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Question #8: No way. No how. Not now. Not ever.

Also, I refuse to read anything by Scott Westfield, or whatever his name is. The guy who wrote, "The Uglies," "The Pretties," all of that junk. I just can't stand his writing, its horrendous.
Even though I own the first four Twilight books, I was SEVERELY disappointed by Breaking Dawn (It was a cop out.) and the popularity has killed it for me. So, if she ever does publish another book in the series, I will NOT be reading it. Although, if she publishes something like "The Host" I'll give it ago because I enjoyed that book. The writing was HEAPS better than Twilight.

I also snubbed my nose at adults on this site who constantly read YA books. This year, two of the best books I've read so far are The Hunger Games & Catching Fire. Both YA books.
My advice to myself from now on is "never say never."

connie, that is so funny! i've done the same thing, especially regarding the "Twilight" series. i swore i would never read them. then i got on facebook and saw all these references to edward on the "flair" page. i have a very curious personality, so i ended up giving in and picking up twilight. i got hooked! i do plan on reading the rest of the series.
thank you for the other suggestion, i'll have to add those to my "to-read" list.
I will never read a book that is BASED ON a movie. Like today i saw "wolfman" the book and on the cover it said "based on the motion picture" not "now a major motion picture" but "based on a motion picture". Why? seriously.

Well said, Connie. I read a wide range of books, and young adult novels are one of my favorite genres. A lot of people do snub their noses at these books, but I'm always amazed at them. They can sometimes venture into things that adult books never do and they do it well--usually things more magical. I remember a while ago reading a quote from Philip Pullman of why His Dark Materials (considered children's books) were written with children characters, for children (and adults) to read. He just didn't think the story would fit written based on adult characters, and was able to take the story where he wanted to with children.
Also, we've all been young adults so we can all usually identify with the characters.

As for books that are suppose to be aimed at children and young adults I love the Skulduggery Pleasant series and I think that The Hunger Games and Catching Fire are two of the best books I have read.

Going to read another book by Stephanie Meyer!!! Yay cant wait to get it tomorrow so I can start reading.

There's big money in the book-to-movie genre. It also takes a certain amount of skill, which I guess not all authors have, but the ones who do can be very good. You are talking about two different styles of presentation...books TELL and movies SHOW. In books the motivation can be described in emotional terms, talked about with lush descriptions so the reader can understand the precise nuances of scene and character. In movies, unless it is the rare voice-over meant to convey ones inner thoughts, the motivation must be physically acted out to convey the characters' meaning.
It seems to me that it would be harder, perhaps lots harder, to capture the essence of a performance with words (preferrably succincly) so that the vision of the playwright or screenplay author is carried through without bastardizing it.

Lynsea - I really liked The Pillars of the Earth. It's a very looong book but some good action. My friend recommended it to me because it was her favorite book of all time. My mother was a big Ken Follett fan, but apparently, this book is like no other book he has written.

I'm a big fan of the Jason Bourne movies and I know the author who originally wrote the triolgy is dead, but I've seen other books out now that carry on where the movies left off. I've kind of been interested in reading them. I don't think I've ever read a book based on a movie, although I have read books that the movies were based on after having seen the movie.

Its even worse when you consider the fact that the movie wasn't even good.

oh, you HAVE to read Pillars of the Earth! That book was excellent! Great characters, a riveting story, a beautiful romance...it's a great escapism-read.

I guess a lot of people are going to comment on this one. "The Pillars of the Earth" is excellent. Don't miss it. Maybe I should say try it and it will probably grab you in the first few pages. If it doesn't..bag it.

I remember (lo- these many years ago) when 2001 came out as a movie. We then read the book in order to understand the movie. Then we watched the movie again! (and no, I didn't watch it after using LSD or any other drug that was popular then)

Also most autobiographys and memoirs, they really grate on me, I feel like reading about someone else's everyday life is a waste of my own.

Lynsea - I really liked The Pillars of the Earth. It's a very looong book but some good action. My fr..."
I have been trying to get through "Pillars of the Earth" for at least 6 months. My problem is I neither like nor hate any of the characters enough to care about them and what happens to them. The fire in the old church seemed too contrived. So I pack it away, read other books, run across it in a pile and read some more. Maybe I'll finish it before the year is out.


i L-O-V-E ann coulter...she's definitely NOT a quick read....perhaps the reason they may not appeal to you is 1)she's an EXTREME conservative and 2)she probably talks over your head. i will admit that she does use a lot of big words, but she does do her fact checking and her research. she ROCKS!





