie, I really hope it would be better than Eragon.


message 103: by John (last edited Aug 17, 2013 08:18PM) (new)

John | 3 comments There was another part that was wrong
Brom wasnt killed while Eragon was fighting Durza (who sucks) he died when the ra'zac stabbed him he wasnt even fucking alive when Eragon fought Durza but Saphira was awesome and I want them to make another movie just to see how much it sucked.


message 104: by John (new)

John | 3 comments And I also want to see Thorn and Glaedr


message 105: by John (new)

John | 3 comments My friend watched the movie and he couldnt read the book because it was too different


message 106: by Hannah (new)

Hannah | 1 comments They did not make it as good as I thought that they would...But I did like Saphira and they can not leave it at galbatorix dragon! I would like to see them make another one even if it is bad. We all have our different opinions! And I would be ok if they never made another one ...but you have to admit that you would watch Eldest if it ever came out. I thought it was ok! :)


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Annalise  O'Connor (Annaliseoconnor) | 10 comments John wrote: "There was another part that was wrong
Brom wasnt killed while Eragon was fighting Durza (who sucks) he died when the ra'zac stabbed him he wasnt even fucking alive when Eragon fought Durza but Saph..."

YES i knowwwwwww. one of the reasons i enjoy the movie so much is because it sucks just so badly


message 108: by Annalise (new)

Annalise  O'Connor (Annaliseoconnor) | 10 comments Harpoon wrote: "then new eragon movie. like the way the revive batman and spiderman movies."

yes!


message 109: by Heart-of-books (new)

Heart-of-books | 9 comments Stephanie wrote: "Yeah, I'd rather them do a reboot with Eragon before attempting Eldest."

Agreed. I don't trust the same people who made the first movie NEARLY enough to want them to make a second one!


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Heart-of-books | 9 comments Stephanie wrote: "I'd rather them only keep Brom maybe Arya. But she'd have to act more standoffish."

I know right! She practically kissed him in the FIRST movie! They never kissed ONCE! IN THE WHOLE SERIES!!!


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Heart-of-books | 9 comments Marx wrote: "They would need a NEW cast. One in which CAN act.. AND one in which follows the description of the characters in the book. Just thinking about the movie Eragon makes me want to puke. *shudders*"

Are we twins? lol. :s


message 112: by Heart-of-books (last edited Nov 17, 2013 12:22AM) (new)

Heart-of-books | 9 comments Saphira1963 wrote: "I heard a rumor about it but if the same director does eldest like he did eragon It will be a major bomb."

The directors and producers of "Eragon" would have to be complete IDIOTS to make another movie. Be it a remade "Eargon" OR "Eldest". What actor in their right mind would sign up with those movie bomb makers???


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Heart-of-books | 9 comments Emelie wrote: "First of all; I'll strangle any producer behind the Eragon-movie BEFORE he gets a chance to do an Eldest-movie adaption.
Second; no, I don't think (and I don't hope) it's going to be a second movi..."


What else can I say? You covered it all. TERRIBLE movie. :C


message 114: by Heart-of-books (last edited Nov 17, 2013 12:22AM) (new)

Heart-of-books | 9 comments Does anyone else think Eragon in the movie looks WAY too much like Cody Simpson?


message 115: by Heart-of-books (last edited Nov 17, 2013 12:27AM) (new)

Heart-of-books | 9 comments I JUST watched the movie like an hour ago and I REALLY need to get some things off my chest. Here is a list of my opinions about every aspect of the movie worth mentioning:

