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okay Did anyone hated Bella in Eclipse ?

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message 51: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Wow everyone else knows a lot of languages 0_0 me: English learning French and Italian.
And Japanese: Konichiwa.
FINE FINE, I'll admit it: that's the only word I know (part from Watashiwa, GSGS desu)


message 52: by Xilu (new)

Xilu | 2 comments I REALLY HATE BELLA IN ECLIPSEE!!!!! SHE"S REALLY A TWO TIMER BLOODSUCKER-TO-BE!!!!!!!..xD LOL!


message 53: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments I REALLY HATED BELLA IN ALL OF THE TWILIGHT THINGYS


message 54: by Shwetika (last edited Aug 20, 2010 03:44AM) (new)

Shwetika Soph wrote: "Demonic wrote: "TWILIGHT SUCKS!
VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE, REAL MEN DON'T SPARKLE
TWILIGHT SUCKS TWILIGHT SUCKS
TWILIGHT SUCKS TWILIGHT SUCKS"

ok I am sorry to be rude but you should get out of ..."


Oh dear you are not . They should get out of here..........


message 55: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Ooh, I AM scared.
Twilight is the most overrated book in the history of stories. It is not well written whatsoever, and the plot is so uncomplicated and boring that even people who haven't read it know what happens.


message 56: by Swiftfire (new)

Swiftfire GSGS wrote: "Ooh, I AM scared.
Twilight is the most overrated book in the history of stories. It is not well written whatsoever, and the plot is so uncomplicated and boring that even people who haven't read it..."


Agreed. It can be explained completely in about a minute. There are no real plot twists that you didn't see coming, and no real action. I know it's a love story, but if you're going to build something up to a fight, then let them fight! Like in Breaking Dawn... I felt like Meyers had been building up to the battle, and then at the last minute she decided that she didn't feel like writing a battle, giving Twilight the worst ending ever.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments o_o

My cousin just said that the Volturi were scarier than Sweeney Todd


message 58: by Swiftfire (new)

Swiftfire STOP POSTING THAT. O_O

And really, could someone edit the name of this topic? It burns my eyes.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments TWILIGHT SUCKS


message 61: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Will I get into trouble if I say this:
TWILIGHT SUCKS
?


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments I'm confuzzled, I thought you said that was wrong?


message 63: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Not me. Lizzy or someone


message 64: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Huh?


message 65: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Someone said that they didn't think it was a good idea to plague the discussions with "TWILIGHT SUCKS!!" I think it was Lizzy.


message 66: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Oh. I think it's better to beat them with intellect.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments So do I.
*pulls out intelligant stick*
See?


message 68: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Just give them long speeches. We should move on after a while. You know, plague more Twlight Lover groups.


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments YES GET OUT NOW


message 70: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Please. You don't need to get frustrated and use capslock to get your point across. It's rude and doesn't follow internet etiquette.


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments hmmmmm alright sorry but I am offended.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments Still waiting......*is getting annoyed*


message 73: by Diabolical Daemonic (last edited Aug 24, 2010 09:50AM) (new)

Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments *Is slowly combusting with annoyance*


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments *Turns to ash*


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments *Ash is blown away in the wind*


message 76: by Skittles (new)

Skittles (lola131313) | 45 comments Ok so if f you guys hate twilight so much, why are you in this group? It's supposed to Team Edward. If you are a twilight hater, then u should get out of this group and make ur own stinkin group!! I like twilight!!


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments I feel sorry for your braincells.


message 78: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Hey, Lizzy.... Try to talk softly. Don't boom around like some stupid Vampire.


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments *sigh* this is just pathetic. everything I say that is good about twilight you twist around my words and I cant be bothered getting contradicted........... what point withh it achive by being here like a lingering stink? Your just being fools.


message 80: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Lizzy said "*slowly explodes*" How do you SLOWLY explode??

Soph? You're being rude again.


message 81: by Skittles (new)

Skittles (lola131313) | 45 comments come on people this is stupid! we're fighting over a book! Lizzy please don't tiwst around our words.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments Twilight tells the story of how Bella Swan, a seventeen-year-old girl, who falls in love with Edward Cullen, a one hundred and seven-year-old vampire.

Thats about it.

After the initial attempt at a plot ("I can't love you! I'll eat you!" "No, I love you more" "No I love you more!") until Meyer remebers that somethingactually has to happen in the novel.

Twilight has been called everything from "the next Harry Potter" to "a scrap of tissue paper I wouldn't blow my nose in". Obviously when something gains overnight popularity there's going to be some kickback, but Twilight is earning so much hatred that even Britney Spears fans are wincing.

(And I had best not hear Britney bashing in the comments, ladies)

Because I think it's very unfair to bash a book without reading it first, I sat down with a cup of hot cocoa and a knit blanket over the winter break to read. A decent amount of alcohol later (trust me when I say it was necessary), I put it down, found myself lighter, and set the thing on fire. Looking past the atrocious writing, the characters are flat and oversimplified, the dialogue is painful, and the idolized relationships in the book are borderline terrifying.

Dear readers, you're an intelligent bunch. So I'm going to state the truth to you. It might hurt some of you, but you need to hear it.

Twilight is the worst book ever written. EVER.

Why? Well, there are quite literally millions of reasons, but here's one of them. Edward, Bella's true love, has become the symbol of the perfect man for millions of young girls across the world.

Which is great, right? Young girls having an ideal of perfection to aspire to with their own Mr. Right?

