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message 1: by Betsy (new)

Betsy (betsybb3) I'm new to Goodreads and I'm trying to enter my books (slowly, slowly...). I see that many books have more than one CD edition listed on Goodreads.

Does anyone know how to find the ISBN # on Audible? I've looked through my library and I've searched through their catalog of books, and I can't seem to find the # anywhere.


message 2: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) | 420 comments Audible does not have ISBN numbers. I usually just pick one of the CD versions as my edition in Good Reads or I add it without an ISBN. Keep in mind that new editions users add do not auto-combine, so you need to ask a librarian to combine it over in the Librarians group. Or, do what I did and become a librarian so you can combine the editions you add with the other editions.


message 3: by Stef (new)

Stef (firecat) | 43 comments Audible books have ASINs rather than ISBNs. The ASIN shows up as part of the URL. When I add an Audible book, that's what I use (the book editing page lets you swap between them). For Format I use "Audiobook." For Edition I use "Audible edition." My understanding is that this is what the Librarians group wants people to do. (It's easy to become a Goodreads librarian.)


message 4: by John, Moderator (new)

John | 3922 comments I hadn't realized about ASIN's. I've been doing as Sandi does, but suppose I might go back and add the ASIN to the few of mine that are Audible original (ISBN-less) productions.


message 5: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Ok, does anyone know if Audible can display either ASIN or ISBN numbers? I don't see them, but I am a bit "blind" (or stupid)


message 6: by John, Moderator (new)

John | 3922 comments For Audible-provided content, the best you're going to do is get an ASIN via the book's listing at the Amazon site (as the Audible edition); Audible itself does not provide such a number.


message 7: by Empress (last edited Aug 10, 2013 08:20AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments John wrote: "For Audible-provided content, the best you're going to do is get an ASIN via the book's listing at the Amazon site (as the Audible edition); Audible itself does not provide such a number."

That is where I usually get it from, but some users that are not librarians are looking at audible for the information. I guess it makes sense that they would not provide the number, since you are buying directly from the webpage.

Thank you for the quick reply John
Ellie


message 8: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) | 420 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ok, does anyone know if Audible can display either ASIN or ISBN numbers? I don't see them, but I am a bit "blind" (or stupid)"

If you're on the book page on Audible, look at the URL. For example:

http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=hp_r4b_...

You'll see that the ASIN is included in the URL. Easy, but not obvious.


message 9: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Sandi wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ok, does anyone know if Audible can display either ASIN or ISBN numbers? I don't see them, but I am a bit "blind" (or stupid)"

If you're on the book page on Audible, lo..."


FACESLAP! Thank you soooo much!


message 10: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Sandi wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ok, does anyone know if Audible can display either ASIN or ISBN numbers? I don't see them, but I am a bit "blind" (or stupid)"

If you're on the book page on Audible, lo..."


Thank you, I have not seen that either. How do you turn the ASIN into ISBN? Or is it that if it has an ASIN it does not have a ISBN?


message 11: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) | 420 comments If you are adding an edition, there is a link next to the ISBN boxes that says "Click for ASIN". Click that and enter the ASIN. Audible and Kindle books only have ASINs.


message 12: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Sandi wrote: "If you are adding an edition, there is a link next to the ISBN boxes that says "Click for ASIN". Click that and enter the ASIN. Audible and Kindle books only have ASINs."

I meant the other way around. I can get the ASIN from the Audible site, but how do I get the ISBN number.


message 13: by Empress (last edited Aug 11, 2013 06:59AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments SHORT ANSWER: You can't trough conversion - I THINK!
IT is a SEPARATE system for identification

Chrissie wrote: "Sandi wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ok, does anyone know if Audible can display either ASIN or ISBN numbers? I don't see them, but I am a bit "blind" (or stupid)"

If you're on the book page ..."


I don't know if there is a converter. ASIN's are used only by Amazon and I think they assign them, I don't think it is a matter of conversion. A book can have ASIN and ISBN number. When you search e-book by isbn on Amazon it will open the kindle edition with an ASIN displayed. But the isbn is used outside amazon for cataloging the e-books. For example BnB use numbers that start with 29xxxxxxxxxxx

so you can have for ONE book
ISBN 13: 978-xxxxxxxxxx
ASIN:        B00xxxxxxx
BNIDs:       29xxxxxxxxxxx
Google books also have a number but we do not enter it yet, I think.


You can convert from ISBN 10 to ISBN 13 here:
http://www.isbn.org/converterpub.asp
Or use a formula if you feel you have all the time in the world.

Example:
Alice's Adventures In Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass
BNID: 2940000712078)
ASIN: B0017XEQ6I
ISBN-13: 9781456307257


message 14: by Empress (last edited Aug 10, 2013 09:25AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Oh you can: http://www.asintool.com/asin-to-isbn.php

EDIT: I'm not sure if this converts or just looks up for the relative ISBN numbers online.



FROM AMAZON:


I've seen online tools and mapping methods that convert a 13-digit ISBN to a 10-digit ISBN. Can I use one of those to look up the ASIN?