The actors

Robert Carlyle was a great Durza although his appearance changed DRASTICALLY (he looks much paler)when he rallies the Urgals spirits in preparation for the battle against the Varden. Jeremy Irons was a A- Brom and Uncle Garrow and Ajihad were tolerable because they had such a small parts. Galbatorix, Roran, and Sloan I could take or leave. Everyone else SUCKED. Eragon has brown hair NOT blonde. Eragon is not ENGLISH! Saphira's voice is O.K. after she is older but her voice should not sound so old when she first starts talking. Saphira is NOT a bird! Her wings should not have FEATHERS!!! Arya looks WAY too sweet. She should have straight or maybe wavy black hair not red CURLS! Arya is NOT supposed to look like a red haired Taylor Swift. Garrett Hedlund looks all wrong for Murtagh. The black hair and it's length looks right but his hairstyle bothered me so much I couldn't stand it! It was just SO annoying how Murtagh's hair would NOT stop falling into his eyes. The scar is on his chest. What's up with that? Not only did they make his scar a jagged horizontal line instead of the shoulder to hip diagonal scar it was supposed to be, they didn't even put it on the right side of him! Why I dislike Nasuada is a little bit tricky too explain. Since it is only the first movie it shouldn't make a big difference. However, because I have read the whole inheritance Cycle I can't help but think that Caroline Chikezie does not look strong enough to endure the torture she does in the last book of the series, Inheritance. Joss Stone was exactly the OPPOSITE of what I pictured to be Anegela. She is MUCH too young and Angela is depicted in the books to be a mysterious but HOMELY looking woman, maybe in her forties (looks only of course). Not as a gypsy. Gary Lewis is listed as playing Hrothgar, leader of the dwarves but I did not see or hear tell of him ANYWHERE in the movie.

Saphira

They should have let Saphira grow up more slowly. That "magical" transformation in the clouds is miles away from her REAL age process.

The Ra'zac killing Garrow

Saphira took Eragon away from the farm for a whole DAY. Not just five minutes. It makes no sense to say the Ra'zac did THAT much damage in five minutes.

Eragon's reason for leaving Carvahall

Brom does not randomly show up right as Eragon finds out Garrow is dead (mortally wounded but still alive in the book). Eragon decides to chase the Ra'zac to avenge his Uncle, the only family besides Roran he has. The movie makes it seem like Garrow is just a guardian to Eragon but Garrow is actually like a father to him. Eragon must steal horses from one of the villagers as Saphira is not strong enough to fly with his weight unless it is desperate (like when she knew the Ra'zac were going to hurt Eargon). In doing so, Brom sees him and tells Eragon he is coming.


message 116: by Heart-of-books (last edited Nov 17, 2013 12:33AM) (new)

Heart-of-books | 9 comments Continuing on:

Eragon's fortune

In the movie Angela tells him a woman in his dreams is a big part of his past and his future when she is supposed to tell him simply that he will fall in love with one of nobility. More importantly though, she does not tell him that he is destined to leave Alagaesia and never return. Solembum, Angela's werecat is completely missing from the movie. Not only was this a mistake in the short-term, as Angela only offers to read Eragon's fortune because Solembum talks to him (Werecats rarely talk to people) but it is a MAJOR mistake in the long-term because Solembum tells him " When the time comes and you need a weapon, look under the roots of the Menoa tree. Then, when all seems lost and your power is insufficient, go to the rock of Kuthian and speak your name to open the vault of souls" and this affects the whole outcome of the series! As a side note Angela fails to mention that she has only told the TRUE fortunes (with real dragon knuckles) of two other people ever. One of them being Selena who is Eragon's mother.

Urgals

The Urgals did not have HORNS!

