Save The Babies discussion
I Pro abortion but I have something to say
But Brigid, the reason you are for Pro-choice is just in case something like that would happen, am I right? The reason you say you're for it, but wouldn't do it is cuz really, you know its wrong... I mean, why else wouldn't you do one? You can't use the excuse that you simply wouldn't get pregnant, therefore wouldn't need one, as an excuse... that so ridiculous. I'm sorry. It just is.
no. it's not. because it might feel wrong to me, but not to everyone. i can't take the choice away from everyone just because of what i want. and maybe i won't ever get pregnant; how do you know???
if that's what she wanted. i would just want her to be happy; it wouldn't be my business. it shouldn't be anyone's business but the mother's.
Brigid is the only person here making any sense. Do you not get that not everyone believes abortion is wrong? They see it as a moral issue, not a legal one and we cannot legislate morality because everyone has a different moral view.Look at it this way. I am a vegetarian--have been since I was little. I believe it is morally and ethically wrong to eat meat. Now, because I believe that, should I go out and try to pass laws and call other people "criminals" for eating meat? Should you have to pay a $5,000 fine for eating a Big Mac? Should you go to jail for having a barbecue at your house? Should you be executed for ordering a Meat Lovers' Supreme pizza, and then maybe we could blow up the local Pizza Hut while we're at it because they are facilitating a crime?
No, because I realize that my moral worldview is not shared by everyone. In fact, I would fight against laws that banned meat-eating because I believe that people have a right to eat what they want--even if it is bad for their health, cruel to animals, and bad for the environment. I would continue to be a vegetarian but fight for your right to eat meat. That's right. Because I don't believe in becoming a fascist country.
That didn't really answer my question, Brigid. So you would take up the responsibility and love your child, but WHY would you choose life and not "death" for your child.There must be another reason besides your personal choice! Why would you make this personal choice? Your answer told me what you would do if you were pregnant, but not WHY you would do it!
THANK YOU LARA! SOMEONE FINALLY STANDS UP FOR ME!and mary catherine, i don't understand what you're asking. what other reason are you looking for?
i think it does; it's a choice. i think lara has an excellent point.
and i'm still confused by what people are asking me... now i'm killing someone else's child? i don't get it... pleez explain.
i am very confused. how am i supposed to answer a question if it was never asked?
my two centsI object to the term "pro abortion".
Being pro choice is NOT the same thing as being pro abortion.
We live in a country where a woman STILL has the right to choose how/what to do with her body/health.
Im glad to see most women CHOOSE to keep their babies. But Im realistic enough to know that abortions will continue even if a law were to pass making abortions illegal.
Perhaps we should do more to encourage a woman to keep her child, but lets not force her to a back alley, if for what ever reason, she feels she cant have a child.
yeah sorry. i sometimes interchange the terms by mistake. i consider myself more pro-choice. it's not like i LIKE abortions, but i like that girls have a choice.
we should give women information and encourage them to keep their unborn child; but let them decide for themselves what they feel is right.
have any of you poeple heard of PRC? They give information to mothers and encourage them to keep their unborn child. They even give free ultrasounds, clothing, and suport. I do a walk a thon for them every year and raise money to suport them
May I answer your question McKenna? I have two daughters and a son. First of all, I will educate my children very early on about sex. My hope is that they will wait until they are married to have sex, but if I can't convince them to do that, I hope I can convince them to at least be in a committed, long-term relationship before having sex and then ALWAYS using contraception to avoid unwanted pregnancies and disease. Now, should they go against all my advice and get pregnant at 17: First, after losing my temper and royally chewing them out, I will sit down with them and discuss their options. By the way, although my son can't get pregnant himself, he gets all the same guidance as my daughters and is just as responsible for sex and parenting as they are.Options: 1) they can go through with the pregnancy and keep the child. I will help them all I can, even though I had hoped to be through raising little children by that age. 2) they can go through with the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption (this would be my preference of the options). I would help them with all the adoption procedures and hopefully find a wonderful, loving couple who will raise the child and possibly allow some contact with the child's biological family at some point. But they have no obligation to do so. 3) if they believe they cannot go through with the pregnancy, I would support them in getting a safe, legal abortion.