No. Two groups of 13-digit ISBNs have been specified. The initial group starts with 978 and has 10-digit equivalents but the second group that starts with 979 does not. Note that the final digit of an ISBN is a calculated value (a "checksum") so even though most digits of a 13-digit ISBN that begins with 978 are the same as its 10-digit equivalent, the last digit will usually be different.

It's quite likely in the short term that the ASIN for a book with a 13-digit ISBN will be the same as the result if that 13-digit ISBN is converted to a 10-digit ISBN, but in the long term the ASIN that Amazon assigns will have to be a unique identifier because future 979 ISBNs won't have universal 10-digit equivalents. As a result, we recommend looking up ASINs directly on Amazon instead of using an ISBN conversion tool or mapping.


https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...
Bottom of page.


message 15: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Ellie, your first link in message 14 does seem to provide the ISBN number from the ASIN number. Thank you.


message 16: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Chrissie wrote: "Ellie, your first link in message 14 does seem to provide the ISBN number from the ASIN number. Thank you."

I would like to know if it works. I still don't think it is a conversion but just a tool to find the corresponding ISBN.

You are welcome :]

Glad if it helps


message 17: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Ellie, your first link in message 14 does seem to provide the ISBN number from the ASIN number. Thank you."

I would like to know if it works. I still don't think it is a conversio..."


It did not work.


message 18: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Chrissie wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Ellie, your first link in message 14 does seem to provide the ISBN number from the ASIN number. Thank you."

I would like to know if it works. I still d..."


Can you tell me for what purpose are you looking for this and we might be able to figure out something else?


message 19: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Ellie, your first link in message 14 does seem to provide the ISBN number from the ASIN number. Thank you."

I would like to know if it..."


I also register my books at LibraryThing, and if I use the ISBN code it finds the right version of the book. Constantly I end up with a paper back and what I really have is Audible's audiobook.


message 20: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments I'm not registered there.

Ok, so I looked for a book and it shows 91 editions but search by ISBN/ASIN doesn't show anything. Now the weird thing is that none of those are kindles, so I looked if there are kindle editions on LT. And I think you havet o import those editions yourself, create the entry? I don't get it.It's a weird site.

I would say ask here:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/am...
http://www.librarything.com/groups/we...

I think here it is explained: http://www.librarything.com/topic/94130

If I am going to add an ebook I open another tab and go to the ebook page in Amazon and get the ASIN number. It is listed in product details where a regular book would have ISBN

IE: ASIN: B00351DSK0

I just copy the number, not the ASIN part, and paste the number into the book add slot on LT. I have my first choice search set to Amazon. It will usually pull up the Kindle edition with that number and then I add it.


That seems like shelfary. They have as much editions as books are on sell. Seems too messy.


message 21: by John, Moderator (new)

John | 3922 comments "That seems like shelfary. They have as much editions as books are on sell. Seems too messy."

I think that's pretty much true here at GR as well.


message 22: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "I'm not registered there.

Ok, so I looked for a book and it shows 91 editions but search by ISBN/ASIN doesn't show anything. Now the weird thing is that none of those are kindles, so I looked if ..."


Library thing is much harder to works with isn't it?! I have tried what you suggest for one book a while ago and it did not work..... But do not worry about it. I let the book edition be incorrect but file it on an audible "shelf". That is my current solution.


message 23: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments John wrote: ""That seems like shelfary. They have as much editions as books are on sell. Seems too messy."

I think that's pretty much true here at GR as well."


Not really. Here you have ONE edition for each print. In Shelfary you have one edition for each physical edition that has been sold by different sellers.

This means that here you can have 45 editions of ONE book, on Shelfary you gonna have maybe 50, but they will be the same - only the ones that are currently being sold.

Anyway that is not a bad thing, I jsut find it way too messy. LT seems a but better, but I don't understand it. I haven't really used it and I couldn't find any Kindle editions there. Not sure why and how are editions added - seems a bit similar to GR in this manner.


message 24: by Empress (last edited Aug 11, 2013 11:14AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Chrissie wrote: "Library thing is much harder to works with isn't it?! I have tried what you suggest for one book a while ago and it did not work..... But do not worry about it. I let the book edition be incorrect but file it on an audible "shelf". That is my current solution. "

For me GR was pretty complicated as well. Took me months to get used to it. LT might take me even more, so I prefer to stick with ONE cataloging option. Not to mention I am using Calibre and that is a hell of a more difficult since you have to right regex for everything |:/

Btw why don't you open a topic about that at LT, the people there should be more familiar with the way it works and might come up with useful solutions.

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/foru...

that would be my next suggestion. You can install Calibre, create empty catalog of the books you have and then just import on GR and LT. But if you gonna do that I advise you to do an extensive search how the file should look cause I recently did a BIG mess on my shelves and still haven't fixed it all.


message 25: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1529 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Library thing is much harder to works with isn't it?! I have tried what you suggest for one book a while ago and it did not work..... But do not worry about it. I let the book edit..."

GR is definitely the best, or the easiest! And I like how people can easily talk to each other. Anyhow, thank you for your help.


message 26: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) | 5 comments Chrissie wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Library thing is much harder to works with isn't it?! I have tried what you suggest for one book a while ago and it did not work..... But do not worry a..."

You are welcome, wasn't much of help.
Hope you manage to solve the problem.


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