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message 1: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments Animals should be tested in cases of medicinal reasons.


message 2: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments Well, if the human could be harmed in the study, it's better for an animal to be used.


~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awesome ♥ ! ~  (jessicatheawsomeone) I disagree. An HUMAN is A animal. We are in the animal kingdom. Personally I think we should be the ones to suffer because we are the cause and reason for most animals pain.


message 4: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments Yes, but humans are more important, per se, than animals. We have more dominant thought processes. And blah blah blah. Rabbits aren't the ones wearing the lab coats, we are.


message 5: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments Same here.


~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awesome ♥ ! ~  (jessicatheawsomeone) I disagree with air. That's one reason why I hate the human race..EVERYONE thinks like that...there are animals smarter than us. Just cause we can walk on two feet, speak, and have apposable thumbs makes us dominant.


~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awesome ♥ ! ~  (jessicatheawsomeone) I care more about a rat than your uncle :D


~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awesome ♥ ! ~  (jessicatheawsomeone) thank god you have that face at the end!!!


message 9: by Laura (new)

Laura ~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awsome ♥ ! ~ wrote: "I disagree with air. That's one reason why I hate the human race..EVERYONE thinks like that...there are animals smarter than us. Just cause we can walk on two feet, speak, and have apposable thumbs..."

That's not what makes us dominant. Humans have souls and consciousnesses. They can love, hate, live. Animals have instincts based upon the need for survival and reproduction.


message 10: by Laura (new)

Laura But I still think there should be very minimal animal testing, and only on animals that will feel almost no pain.


message 11: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments What's a soul? :3


~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awesome ♥ ! ~  (jessicatheawsomeone) I think animals have souls, and a conscience. I disgaree with you. Yes they are based on survival. But once so where we. We've evolved.


message 13: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments *APLAUDS* Gosh, I LOVE you Lindsay. You think just the way I think. It's so awful, it has got to be stopped. Oh, did I mention that my life's goal is to stop animal testing?


message 14: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments Yes. I mean the testing is meant for humans anyway, why should animals have to suffer for the comfort of humans?


message 15: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments Sorry. I think that maybe if someone was ready to sacrifice themselves to save people from Aids, they'd do it. It's just not immportent enough.


message 16: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Same. My sister is almost 6. She'll be six on august 23rd. She only has one kidney. She has a UTI, if she didn't have the anti-biotics she could die. I care about my sister more than some monkey.


message 17: by Daisy (new)

Daisy I care about my sister's life more. Not to mention anti-biotics were probably tested on 100 monkeies at the most. They have saved thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives.


message 18: by Daisy (new)

Daisy I don't think there's nothing wrong with animal testing. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when it comes down to medications I'd rather it be a monkey (we'll name him Steve) tham my sister.


message 19: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Not true. Some medication are meant to work with human blood, or with your digestive system, etc. You can only clone so much


message 20: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Then let's clone a human and test things on it. Or are you against cloning too? If you're against animal testind and against cloning you don't leave any options


message 21: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments Fyopiagdt the CIA Pirate wrote: "I don't think there's nothing wrong with animal testing. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when it comes down to medications I'd rather it be a monkey (we'll name him Steve) tham my sister."

Awww... Sorry about your sister, but animal testing is still not a good thing, no matter who it's for.


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

Air wrote: "Well, if the human could be harmed in the study, it's better for an animal to be used."

How so???

Animals are just as humans. People put animals down because they're different....it's not right...


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

Lindsay wrote: "where's the research that proves that? pigs have very strong bonds with their moms. So do monkeys for that matter, that is why so much stress comes on a monkey by taking him away from his mother."

I agree...


message 24: by [deleted user] (new)

Girl4beluga wrote: "not really there maternal bonds aren't like ours."

And exactly how do you know that?


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

hes a country superstar


message 26: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments I'm a more classical orchestra kind of person.


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

go punk, alternative and rock!


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

i've heard of them from somewhere....havnt heard anything by them though....why :3


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

oh cool! maybe i'll look them up.


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Lindsay wrote: "oh that explains it. im not much of a country person.....except for Taylor Swift, she's awesome.

i'm more of a punk rock person."



same here but i don't like Taylor Swift...


message 31: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments Because pop country makes my ears bleed, same with country, and most pop.


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

Lindsay wrote: "why not?"

Idk...I just....don't =\


I like pop and hip-hop sometimes but i mostly like rock...I like bands like Breaking Benjamin, Slipknot, Disturbed, The Birthday Massacre....the list goes on and on...


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

wow your pretty hardcore nemonica, i love breaking benjamin too.

greenday, linken park, beck, modest mouse, cold war kids, within temptation...


message 34: by Laura (new)

Laura Clair wrote: "Yes. I mean the testing is meant for humans anyway, why should animals have to suffer for the comfort of humans?"

Let's just take all the innocent babies and start putting drugs into their bodies, then... >:)

OKAY, THAT WAS PURE SARCASM. D:

Anyway, there were some people back in the day who cut open prisoner's bodies to see what the human body was like. I say that's much more gruesome than animal testing. o.+


message 35: by Laura (new)

Laura Lindsay wrote: "i was asking nemonica, but ok.

i dont like most pop, except for lady gaga and maybe beyonce. others, like miley cyrus and justin beaver, make my ears bleed profoundly.

i like bands like green day..."


Lady Gaga is beast. :D


message 36: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Girl4beluga wrote: "um because they leave there young after they wing them"

http://www.seeturtles.org/1403/baby-s... Here's one, read the second paragraph


message 37: by Laura (new)

Laura What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it....


message 38: by Emily (new)

Emily | 611 comments If you read all the posts you would get it.


message 39: by Marco (new)

Marco (marcoreads) i saw a clip of a frustrated scientist throw a cat against the wall for the Hell of it...then Laughed!!!


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

thats horrid 0_0


message 41: by [deleted user] (new)

Marco wrote: "i saw a clip of a frustrated scientist throw a cat against the wall for the Hell of it...then Laughed!!!"

WHAT? WHO? LET ME AT 'EM! I'LL KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!

Grrr....


message 42: by Laura (new)

Laura Sounds like my English teacher...he makes a bunch of jokes about roadkill/killing animals, which I have to admit are pretty funny. He has seven cats, I think. I feel sorry for the cats...


message 43: by Claere (new)

Claere (omenonwings) | 107 comments Yeah...


message 44: by Marco (new)

Marco (marcoreads) Lindsay wrote: "I think it's a terrible, cruel thing that has to be stopped."

animal texting should stop!


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

please tell me you didnt do that on perpose. if you did, lindsay's gonna be ticked.


message 46: by Marco (new)

Marco (marcoreads) Why? i'm scarred


message 47: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Laura -- Pictoperson Extraordinaire wrote: "What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it...."

We were talking about how animals don't have the same bond with their parents.


message 48: by Marco (new)

Marco (marcoreads) GreenDaisy the CIA Pirate wrote: "Laura -- Pictoperson Extraordinaire wrote: "What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it...."

We were talking about how animal..."

...and?


message 49: by [deleted user] (new)

i think animals do have the same bond to they're parents.


message 50: by Marco (new)

Marco (marcoreads) i read once about a plastic pig being a surrogate child to a mama tiger in a zoo, who had just lost her real babies recently. and the kicker is...the tiger cheered up and acted toward the inanimate pigs like they were her own babes!

the pigs had striped fabric on them.


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