That's called Choice and none of the choices are easy or without inherent difficulties. Contrary to what some people here have said though, the vast majority of women who have had abortions go on to lead happy, fulfilling lives. They go to college, marry, have children, have careers, etc. You like to imagine that they are eternally miserable and psychologically damaged because that's what you hope happens to them. But hoping, wishing, and believing they are damaged forever doesn't make it so.
see, you seem to think that i'm avoiding the question, mckenna. but i'm not. you can't say 'i don't care if it's not ur business', because it really isn't my business. that's why i'm not pro-life: because i think it's a choice that only the pregnant girl can make; she can't be told what to do. honestly, i don't know how to answer. would i want her to kill her child; meaning would i be HAPPY if she killed her child? no, not really. would i be happy if she put it up for adoption? not really, either. if she kept it, i would feel bad for her bcuz it would take over her life, and she wouldn't have a good education, be able to go to college, pursue her dreams, etc. it's not that simple. whatever outcome there is, i wouldn't WANT it for my friend/relative/etc. i would prefer that she didn't get pregnant in the first place. sorry, but the question's kinda vague. that's the best answer i can give.
Larayour children are very lucky to have such an understanding parent.
I wish there were more people like you out there.
Lara's statement is a perfect example. And I'm a veggie as well :). I'm pro-CHOICE not pro-abortion because no one is.
yeah. it's not like pro-choice ppl want everyone to get abortions; we just think that everyone should have the choice.
Exactly. I'm feminist and think that women have a right to their bodies and making decisions for it. Not the government.
One other thing, I want to mention. You are never going to CHANGE other peoples opinons if you tell them they're killing babies if they abort, you have to give them facts, tell them the risks, and attempt to support them (give money to a women's shelter, give them resources)! And, I've heard many people complain about the mars bars spam, no ADULT is going to listen to you when your spamming.
hmmmm. you've got a problem there, catherine. cuz most ppl who get abortions are adults. soooo...
Exactly. Okay, but even some KIDS will be annoyed. I'm not going to listen to you when you spam! Period. And, even if abortion was illegal, people are still going to get unsafe abortions.
What facts? Telling me that abortion is wrong is not a fact. And, no offense, but if your church is Catholic, no wonder the adults in it will listen to you!
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No, I didn't mean that way, I meant that Catholics are supposed to be against abortion. Sorry that you thought of it in another way.
I didn't mean it to come across as if I was against Catholics.
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That was my whole point, not everyone will listen if you call women who abort are murderers and you spam on GR. People who are pro-choice won't even look at it. I thought you guys were going to post a message on every group? And not just kids do it, adults do as well.
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Okay...sorry, it just seems like that was what you were doing.
Okay....but I'm just saying, if it has nothing to do with the topic, some people will just ignore it. Yes, but if they're illegal people will still get unsafe abortions, or intentionally have a miscarage.
Most, but still some. It would depend on the situation.
True, and we? Isn't abortion legal in America?
You honestly think they've changed the majority of peoples minds?
Oh that would make a lot more sense. Well, if Mccain becomes president, thats most likely to happen.
Please, just be honest. You are pro-life or Pro-abortion. Pro-choice is fake.
Well, all choices aren't that great! Would you give people the choice of: infanticide, genocide, slavery, rape, physical abuse, torture, etc... I don't think so. Some things are just not allowed in a civilized nation.
I totally agree with you death is a risk you take when you get pregnate.
so people ask me this same question, and here's my response. just bcuz you're pro-abortion doesn't mean that you, personally, would choose to get an abortion. if i were to get pregnant, i would keep the baby; i would take responsibility, and i would learn to love my kid and take care of him/her.
but that's just my personal choice. i can't expect that ALL teenage girls are going to be that responsible. therefore, in my opinion, the choice should be kept legal.