Arya

I know I already mentioned she is too sweet in the movie but there is more wrong with her character than that. She does not wear any dresses... ever. She is not forced by Durza to contact Eragon and plea for help. Eragon dreams of her; and not dancing about or looking at him sweetly either. He dreams of her as she is when he sleeps, always imprisoned sometimes unconscious, sometimes staring into the darkness, and one time with her knees pulled up against her chest one hand draped over a knee dripping blood slowly (this part is described so elaborately because it is one thing I wish they had put in the movie). It is not revealed HOW Eragon dreams of Arya until the fourth book but we do find out in "Eragon" that she only felt his presence when he dreamed of her and that she did not realize who he was. Of course one of the obvious things that disgruntled fans of Eragon about Arya was the fact that she was completely human-looking. The producers and director did not even try to make her look an elf. That alone would have ruined Arya even if everything else about her was right because people would not understand why she is the way she is. Her whole attitude (in he book and the way it should have been in the movie) would be explained if they put more emphasis on her being an ELF. Arya looks like a weakling in the movie. They should have expressed her as stronger than Eragon because it makes SENSE. She is 100 years old and elves are MUCH more enhanced at speed and strength than humans. Right before the battle at Farthen Dur they could have made Eragon say something like: Will you be okay out there? Then Arya could have said: Humans underestimate women. Besides I have had years of experience with a sword and elves have the added advantage of enhanced speed and strength. (Shoots Eragon an amused look) Yes I'll be fine. That would have been great.

Jeod

Jeod is an old friend of Brom's who helped him steal Saphira's egg from Galbatorix 20 years ago. He helps Eragon and Brom find the Ra'zac after they lose track of them. In book four Jeod gives Eragon a book that will led him to the "Rock of Kuthian".

Missing characters

Orik and Katrina are missing from the movies despite their importance in the books.


Brom's Death

Brom does not kill either of the Ra'zac. In fact, Eragon and Brom are CAPTURED by them. They both fall unconscious (or at least Eragon does) and when Eragon awakens he and Brom are sitting in the dirt in a small tepee type thing and they are their hands are tied to a wooden pole. The manage to get free of their bindings but as they are leaving one of the Ra'zac try to throw a knife at Eragon and Brom jumps in front of him. Which leaves Brom with a knife in his side, a fatal wound. Eragon tries to defend Brom and himself but can not hold them off. Murtagh comes out of nowhere and with Eragon's help they eventually force the Ra'zac to flee, as much skill as it is luck. Later, after Eragon and Murtagh have set up camp Brom reveals to Eragon he was a dragon rider too and his dragons name was also Saphira. Brom tells Eragon the Varden is the only safe place for him. He then gives Eragon his sword, Za'roc and dies. And so Brom to is killed due to the Ra'zac. He is not killed by Durza!

The rescue

*By the time of Brom's death Eragon has had so many dreams about Arya he can no longer deny she is a figment of his imagination. He decides to find and rescue her. After asking Murtagh, Eragon discovers the largest and cruelest prison in the Empire is in Gil'ead and Eragon is sure the strange elf he dreams of is there. He and Murtagh go to Gil'ead and despite her reluctance Eragon insists Saphira stay out of sight of the city. As he wants to save the elf quietly and without a fight. Instead Murtagh barely escapes the city and Eragon is caught by Durza. After eating and drinking the food and water the jailers give him, Eragon realizes they are poisoning him in an attempt to make him to weak to try and escape. he starves and thirsts himself for days tricking the jailers by throwing the bread and pouring the water out the small barred window that reveals the feet of people walking by on the streets of Gil'ead. Despite that lack of bindings and poison in his body Eragon only manages to find an escape route after half a week. However, the plan will have a better chance of working if their is a diversion in the prison so eragon decides to wait and hope. As luck would have it, a very large diversion arrives shortly after Eragon forms his plan and he manages to get out of his jail cell. He finds Murtagh outside his door and no soldiers keeping watch. Reckless as it is Eragon refuses to leave without the elf and so Murtagh follows him. They find the elf's cell only a little way's off. She is unconscious and so Eragon must carry her. They are almost free of the prison when they come across Durza. Eragon tells Murtagh to call for Saphira as he tries to fend off Durza. Durza has Eragon on the ground in no time and Eragon believes he is about to die. Murtagh shoots an arrow right into Durza's head and he vanishes. Eragon and Murtagh believe Durza is dead. Saphira tears a whole in the ceiling and carries the three of them to safety.

