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I just want to add, by the way, that this lady must be completely out of touch because I thought this was a controversy for, oh, 1974 or so. Has she never heard of this issue before? Between this and the mosque fighting...(and I should say I'm pro-mosque and anti-Dr. Laura, for the record) I don't know why these stories seem to be in the media so much when there are so many other important issues on which we could focus. Misha, anybody, help me understand. I know that sounds trite. And maybe these issues ARE important, yes, I guess they are, and there must be a symbolism inherent in them that catch the public's attention on some level I don't understand.
There's a difference between a black person saying "Look at this nigga" and a white person saying, "Look at that nigger." I can't explain it, but there is. I listened to the audio, and Dr. Laura was way out of line, basically saying that the (black)caller's (white) husband's family and friends were right to say racist things to her, and basically that was the price of being in an interracial relationship.
Dr. Laura knows very clearly why it is objectionable for a white person to say nigger but not necessarily a black person - she chooses to ignore the reasons why and pretend that racist epithets are the same coming from all people. Dr. Laura likes to pretend there's no such thing as nuance. She is morally black and white (Manichean, not skin tone) on issues. Which is fine for some issues, but ignorant on other issues. She is an utter idiot - purposefully obtuse - and sometimes chooses to be a demagogue, as she did in this instance.
To say that she is out of touch - yes, true, but it doesn't even scratch the surface. That's about #17 on the list of 100 most offensive things about her.
The caller was a black woman married to a white man and was complaining that when his friends came over, everything was about race, and she was treated as some racial oddity. Dr. Laura's attitude was "well, if you didn't want that to happen to you, why did you marry outside your race?" Um, is that really the best response one could come up with????
To say that she is out of touch - yes, true, but it doesn't even scratch the surface. That's about #17 on the list of 100 most offensive things about her.
The caller was a black woman married to a white man and was complaining that when his friends came over, everything was about race, and she was treated as some racial oddity. Dr. Laura's attitude was "well, if you didn't want that to happen to you, why did you marry outside your race?" Um, is that really the best response one could come up with????
Lobstergirl wrote: "The caller was a black woman married to a white man and was complaining that when his friends came over, everything was about race, and she was treated as some racial oddity."This happens a lot with my gay friends. When they are part of a larger (primarily het) group, the topic invariably gets around to gay.
I find that odd. If people are friends, why would they bring up topics that put the minority group on the spot? And what about gayness are they discussing? Is it still a huge mystery?
Lobstergirl wrote: "I find that odd. If people are friends, why would they bring up topics that put the minority group on the spot? And what about gayness are they discussing? Is it still a huge mystery?"The most basic comment is, "so do you think that guy is cute?" Others might be, "doesn't it hurt when you... you know," or "how can you be attracted to a guy's hairy ass."
Perhaps it comes from being somewhat uncomfortable?
no one can say that word who is not black. and some blacks can't even say it. it is the only word really like that. no equivalent. not even any other slurs have the same outrage. right? no. fair. no? not even white rappers or comics can use it. it is not even the same word when used by blacks as it is to non-blacks. not even close. it is like it has a far different meaning.no way she can do this and get by with it. flat stupid
Oh, what Dr. Laura calls "making people take responsibility," and her attitude that people only have problems because they brought it on themselves.
Ok, my two-cents worth: Dr. Laura is an idiot; always has been one and, apparently, will always be one. I agree with RA-- is this something that really needs to be re-examined? And is it that news worthy? Saying the word in question is patently offensive because of the history and intent surrounding the word. Some people will say it simply because it gets others hackles up.
What I think is strange is that there isn't a word that gets white males as fired up as this word or the infamous 'C' word...at least none that I can think of.
What I think is strange is that there isn't a word that gets white males as fired up as this word or the infamous 'C' word...at least none that I can think of.
I've never been able to stand Dr. Laura. Her words were offensive, her apology was offensive, and her grasp of the First Amendment is shaky at best.And now Sarah Palin has weighed in with the highly inappropriate tweet "Dr.Laura:don't retreat...reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence"isn't American,not fair")"
Seriously. "Don't retreat...reload" is about the wrongest thing she could possibly say in this situation. She also shows no understanding of the First Amendment.
This is proof that ignorance is bliss Sarah.
Hee.I don't know which is worse: Dr. Laura (ignorance + intelligence) or Palin (ignorance + loaded weapons). That is not a knock against our weapon-loading TC brethren.
It's kind of funny that Sarah Palin has leaped to her defense considering that Dr. Laura actually excoriated Palin during the McCain campaign for leaving behind an infant with Down Syndrome while she pursued a career.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/19/art...
Louis CK, by the way, has an excellent bit about people (like me, I guess) who actually use the phrase "The N Word". Oh, LOTS OF SWEARING in this sixty second clip. Cover the ears of small children in the vicinity before you watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqwj--...
I get Louie CK's point, and I try not to use that phrase in any form. What do you think?