Carla, my first reaction to the phrase 'she probably talks over your head' kind of made me do a double take. First of all, you are posting on a public message board, more people than just you and the person you are addressing can read this (unless you yourself delete it). Are you assuming that everyone who reads this is a Neanderthal? (Sorry Caveman, I don't mean to be un-PC) I won't even go into what I don't like about Ann Coulter because I don't want to turn this into a free-for-all which might spiral out of control...this thread is not meant for that...but I have to say that although I had just an ever-so-slight feeling about being talked down to about the phrase above, I overlooked it pretty much, but the next post was blatantly offensive...
"no need to be haters out there...like you both (donna and harold) i was simply stating my opinion, which i believe is STILL allowed..." If your opinion is that we're a bunch of morons, then yes, your post is offensive. Most people who feel superior have the good grace to conceal it in their own minds, and don't let it leak out in ways that can harm others. Having an opinion is not harmful, but character assasination to someone's face most definitely is. You're not alone, everyone has done it at some time or another, but is that how you really want to be or be known as?


Intelligent political conversation stops when the name calling begins. At that point there is no exchange of ideas or information - just sloganeering and preconceived notions.

And thanks Lianne for bringing us back to the actual topic. I've stated previously that I would not be reading Twilight, but that I would be forever grateful to Stephanie Meyers for getting my goddaughter reading. And I know the covers are often cheesey, but there are some good reads in there. My addiction to romance started in college trying to keep my brain from burning out the semester I took bio-ethics, statistical analysis and child psych at the same time. My brain needed a break.



Ever since I read the first 20 pages of "It" (was too scared to read any further), I have been afraid of clowns and storm drains!




Harry Potter, Twilight, Lord of the Rings. Just not into them. I get that people love them. I'm just not in to fantasy.
Also not going to read James Frey..."
Yes!!! I refuse to read Twilight, Harry Potter, and the Lord of the Rings, too! Except that I add the Chronicles of Narnia into the series.

That was my general impression of romance. I felt a little guilty completely discounting the entire genre without ever taking a closer look at it though. I know that a lot of people have ..."
Mellynna and Symbol,
Yeah, there's a lot of cruddy romance out there, and even the cruddy stuff is intensely formulaic. But its worth giving it a shot. Just keep in mind that a person shouldn't go into looking for award-winning literature, just a lite, feel-good read. There actually is romance that isn't smut (I recommended christian romances for that. And is you don't like it, well, you haven't wasted too much of your time. I also recommend, the following book. It's clean and surprising intense, if not all that well written.

oh, and for Christian romance is you're interested:



And to Matthew I say "Amen". I don't enjoy reading any of the political writers either.

Harry Potter, Twilight, Lord of the Rings. Just not into them. I get that people love them. I'm just not in to fantasy.
Also not going to rea..."
Wow. I usually try to evaluate by the level of writing, not the genre that they fall into. While fantasy is not my first choice, The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings are wonderfully written and don't skew toward a teenage audience in the least (although they can appeal to such).
Harry Potter is framed as fantasy but is really a contemporary view of a fantastic world, so after book 1, I was done. I could not read Twilight. Not well written. While it is a classic love story, and there are some nicely done plot twists, I find that the movie spoiled my appetite for the book. Would someone PLEASE eat Bella already (it wouldn't take long) and move on to the more interesting characters like Rosalie and the dads?
Narnia is a classic children's book. Truly well written but more engaging when you are young.


Harry Potter - to me - is amazing in a way that no other series I've ever read was. I've never felt that way while reading a book.
Twilight - Terrible Terrible Terrible
Narnia - I agree with Laura - much more engaging when you're young or if you were super religious.
Lord of the Rings/Hobbit - I understand why Tolkien is so important to fantasy. I get why people worship his books but man that was some boring reading. Painfully boring. Shoot myself in the face boring.


I had to read this FOUR TIMES in the course of my education. How did you get out of it?




I really dislike clowns because of a bad experience I had at a friend's birthday party when I was 5. The clown was making coins appear out of kids' noses and ears and when I asked him to take something out of my ear (we were eating birthday cake at the time) he told me to go away and told the birthday girl's father that he hated kids! He was an angry clown! I've been a little nervous about them ever since( and watching the movie "Killer Klowns from Outer Space" probably didn't help either...
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I couldn't agree more. Other than that, I refuse to read bodice-ripper romances (They are simply too silly for me.) and, although I am a hug fan of science fiction and intelligent fantasy, I won't touch anything by Robert Jordan or Piers Anthony. I have had several people try to sell me on them, and I feel these two authors' books are staggeringly over-hyped, painfully derivative, and completely lack-luster.