Eargon and Murtagh's relationship

In the long trek to Gil'ead, Eragon gains experience in magic. He also finds that he and Murtagh are perfect sparing (fighting with swords)partners as they practice each day. With the trials of the journey Eragon and Murtagh get to know quite a bit about each other and become good friends. They are not the strangers the movie portrays them to be.

Eragon and Arya

After rescuing the elf they all try to awaken her without success. Eragon becomes increasingly worried about her as they camp in safety away from Gil'ead wondering what to do next. She cannot eat or drink while unconscious and he does not know when she last ate or drank. He eventually decides to reach out and touch her mind. AS he comes close to her mind she throws up all measures of defense not knowing he is trying to help her. After a desperate plea to listen to him the elf warily lets him in and he tells her everything she needs to know at the moment including the fact that he is a dragon rider and he saved her from Durza. He asks her why she is unconscious and she tells him of the horrors Durza put her through while she was imprisoned trying to force her to tell him where she sent the egg. She also informs him that Durza recently started giving her poison every morning and the cure every night. Being late afternoon when they rescued her she did not receive the cure and so she is still poisoned. The only other cure in existence is with the Varden. She then shows Eragon through her past experiences the exact location of the Varden, as Eragon only knew the Varden were hidden somewhere in the Beor mountains. He must travel there, she says, in no more than four days if she is to live. Eragon and Saphira decide to go and Murtagh reluctantly tags along.*

Journey to the Varden

The four of them rush towards the Varden and shortly after discover a group of one hundred or more Kull not only keeping up far behind them but slowly gaining on them. They speed towards their only hope of safety now more than ever. They reach the Varden just as the Kull behind them catch up and are only let into the Varden because Eragon would have drown in the waterfall that hid the Varden's door had Orik, the Dwarven King's foster son not disobeyed orders and saved all four of them. They stay for days before the battle comes. With Arya and Saphiras help Eragon is barely able to kill Durza. He is left with a crippling scar after the battle and realizes just how badly he needs the training the Varden told him of. So the book concluded and so should have the movie.

Between the astricks (*) "The Rescue" and "Eragon and Arya" basically none of that happened in the movie. Ridiculous to exclude/remake such huge important parts of the book, right?


In short, if you have read the books, DO NOT and I mean DO NOT WATCH THE MOVIE!!!!! I sincerely hope I have gotten through to you as I have but few characters left. And that is after cutting things out.

P.S. I don't think anyone could hate this movie more than I do, except perhaps Christopher Paolini himself!



message 117: by Weston (new)

Weston | 6 comments Oh I would bet u money I hate it more I was almost kicked out of the theater cuz I was almost yelling but I just walked out ten minutes later cause I was just done with his work being insulted


message 118: by Laura (new)

Laura | 1 comments No, I don't think they will because of the Eragon movie. It wasn't that great and it was done a long time ago.

I wish they would just redo the Eragon movie! It doesn't live up to the book and they could make it so much better nowadays. I saw The Hobbit and they did a really good job with the dragon and scenery. Ugh its such a waste..


message 119: by Hanna (new)

Hanna Brewer (hanna_b) | 1 comments I think you guys are forgetting about the death of the main protagonist in the movie vs. the book. The main reason they WOULD NOT be able to make a second movie without redoing the first is because they KILL OFF the razaac!!! which means there is no bad guy in the second or third to deal with. And since durza was killed, they would have to introduce an entirely new shade in order to create more razaac, and then have them actually look and talk like they are supposed to!!


message 120: by Kawaii (new)

Kawaii (KawaiiGamerboy) I have read the book, but never watched the movie... Would you recommend me to watch it? It sounds like it is a suck-ish movie....


message 121: by Weston (new)

Weston | 6 comments Don't watch the movie it is an abomination and insult to Christopher's work.


message 122: by Kawaii (new)

Kawaii (KawaiiGamerboy) Aye, alright thank ye.


message 123: by Weston (new)

Weston | 6 comments no problem lol


message 124: by Weston (new)