Only not. Because once again you've looked past the sparkling-did I mention the sparkling? The vampire's sparkle.-and get into the actual "substance" of the book, you find out the relationship between Edward and Bella is so far over the board of abusive its not even funny.

I'm not against love in any manner of speaking, so long as it's all adult and consensual-like. But let's be serious for a moment here, reders. If you heard about a guy whocut the brakes on his girlfriend's car so that she couldn't go hang out with her friend, what would you think? That's not love, kids, that's stalking, and between you and me, that's pretty messed up.

Now, it's only fair to get two sides to every story, so I went out and did a little research on both sides of the spectrum. I even tried to stay away from the usual fourteen-year-old fangirls so that I could get a somewhat intelligant opinion. One college freshman, when asked why she was asked why she was a fan of Twilight, said, "I love the relationship between Edward and Bella. You know, if you look past the abuse. He's the perfect guy."

Skeptically, I ventured, "Can we get back to the 'abusive' part?"

Of course, generally Twilight fans don't like to get into that part at all, as it ruins their image of Edward as, you guessed it, the "perfect guy". Unfortunately, when you consider the number of girls looking for guys like Edward, that's kinda terrifying. It certainly scares me.

Despite the overwhelming support of Twilight among the fans, it took two clicks on google to find hundreds of anti-Twilight testimonials. Reasons given on the LiveJournal community ontd_twalight included "s***t-poor writing" and "worst possible example of how to live your life". Another usre said, "I hate how the series, written by an untalented hack, has made thousands of females into mindless retards entranced by badly written, badly concieved s***t. I hate hearing how girls talk about it like it's a memorable piece of literature." The anti-Twilight Movement summed up their entire argument by stating: "It's unoriginal, amateur, openly abusive, and horribly, horribly written."

But back to my original arguement-namely, that Twilight is the worst book ever. For just a moment, let's look beyond the bad writing and the abusive relationships and the atrocious characters. The real reason?

Twilight is the High School Musical of novels.

Stop, come back, I'm not dissing High School Musical. I'm not saying it's bad because it's like HSM. But think back. Remember back when that shit came out, and Disney was plastering Zac Efron's face onto anything it could possibly be plastered on? It's like that, but with Hot Topic. Twilight is everywhere. Everywhere. You can't escape it.

Only instead of advertising a feel-good (If musically...interesting)movie, it's advertising a book inspiring millions of young girls to give up their hopes in dreams to fall in love with an abusive man and let him control every life decision they make, from college to pregnancy. For those of you who have sisters, daughters, any female relatives at all- that's terrifying. I've never been one to advocate banning books in any sense, but I'd certainly think twice before letting my child read something like this.

Now, there's the arguement that people read the book because it's a simple work that doesn't require any thought to read. Alright, fine, I can respect that. But there's a difference, ladies, between reading something for fun and modeling your life after it, and that's where Twilight get's worrying-girls aren't reading it, they're letting it brainwash them. For God's sake, someone asked Robert Pattinson to bite her. Girl's, I can't make this up.

So, in conclusion: Twilight is the worst book ever written.

I mean, seriously. They sparkle.

Seriously.


message 83: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Soph wrote: "*sigh* this is just pathetic. everything I say that is good about twilight you twist around my words and I cant be bothered getting contradicted........... what point withh it achive by being here ..."


Calm down Soph. And would you mind not calling me a fool? Because that's one of the insults I hate the most. My brother just read Twilight and now he's bugging me with quotes like: "Edward you stayed!" and such. He actually thinks that Twilight deserves 2 stars. I mean really.


message 84: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments TWO stars? Oh come on it deserves negative stars. Like, blackholes or something.


Diabolical Daemonic   (DemonicAngel) | 525 comments I only gave it 1 star, I wish I could have given it no-stars...


message 86: by GSGS (new)

GSGS | 621 comments Blackholes!!


message 87: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments *Nods* My brother IS admittedly shallow and he skipped the romance scenes soooooo...


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments Clair wrote: "Soph wrote: "*sigh* this is just pathetic. everything I say that is good about twilight you twist around my words and I cant be bothered getting contradicted........... what point withh it achive b..."

sorry I didnt mean to insult you


message 89: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Heeeeheeeeheee!!! It was just a joke Soph. I don't take any insult seriously.


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments ok lol sorry


message 91: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments It's fine. *Waves hand* Now where were we?


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments errrr im not really sure...... hehe something along the lines of shallow minded people lol. which edward is not by the way.


message 93: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments We were? I wasn't. I don't normally think that 110 year old gramps are shallow minded, but I always make exceptions.


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments I dont think that he is shallow at all. I have read a lot of books about shallow minded pricks and I dont think edward is one of them. lol


message 95: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments What about Rosalie then, and Bella?


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments bella is not exactly shallow, just selfish. And as for rosalie she has her reasons.


message 97: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 366 comments Yeah well. At least Rosalie regrets being a Vampire...


 Soph - Lock&Key | 211 comments I know!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont understand how someone could want to be a vampire but *sigh* the things people do for love.


message 99: by Kara (new)

Kara (kara_writes) | 128 comments urgh. With the obvious minus of having to drink blood, I wouldn't mind being a vampire. :)


message 100: by Alice (new)

Alice  (Alzie) | 50 comments i would LOVE to be a vamp!the super speed,super strength, sometimes extra talents ,living forever(that might get to me)never having to sleep like EVER!having a great mind and memory and i would be a cullen type vamp animal blood ONLY anyway yeah so i want to be a vamp deal with it!


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