Weston | 6 comments RAGE RAVE ALERT but anyway okay so in the book it says has brown hair and my brown eyes I think I don't remember and in the movie he has blond hair and blue eyes and Ariana also she has blond hair and brown eyes instead of the black eyes and midnight bluish blackish color hair and it also just doesn't stay true to the book


message 125: by Kerrin (new)

Kerrin  Mountcastle (MusicalBookworm) | 7 comments They can't! They completely ruined the first book so they can't even continue. I did not like the movie because everything was messed up.


message 126: by Joy (new)

Joy (warriormaiden) | 2 comments Even if they wanted to, they couldn't. They screwed up Eragon so much that magic would need to be involved to even start thinking about how they would be even close to pulling off a second movie!


message 127: by Kerrin (new)

Kerrin  Mountcastle (MusicalBookworm) | 7 comments Exactly what I just said....


message 128: by Dakota (new)

Dakota Soderlund | 3 comments I don't think so, not after the job they did with eragon


message 129: by Kerrin (new)

Kerrin  Mountcastle (MusicalBookworm) | 7 comments Once again; EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID!!!


message 130: by Joy (new)

Joy (warriormaiden) | 2 comments Note to kerrin. Some people don't read all of the comments before they post. All your doing is thinking along the same lines


message 131: by Pete (new)

Pete (jaggededge03) | 4 comments Relax Kerrin... everyone here is just adding their voice to their displeasure with the movie. No one got bent out of shape when you restated the same thing that was said in the previous 145 comments. Everyone is allowed to say what they think of the movie good, bad or otherwise.

It has been a really long time since I have watched the movie so I cant remember a lot of details. I do remember wishing they would have spent more time on it and put more effort into making it track with the book. Unfortunately I may have to rewatch this movie and according to you all, it is going to be a rough one to stomach.


message 132: by Dakota (new)

Dakota Soderlund | 3 comments Ya I don't think it was an overall terrible movie. Just if they stuck with the book a lot more. I haven't seen it in a while either and I'm afraid to watch it sense I jus recently finished the book again


message 133: by Kerrin (new)

Kerrin  Mountcastle (MusicalBookworm) | 7 comments I was just joking Pete. And yes, the movie is terrible! Just saying.


message 134: by Pete (new)

Pete (jaggededge03) | 4 comments Just to be clear Kerrin, I meant no offense to you. I just wanted anyone who would come upon this thread to be feel as they voice their dislike or like of the movie freely. I am with you that they did a terrible job of following the book. I want to go back and see if the essence of the story is there.

Maybe the making of the movie was done a few years too early or just that it wasnt given the budget needed. I dont know if it is worth holding out hope that one day they remake it and it is done right.


message 135: by Jordan (new)

Jordan Reece | 4 comments Even if it wasn't a book representation, the movie would still be one of the worst I've seen. They would basically need to remake Eragon with more funding to continue the films imo. Just isn't going to happen.


message 136: by Matthew (new)

Matthew | 5 comments After spending half an hour reading all these, there is one thing I must say- kill the producers.


message 137: by Megan (new)

Megan | 3 comments No freaking way in heck! If anything they should remake the Eragon movie and make it at least as amazing as the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit movies. If they managed to do that good of a job on the first one, then I would support them on making the rest of the series into movies.


message 138: by Matthew (new)

Matthew | 5 comments Thank god there is someone with some sense. Well, everyone here.


message 139: by Kate Urban (new)

Kate Urban (kateurban) | 1 comments http://www.shurtugal.com/2015/03/11/w...

Hi, I don't know if everyone has already seen this but there's a petition out to remake (yay) and continue the movie series! Please sign of you haven't already and share with anyone else who will


Amanda-I dream of a gallant southern gentleman watching the sunset | 6 comments I would hate it if they made eldest into a movie. They did bad enough with Eragon. Even Christopher Paolini himself thinks they did a bad job with the movie. (He told me so in a letter.)


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